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A Black Falcon
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(03-21-2012, 08:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kagami

Moeskirt Pirates 11
Welp, whatever little hesitation about buying this I might have had last week is fully evaporated. Putting in orders now, Captain!

Each episode is better than the last.
I'm still not entirely sure how to describe why exactly, besides the obvious Star Trekishness, but I guess the direction and characters are just that appealing.
I think I may even like the male characters as they are, rather than my usual opinion of shows being improved by replacing all men with little girls.

I was somewhat skeptical about the adult pirate too, at first, but yes, they're good characters, and I've come to like them as well. It has a good cast, and the male characters are actually done well and fit here, which as you say, is something of an accomplishment.

And I seem to be able to deal with CG spaceships when there's no 2D in the frame for contrast, unlike the CG cars and trains that bug me a lot in other shows.

Yeah, the CG looks fine.

Now if only they get real singers or character VAs to do the OP/ED for the second half, it'll be perfect.

The OP is great, they don't need to change it at all!

Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light

Moretsu Pirates 11

The space parts have been the best parts to the anime so far. Visuals as well as the intense sound kept me on the edge of my seat for the large duration that it took place. Kane is a great sternsman, and pretty epic with the backing in to dock to the Serendipity, and San Daime too, cool character. Marika is still a great main who has had phenomenal development, possibly one of the top female protagonists.

You have a good point here about the audio -- ep. 11 definitely made great use of sound, I agree. The creaking of the ship as they struggled their way through the "waves" really helped amp up the tension and danger. I knew that they'd make it through of course, but still, it was definitely quite tense... very well done.

Originally Posted by Matt_C

Yeah, I just saw Sailing 11 and there was some mad Star Trek space navigation mojo going on (ie the best Trek Episodes had veiled nautical tropes)! Poor Serenity Princesses, why can't finding old relics be good for everyone in the kingdom. I doubt the younger one would actually want to sabotage a family relic like that.

I didn't really understand the point on what the other sister wanted to do... it made more sense to you I guess?

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

Mouretsu Pirates 09:

I'm really hoping that the golden ghost ship doesn't turn into a MacGuffin. Even if the pacing is still on the slow side, this is a show that probably works better as story arcs. At least the battle with the Serenity forces is over. The action scenes lose their edge when the technobabble drowns out the tactics, and we were kind of heading in that direction. I'm still not liking the presence of the loli oujosama, but she doesn't appear to be the cliched bossy overbearing type so it's more tolerable.

Chiaki's curtsy was the absolute best thing in the episode.

Mouretsu Pirates 10:

WHOAAAAAAA PIRATE CAPTAIN CHIAKI IS THE GREATEST. Why couldn't it be like this every episode?

Well, one thing's certain now, and that would be that something is rotten in the state of Serenity, not the least of which appears to be that Serenity nobility have some kind of dark genetic secret. Based on the PV, we'll finally get some answers as to the nature of this intra-kingdom conflict.

On the point about the princess, in a quality, well-written show like this, even seemingly stereotypical characters aren't, and have depth. :)

As for Chiaki, Pirate Chiaki was pretty cool, but the princess' little sister wasn't fooled, unfortunately...


As for the below reply, apart from the part about Texhnolyze, I don't know if there's even one sentence of this post which I could agree with at all, which is why I took so long to decide if I wanted to actually reply or not...

Originally Posted by Thoraxes

The content in episodes 2-5 only existed as flashbacks in the source material, and was not stretched out this long at all. In fact, I would say adapting the flashbacks was ineffective, and probably shoul've been kept in the way it was originally done. There's a lot better ways to do world-building in a visual medium.

That part was expanded? Well then, they did a great job in expanding on it, and it definitely adds something to the series. Making that part longer was a good idea indeed. :)

(FYI I quit at episode 8 to see if the new arc would do anything for me) I wouldn't really call what the show builds tension. If anything, there's more a lack of tension in the actions they take. They had a good start with Princess Gruier but they completely ruined it by playing her presence off as an intruder as something with no real harm, and someone who was effortlessly trapped.

That's not true at all, until they figured out who she was there was some definite tension there.

The same thing can be said for the space fight. There was never any real danger ever. It had been established that the pirate ships from both girls were waiting and watching, and that the hacking was ineffective. There wasn't a buildup, and there wasn't a release. Any of those moments were rather flat. I think as an LN it's great, but it definitely does not translate well to anime at all.

