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remz
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(02-05-2012, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toodles

Can anyone with deep knowledge (perhaps with the guide?) explain to me what a 'Break Attack' property is?

Some cursory Googling tells me that it's different to whatever the term meant in SCIV; other than that, Google's drawing a blank. And the 'help' function in the game's movelist is a little faux-helpful: 'BREAK ATTACK [BA] -- moves with a Break Attack property'. Thanks game!

I'm just curious is all. I've found a few simple set-ups with ZWEI that appear to make use of this BA thing - I'm seeing larger-than-expected numbers pop up on the damage flash, but I have no idea exactly why.

One example I'm looking at is ZWEI's B+K(BE)~214B, 1A. Those first two parts do more damage when comboed than if you look at their individual values, which I assume has something to do with the Break Attack property.

Those are the attacks that break people's guard (ie it makes them recoil and stop blocking) as far as I know
CPS2
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(02-05-2012, 12:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by noodalls

I did some investigations for JG. My findings are

JG can be held for up to 4frames
You must release JG 1-6F before the attack hits.
The earliest you can repeat JG is 29F after the last time you pressed guard.
JG gives and extra -5F of block disadvantage (for the one move I tested)
JG does not change the blocking character's recovery.
GI window is F2-11.

Full thread at
http://8wayrun.com/threads/noodalls-...some-gi.10645/

Can you option select JG with a normal G if you release and then hold G within 6F of the attack hitting? They seemed to be demonstrating that in an ATP video but does it actually work?

Just so it's clear what I'm saying, quickly double tapping G is pointless right? The 2nd tap will make it so that you've voided your JG input completely? To JG properly you have to make sure you're not pressing anything at all when the attack hits right?
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Toodles
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(02-05-2012, 01:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by remz

Those are the attacks that break people's guard (ie it makes them recoil and stop blocking) as far as I know

Looks about yeah, thanks. I set the dummy to all-block and it ploughs right through it. That odd extra damage (and it's only a small amount, nothing eye-opening in itself) probably comes from being in the brief recoil state I assume.

I realised that, if they do block the first hit, the 1A at the end of that combo can be Ukemi'd out with a backroll (not side), leaving me asking for a punish. Finishing with 2K instead combos consistently though in that situation. The 1A seems to unUkemiable if the first hit lands. No idea why. Oh, for a brain that could react in time to hit-confirm options.
sixteen-bit
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(02-05-2012, 01:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alx

Did he really call Zwei "Zee-Way" ? :D

lol, that was awesome
SiegfriedFM
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(02-05-2012, 01:26 PM)
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A friend persists in calling Hwang "H-Wang".
VerTiGo
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(02-05-2012, 01:33 PM)
I have to say... I am starting to think this game has the best character roster ever in a modern fighting game.
sixteen-bit
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(02-05-2012, 01:57 PM)
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Anyone have and links to good Aeon matches?
sephi22
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(02-05-2012, 01:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by _dementia

Anyone have and links to good Aeon matches?

Good and Aeon don't go well together. :(
I've been trying to main lizard to no success.
Hitokage
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(02-05-2012, 02:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by notworksafe

If you have controller/arcade stick with Turbo button:

Assign B (attack) to X or A button (depending on console). Go to Quick Battle, pick Pyrrha Omega, find BloodFrosty, set X/A to turbo and walk away for a few hours.

I've had this running for a bit and I'm at 65-0. :D

Haha, perfect, just like how I used Yunseong and K on Auto against a 0% health inactive 2P to grind the match counter in SC3 while I slept. 2000 or even 5000 matches was nothing!
ShinobiFist
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(02-05-2012, 02:31 PM)
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I'm going to kill something if I don't figure out how to handle Sig. Those Oki setup's are sexy has hell. I need to get more offline matches with this Match-Up. Any solid Sig players on GAF(360)? I main Mitsu btw....
Sir Garbageman
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(02-05-2012, 03:36 PM)
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Guess I've been lucky so far but I haven't encountered any lame penis-y CaS characters and I've faced a decent mix of opponents. I think the two most common I've faced so far have been Ezio and Nightmare, followed by Mitsu, Pat and Natsu. Encountered some rarer characters like Ivy too. This is in the Coliseum btw.

