[Bootaaay]

Anything involving McMahon/Austin or Rock/Foley was golden. I liked WCW too, but almost entirely for the cruiser-weights. ECW and AJPW were my main loves during the late 90's.

Also, anyone else just love Kaientai? Really wish they would have been utilised better, rather than turned into a comedy act.

Mike Awesome vs. Tanaka was a great ECW feud.

This. Some of the stuff they did was insane, Tanaka took a beating like a boss.

[Toki767]

Also, anyone else just love Kaientai? Really wish they would have been utilised better, rather than turned into a comedy act.

Indeed.

[GillianSeed79]

LOL at WCW lovers. I feel bad for your childhood

I grew up watching WWF from WM1 up to the early RAW era. The WWE attitude era was my least favorite and it got me stop watching WWE all together. WCW in the Monday night wars was so much better IMO. I especially liked the fact you could watch most WCW matches and not have to worry that somone would get DQ'd or the random badass of the month wouldn't run into every major match and do his finisher on everyone in the ring. That's a gross over generalization, but it felt like it was rare you'd actually see a legitimate major match with an actual pinfall or submission in the attitude era.

[Carnby]

I wish I was smart enough to record it all on VHS or something, but I was too young and had no funds.

*Looks at my pile of VHS tapes of WWF ppvs 1996 - 2000. *

[Toki767]

I grew up watching WWF from WM1 up to the early RAW era. The WWE attitude era was my least favorite and it got me stop watching WWE all together. WCW in the Monday night wars was so much better IMO. I especially liked the fact you could watch most WCW matches and not have to worry that somone would get DQ'd or the random badass of the month wouldn't run into every major match and do his finisher on everyone in the ring. That's a gross over generalization, but it felt like it was rare you'd actually see a legitimate major match with an actual pinfall or submission in the attitude era.

It's weird that you described what's wrong with TNA today, which is run by the same people from WCW lol

[Snaku]

- Ready To Rumble (say what you will about Arquette winning the title... that movie is AWESOME)

I was one of the seven people that saw it in theaters, and it was indeed awesome. Still watch the DVD every year or so.

I WILL RULE YOU!

[Dmncnby2k9]

Stone Cold Steve Austin was the man! Was a big fan of Ken Shamrock was well.

[Get'sMad]

Big Shows dads funeral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSh35ryueA

[Tantalus]

Unfortunately the only show I managed to catch during this time was WWF Heat, but around 2002 a friend let me borrow his VHS tape of Wrestlemania 17 and wow. I still go back and watch it every now and then because it's just that good. Probably my favorite PPV ever.


Oh you didn't know?

[Baraka in the White House]

Man, watching anything with Chris Benoit in it is just creepy now. He was pretty fun to watch as he made his way to the top of the billing.

[Sanjuro]

Never saw this. Really is a low point. "Nappy hair, and 'suckas" What the fuck.

I disagree. May have taken it a bit over the top, but it was one of Booker's best feuds in the WWE. Booker was in badass mode.

[upJTboogie]

Heel Stone Cold in 2001 *swoon*

[Suite Pee]

The thread is about the great moments of both and not having a fanboy war?

Hell, I had it with my dad. He'd watch WWF downstairs while I watched WCW in my room.

I seem to remember one specific night where WCW had an event somewhere where there was a pool surrounding the stage area. I think Booker T might have gone in the water. Still couldn't convince my dad WCW was better. Of course I switched quickly during the early Rock/Stone Cold days.

I went to a pay-per-view recently with my dad and brother because I thought I'd enjoy it for the nostalgia factor (I was wrong, it sucked). It was that 4-way cage match they had in Milwaukee.

[Eric Hall]

Big Shows dads funeral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSh35ryueA

Attitude era Big Boss Man was the greatest. See also that time he cooked Al Snow's dog and fed it to him

[Baraka in the White House]

I disagree. May have taken it a bit over the top, but it was one of Booker's best feuds in the WWE. Booker was in badass mode.

On the subject of Booker T, I brushed shoulders with the guy about a week ago at a steakhouse in Houston. He walked right past me before I did a cartoon-style double take.