Which part are you talking about? The cruise with the girls, before she moved to the Bentenmaru? They were certainly in danger. You're either misremembering, intentionally ignoring stuff because you don't like the show, or something else, but while they weren't in real danger most of the time, in the final episode of that arc, they absolutely were in real danger, and the rest of the girls reacted appropriately once they relealized it -- up to that point they'd thought it wasn't anything that could actually be harmful, but once the other ship started shooting all of them except for Marika and Chiaki got scared... if one of those shots had hit them, as it certainly could, they'd have been in a lot of trouble.

Marika, of course, calmly figured out what to do and won the fight, but there was definite danger. The buildup from the initial cyber-attack to the final battle were done very well, as the tension slowly built...

If you're talking about something on the Bentenmaru, what you're saying there would make even less sense, of course.

Now Texhnolyze is a great example of a balance of world-building, tension, release, and great pacing. A lot of the world is explained as the show goes on through the character interactions and actions, and rarely did the show ever stop to read you a manual on what's going on. You see what each faction stands for through their actions, you understand the technology through the rehab and its use, and you get a grasp for the world because the characters traverse through it and let the imagery explain everything while their own interactions take a front-seat, managing to present and progress simultaneously.

This is all true, but while its style is different, Space Pirates also does a good job of making a slow pace work brilliantly. But yeah, with Texhnolyze at least you're right.

It doesn't make for captivating anime though. Where as in the novels you can have as much time as you want, and let a lot of the world building happen through the reader's interpretations, an anime has the advantage of... well, being an anime. If there's one thing I could say about the show is that it fails to make any use of the advantages it has now being in a primarily visual medium. There's lots about worlds you can explain through imagery, but the show falls flat when it comes to using that effectively to convey any kind of plot at all.

There have been plenty of moments in the show which make good use of the visual medium, though -- Marika's first spacewalk and the scene that follows (one of my favorite parts of the eps 2-5 arc), for instance, or more recently, the tense, creaky journey through the space storms and rival fleet threats in ep. 11. The show has great visuals when it wants to, or when they have the budget for it or something. It is often slower and character-focused, but it's almost all done very well, so that's not a problem at all.

I don't know how good the novels are though, I haven't read them. Oh, and as for my complaints about the show, as I've said before I don't like the blatantly anime element of her of course working at a maid cafe (classy-style one, sure, but still a maid cafe), and that Marika's a somewhat generic protagonist. Also, while I and everyone else have often compared it to Star Trek, it is slower than Star Trek, and much more serial as opposed to episodic. I think the style works great almost all of the time, but it is a difference.

I think something i've been watching recently that does this effectively is Martian Successor Nadesico. They have the mechs, gravity-beam canon, computer AI, the Nadesico itself, and the daily tech used by the crew. All of it is effortlessly explained across the entirety of the show (i'm on episode 22 now); gives a solid amount of technobabble explaining the mechanics and theory of the weapons, ships, mechs and planetary habitation; establishes world/galactic relations and cultural phenomena in the present day society; and even presents a large cast of characters, their motives, their feelings, and the relationships between all of them on the ship. All of this is so effortlessly done and moves at an incredible pace for the amount of content in there, and show doesn't suffer in any way for it while delivering an experience with everything you love about Moretsu Pirates while significantly advancing tons and tons of these elements in the show.

Nadesico makes the cast compelling, the technology compelling, the galactic relations compelling, and overall just integrate everything so well through visual and spoken presentation.

I watched about half of Nadesico years ago, and thought it was alright to good, but not incredibly great, and obviously not quite interesting enough to stick with and finish... maybe I'll go back sometime, I'm not sure. The two series are very different, though -- that's a harem action sci-fi show, while this is something quite different from that, classier and with a better plot and without Nadesico's definite tonal dissonance (or harem elements and generic action/mecha focus). I'm not much of a mecha fan, but love scifi shows like Star Trek, so I think it's fantastic that Bodacious Space Pirates is a much more Star Trek-ish sci-fi show, instead of yet another probably boring mecha series (not talking about Nadesico in specific there, just generally).

They don't explain the buildup of her particular ability and attitude other than that her mother and father were pirates. There's no explanation for why she suddenly knows what she does, and is more subservient than her subordinates other than that there's a space pirate textbook that she's required to study. They have yet to really establish why she's even needed on the ship other than that they needed a blood related person to inhabit the captain title. The ship can run perfectly fine without her, and honestly it's yet been proven why she's more capable than the far-more capable people around her.

