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Falagard
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(03-05-2012, 02:49 PM)
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Wrap Around? Really?

I'll give Halo 4 a wrap around any day.
Deadly Cyclone
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(03-05-2012, 02:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by MMaRsu

Perks? Ugh... a deep sigh indeed. Fuck so much less excited now.

Not sure why, perks seem to be a far better way to do play-style changes than the armor abilities. Plus, we don't even know what they are yet.
SteveO409
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(03-05-2012, 02:49 PM)
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God damn I haven't got chills from a FPS video in a long time. Good luck 343 studios!
Khezu
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(03-05-2012, 02:50 PM)
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Looks neat.

I don't mind perks as long as there fairly well balanced, unlike CoD.
Just have them all unlocked from the start, don't start any of that annoying RPG shit that has ruined every other shooter/racing/EVERYTHING.
phosphor112
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(03-05-2012, 02:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by JaggedSac

There is definitely a risk of making the game unbalanced. But there are more games than CoD that have unlockables that affect gameplay and people love those. BF is a good example.

While those games are popular, their balance is terrible.
KageMaru
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(03-05-2012, 02:52 PM)
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Was hoping to see some HUD bobbing going on but no go =/

Also looks like it's sub-HD still, hopefully no lower than Reach.

Looked great otherwise, and looks like it moves a lot faster than Reach.

Originally Posted by AzerPhire

Are we getting actual trailers for either SP/MP or is the vidoc all we are getting today?

Some people weren't even expecting this much =p
alr1ght
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(03-05-2012, 02:52 PM)
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Perks in all forms ruin competitive balance.
Cartman86
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(03-05-2012, 02:53 PM)
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So no more 3rd person stuff right? You want me immersed in a visceral first person perspective then give me some crazy first person driving!
The Shift
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(03-05-2012, 02:53 PM)
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Halo 3 health system? Hope not.

It looks nice, but the Halo games hit a wall at H2. I mean if this game only supports 16 player MP then it's already running at a loss. If only the MP could have that same essence that makes the campaign so good - a massive multi-encounter sandbox. The MP game never lived up to that premise for me. That said, H4 looks good for the dyed in the wool Halo fans.
Conor 419
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(03-05-2012, 02:54 PM)
They have persistently given the message that they're in it to please everyone, so I imagine there'll be playlists without perks. However the inclusion of them, the lack of colour and so far, the lack of anything 'new' is what's making this very very concerning.
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(03-05-2012, 02:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by KageMaru

Also looks like it's sub-HD still, hopefully no lower than Reach.

Not sub-HD.
OdysseusVA
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(03-05-2012, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

Not sub-HD.

:O
phosphor112
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(03-05-2012, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

Not sub-HD.

Source?
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(03-05-2012, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by phosphor112

Source?

Source? He works at 343...

Are we seeing anything else today David? (Singleplayer please)
Trevelyon
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(03-05-2012, 02:56 PM)
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Nothing particularly impressive in the vid, though the footage seemed to be largely focused on the mp maps. Need to see how the sp looks.
snoopeasystreet
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(03-05-2012, 02:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Shift

Halo 3 health system? Hope not.

It looks nice, but the Halo games hit a wall at H2. I mean if this game only supports 16 player MP then it's already running at a loss. If only the MP could have that same essence that makes the campaign so good - a massive multi-encounter sandbox. The MP game never lived up to that premise for me. That said, H4 looks good for the dyed in the wool Halo fans.

For me, 4 on 4 is where Halo is at it's best. There's a level of strategy and control that gets thrown out the windows as soon as you start upping the player count.
strafer
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(03-05-2012, 02:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vire

Source? He works at 343...

Are we seeing anything else today David?

No way? o.0
Stripper13
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(03-05-2012, 02:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by phosphor112

One thing I liked about the series is the lack of bullshit unlocks that made the game unbalanced. Everyone used to play on an equal playing field.

I'd bet my house and my car that there will be a playlist/gametype, with a substantial multiplayer population - that will be vanilla, no perks, fast, BR gameplay.

I'd bet a small fortune that if anyone can make a perk system 'fit' into Halo's MP gameplay, it will be Frankie's 343 Team. Personally, my initial thoughts on a perk system lead me to believe we will see something extremely mild in comparison to COD/Battlefield. Possibly something similar to League of Legends Runes. Whereby Spartan customization may net you tiny/incremental stat increases in the form of sprint/ability cooldowns, reload times, jump height, health/shield regen etc - obviously in lieu of other potential stat increases. That is of course, purely speculation - but I'm 99.9% certain that we're not going to be seeing Sleight of Hand/Stalker/Cold-Blooded/Danger-Close, game changers.

People want customization and perks - it's going to be a critical aspect of the Multiplayer to implement - if the game is ever going to grow and maintain a larger ongoing player base - let alone get anywhere near COD numbers. People want to be able to select a bullshit perk that artificially compensates for their play style or gives a possible unfair advantage over an enemy - the trick for 343i, will be hooking these players, without going full-retard (COD). There is almost definitely some sweet spot between perks/customization, and vanilla Halo/arena-shooting, that will please a significant portion of the userbase (and keep Halo fresh for a while). For the more traditional MP fans, the straight up BR, no-perk playlist is going to be plenty.
wwm0nkey
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(03-05-2012, 02:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Strafer

No way? o.0

Yep that my good sir is the mythical creature known as David Ellis lol
RedSparrows
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(03-05-2012, 02:57 PM)

Originally Posted by The Shift

Halo 3 health system? Hope not.

It looks nice, but the Halo games hit a wall at H2. I mean if this game only supports 16 player MP then it's already running at a loss. If only the MP could have that same essence that makes the campaign so good - a massive multi-encounter sandbox. The MP game never lived up to that premise for me. That said, H4 looks good for the dyed in the wool Halo fans.