[Strike]

Best Era. Hasn't been the same since. Most of my favorites getting too old or dead and the WWF/E buying out the ECW and WCW pretty much killed my interest. The last straw for me was the whole "Vince McMahaon is dead" storyline which was cult short by Chis Benoit's real life murder-suicide.

[MrOogieBoogie]

Man, The Rock really was the most electrifying man on the mic.

[Aiii]

Gillberg was great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OknYjUQc0ww

[ratcliffja]

The WCW cruiserweight division in the 90s was absolutely amazing. Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio Jr., Juventud Guerrerra, Psychosis, Ultimo Dragon, Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho, Eddie and Chavo Guerrerro, the seemingly endless supply of Mexican talent... it was probably the most talented wrestling division ever seen. It's a shame that it became so marginalized. Ideally, they would have had the cruiserweight title as an occasional main event. That is one thing that TNA actually did right, at least before Russo arrived. TNA's X-Division acted as an alternative to the heavyweight division and was often featured in the main event of a PPV.

[DeathNote]

The WCW cruiserweight division in the 90s was absolutely amazing. Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio Jr., Juventud Guerrerra, Psychosis, Ultimo Dragon, Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho, Eddie and Chavo Guerrerro, the seemingly endless supply of Mexican talent... it was probably the most talented wrestling division ever seen. It's a shame that it became so marginalized. Ideally, they would have had the cruiserweight title as an occasional main event. That is one thing that TNA actually did right, at least before Russo arrived. TNA's X-Division acted as an alternative to the heavyweight division and was often featured in the main event of a PPV.

It's such a shame. It's what got me interested in wrestling. All the trick moves and air.

Then the stroylines and heavyweight personalities made me a fan of wrestling.

[Aiii]

I'll forever love WCW for bringing Jushin Thunder Liger to the US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7V3OzhTeAo#t=3m30s

[DeathNote]

Hell, I had it with my dad. He'd watch WWF downstairs while I watched WCW in my room. I seem to remember one specific night where WCW had an event somewhere where there was a pool surrounding the stage area. I think Booker T might have gone in the water. Still couldn't convince my dad WCW was better. Of course I switched quickly during the early Rock/Stone Cold days. I went to a pay-per-view recently with my dad and brother because I thought I'd enjoy it for the nostalgia factor (I was wrong, it sucked). It was that 4-way cage match they had in Milwaukee.

I wish I was smart enough to at least record RAW and watch it since they overlapped or whatever.

I think I would catch the last hour of RAW or something and missed a bunch of stuff.

I also think RAW's last hour was after my bedtime, and had to wait until I got a TV in my room.

[NihonTiger90]

Also, anyone else just love Kaientai? Really wish they would have been utilised better, rather than turned into a comedy act.

Considering Taka is still one of my favorites ... Yes. Yes I did.

[Khalifa Jayy]

WcW vs. nWo Revenge and WWF Wrestlemania 2000 will forever be the best wrasslin games ever made. AKI was so good then!

My top 5

Sting
The Rock
Stone Cold
Razor Ramon
HBK

[HarryDemeanor]

Just listen to this pop. You never really hear this these days. Makes me miss the old wrestling crowds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENT6asElNiM

[Lothar]

Uploaded by me years and years ago, the storyline around Survivor Series 1998 that turned both Rock and Mankind into main eventers.

If you believe (wrongly) that Vince Russo is incapable of good writing and the Attitude Era was only successful because it had big names, watch this.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...y-part-1_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...y-part-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...y-part-3_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...y-part-4_sport

Austin video shown at Bad Blood 97. Compare to Cena now.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...blood-97_sport

Stone Cold road to Wrestlemania XIV.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...emania-v_sport

Also uploaded by me, Jericho in WCW compilation. 1-12 parts.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36...wcw-vol-1_news Part 1 here
Get the rest at this link
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/Ninjafish/2

There's some other fun stuff at that link too such as RVD vs Jerry Lynn, RVD vs Sabu, and a Eddie Guerrero as a heel in 2000 compilation.