Natsu is the bane to my existence, have no idea what to do against that insanely fast teleporting maniac.
VerTiGo
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(02-05-2012, 04:10 PM)
Why does the QCF motion have the same fuction as double-tap/hold? I don't understand, how I should be playing this game if both work....
Skilletor
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(02-05-2012, 04:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by VerTiGo

Why does the QCF motion have the same fuction as double-tap/hold? I don't understand, how I should be playing this game if both work....

It doesn't?
frequency
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(02-05-2012, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by VerTiGo

Why does the QCF motion have the same fuction as double-tap/hold? I don't understand, how I should be playing this game if both work....

It doesn't to me. It'd be a lot easier and less finger-hurty if it did!

I had to give up the Alexandra characters because I can't do QCF reliably anymore with my crummy old hands. No angel step makes me cry.
If only I could find a cheap but quality stick to play with...

Also, matchmaking should consider win ratio. Why am I being paired with someone who is like 83-7. :(
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ShinobiFist
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(02-05-2012, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by VerTiGo

Why does the QCF motion have the same fuction as double-tap/hold? I don't understand, how I should be playing this game if both work....

I wish....
scosher
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(02-05-2012, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by frequency

It doesn't to me. It'd be a lot easier and less finger-hurty if it did!

I had to give up the Alexandra characters because I can't do QCF reliably anymore with my crummy old hands. No angel step makes me cry.
If only I could find a cheap but quality stick to play with...

Also, matchmaking should consider win ratio. Why am I being paired with someone who is like 83-7. :(

Playing on a D-Pad, and my thumb is killing me after just 3 hours of play from having to do so many QCF's in this game. Might have to try stick instead. It's also much easier doing the double QCF supers with a stick rather than D-pad.
Toodles
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(02-05-2012, 06:03 PM)
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Are there any decent anti-Voldo guides out there? I need a high-school safer sex class on his fightstyle, showing me where everything goes, dos and don'ts, etc.

Or is feeling violated, slightly clammy and left with thoughts of where the nearest chemist is located the norm against him?
grap3fruitman
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(02-05-2012, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknopathetic

"Just a bit frustrated when you spend 20 hours on a character and get beat by people who have like 1W 30L online."
Where have you spent those 20 hours, though.

Certainly not in that tutorial mode that teaches you how to play the game. Wait...
radiantdreamer
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(02-05-2012, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknopathetic

"The odds of Algol showing up in that seems really low.

I've searched for him countless pages and still haven't found him in QB."


You have to be past level 12-13 and you have to fight until he shows up, not search.

Nope.

You have to unlock Legendary Souls first, then go Quick Battle. Set your search criteria to Europe, Intermediate, and New Players First sorting. He will show up rather quickly as you beat down others and do search. Found him in less than 3 minutes.

Originally Posted by El Sloth

Natsu >>>>>>>>>>>Taki

She is awesome. Where are my Natsubros at?

My usage frequency is 100% Natsu (until story mode fucked it up).

So far, my wins are around 78% with her online. I usually only end up losing to pros at 85%+ win rate.
Roto13
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(02-05-2012, 06:26 PM)
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I'm sure the Nightmare (with the title "Fair and Square") I just fought hates me. Three ring outs. :P
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sleepykyo
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(02-05-2012, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by grap3fruitman

Certainly not in that tutorial mode that teaches you how to play the game. Wait...

Well, legendary souls does a pretty good of teaching which moves are unsafe.

And the training mode does have a small tips section for each character. It was press up on the right stick until it shows up. Then select + o (then it is back + b on the 360 pad) to cycle through them.
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gutter_trash
(02-05-2012, 06:51 PM)
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i just went through Ivy's moves,
after a boycott since SC3 and SC4; Ivy will return into my fold of characters

i did not like the Vanessa-rization of Ivy in SC3 and SC4, I am glad Ivy is back!
frequency
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(02-05-2012, 07:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by scosher

Playing on a D-Pad, and my thumb is killing me after just 3 hours of play from having to do so many QCF's in this game. Might have to try stick instead. It's also much easier doing the double QCF supers with a stick rather than D-pad.

