DY_nasty
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(01-22-2012, 12:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
actually they don't ime... put a bunch of different tribesmen together, even ones with bad blood, and bring a light skinned brother from the states in the mix and you will see how things operate..
is he wearing skinny jeans though?
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
is he wearing skinny jeans though?
and sagging in them
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(01-22-2012, 12:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by FreeMufasa: View Post
This post made me sad. The fact that black americans are so hated they cannot explore the world. I will say dude that it is not as bad as you think. Britain and France for example are probably more accepting than the US.

I've been to:

England (live here)
Scotland
Wales
France
Germany
Norway
Sweden
Italy
Russia
Poland
Netherlands
Egypt
Dubai
Saudi Arabia
United States
Kenya

I have to say, even countries where I was expecting racists like Russia was very warming. Very very few situations which I felt someone was racist to me and even then it was the kind you could just brush of and move on. I found it was the opposite in many cases. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that came up to me just to say hello and have a chat, because I was black. I'm not saying it's sunshine and rainbows if you live there but as a tourist, you should be fine. I got laid in most of the countries too. I'm planning to go to Japan in a few weeks and then hopefully South America later this year ^^

This may offend or come off as sort of racist but don't listen to the white people in your country regarding this (of course, not everyone). I remember when I used to make inquiries on forums or in real life and you'd get a few "You can't go there, they hate blacks" type of comments and it's bullshit. In general, when you have another race telling you you're not going to be welcomed somewhere, don't listen.

lol just noticed how much i've wrote. It's probably because i've heard so many black people say they're not going to go somewhere because of how they'll be treated which is a fair doubt to have but it's mostly unfounded. Don't let it hold you back =)
how was your experience in italy?

Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
and sagging in them
man, i think that hate would be founded. such stupid logic to have skinny jeans and sag them. it irritates me to see it
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Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
and sagging in them
alright, you got me.
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Originally Posted by Parallax: View Post
how was your experience in italy?
I was born there, but left when I was around 1. I've been there about 5 times since (forgot the language =P)

Anyway since I became 'aware' of racial stuff which was my last trip a few years ago, it was great. Stayed for 3 weeks in Torino. The only potential racist thing that happened was me and my brother were in a cafe ordering some food. My brother didn't hear but behind me were 2 old men. All i heard them say was "something something somalians something something". No idea what they said but that was it.

Everyone else was extremely polite. Hooked up with a girl that worked on a market stall and another girl from a club. It was really chill dude. We used to go to the park almost everyday and play football with a bunch of Italian guys. Fun times.

I will say one thing, Black americans (hip hop) and Jamaicans (Reggae) have made getting women overseas piss easy. You don't have to change but play that aspect up and you'll be getting some guranteed. I pretended I was American on countless occasions.

Consider being an American an advantage. These guys wouldn't give Africans the time of day. Once they hear you speak English and know where you're from you're ok. So much so that if something racist happens, it'll be laughably pathetic and you'll brush it off.
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I've never had issues in any Western European country. Ime, the people tend to be less ignorant than Americans. Or at least the racist ones generally keep it to themselves, which is just fine with me.
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Spent some time in Japan and Mexico, had an awesome time. Especially in Japan when I was leaving, my host family sung "We Shall Overcome". That was just cute :D
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(01-22-2012, 01:35 PM)

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Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
actually they don't ime... put a bunch of different tribesmen together, even ones with bad blood, and bring a light skinned brother from the states in the mix and you will see how things operate..
Click..Click...Click...Click..Click....



Translation= "Look at this N right here."
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Originally Posted by DrFunk: View Post
Especially in Japan when I was leaving, my host family sung "We Shall Overcome". That was just cute :D
Aww, I've always wanted to go to Japan.
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Originally Posted by Good Job Bob: View Post
Garbage like Tyler Perry movies are specifically made and targeted towards a specific audience, can you really blame people outside of that audience being uninterested in them?
Tyler Perry got into the position he's in *because* everyone else stopped doing it, not the other way around...
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In this bout of why are videogames not representational The Resident Evil 6 Race Representation Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by Parallax: View Post
its not about amerie skin bleaching, or that talentless harpy ashanti. and you havent pissed people off to the point of sheer mocking, so youre good. welcome to the fold.

....what?
you take that back!
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master: View Post
Tyler Perry got into the position he's in *because* everyone else stopped doing it, not the other way around...
Pretty much he saw a massive gap in the market and a undeserved part of it, black women and has filled it nicely and become a multi millionaire in the process. Even though i don't watch his films he keeps a lot of black actors in work.

I do wish he would do more though but he obviously has his lane and his staying in it. I do agree with what critics like Spike Lee have said in the past.