On the note of my issues with the show, I do find the fact that the ship requires a child of teh captain to be captain to be one of its problems, yes. Classic Carribean pirate captains were very definitely not things to be inherited; indeed, it was usually an elected office. And yet here while otherwise they take the style from that era, randomly it's made inherited. I do find that kind of stupid.

As for her ability, though, she clearly is a very good tactical thinker, which is why it's not just nepotism -- she has the ability to be captain. She clearly inherited her parents' skill at captaining, and it's shown from the first episode that she's a good spaceflight tactician as well. She is clearly better at it than any of her crew members. Less experienced, but with more upward potential. She doesn't just suddenly learn anything, either -- she knows the basics of space flight from the beginning, thanks to her Yacht Club, and learns the rest through study. I mean, she's not doing badly in school now for no reason, obviously she's putting her focus into learning how to be a captain now. There was that training episode with Chiaki, too.

Her relationship with her mother was never really done in-depth other than her mom is awesome, she obeys her mom, and her mom used to be a pirate. Her grades failing are something they play off lightly too. While it shows that she's paying more attention to pirate studies, it's played off as no real consequence, especially with pirate faculty in the school. Sure, she wants to do both, so she does, without any crazy amount of conviction, and the grades become of no real consequence.

They don't play the grades thing off too lightly, it's been mentioned at length, and times where she tries to study but gets interrupted have happened multiple times too. I'm sure it won't just go away as an issue. It's far too early to say that it has no consequence. I'm sure it will in time.

I can agree that it was interesting to see, but honestly the concept is such a simple one that it really didn't need to be such a heavy focus for three episodes. They literally repeated themselves over and over with each episode. I wouldn't have minded so much if it played a more integral part to space-faring strategies, but electronic warfare and the importance of it has completely been thrown away. Coorie handles it on the ship, and plays it off like it's nothing. There's no more real presence of it, and her abilities of it make any kind of electronic warfare seem like of no real importance.

I just can't agree here. Yes, electronic warfare gets the most prominent role in the 2-5 part, but it still matters some at least, even if she now has someone good at it... and knowing how important it is helps appreciate her skill at it too, I would say.
firehawk12
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(03-21-2012, 08:47 AM)

Originally Posted by Miri

Hey, did you know about this?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...om-other-manga

Just found it while looking her up. She's playing it safe alright, though probably not for the reasons either of us were thinking of. It looks as if Chihayafuru's her first series post-exile.

Yeah, I posted about it this afternoon when I looked her up. She's pretty fucking lucky, considering. :p
Thoraxes
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Another 11

I really needed a breather after this one.

This show never seems to slip and fall, and as a result, never hangs on things for too long. This show won't screw you and really pushes the plot forward instead of down the stairs.

In terms of the content of this episode, I was blown away by what happened, and the ending may mop things up nicely. I have a feeling the ending may cleave the fanbase, which may lead to a lot of backstabbing between all of us, but the anime is gonna be different from the manga, so no need to fight.
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Originally Posted by Thoraxes

Another 11

I really needed a breather after this one.

This show never seems to slip and fall, and as a result, never hangs on things for too long. This show won't screw you and really pushes the plot forward instead of down the stairs.

In terms of the content of this episode, I was blown away by what happened, and the ending may mop things up nicely. I have a feeling the ending may cleave the fanbase, which may lead to a lot of backstabbing between all of us, but the anime is gonna be different from the manga, so no need to fight.

It took me far too long to realize what was going on in this post. Well played.

edit:Mother of god. I thought it stopped after the second paragraph. What have you done.
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Originally Posted by Jexhius

You know, in an unkind world someone might make fun of this post. Luckily we're all cool people, I'm sure.

Am I going to get ostracised for my noobness? :(

i still don't know what my mistake was...
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Originally Posted by Thoraxes

Another 11

I really needed a breather after this one.

This show never seems to slip and fall, and as a result, never hangs on things for too long. This show won't screw you and really pushes the plot forward instead of down the stairs.

In terms of the content of this episode, I was blown away by what happened, and the ending may mop things up nicely. I have a feeling the ending may cleave the fanbase, which may lead to a lot of backstabbing between all of us, but the anime is gonna be different from the manga, so no need to fight.