[kevo_huevo]

looking back as a teenager..

favorite:

trish stratus
sable
sunny
debra
nitro girls
miss hancock/stacy keibler

the rock selling the shit out of the stone cold stunner
dx
jeff jarretts "dont p*** me off" guitar
chris jericho and ralphus
motherfucking LA PARKA aka the chairman of wcw

least favorite:
david fucking arquette

[BigAT]

Truer words have never been spoken. One that I'll never forget is the Montreal screw-job. Even as a kid I knew something was wrong, I kept yelling to my grandpa that they cheated Bret because he was still trying to get out of the sharpshooter. Or that time Shawn Michaels fainted in the ring. To this day my buddy still swears that it was real. Well done job by Shawn.

Check out this movie if you haven't already. It's a great documentary even if you aren't a wrestling fan, but it also documents a lot of the events leading up to and including the Montreal Screwjob.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179218/

[nemss]

The Christian you know today is a zombie. Because Goldberg killed him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P09PXckuHdE

[beelzebozo]

any HBK big event match is one for the books, but HBK in a ladder match against a big greasy cuban is especially my jam.

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

This thread reminds me of my unhealthy man crush on Jeff Hardy and The Rock back in the day..Jericho too lol

[DoctorWho]

Man, The Rock really was the most electrifying man on the mic.

He still is an A-class performer. He needs to pick better roles.

[OnPoint]

All Undertaker all day. Dead man, none of this biker shit.

I miss him being The Phenom, walking the top rope and being an overall lumbering monster.

[DasRaven]

Clearly, the Rock and Jericho. Especially this moment, MFN goosebumps to this day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32OPyEAraU4

[Ithil]

All Undertaker all day. Dead man, none of this biker shit. I miss him being The Phenom, walking the top rope and being an overall lumbering monster.

He's been back as the Phenom since 2004...

He hasn't been Bikertaker since 2003.

[OnPoint]

He's been back as the Phenom since 2004... He hasn't been Bikertaker since 2003.

I stopped watching in like 2002 lol

A friend is having WMania this weekend though, I might stop by and watch

[RBH]

For those interested, here's a list of the "wrestling-related" titles on Netflix right now:

The Almighty Thor - SyFy movie based on the Norse Gods, featuring Kevin Nash playing Thor's father Odin. Andy Kaufman: World Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion - "Culled from the annals of Andy Kaufman -- who defeated a female wrestler on "Saturday Night Live" in 1979 -- this hilarious video chronicles his nationwide road trip taking on lady grapplers, vowing to wed any woman who could beat him." AWA: The Spectacular Legacy of the AWA - WWE documentary on the now defunct American Wrestling Association. The Backyard - Paul Hough's great 2002 documentary on the world of Backyard wrestling, which won a number of film festival awards. Rob Van Dam is featured in the film as well. Batista - I Walk Alone - WWE documentary on former star Batista. Behind Enemy Lines: Colombia - The WWE Studios film starring Ken Anderson/Kennedy. Below The Belt - The 1980 film starring Regina Baff as Rosa Rubinsky, a waitress who enters the world of professional wrestling. The film features the legendary Mildred Burke, playing herself, as Rubinsky's trainer. Beyond the Mat - Barry Blaustein's excellent 1999 documentary looking inside professional wrestling, focusing on Mick Foley, Terry Funk, Jake Roberts, WWF and ECW. Big Money Rustlas - Insane Clown Posse's western film, also featuring JCW's 2 Tough Tony, Sabu, Scott D'Amore, Joe Doering, Kevin Gill and even Todd Bridges. The Big Show: A Giant's Life - WWE's new 59 minute documentary on the former WWF and WCW World champion. Blind Eye - 2006 thriller featuring Roddy Piper in a supporting role. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan - WWE's documentary on the Hall of Fame manager. Bodyslam The Movie - The infamous 1986 comedy starring Dirk Benedict as a manager of a down and out metal band and a down and out tag team (played by Roddy Piper and The Tonga Kid) who merges the two to create a rock and wrestling connection. Captain Lou Albano and The Wild Samoans play the lead heels in the film, which also features cameos from Ric Flair, Bruno Sammartino and others. Breaking the Code: Chris Jericho - WWE's documentary on Jericho's wrestling career. Bret Hart: Wrestling with Shadows - The 1998 documentary on Bret Hart and Montreal. The Bronx Bunny Show - Pretty wacky talk show, including episodes where Chris Jericho and Stacy Keibler are interviewed. Card Subject To Change - Tim Disbrow's 2011 documentary on the world of independent wrestling, featuring Kevin Sullivan, Percy Pringle, Sabu, the late Trent Acid and a number of other talents working for the National Wrestling Superstars in New Jersey. The Chaperone - WWE's Triple H comedy. Dead Tides - Roddy Piper stars in this 1997 crime drama as a boat captain Mick, who falls in live with the wife of a drug lord who tricks him into smuggling drugs. When the DEA finds what he's been doing, he's forced to go undercover. Death Racers - "Four hyped-up teams of contestants compete to win a violent race in this action-packed sci-fi flick. Living in a grim future world in which life is cheap, the racers will do anything to win. Even killing competitors off while pushing their vehicles to go the distance is not against the rules -- and is probably the only way to prevail. Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope of Insane Clown Posse star, along with former WCW star Raven." Degeneration-X: One Last Stand - 2011 WWE DVD release focusing on DX's final run and Shawn Michaels' retirement. Dylan Dog - Kurt Angle appears as a werewolf in this supernatural detective film, based on the comic book. Edge - Decade of Decadence - WWE documentary on former WWE champion. End Game - the 2009 independent thriller starring Kurt Angle as a serial killer and Jenna Morasca as the object of his obsession. Their meeting on this film led to Morasca in TNA. Ferocious Female Freedom Fighters - A 1982 film about a female wrestler wanting to retire, but forced to remain in the ring by her mother to help pay for her brother's surgery. Features an overdubbed dialouge by the infamous Troma Studios. Greatest Cage Matches of All Time - Edited version of WWE's recent DVD release featuring steel cage matches from several different promotions. Greatest Superstars of the 21st Century - WWE's look at the best personalities from the first decade of the 21st Century. Half Past Dead 2 - The 2006 prison riot film starring Bill Goldberg. Hart and Soul - The Hart Family Anthology - WWE's documentary on the Hart family and their legacy. History of the WWE Championship - WWE's look back at the history of their top title. Honor - 2006 film about street gangs featuring Roddy Piper. Hunt to Kill - Steve Austin film. "U.S. Border Patrol agent Jim Rhodes (Austin), a deadly hunter whose only weak spot is his daughter, Kim (Marie Avgeropoulos), is forced to take violent revenge when a group of desperate thieves, led by the wily Banks (Gil Bellows), kidnaps Kim after a robbery. Banks demands that Rhodes lead them on foot through treacherous terrain to freedom across the border, but when he's crossed, Rhodes can't contain his fury." Jefftowne - 1998 documentary about a wrestling fan featuring scene with Hulk Hogan. The John Cena Experience - WWE's documentary followng Cena's career and lifestyle. Knucklehead - WWE Studios film starring Big Show. Legendary - WWE Studios film starring John Cena. Little Hercules 3D - Hulk Hogan as Zeus, the father of Hercules, who goes to live in Los Angeles. Big Show also featured. Luchamania: La Batalla por Mexico: Listed as a 2008 release, Luchamania features a series of matches between Rey Misterio Sr. and Psicosis. MadBull - The 1977 film starring Alex Karas (years before he became Webster's dad on TV) as "Mad Bull" Karkus, a tormented pro wrestler whose personal life has been on the skids since his wife abandoned him because of his controversial