Spike Lee On Tyler Perry's Movies Shows! Its Coonery Buffoonery
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Originally Posted by Jadedx: View Post
This is more of a urban black american culture thread.
not really, the thread is full of all sorts of posts and posters full of culture that does't fit that statement.
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master: View Post
you take that back!
Never! She and her fans can get at me if there's a problem.
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Originally Posted by Urban Scholar: View Post
In this bout of why are videogames not representational The Resident Evil 6 Race Representation Discussion Thread
Why does it seem like some people are so against having a non-white guy be a protagonist in a game?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Patch: View Post
Why does it seem like some people are so against having a non-white guy be a protagonist in a game?
The thread is not even about the protagonist. Replicant isn't arguing for Leon or Chris to be taken out in favor of a colored character but for the new supporting characters to be a tad more diverse since the entirety of the regular/recurring cast (with the exception of Ada Wong) are white.
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Originally Posted by Bento: View Post
The thread is not even about the protagonist. Replicant isn't arguing for Leon or Chris to be taken out in favor of a colored character but for the new supporting characters to be a tad more diverse since the entirety of the regular/recurring cast (with the exception of Ada Wong) are white.
Couldn't say it better myself.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Patch: View Post
Why does it seem like some people are so against having a non-white guy be a protagonist in a game?
I don't get the argument for 'fan favorite' characters in these games anyway. Outside of maaaaybe Wesker (being generous) do any of them have a remotely unique personality? They could change every game, or even every chapter, and I wouldn't notice.
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Originally Posted by Dabanton: View Post
Pretty much he saw a massive gap in the market and a undeserved part of it, black women and has filled it nicely and become a multi millionaire in the process. Even though i don't watch his films he keeps a lot of black actors in work.

I do wish he would do more though but he obviously has his lane and his staying in it. I do agree with what critics like Spike Lee have said in the past.

Spike Lee On Tyler Perry's Movies Shows! Its Coonery Buffoonery
The TBS shows are really no different from all the white-lead family shows on Network tv. Namely, all the ones ABC has had.

Black people with influence are too insecure when it comes to certain comedy.

We openly laugh at all the stupid shit Jim Carrey has done over the years. I'ma share some laughs with Tyler too.
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Originally Posted by macuser1of5: View Post
I don't get the argument for 'fan favorite' characters in these games anyway. Outside of maaaaybe Wesker (being generous) do any of them have a remotely unique personality? They could change every game, or even every chapter, and I wouldn't notice.
Leon had a pretty unique personality in 4. He was wise-cracking and silly.
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Originally Posted by Bento: View Post
The thread is not even about the protagonist. Replicant isn't arguing for Leon or Chris to be taken out in favor of a colored character but for the new supporting characters to be a tad more diverse since the entirety of the regular/recurring cast (with the exception of Ada Wong) are white.
It makes me think of that Dwayne McDuffie video when he talks about a character of a different ethnicity taking the place of a previous white character in a team.

Which of these fictional characters is losing a job?
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz: View Post
Great article, mostly how I feel. Just frustrating for me, since I hope to write for TV or film in the future.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Patch: View Post
Why does it seem like some people are so against having a non-white guy be a protagonist in a game?
That's not really what's going on in that thread, at least for the most part. The real problem with that thread is that Nirolak took Replicant's comments from another thread and made them into their own topic. So you have an OP that is very vague/not descriptive enough, along with a joke topic title and a bunch of posters responding to these two things alone. If the thread had started with a post like this...

Originally Posted by bishoptl: View Post
I'll get to this in a minute, because it's so stupid, so ignorant, so bereft of anything resembling fact that, well, I had to knock back some vodka first.

And I was out of vodka, so a trip to the liquor store was in order. But now I'm back. Vodka.

OKAY HERE WE GO

GTA San Andreas
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Chronicles of Riddick
Resident Evil 5 (heh)

These are all multimillion selling games (with the possible exception of Riddick, which I believe is around 980K lifetime) that have minority characters either as the main protagonists, or playing central, major roles. In the case of San Andreas, it was the #3 selling game of all time for years.

Certainly there could be more. There are studies that suggest that videogames are a powerful gateway for interest in maths, computer sciences - and seeing yourself represented in a medium is a surefire way to see it as a pathway for you and others like you. I lucked out, my dad saw computers as the way of the future back in the 80s. Bought a C-64, insisted that me and my siblings learn how programming works and I took it from there. But I still didn't see many folks like me in gaming, and it blew my fucking mind to find out that not only did Jerry Lawson exist, he's the guy who invented the videogame ROM cartridge. That felt...good. Visibility matters, and it makes a difference.

Listen, from a pure gameplay POV, it doesn't matter at all what the character's race is. Jumping on turtles or shooting zombies is jumping on turtles or shooting zombies, period. So if it doesn't matter, who does it hurt to provide more diverse characters? It's not affecting the gameplay, so why the uproar and dismissiveness of Replicant's thread?