I'm actually not sure if this post constitutes massive spoilers or not.
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Originally Posted by firehawk12

Yeah, I posted about it this afternoon when I looked her up. She's pretty fucking lucky, considering. :p

She is. You've probably looked up her previous works then too. I just did, and the one that catches my eye is Silver; the series cancelled, while in-progress, because of that debacle. Its synopsis below:

Originally Posted by mangaupdates

During the prefecture tournament competition, in the midst of the cheering in the gymnasium, the scream of Aoba who collapsed echoed through it. Aoba, who was terribly injured who only lived life as an athlete went into despair. In the midst of that, a classmate, Gin, who is a little strange, nominated Aoba as a volleyball member for the ball tournament. “I want to play with you”… is how the two of them met and now, they are discovering the reason why them met and the real love. A sweet and painful, miraculous pure love story

It's like she started Chihayafuru, only realized how similar to Silver~ (exasperated maybe by the residual feelings/perceived connotations held over its cancellation) it was sounding chapters in, and then switched to a story purely sports to avert from it...but doesn't know how to continue but with seemingly infinite bouts of Karuta.
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Originally Posted by frostbyte

Am I going to get ostracised for my noobness? :(

i still don't know what my mistake was...

Think DYRL was shot on 35 mm film so no, it wouldn't be an upscale.
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Flower Declaration of Your Heart 1

Why do they need to include so much dumb fanservice when the background art is so great? This is all the fanservice I need, don't try to distract me with animated girls:

I'm pretty sure I've seen this story before. Madoka sure is the anti-Shinji. I guess the show's main draw is how great it looks. The art and animation are both pretty top-notch. Even the CG elements work. Although it's funny how lazy the character design on the alien dudes is compared to the girls.

Man does that "secret" base's security suck.
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Originally Posted by Articalys

Inexplicably, Recorder and Randsell gets a second season.



Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I'm actually not sure if this post constitutes massive spoilers or not.

[irony]It doesn't help that you pointed out that it may or may not be spoilers.[/irony]
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Pssst, we donít need to agree, but I just like having a discussion/debate cause itís fun and you can always learn something from someone elseís opinions. Also, i'm pretty sure at this point we're watching/watched the show with completely different standards. (and well, everyone has a pretty different definition of enjoyment) (Also, it's definitely a good show, but to me it's not a great show, imo)

Originally Posted by A Black Falcon

As for the below reply, apart from the part about Texhnolyze, I don't know if there's even one sentence of this post which I could agree with at all, which is why I took so long to decide if I wanted to actually reply or not...

That part was expanded? Well then, they did a great job in expanding on it, and it definitely adds something to the series. Making that part longer was a good idea indeed. :)

I disagree but thatís just opinion at this point (and most of our differences are, and thatís totally cool by me, cause you know, half the words we throw around have no real solid application and are shades of grey). You can easily tell what doesnít belong though.

That's not true at all, until they figured out who she was there was some definite tension there.

The introduction of Gruier from being an unknown threat to revealing who she was and that she was no harm (and I went back to watch the end of 7 to the start of 8 and time it) lasted roughly a whole ~3:25. Maybe we have different concepts how of long things should take to build to be appropriate tension, but I donít think that ~3:25 is a long enough duration for me to feel the kind of tension you obviously felt. Even from the start she was trapped/locked herself in, and the bridge already knew she had no explosives or anything to do major damage judging by how fast she answered Marika in response to the threat. In addition to that, at the end of episode 7 they also identified that it was a child with no mechanical or electronic noise. It was never anything of serious consequence to the crewís lives. I can agree that using it as a cliffhanger was effective, but other than that, it was played off quickly, and was establish in that previous episode that they had nothing to cause collateral damage to the ship on their person.


Which part are you talking about? The cruise with the girls, before she moved to the Bentenmaru? They were certainly in danger. You're either misremembering, intentionally ignoring stuff because you don't like the show, or something else, but while they weren't in real danger most of the time, in the final episode of that arc, they absolutely were in real danger, and the rest of the girls reacted appropriately once they relealized it -- up to that point they'd thought it wasn't anything that could actually be harmful, but once the other ship started shooting all of them except for Marika and Chiaki got scared... if one of those shots had hit them, as it certainly could, they'd have been in a lot of trouble.

Marika, of course, calmly figured out what to do and won the fight, but there was definite danger. The buildup from the initial cyber-attack to the final battle were done very well, as the tension slowly built...

If you're talking about something on the Bentenmaru, what you're saying there would make even less sense, of course.

Iím not ignoring any of it, I just didnít think Iíd have to write it all out.