Yup. D-Pad for me too.
But it takes way less than 3 hours for my stupid weak fingers to hurt.
I used to play Cassandra and I was fine with the angel steps. But I guess I've gotten old or something. I can't do it anymore.

I never do CE's because I just can't pull them off with any kind of consistency.

I wish I had a stick. I don't think I would buy one unless they were cheap though. SC and non-tag Tekken are the only fighting games I really play and only casually. Mostly single player. Sticks aren't a justified purchase for me.
Toodles
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(02-05-2012, 07:50 PM)
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Better day online today. Spent a fair while back in the training room just going over half a dozen command normals / situational combos, then, instead of jumping into a lobby, hung out in Quick Battle for an hour or two hunting a particular title board that I wanted*. I realised that trying to get match-scenario inputs muscle-memoried down during a lobby is no good -- too much downtime between games. The non-stop AI battles were much more effective at allowing me to start pressing buttons with a means to an end.

Once I got back online, I still went through many, many losses, but I grabbed the very odd win also. Which was nice. Way more importantly though, during all those losses, I was able to tease lots of spinny 'EXCELLENT's out of my opponents' victory screens. Makes all the difference to how much fun I'm having.



* 'Nervous as hell.'

I'd seen a few people with it and it sounded absolutely descriptive of my mindstate when faced with playing a Real Person on the other side of a loading screen. I searched and searched to no avail, cutting down swathes of NPCs all the while. Of course, later on, I found it sitting quite happily in my list later on as a title unlocked by some other means. And anyways, by then I'd already married myself to the altogether more this-is-what-you-should-expect-from-me title card of 'Reckless fool.'
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Skilletor
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(02-05-2012, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by frequency

Yup. D-Pad for me too.
But it takes way less than 3 hours for my stupid weak fingers to hurt.
I used to play Cassandra and I was fine with the angel steps. But I guess I've gotten old or something. I can't do it anymore.

I never do CE's because I just can't pull them off with any kind of consistency.

I wish I had a stick. I don't think I would buy one unless they were cheap though. SC and non-tag Tekken are the only fighting games I really play and only casually. Mostly single player. Sticks aren't a justified purchase for me.

You can get a WWE mad cats stick for 30 bucks.
samus4ever
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(02-05-2012, 07:53 PM)
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How do I get into spectator mode for online? I don't really want to fight online right now but would love to watch matches.
Toodles
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(02-05-2012, 07:58 PM)
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There's no spectator mode as such (that I'm aware of).

Closest thing you could get would be to host a lobby and just hope it fills up reasonably well. You then let the matches pass you by and people play over you. I have no idea what, if any, etiquette there is around that sort of thing.

EDit: Or another (easier yet grainier) option would be to check if the 8WayRun lobby is up. :]
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Hours Left
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(02-05-2012, 08:21 PM)
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This is starting to bother me, I'm still not able to play any matches online.

I've got 100% internet connection and 4 or 5 bar matches but the game still lags out and disconnects at the beginning of EVERY match. I've never had any trouble with other online PS3 games, so why is this happening?

Is it on Namco's end? Because it seems like the majority of you guys aren't having any problems at all. :/
i nerini del buio
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(02-05-2012, 08:27 PM)
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oh wow, just paused the game and noticed Natsu has a fully 3d modeled and normal mapped cameltoe
And they spent quite a good amount of polygons on it, I'd say :lol
NoctisLuna
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(02-05-2012, 08:35 PM)
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Ordered the guide online but got to wait a week :(
Zomba13
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(02-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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You know what? FUCK Hard mode Nightmare.
Finally beat him but took almost 45 mins. I'm crying just thinking about Legendary Souls mode ;_;
Guesong
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(02-05-2012, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zomba13

You know what? FUCK Hard mode Nightmare.
Finally beat him but took almost 45 mins. I'm crying just thinking about Legendary Souls mode ;_;

If it's any consolation, just follow the advice a good fellow gave here and use Viola for Legendary Souls.