What exactly are you scared of?

Please note that I'm not arguing for pluralism. Segmenting the market into "Latino games" and "black games" and "white games" makes no sense. It doesn't seem to me (and feel free to correct me, OP) that the argument is being made for establishing a bunch of race-based silos. What I believe is being said is that having more diversity represented onscreen that matches how the world, y'know, actually is - might be

1. a very nice thing to have, and
2. not affect your bottom line, as noted in the examples above.

Now, DaBuddaDa, we've established that you don't know what you're talking about. That's okay. It's not your fault and I won't hold it against you. Par for the course around here as a general rule (unless you're Phisheep, whom I dearly want to be when I grow up). When you want to masquerade your ignorance as fact...well, then you and I have an issue. But you - and others like you - have a glorious opportunity. Time to study! Research! Build an opinion based on something other than your ass and then release it


like a butterfly


to the world upon your return.

I believe in you and your ability to rise above. Make us proud.

tl;dr - stop being a fuckwit; vodka is good
...I doubt you'd have as many stupid comments in that thread. There would still be a few (GAF Defense Force) but not as many.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
The TBS shows are really no different from all the white-lead family shows on Network tv. Namely, all the ones ABC has had.

Black people with influence are too insecure when it comes to certain comedy.

We openly laugh at all the stupid shit Jim Carrey has done over the years. I'ma share some laughs with Tyler too.
They really aren't, but black people are held to a different standard by everyone. And no one has a clear rulebook.
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Chris in RE5 looked nothing like himself. If Capcom changed him to a big black dude to skirt the controversy instead of populating the area with as many arabs as black people...

The backlash would have been delicious.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
The TBS shows are really no different from all the white-lead family shows on Network tv. Namely, all the ones ABC has had.

Black people with influence are too insecure when it comes to certain comedy.

We openly laugh at all the stupid shit Jim Carrey has done over the years. I'ma share some laughs with Tyler too.
it's the fear of being typecast into coonery and buffonery if you do it once.
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Master P almost had me joining Creepy Gaf.
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Master P almost had me joining Creepy Gaf.
.....what?
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Originally Posted by Parallax: View Post
.....what?
I'm confused as well
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Cymphonique Miller is his daughter.
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Cymphonique Miller is his daughter.
Yeah. I guess she's under the age of 18?
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Cymphonique is only two years younger than me so I'm good to go. Parallax she's 15.
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Originally Posted by Parallax: View Post
Yeah. I guess she's under the age of 18?
Thought she was pulling a Dawson. Man I feel old, the no limit army has grown ass kids. I bet Krisskross are grandparents now.
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Originally Posted by CrazyDogg77: View Post
Cymphonique is only two years younger than me so I'm good to go. Parallax she's 15.
Damn, how many damn kids does p have?
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Originally Posted by Parallax: View Post
Damn, how many damn kids does p have?
No Limit Soldiers: The New Generation
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
No Age Limit Soldiers: The New Generation
fixed for creepygaf
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Cymphonique Miller is his daughter.
oh, that explains why Cymphonique has a music career.
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Saw some black movie discussion, I'm sure they've been linked before but for anyone that hasn't checked them out, give "Shadow and Act" a look : http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/

Good blog on black cinema.
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Master P almost had me joining Creepy Gaf.
What?

*Googles*

She's cute but nothing to get locked up for, son.
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
No Limit Soldiers: The New Generation
If they use those dope ass covers like this, bring it on.

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Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
actually they don't ime... put a bunch of different tribesmen together, even ones with bad blood, and bring a light skinned brother from the states in the mix and you will see how things operate..
Can't agree with this at all, and I've seen enought from West Africans and East Africans alike.
Originally Posted by Good Job Bob: View Post
The reason for The Wire's modest ratings should be clear cut to anyone, it's a slow-paced show.

The reason for The Wire's awards? I have no clue. But before you blame white people and their prejudice remember that The Wire never won any NAACP awards either.

Award shows always get it wrong anyways, regardless of the race of the cast involved.
lol
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
If they use those dope ass covers like this, bring it on.

RIP Soulja Slim :(
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
If they use those dope ass covers like this, bring it on.

He should probably change the name of that album if his kids are gonna be using a cover like that.
DY_nasty
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(01-23-2012, 02:01 AM)

Holy fuck that cover goes hard as hell

step your game up drake
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
Holy fuck that cover goes hard as hell

step your game up drake
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Originally Posted by spindashing: View Post
That is baller shit, having bears as a entourage. "Hey BooBoo, light this fool up!"
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Man those No Limit covers were crappy.


I listened to some Mystikal yesterday too.
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Originally Posted by spindashing: View Post
I would buy this for the cover alone.