For the first one on the cruise; They literally had backup the entire time (because you know, you gotta watch the future inheritorís backs), and once shots started to fly at them, both parent vessels moved in to take care of it quickly. Also, they were in a fortified ex-pirate ship of the original 7 that were/are galactically famous, with all working systems still in tact (I think it was 7, right?). From the way they played up the greatness of the original 7, I highly doubt a couple shots with unassisted firing from an extreme distance wouldíve done enough damage to kill everyone on the ship and ruin it. Not to mention they purposefully threw themselves into danger by avoiding calling the responsible authorities right away when they knew something could be up. We knew the electronic attacks wouldnít work before they even started (as far as electronic warfare went) because we got a ~2 minute tutorial on how a dummy system works before they made it. We knew right when they discussed electronic warfare against this enemy that anything the enemy would do would be ineffective. They knew/had an inkling and planned for the danger that was gonna be there in advance because of the events around the first tutorial on electronic warfare in the port. All of these revelations and happenings ruin what good they had building up at all.

Also, some of the setup in there was not good. Why do they constantly have Marika make decisions even though sheís not the highest-ranking person on the ship? It seemed kind of forced that they were purposefully trying to hone her ďcaptain sensesĒ the whole arc, which is why I have a problem with the deviation from them just being flashbacks (cause you can totally tell what was forced in).

This is all true, but while its style is different, Space Pirates also does a good job of making a slow pace work brilliantly. But yeah, with Texhnolyze at least you're right.

Agreed (but I think Space Pirates doesnít utilize the medium enough as a storytelling mechanic enough). Thereís so much potential that they havenít used that I canít help but feel the anime inferior to the LNs.


There have been plenty of moments in the show which make good use of the visual medium, though -- Marika's first spacewalk and the scene that follows (one of my favorite parts of the eps 2-5 arc), for instance, or more recently, the tense, creaky journey through the space storms and rival fleet threats in ep. 11. The show has great visuals when it wants to, or when they have the budget for it or something. It is often slower and character-focused, but it's almost all done very well, so that's not a problem at all.

I don't know how good the novels are though, I haven't read them. Oh, and as for my complaints about the show, as I've said before I don't like the blatantly anime element of her of course working at a maid cafe (classy-style one, sure, but still a maid cafe), and that Marika's a somewhat generic protagonist. Also, while I and everyone else have often compared it to Star Trek, it is slower than Star Trek, and much more serial as opposed to episodic. I think the style works great almost all of the time, but it is a difference.

Sure, itís pretty to look at (and yeah, space is cool), but what was the importance of that scene? What purpose did it serve in the arc and what did it supplement to the overall arc itself? What visually was it supposed to convey that writing could not? The point Iím trying to make is that while yes, eyecandy is awesome (and the LNs arenít colored much, so cool here too), the visuals in the show rarely do anything to forward the narrative. It has that advantage being in an anime form, but rarely does it ever use it to do so, and I would totally love it if they could (because of the separation of sound and visuals, you can convey multiple narratives at once, which rarely happens here). The show is rather cross-cut, and I think it can afford to expand it's dimensions way more instead of sticking to one plane the entire time.

I watched about half of Nadesico years ago, and thought it was alright to good, but not incredibly great, and obviously not quite interesting enough to stick with and finish... maybe I'll go back sometime, I'm not sure. The two series are very different, though -- that's a harem action sci-fi show, while this is something quite different from that, classier and with a better plot and without Nadesico's definite tonal dissonance (or harem elements and generic action/mecha focus). I'm not much of a mecha fan, but love scifi shows like Star Trek, so I think it's fantastic that Bodacious Space Pirates is a much more Star Trek-ish sci-fi show, instead of yet another probably boring mecha series (not talking about Nadesico in specific there, just generally).

I only used Nadesico because it has technobabble (which is always introduced rather unobtrusively on the greater flow of the show), spacefaring in a space ship, how the crew deals with relatively grey issues, foreign worlds, world building, a bridge and crew (each with a specific specialties, and with order superiority; the captain being at the top), and well, the sci-fi-ness (and because Iím almost done with it). Nadesicoís delivery of a lot of these elements is really subtle most of the time, and is usually covered up by action, hijinks, etc., but the underlying themes in each episode are always really interesting (once you realize that theyíre totally in there I had to do some double-takes just to come to the full realization that yes, that really happened).


On the note of my issues with the show, I do find the fact that the ship requires a child of teh captain to be captain to be one of its problems, yes. Classic Carribean pirate captains were very definitely not things to be inherited; indeed, it was usually an elected office. And yet here while otherwise they take the style from that era, randomly it's made inherited. I do find that kind of stupid.