8A+B, B+K worked wonder, though Algol was a little bitch at the end still.
R_thanatos
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(02-05-2012, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zomba13

You know what? FUCK Hard mode Nightmare.
Finally beat him but took almost 45 mins. I'm crying just thinking about Legendary Souls mode ;_;

I feel exactly like you nightmare is just so hard in this game...The Ai is just so good every mistake is punished instanly
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(02-05-2012, 08:54 PM)
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MCZ Kayane is too hard to beat with my ZWEI :-(
samus4ever
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(02-05-2012, 08:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toodles

There's no spectator mode as such (that I'm aware of).

Closest thing you could get would be to host a lobby and just hope it fills up reasonably well. You then let the matches pass you by and people play over you. I have no idea what, if any, etiquette there is around that sort of thing.

EDit: Or another (easier yet grainier) option would be to check if the 8WayRun lobby is up. :]

Cool. Can I join a lobby and watch or is hosting a better option? I was just missing around with it last night because it was the first time I could actually connect to the Global Colosseo successfully.
Gr1mLock
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(02-05-2012, 09:04 PM)
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Been away from the thread for a while and just happy to see that regular pat is nowhere near as liked as I thought.
Toodles
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(02-05-2012, 09:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by samus4ever

Cool. Can I join a lobby and watch or is hosting a better option?

Well you can do what you like, obviously. :]

That said, personally, I'd feel kinda awkward jumping into someone else's lobby to just spectate though. At the very least I'd ask the lobby host in chat if s/he was cool with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a kick if you just lurked silently. At least with your own lobby you're in charge and you've no chance of treading on toes (if someone creates, say, a 5-person lobby, it's understandable if they hoped to actually play against four other people).

You could even allude to the fact you're just spectating in your lobby's name just so's people know what to expect. 'Dance for me' has a not-at-all-creepy ring to it.
jmdajr
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(02-05-2012, 09:24 PM)
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Just a few notes...

I rented Soul Caliber V this weekend and had enjoyed playing it. Character creation is awesome but I did feel the cpu was a bit over powered. I felt like once I got knocked down it's over :( Just completely helpless. Regardless I had fun and made me want to try out my older games. I never got part IV so it's been awhile.

I found III in my collection even though I hardly played it. And man...doe sit look AWFUL on my PS3. I know we are in the HD era but my memory of the old games can't be that bad. Just looks like a blurry mess.

After that I found my copy of Soul Caliber II for Xbox and was happy it worked on my 360. That looked MUCH better. I don't know if the PS3 emulation sucks or what but it turned me off to playing the game.

As far as part 2 goes that story mode is much more involved than what 5 offers. Also, it's seems IVY isn't as fun to use anymore. She used to be swinging her whip every which way.
Her version if part 5 is not as cool.

Anyhow that's all I have to add.

V graphics do look awesome by the way. Might pick up part IV now..it's only 20 bucks.
Might get 5 when cheaper.

any thoughts welcome.
samus4ever
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(02-05-2012, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toodles

Well you can do what you like, obviously. :]

That said, personally, I'd feel kinda awkward jumping into someone else's lobby to just spectate though. At the very least I'd ask the lobby host in chat if s/he was cool with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a kick if you just lurked silently. At least with your own lobby you're in charge and you've no chance of treading on toes (if someone creates, say, a 5-person lobby, it's understandable if they hoped to actually play against four other people).

You could even allude to the fact you're just spectating in your lobby's name just so's people know what to expect. 'Dance for me' has a not-at-all-creepy ring to it.

Yeah, I'll play people. It's just I'm not good right now and I swear I read in the manual about a spectator mode so I was just wondering how to get to it :) I got my answer now lol.
SiegfriedFM
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(02-05-2012, 09:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by jmdajr

Just a few notes...

I rented Soul Caliber V this weekend and had enjoyed playing it. Character creation is awesome but I did feel the cpu was a bit over powered. I felt like once I got knocked down it's over :( Just completely helpless. Regardless I had fun and made me want to try out my older games. I never got part IV so it's been awhile.

I found III in my collection even though I hardly played it. And man...doe sit look AWFUL on my PS3. I know we are in the HD era but my memory of the old games can't be that bad. Just looks like a blurry mess.

After that I found my copy of Soul Caliber II for Xbox and was happy it worked on my 360. That looked MUCH better. I don't know if the PS3 emulation sucks or what but it turned me off to playing the game.