career. Yet his interest in love reignites when he meets fellow Greek Christina Sebastiani. Christina's sensitive concern convinces Mad Bull that he can be loved for more than his fame and fortune, but a deranged stalker threatens his newfound peace." Maz Jobrani: Brown and Friendly - Iranian-American comedian does his shtick, including an appearance from The Iron Sheik. Muay-Thai Giant - Former WWE star Nathan Jones as gentle giant Barney Emerald, who's mugged and robbed on a vacation trip to Thailand and ends up being rescued and taken in by two Thai sisters in this comic martial arts saga. One of the sisters, Dokya (Sasisa Jindamanee), is a champion in the art of muay thai kickboxing, which Barney eventually learns and uses -- with the girls' help -- to take revenge on the thugs who robbed him. Mystery Science Theater: Racket Girls - The MST treatment for this female wrestling film, featuring Clara Mortensen, Rita Martinez and Peaches Page, among others. The Mystical Adventures of Billy Owens - Roddy Piper appears as a pawn shop owner in this 2008 family film about a boy who finds a magic wand. Nanny Insanity - Roddy Piper has a role in this 2006 comedy. "Hiring a nanny sounds like the perfect fix for Marsha (Cynthia Preston) and David McMillan (Larry Dorf), who are already saddled with stress and now have a brand-new baby on the way. But when their hired help (Alla Korot) arrives from the Ukraine, she imports a whole new set of problems. Howard Hesseman and Mindy Sterling co-star in this independent comedy based on screenwriter Andrea Malamut's own experiences as a first-time mother." Nature Boy Ric Flair: The Definitive Collection - WWE's look back at Flair's legacy. Ninja's Creed - WWE's Gail Kim stars as an assassin in this action film - "To restore peace to his Himalayan homeland, courageous warrior Adam (Alexander Wraith) must prevent an overpowering female assassin (Kim) from murdering Jan (Lalaine), an average American teenager unaware that she's a princess and heir to Adam's faraway kingdom. Jam-packed with tense shootouts, chases and sword fights, this adrenaline-filled action movie also features Pat Morita and Eric Roberts." OMG! WWE's Top 50 Incidents - 2011 DVD looking at 50 of the craziest moments in company history. Paradise Alley - Sylvester Stallone's wrestling drama set in the 1940s, featuring Terry Funk's phenomenal performance as Frankie the Thumper. Also appearing are Ted DiBiase Sr., Haku, Bob Roop, Dick Murdoch, Dory Funk Jr., Don Leo Jonathan, Don Kernodle, Gene Kiniski, Ray Stevens and yes, Dennis Stamp was even booked for the film. Rey Mysterio - Life of A Masked Man - WWE's 2011 documentary on the former World and WWE champion. Ricky Steamboat - WWE documentary on one of the greatest babyfaces of all time. Rikidozan - This 2004 biopic recounts the story of Rikidozan, a sumo wrestler who can only achieve limited success in Japan because he's half Korean. But when Rikidozan goes to the United States and discovers professional wrestling, he becomes a hero back home. The Rise and Fall of WCW - WWE's documentary on the late, great World Championship Wrestling. Road Warriors - WWE documentary on Hawk and Animal. The Rock: The Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment - WWE DVD release on Dwayne Johnson. Saturday Night Live: Season 10 - featuring episode 16, with Hulk Hogan and Mr. T sharing guesting duties to promote Wrestlemania. Saturday Night Live: Season 25 - featuring The Rock's hosting and appearances by Vince McMahon, Big Show, Mick Foley, and Triple H to promote Wrestlemania 16. Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak & Triumph - WWE look at HBK. Southland Tales - Dwayne Johnson stars as a man suffering from amnesia who may hold a secret in this post-apocolyptic 2006 film. Spy Hard - Leslie Nielsen spy movie spoof featuring cameos from Hulk Hogan and Mr. T. Super Mario Bros. Super Show - Lou Albano stars as Mario in this animated series. Super Mario Bros. Supershow - 80s cartoon series starring Lou Albano as Mario. That's What I Am - WWE Studios' best reviewed film to date, the 60s period drama looks at tolerance. Randy Orton is very good in his supporting role. By far, the most soul to any WWE film and worth checking out. They Live - The classic 1988 John Carpenter film starring Roddy Piper in his breakout role as John Nada, an umemployed construction worker who comes across proof that aliens have subverted our entire global culture. The film features one of all the time greatest fight scenes ever when Piper takes on Keith David's character Frank. Tombstone: The History of The Undertaker - WWE looks at the career of the "Phenom." Triumph and Tragedy of World Class Championship Wrestling - WWE's documentary on The Von Erichs and the legendary World Class promotion in Texas. True Story of Wrestlemania - WWE's excellent two hour documentary on Wrestlemania's birth and history. Twist of Fate - WWE's documentary on Jeff and Matt Hardy. Very Best of WCW Monday Nitro - Edited version of the WWE DVD release looking at Nitro memories, hosted by DDP. Ultimate Macho Man Randy Savage Collection - WWE's Savage compilation, released in 2010. Wrong Side of Town - "After ex-Navy Seal Bobby Kalinowsky (Rob Van Dam) accidentally kills a man who accosted his wife in a club, the slain man's brother puts a $100,000 bounty on his head in this action flick packed with wrestling superstars. With every thug in the city gunning for him, Bobby has to rely on his combat survival training and his old friend Ronnie (Batista) to keep himself and his family alive." The former Viscera also appears as one of the many thugs in RVD's path. You Again - Dwayne Johnson has uncredited cameo as a Flight Marshall in this comedy about former High School Rivals now forced to reunited when their children intend to marry.