As for her ability, though, she clearly is a very good tactical thinker, which is why it's not just nepotism -- she has the ability to be captain. She clearly inherited her parents' skill at captaining, and it's shown from the first episode that she's a good spaceflight tactician as well. She is clearly better at it than any of her crew members. Less experienced, but with more upward potential. She doesn't just suddenly learn anything, either -- she knows the basics of space flight from the beginning, thanks to her Yacht Club, and learns the rest through study. I mean, she's not doing badly in school now for no reason, obviously she's putting her focus into learning how to be a captain now. There was that training episode with Chiaki, too.

I can agree with this too, but my only question is, in the club, why isnít she in charge then if she clearly is more superior to her classmates? Why havenít they agreed to let her captain the girls? Saying that captaining ability is genetic is a little bit of a stretch for me, because captaining isnít just be one singular ability; itís something that incorporates many abilities simultaneously. Maybe they couldíve said from a young age her mom did X and Y, or that when she was growing up she always had an interest in A and B, or would always do C and D. I just would prefer something a bit more convincing for her skills other than itís just genetic. Hell, I would even be happy if they said that her mother showed her pirate movies when she was growing up; just anything to show why she would be interested and decent at pirating.


They don't play the grades thing off too lightly, it's been mentioned at length, and times where she tries to study but gets interrupted have happened multiple times too. I'm sure it won't just go away as an issue. It's far too early to say that it has no consequence. I'm sure it will in time.

Weíll have yet to see about the grades. I mean, she has such a long grace period to make an excursion so why not let her focus on grades and only plan an excursion when necessary and when sheís more in control of her grades? For all the forward-planning they seem to do and for all the time they have between the required excursion periods, why donít they make use of it more? Surely they can plan a little smarter ahead of time to deal with this issue instead of ignoring the importance.

I just can't agree here. Yes, electronic warfare gets the most prominent role in the 2-5 part, but it still matters some at least, even if she now has someone good at it... and knowing how important it is helps appreciate her skill at it too, I would say.

While it helps her appreciate the skill, they never really show it anymore. To me anyways, It kinda felt like a waste of all that good material because it doesnít have any focus anymore even though itís still necessary.



tl;dr: Make Chiaki the protagonist, keep the ED; itís awesome (and i'm buying it), tension doesnít only mean one thing with no flexibility, source material is almost always better, I don't understand claiming a show to be the greatest show of the season almost every episode without looking at any of the faults critically can make something the best (it's the same reason why my derivative enjoyment from Lagrange is high but I can't rank it up there with the greats at all on a critical levell).
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Master Milk
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Cajun is a non-believer!

Shun him!
RurouniZel
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ro-passes-away

RIP Noboru Ishiguro. AnimŤ lost a great man today. :-/
Articalys
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In other, less sad news from when we were all away, new art and a title for whatever that new Hanasaku Iroha project is. Probably an OVA or something similar.
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Originally Posted by RurouniZel

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ro-passes-away

RIP Noboru Ishiguro. AnimŤ lost a great man today. :-/

It's sad, not so long ago I was considering to go to my first convention just to see him. Turns out he died before the event even started.
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Yes. I survived. I don't know how. Probably because I saw it coming.

Cure Peace is the equivalent of taking a field of sugarcane, refining it intro sugar and pouring the whole goddamn thing into your mouth. that's really all that needs to be said.
She is the epitome of a moeblob and a damned great one.
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(03-21-2012, 08:23 PM)
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Oh god, I thought I was going to die without my constant fix of this place...

What's the general impression of Okami-san and Her Seven Companions? I see that it's due to be released soon on BD, and I was considering grabbing it. I never got around to it while it was airing so I really don't know much about it.
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(03-21-2012, 08:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by RurouniZel

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ro-passes-away

RIP Noboru Ishiguro. AnimŤ lost a great man today. :-/

damn. awful news to wake up to :(

Originally Posted by Articalys

In other, less sad news from when we were all away, new art and a title for whatever that new Hanasaku Iroha project is. Probably an OVA or something similar.

definitely looking forward to this
cajunator
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(03-21-2012, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Articalys

In other, less sad news from when we were all away, new art and a title for whatever that new Hanasaku Iroha project is. Probably an OVA or something similar.

