BigAT
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(03-08-2012, 01:33 PM)

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#9751

So I pop on SC2 this morning for the first time in quite a while because I want to just knock out my placement match for the new season before it expires. I somehow manage to win my game (my last 1v1 ladder game was over 10 weeks ago) because I guess ZvP is still free wins and then this happens:



Stunned.
Q8D3vil
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(03-08-2012, 03:00 PM)

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#9752

Originally Posted by BigAT: View Post
So I pop on SC2 this morning for the first time in quite a while because I want to just knock out my placement match for the new season before it expires. I somehow manage to win my game (my last 1v1 ladder game was over 10 weeks ago) because I guess ZvP is still free wins and then this happens:



Stunned.
Congratulation :D
jasonng
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(03-08-2012, 04:52 PM)

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#9753

Originally Posted by BigAT: View Post
So I pop on SC2 this morning for the first time in quite a while because I want to just knock out my placement match for the new season before it expires. I somehow manage to win my game (my last 1v1 ladder game was over 10 weeks ago) because I guess ZvP is still free wins and then this happens:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZkcXk.jpg[IMG]

Stunned.
Complete bullshit. Please set yourself on fire.
zlatko
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(03-08-2012, 04:57 PM)

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#9754

Originally Posted by jasonng: View Post
Complete bullshit. Please set yourself on fire.
onolaughing.gif

Thanks for this. Made me laugh out loud at work. :P
cdyhybrid
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(03-08-2012, 05:23 PM)

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#9755

Damnit! TL mousepad goes on sale a day after I buy one off Amazon.

And Blizzard making an announcement tomorrow... HotS delayed til next year?!
Last edited by cdyhybrid; 03-08-2012 at 05:28 PM.
Holden
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(03-08-2012, 05:30 PM)

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#9756

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
Damnit! TL mousepad goes on sale a day after I buy one off Amazon.

And Blizzard making an announcement tomorrow... HotS delayed til next year?!
i would say its diablo 3 related for the release date on 17th april ( i don't think its official?)

unless they said its sc2 related
Last edited by Holden; 03-08-2012 at 05:35 PM.
Spl1nter
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(03-08-2012, 05:36 PM)

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#9757

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
Damnit! TL mousepad goes on sale a day after I buy one off Amazon.

And Blizzard making an announcement tomorrow... HotS delayed til next year?!
Where is our beta :(
cdyhybrid
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(03-08-2012, 05:48 PM)

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Originally Posted by Hugoboss21: View Post
i would say its diablo 3 related for the release date on 17th april ( i don't think its official?)

unless they said its sc2 related
TL thread said it's HotS-related.
BigAT
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(03-08-2012, 05:50 PM)

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#9759

Originally Posted by jasonng: View Post
Complete bullshit. Please set yourself on fire.
PhoenixPause
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(03-08-2012, 06:17 PM)

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#9760

Originally Posted by Zzoram: View Post
That's you. Many people do, so it's better to not use the words, especially since there are alternatives.



For SC2 to grow to Broodwar levels of long term sustainability and mass appeal, it has to be able to attract a wider audience and lose the man-baby stigma. That won't happen if people are raging over losing and saying offensive words on stream for thousands of people to hear. People want to be able to watch this with their families, kids, girlfriends, etc. and that's not really possible if you've got people talking like Destiny.

Broodwar's audience was ~50% female because they managed to keep it professional and carefully manage it's image and market it's players. Being able to get both males and females means more advertising dollars, which means sustainability. The current SC2 scene is losing too much money to last much longer. Investors are only backing these tournaments because of the hope of it growing enough to become self sustaining and even one day profitable, but that can't happen if the audience is limited because of childish and easily corrected things like offensive words being said in public turning off viewers and advertisers. If HotS is out this Fall and by the end of the year professional SC2 isn't any closer to sustainability, I expect 2013 will suffer cut backs in prize pools and possibly salaries.

I would rather professional SC2 succeed than have it fail because Destiny and those like him want to be able to say this on tournament streams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQedw7R1zk
I'm not sure professionalism is what's holding the game's success back. It's a mixture of things, from poor Blizzard support to the fact that RTS still isn't a mainstream genre for most people. Right now the esports infrastructure is too big to justify costs, and I do agree things will scale back next year. Remember, many of the female fans in Korea were more fans of certain players and the drama, not so much the actual game. I don't see that playing out in the US or anywhere else.

SC2 isn't as big or marketable as DOTA stuff right now, I don't see that changing, especially as Koreans continue to dominate the scene. As it gets harder to win, I do expect many guys like Destiny to move on to easier games.
Holden
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(03-08-2012, 06:27 PM)

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#9761

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
TL thread said it's HotS-related.
I didn't find anything saying that it has sc2 related so my call still is diablo3 >.>

i guess it could be both :/
cdyhybrid
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(03-08-2012, 06:29 PM)

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#9762

Originally Posted by Hugoboss21: View Post
I didn't find anything saying that it has sc2 related so my call still is diablo3 >.>

i guess it could be both :/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=305155
Deadman
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(03-08-2012, 07:01 PM)

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#9763

Hopefully their announcement is that the shredder has been removed and the swarmhost is instead going to be the lurker

Edit:

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/com...etition-format

MLG has posted their rules for columbus.