Halo MP has its own essence, though.

I'm not saying I'd complain if they suddenly unveiled 64 player Halo battles, because I'd weep with joy.

But at the same time, player count = high does not = good game, necessarily. Halo MP is sublime 4 on 4, and that's because it's designed for it. The 'sandbox' of options is available - if not more so, in MP - and that's what makes it tick, and ties it to Halo SP.

It's not Battlefield, and I like it for that. Again, if they brought in larger battles, cool. But I love Halo as an arena/small-team shooter. That's where it shines, and that's where it kicks every other game into a hat, for me anyway.
godhandiscen
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(03-05-2012, 02:58 PM)
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I believe I just finished taking it all. I woke up at 5:00AM for these news and it was worth it. This reveal delivered like a Christmas morning when you are a child. Thank you 343i.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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(03-05-2012, 02:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by KageMaru

Was hoping to see some HUD bobbing going on but no go =/

You can see a transparent outline of the visor in the gameplay in this gif. I'm betting it's just this way for multiplayer or you can turn it off
shinobi602
(03-05-2012, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

Not sub-HD.

DMeisterJ
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(03-05-2012, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plywood

Halo Gifs

:bow

Game looks so amazing in motion.
alr1ght
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(03-05-2012, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

Not sub-HD.

so 1280x720 then. Confirm or deny.
TheOddOne
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(03-05-2012, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

Not sub-HD.

You are lying.

:P
plagiarize
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(03-05-2012, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by KageMaru

Also looks like it's sub-HD still, hopefully no lower than Reach.

i'm pretty amazed anyone could think otherwise based on these videos. jaggies are apparent, yes, but even on youtube HD these look pretty damn sharp and full 720p. even if we didn't have a dev confirming it...
Tunavi
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(03-05-2012, 03:02 PM)
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I'm so giddy this morning hahahaha
Hix
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(03-05-2012, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by godhandiscen

I believe I just finished taking it all. I woke up at 5:00AM for these news and it was worth it. This reveal delivered like a Christmas morning when you are a child. Thank you 343i.

My thoughts exactly. As a Halo fan I couldn't have asked for more. Audio, speed, graphics, BR, everything looks fantastic.

Big kudos to David, Frankie and other 343i GAF members that may be about. Good job on keeping the awesome from leaking out.
Gareth Bale
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(03-05-2012, 03:03 PM)
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Still very much Halo, which is a good thing.
The English Conquistador
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(03-05-2012, 03:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Yeti

I believe Frankie said here on NeoGaf that all music we will be hearing from now on will be from Halo 4.

Well that's fantastic then! The music throughout the video is absolutely stellar. 1:50 and 2:45 especially stand out to me. And the ending of course. :)

As a huge Halo fan, I'm extremely excited.
Lebron
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(03-05-2012, 03:03 PM)
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Looks great, and if they really plan to flesh out the story then I'm all there. Got tired of Bungie's "see other media for story" bs.
Magni
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(03-05-2012, 03:04 PM)
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I don't care if we barely saw anything, I'm hyped! Been waiting for this for far too long haha
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(03-05-2012, 03:04 PM)
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I rewatched the ViDoc and again I can't say how much I love the music. Very very well done.

Certainly lightens my other grievances.

It's not enough to judge anything on though. Hopefully we'll get to see more shortly.
andylsun
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(03-05-2012, 03:05 PM)
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Why is there a Metal Gear in my Halo. That looks like the mech from MGS4, the ones that moo...
infinityBCRT
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(03-05-2012, 03:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Vire

I rewatched the ViDoc and again I can't say how much I love the music. Very very well done.

Certainly lightens my other grievances.

It's not enough to judge anything on though. Hopefully we'll get to see more shortly.

Guessing you can thank Ryan Payton for that since Sotaro Tojima seems to be working on the music.
snoopeasystreet
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(03-05-2012, 03:06 PM)
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This thread is moving quite slow for a halo thread. Is halo gaf discussing it in their community ghetto?
DR3AM
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(03-05-2012, 03:07 PM)
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Woke up early just because of this. I'm glad I did.

Any more footage to come? A full MP match?
EuropeOG
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(03-05-2012, 03:08 PM)
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They had me at standalone MP maps, no recycled SP sections.

Praise Jesus!
Stinkles
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by KageMaru

Was hoping to see some HUD bobbing going on but no go =/

Also looks like it's sub-HD still, hopefully no lower than Reach.

Looked great otherwise, and looks like it moves a lot faster than Reach.



Some people weren't even expecting this much =p

It is native 720p.
thehypocrite
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by DennisK4

Where are the gifs?

GAF fail

Gaf feed me the gifs!!!
S1kkZ
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by DR3AM

Woke up early just because of this. I'm glad I did.

Any more footage to come? A full MP match?

i think this is it until e3.
GDGF
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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That video was nice.

Very nice.
Meus Renaissance
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Public BETA next week?

I wish
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

It is native 720p.

Dat megaton.

Are you sure you don't want to release a beta? *wink wink*
Mik2121
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(03-05-2012, 03:09 PM)
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Oh gosh... that looked great. Really looking forward to this game!! :D
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(03-05-2012, 03:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

It is native 720p.



Vire
DancingJesus
(03-05-2012, 03:10 PM)
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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...You--John.html

Another short article.

Surprisingly little amount of information out there. I guess they didn't show much.
S1kkZ
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(03-05-2012, 03:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

It is native 720p.

great. now lets hope it runs better than anniversary (please).
ThankeeSai
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(03-05-2012, 03:10 PM)
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You can see it better on the gifs, but the HUD appears to be moving a'la BF3, too. Looks a bit more subtle though.

Good news for plasma owners :D

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