Let's celebrate this with the OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xkPLSn7gU0
firehawk12
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(03-21-2012, 08:35 PM)

Originally Posted by cajunator

Let's celebrate this with the OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xkPLSn7gU0

nano.ripe > hanairo.
Regulus Tera
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(03-21-2012, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by cajunator

Let's celebrate this with the OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xkPLSn7gU0

Almost as bad as the Denpa Onna OP. >:(
cajunator
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(03-21-2012, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Almost as AWESOME as the Denpa Onna OP. >:(

you had a typo so I fixed it.
firehawk12
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(03-21-2012, 08:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Almost as bad as the Denpa Onna OP. >:(

Haha.
madp
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(03-21-2012, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Articalys

In other, less sad news from when we were all away, new art and a title for whatever that new Hanasaku Iroha project is. Probably an OVA or something similar.

Blegh, if there's one thing a new HanaIro doesn't need, it's more Kuina.
Steroyd
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(03-21-2012, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZetaEpyon

Oh god, I thought I was going to die without my constant fix of this place...

What's the general impression of Okami-san and Her Seven Companions? I see that it's due to be released soon on BD, and I was considering grabbing it. I never got around to it while it was airing so I really don't know much about it.

It's pretty standard JC Staff averageness, with a narrator that's crap at breaking the fourth wall or being amusing in any form, a tsundere + weakling nerd combo that's been done a billion times by said JC staff and there's even a kugiloli (not main character shockingly enough) that's appeared in an abundance of JC Staff shows and the hair designs are lol.
e_i
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(03-21-2012, 08:54 PM)
Yeah, the second episode Kuttsukiboshi (yuri) is coming on May 12:

NSFW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=tK-DXIun-28#
Ultimadrago
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(03-21-2012, 08:56 PM)
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Fate/Zero 6-9

Cool enough, but needs even more Rider...forever

Fate/Zero 10: Lost in New York

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cosmicblizzard
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(03-21-2012, 08:57 PM)
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Birdy the Mighty: Decode 1-2

Tsutomo complains too much for being able to possess the body of a hot alien chick. I mean yeah, she did kill him and all, but at least they're nice enough to repair his body. Would definitely break up the monotony of a typical boring life, especially when inhabiting someone like Birdy is like a roller coaster every day. Tute seems cool too.

This is going to be fun.
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(03-21-2012, 09:02 PM)
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I'm so happy that people are picking up Birdy. It's one of my pet underrated series that I always champion (though mostly for S2. Keep watching.)
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Originally Posted by Ultimadrago


Fate/Zero 10: Lost in New York

Episode 10 was the worst episode in the show. Worse than the expo dump in 1. Luckily the awesomeness of the next episode makes up for it.
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(03-21-2012, 09:08 PM)
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Fate/Zero 10 wasn't a bad episode - it was quite well-made and well-directed. The problem with it was its positioning, interrupting the main narrative for the adventures of unimportant side characters. It would have worked well as an OVA special.
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(03-21-2012, 09:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by cosmicblizzard

Birdy the Mighty: Decode 1-2

Tsutomo complains too much for being able to possess the body of a hot alien chick. I mean yeah, she did kill him and all, but at least they're nice enough to repair his body. Would definitely break up the monotony of a typical boring life, especially when inhabiting someone like Birdy is like a roller coaster every day. Tute seems cool too.

This is going to be fun.

You're supposed to be watching HeartCatch, not Birdy!
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(03-21-2012, 09:10 PM)
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Finally managed to catch Gundam 00 and other anime on sale yesterday, is the movie necessary?


Originally Posted by Ultimadrago

Fate/Zero 6-9

Cool enough, but needs even more Rider...forever

More Waver, really cool. But Rider with the others always is fun. Actually more Gilgamesh.
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(03-21-2012, 09:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by e_i

Yeah, the second episode Kuttsukiboshi (yuri) is coming on May 12:

NSFW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=tK-DXIun-28#

That is the most low QUALITY animated firehawk I've seen all week. Since it's basically just a schoolgirl lesbian porn OVA, as much should be expected. I DO kind of wonder how the story is though, there's so little good romance out there, let alone yuri-mance...

Edit: Oh wait, that was ANOTHER lame yuri ova I was thinking about. If this is all done by one guy, eh, I can dig it.
Edit2: WITH INCEST NTR NO LESS. Good God, I'm being tempted to watch it to hate myself now...