The main change is the change to extended series. Now if two players meet in the final having already played then the final will now be a best of 9 extended series instead of bo7.

If the players in the finals have not met then it will now be a bo5. If winner bracket player wins its over, if lower bracket player wins its now bo9 extended series.

Everything else still bo3 and bo7 extended series.
Last edited by Deadman; 03-08-2012 at 07:49 PM.
Zzoram
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(03-08-2012, 07:49 PM)

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Originally Posted by Deadman: View Post
Hopefully their announcement is that the shredder has been removed and the swarmhost is instead going to be the lurker
And that they'll scrap the new protoss fat phoenix and instead keep the Carrier but give Interceptors regenerating health and make their build time faster.
PhoenixPause
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(03-08-2012, 07:57 PM)

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#9765

Originally Posted by Zzoram: View Post
And that they'll scrap the new protoss fat phoenix and instead keep the Carrier but give Interceptors regenerating health and make their build time faster.
I'd...be ok with that
Zzoram
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(03-08-2012, 08:05 PM)

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#9766

Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
I'd...be ok with that
It would make carriers far more viable. In Broodwar the interceptors healed whenever they docked in the carrier.
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 08:43 PM)

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#9767

Regards to orb and his colorful chat in game
Quote:
hey, everyone. alex (ceo of evil geniuses) here.
i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
If EG didnt know this shit before hand, what are the doing to research people prior to hiring? lol
Deadman
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(03-08-2012, 08:52 PM)

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#9768

There is also a 3rd picture of him saying naughty words up today. Hes so gone lol
Zzoram
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(03-08-2012, 09:00 PM)

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#9769

Orb won't be missed. There are dozens of amateur casters jumping with glee over the openings Orb's departure might give them.
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 09:08 PM)

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#9770

Quick Haz sign up for the eg casting job!

Then get fired for knowing splinter.
Hazaro
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(03-08-2012, 09:19 PM)

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#9771

Sounds like a plan!
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 09:31 PM)

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#9772

Originally Posted by Hazaro: View Post
Sounds like a plan!
go get it!




also:
Quote:
Fun fact: Orbs intro movie "a new lair resident" has already been removed from the the Evil Geniuses YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfITx-WVe7w
lol
Yobalt
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(03-08-2012, 09:32 PM)

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#9773

Anyone who has ever watched Orb on his stream should have seen this coming.

I was stunned when EG hired him.
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 09:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by Yobalt: View Post
Anyone who has ever watched Orb on his stream should have seen this coming.

I was stunned when EG hired him.
Yep. Its like they did no research on his past. Only heard him cast NASL/Korean tournys and be like HIRED.
PhoenixPause
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(03-08-2012, 09:48 PM)

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#9775

They should hire Gretorp
Paches-EJ-
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(03-08-2012, 09:51 PM)

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Idra should quit playing and do analytical commentating. I enjoyed his breakdown of the game last night when he did Zenio/Supernova with Apollo.
Last edited by Paches-EJ-; 03-08-2012 at 09:58 PM. Reason: Grammar
AdventureRacing
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(03-08-2012, 09:55 PM)
#9777

Originally Posted by Paches-EJ-: View Post
Idra should quit playing and doing analytical commentating. I enjoyed his breakdown of the game last night when he did Zenio/Supernova with Apollo.
Yeah when he commentated GSL he was quite good as well. You can tell he has a strong understanding of the game.
cdyhybrid
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(03-08-2012, 11:20 PM)

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TL never ceases to amaze me. A lot of people posting seem to have no problem with orb dropping n-bombs all over the place because people on ladder do it all the time. Sorry, being on a pro-team means you have standards to meet, unlike the dregs of the SC2 community.

I'm tempted to give Stephano 's ZvP style a try, but I've done pretty well with the mass Muta style so far.
Last edited by cdyhybrid; 03-08-2012 at 11:23 PM.
Hazaro
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(03-08-2012, 11:23 PM)

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Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
TL never ceases to amaze me. A lot of people posting seem to have no problem with orb dropping n-bombs all over the place because people on ladder do it all the time. Sorry, being on a pro-team means you have standards to meet, unlike the dregs of the SC2 community.
TL was ruined when they got so many people in from SC II.

They are trying to damn hard to mod, but it's a losing battle.
PhoenixPause
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(03-08-2012, 11:23 PM)

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#9780

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
TL never ceases to amaze me. A lot of people posting seem to have no problem with orb dropping n-bombs all over the place because people on ladder do it all the time. Sorry, being on a pro-team means you have standards to meet, unlike the dregs of the SC2 community.
Dropping n-bombs is fine, criticizing Dragon for stream cheating is wrong and unacceptable. lol
hamchan
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(03-08-2012, 11:27 PM)

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#9781

Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Dropping n-bombs is fine, criticizing Dragon for stream cheating is wrong and unacceptable. lol
You're really taking Katu's side of calling players out for stream cheating with no evidence? Really?
hoverX
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(03-08-2012, 11:29 PM)

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#9782

The rampant racism in sc2 is starting to bother me. I just joined a clan and it's full of 20 year olds who act like this and think there is nothing wrong with it...