As far as part 2 goes that story mode is much more involved than what 5 offers. Also, it's seems IVY isn't as fun to use anymore. She used to be swinging her whip every which way.
Her version if part 5 is not as cool.

Anyhow that's all I have to add.

V graphics do look awesome by the way. Might pick up part IV now..it's only 20 bucks.
Might get 5 when cheaper.

any thoughts welcome.

Soul Calibur II runs in 720p on Xbox (and I assume on 360) so it holds up much better. I think the models and design are better on III though.
Hours Left
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(02-05-2012, 10:13 PM)
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So, if anyone wants a really easy/brain dead way to rack up Player Points...

-Go to Options, set the B attack to the X button. (Or whatever the confirm button is on the 360.)
-Go to Arcade, Set the difficulty to easy and pick any route. Select Raphael or Cervantes.
-Mash X for profit.

Now you can watch a movie/the Superbowl, read a book, surf the net, etc. all while grinding PP. I'm actually doing it right now.

And in case anyone is wondering, you'll have all the CaS gear and weapons by player level 53. Everything after that is just titles, backgrounds and patterns/stickers.
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GotchaForce
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Had some piece of shit talk trash about me online "omg, all you can do is the same move over and over?!?!" while I played Raphael. It's Raph, he's supposed to go for guard breaks as much as possible.
Papercuts
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(02-05-2012, 11:00 PM)
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I got a rage mail from a Mitsu last night when I did Xiba's dirty bo on the edge of the stage when I almost got perfected. I love that move, I got so much shit for it in IV.
remz
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(02-05-2012, 11:06 PM)
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I found one other australian in ranked two nights ago and now I can't find another to paly against, ever. :|

100% 1-0 win ratio in ranked 4eva
B00TE
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(02-05-2012, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Papercuts

I got a rage mail from a Mitsu last night when I did Xiba's dirty bo on the edge of the stage when I almost got perfected. I love that move, I got so much shit for it in IV.

I was so happy to see that move still in.
CcrooK
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(02-05-2012, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by robut

Had some piece of shit talk trash about me online "omg, all you can do is the same move over and over?!?!" while I played Raphael. It's Raph, he's supposed to go for guard breaks as much as possible.

Psh, if the guy can't learn to sidestep well...that's his problem. Raph is awesome. Glad I picked him up this time.
sleepykyo
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(02-05-2012, 11:30 PM)
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Ferrio, you're too popular. Who should I message to get into GAF chat?

Originally Posted by Gr1mLock

Been away from the thread for a while and just happy to see that regular pat is nowhere near as liked as I thought.

What do you have against Pat?
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V_Arnold
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(02-05-2012, 11:34 PM)
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Met with a lot of Xibas online. Beat all of them with my Xiba.
One was a Luffy, his name was "take away my winning streak please", or something like that.
I did :D

This other dude has the name Pinky Popo or something like that, was almost nude, was Astaroth, with purple underwear, and his stat was 18-0. I was afraid. First because of his potential skill, then because he might be a ragequitter, and I finished him with a clean 3-0 (round-wise), ending with a Hyper :D. But: he did not ragequit, so good for him. 18-1 now, I guess :D

Xiba is quite tricky. On the surface, he is plain as hell. But if you want to become unpredictable, you gotta start utilizing the weirder inputs. And from there on, one has to have a solid mixup game. Still struggle some against Patroklos: if I am the offensive one, I win. If I stop for a second, I might even lose the blocking battle.
DR2K
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(02-05-2012, 11:36 PM)
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Lots of Xiba's just like there were tons of Kiliks in SCIV. Trying to herp derp their way to wins.
V_Arnold
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Originally Posted by DR2K

Lots of Xiba's just like there were tons of Kiliks in SCIV. Trying to herp derp their way to wins.

I do not really get this, honestly. There are MUCH easier options to "herp derp", just choose one of the launcher-happy Patro/Pyrrha/Omega Pyrrha chars and mash it more safely, a bit more faster. Xiba hits a skill cap quite fast, if they are not using their brains. But whatever, people like staffs , news at 11. :D

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