Also, I seriously need to catch back up with the shows I'm watching. I'd be disappointed in myself, but I was playing BF3 and starting to design a game and writing a screenplay, so I'm good.
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(03-21-2012, 09:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by doomed1

That is the most low QUALITY animated firehawk I've seen all week. Since it's basically just a schoolgirl lesbian porn OVA, as much should be expected. I DO kind of wonder how the story is though, there's so little good romance out there, let alone yuri-mance...

they ntr each other for someones big brother. Or something. It's shit.
Solune
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(03-21-2012, 09:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Almost as bad as the Denpa Onna OP. >:(

I think you meant equally as bad.
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(03-21-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Persona 23

Man, the timing is so out for anyone who hasn't actually already seen this story.

Still

goddaaaaaaaaamn
Envelope
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(03-21-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Solune

I think you meant equally as bad.

I think you meant equally as good.
Ultimadrago
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(03-21-2012, 09:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light

More Waver, really cool. But Rider with the others always is fun. Actually more Gilgamesh.

I'm interested in seeing more Gilgamesh, just to see whether I end up liking the character by the end.
As for now, Poor Man's Excalibuuuuur!

Curious as to how, or if, he will teach ol' boy the joys of "pleasure" and importance of primal self-gratification.


Originally Posted by hosannainexcelsis

Fate/Zero 10 wasn't a bad episode - it was quite well-made and well-directed. The problem with it was its positioning, interrupting the main narrative for the adventures of unimportant side characters. It would have worked well as an OVA special.

Was probably my largest problem with it, also never been a fan of the "curious kid saves the day filler" premise. With only 3 eps left in the season, it was not what I was hoping for. As an OVA, I would have minded it less so, perhaps.
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cajunator
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(03-21-2012, 09:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Envelope

I think you meant equally as good.

They just don't understand greatness Envelope.
They just can't see the light :(
wonzo
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(03-21-2012, 09:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Envelope

they ntr each other for someones big brother. Or something. It's shit.

i was gonna check that out but fuck ntr
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(03-21-2012, 09:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by wonzo

i was gonna check that out but fuck ntr

yeah, they absolutely ruined it.
doomed1
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(03-21-2012, 09:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by wonzo

i was gonna check that out but fuck ntr

Lesbo NTR seems better though. And it looks like they get back together anyway. BTW, NTR can be fun too, just look at School Days. :D
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(03-21-2012, 09:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by doomed1

Lesbo NTR seems better though. And it looks like they get back together anyway. BTW, NTR can be fun too, just look at School Days. :D

I'm fairly certain it ends with NTR, too. And how is lesbo NTR better?
e_i
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(03-21-2012, 09:31 PM)

Originally Posted by doomed1

That is the most low QUALITY animated firehawk I've seen all week. Since it's basically just a schoolgirl lesbian porn OVA, as much should be expected. I DO kind of wonder how the story is though, there's so little good romance out there, let alone yuri-mance...

Edit: Oh wait, that was ANOTHER lame yuri ova I was thinking about. If this is all done by one guy, eh, I can dig it.
Edit2: WITH INCEST NTR NO LESS. Good God, I'm being tempted to watch it to hate myself now...

I'm pretty sure this will have a GOOD END. I think the trailer gave away the ending though.
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(03-21-2012, 09:38 PM)
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Chihayafuru 24: Ugh, Queen and Master are both psychos. The manga and anime don't do the karuta game a favor.
Thoraxes
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(03-21-2012, 09:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by KO Traveling Hobo

It took me far too long to realize what was going on in this post. Well played.

edit:Mother of god. I thought it stopped after the second paragraph. What have you done.

Heh, heh, heh.
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Originally Posted by Envelope

I'm fairly certain it ends with NTR, too. And how is lesbo NTR better?

The second episode? No, that's just the first. The second episode looks like GOOD END is a foregone conclusion.

Also, yuri NTR is better because within social normalizing and hetero NTR, it wrongfully emasculates the male MC on one end, or has the "vulnerable" side (the feminine) betrayed on the other. In this instance, the yuri couple occupies neither of these since they can't really be emasculated (being female) and they're both "vulnerable" as well. There's no strong audience reaction from associating with one side or another. The squick factor in this one isn't necessarily the NTR, I'd say it's the incest.
Cwarrior
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(03-21-2012, 09:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Ultimadrago


Fate/Zero 10: Lost in New York

yep episode 10 is terrible, unbelievably stupid, you would better off skipping it.

next episode 11 is great.
Last edited by Cwarrior; 03-21-2012 at 10:14 PM.
hosannainexcelsis
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(03-21-2012, 09:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by RurouniZel

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ro-passes-away

RIP Noboru Ishiguro. Anime lost a great man today. :-/

I salute him. Many memorable and influential works were created under his direction.

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