I should start playing with gaf instead.
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 11:33 PM)

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#9783

Originally Posted by hoverX: View Post
The rampant racism in sc2 is starting to bother me. I just joined a clan and it's full of 20 year olds who act like this and think there is nothing wrong with it...

I should start playing with gaf instead.
We dont allow saint fans in this club. You might put a bounty on my head!
PhoenixPause
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(03-08-2012, 11:35 PM)

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#9784

Originally Posted by Corran Horn: View Post
We dont allow saint fans in this club. You might put a bounty on my head!
Why would anyone put a bounty on a 49ers fan, you guys are worthless!
hoverX
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(03-08-2012, 11:35 PM)

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#9785

Shit. I knew this was coming.
cdyhybrid
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(03-08-2012, 11:35 PM)

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#9786

Originally Posted by Corran Horn: View Post
We dont allow saint fans in this club. You might put a bounty on my head!
Don't you *want* a bounty on Baby-Hands Alex though?
Corran Horn
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(03-08-2012, 11:36 PM)

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#9787

Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Why would anyone put a bounty on a 49ers fan, you guys are worthless!
WedgeX
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(03-08-2012, 11:37 PM)

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#9788

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
Don't you *want* a bounty on Baby-Hands Alex though?
Corran's got a small hand fetish. Otherwise he'd be all over pey pey.
Fuchsdh
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(03-09-2012, 12:29 AM)

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#9789

I used to think the SC2 community was by a fluke a better one than the stereotypical worst potentials out there--CoD and to a lesser degree Halo. I no longer think that.

The only reason SC2 is not as bad as CoD is the RTS genre (and PC gaming in general) being more niche, and the lack of pervasive voice chat. Luckily those barriers are unlikely to go away, but we've still got to live with the cretins in our midst.
Tashi
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(03-09-2012, 12:33 AM)

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Originally Posted by Fuchsdh: View Post
I used to think the SC2 community was by a fluke a better one than the stereotypical worst potentials out there--CoD and to a lesser degree Halo. I no longer think that.

The only reason SC2 is not as bad as CoD is the RTS genre (and PC gaming in general) being more niche, and the lack of pervasive voice chat. Luckily those barriers are unlikely to go away, but we've still got to live with the cretins in our midst.
My plan is to bring shit talking to SC2. I've got a reputation to uphold.
hamchan
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(03-09-2012, 01:10 AM)

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#9791

The only reason SC2 appears better than other gaming communities is because of good guys like Day[9] and Tastosis actually making it to the top. Really, the common players are no better than other communities, with a large number of them being unsociable assholes.
Hazaro
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(03-09-2012, 01:18 AM)

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#9792

Good PvP game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSBmRPkySUs
PhoenixPause
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(03-09-2012, 01:22 AM)

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#9793

Originally Posted by Hazaro: View Post
no 4 gate? no sale
Hazaro
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(03-09-2012, 01:25 AM)

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#9794

Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
no 4 gate? no sale
3 gate into expand is basically 4 gate into expand.
cdyhybrid
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(03-09-2012, 02:15 AM)

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#9795

Mmmmmm Day9 posted a Stephano replay pack.

https://twitter.com/#!/day9tv/status/177668803008798721
Zzoram
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(03-09-2012, 02:19 AM)

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#9796

Originally Posted by hamchan: View Post
The only reason SC2 appears better than other gaming communities is because of good guys like Day[9] and Tastosis actually making it to the top. Really, the common players are no better than other communities, with a large number of them being unsociable assholes.
Thank goodness for people with some self control becoming the faces of SC2.

All it takes is 1 news story by CNN about how SC2 culture is seeped with racist language and sentiment and the entire scene will die overnight as sponsors abandon it.
Corran Horn
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(03-09-2012, 02:54 AM)

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#9797

Shocking News: Orb dismissed from EG. Good read though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=319018
hamchan
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(03-09-2012, 02:57 AM)

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Originally Posted by Corran Horn: View Post
Shocking News: Orb dismissed from EG. Good read though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=319018
Y'know, I think it's actually a good sign that the community banded together to get this dude fired. Some fine spirit there.
PhoenixPause
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(03-09-2012, 03:07 AM)

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Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
Mmmmmm Day9 posted a Stephano replay pack.

https://twitter.com/#!/day9tv/status/177668803008798721
Nice. I've been really trying to get early 3 hatch builds to work in ZvP (against FFA). Initially I'd put down my third shortly after my natural expansion finished, but that was a bad idea: I noticed warpgate would be almost finished by the time my third was up, and protoss would just punish the shit out of me. Seeing Stephano and other zergs timings, I put it down earlier now.

For instance, a game I played on Meta:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3zbmiebrl0fpxgv
(Pandaaaaa watch plz)
hoverX
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(03-09-2012, 03:20 AM)

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Originally Posted by hamchan: View Post
Y'know, I think it's actually a good sign that the community banded together to get this dude fired. Some fine spirit there.
Totally. This is a great move