[truly101]

Best entrance of the time. Guys should have been the next freebirds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUXBp...eature=related

[Anth0ny]

Just come to the wrasslin thread. We do this every day.

I miss the crowds. When you had a hot crowd, ANYTHING looked good.

[Brinbe]

The Giant off the roof...

And although its been mentioned, I don't think it has been posted yet. ARMBAR!

[Vestal]

Sting beats Flair for his first WCW Title...

The pop there at the end of the match after the pin is freaking RIDICULOUS.. One of the loudest if not the loudest POP I have ever heard..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lkHx8SjmLo

[speedline]

I loved wrestling during the late 80's - early 90's, then I was a very casual fan during the attitude era. Was more interested in videogames and girls. I have to admit though that NWO was an awesome angle, even bigger and better than the Four Horsemen of the 1980's. Had some fun times at a few live events and ppv's. Goldberg could have been as big as Hogan imo.

[revolverjgw]

The Giant off the roof...

Hahaha, I miss WCW, that shit is just so goofy

Also reminds me how much I miss Bobby Heenan. The all-time greatest. I knew he was brilliant even when I was 6 and 90% of his jokes went over my head

[lunarworks]

The Attitude Era. I loved it. It was my weekly "soap opera". I don't remember exactly when I started watching, but I gave up on it all around 2002. It went completely downhill from that point. Cena was like the final nail in the coffin.

But ya, I do kind of miss tuning in every Monday night to see what would happen, and chatting about it on IRC.

[Effect]

The whole WCW with Shane and the ECW invasion stuff while fun for a while is when I started to loss interest though. I started watching less and less as the months went on. Sometimes rarely finishing entire episode. Around the time they were doing the whole Randy Orton the legend killer thing is when I finally stopped watching for good.

[Zeke]

Best entrance of the time. Guys should have been the next freebirds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUXBp...eature=related

WRONG! Goldust ftw!
http://youtu.be/u5O-Qe5KSbo

[Linkhero1]

Stone Cold Surprises Booker T in a supermarket

[McNei1y]

Favorite moments: - Ready To Rumble (say what you will about Arquette winning the title... that movie is AWESOME)

Gillberg was great! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OknYjUQc0ww

you both took my (joke) answers. Read to Rumble is a movie I can watch whenever. I love it.

I always thought the triple tiered cage match was the coolest thing ever but it was pretty ridiculous (and it was also in Ready to Rumble!)

Anyway, Stone Cold being Stone Cold was probably my favorite thing ever during the entire period. Chris Jericho as well in WCW.

[Derrick01]

Stone Cold pretty much got me through that era by himself. I couldn't get enough of that stuff as a kid.

Though undertaker vs mankind in hell in a cell was and probably still is the most brutal thing I've ever watched. I don't know how he didn't break his neck that night.

[Zeke]

Very Best of WCW Monday Nitro - Edited version of the WWE DVD release looking at Nitro memories, hosted by DDP.

This DVD sucked out loud the only match that I remember that didn't suck was the Eddie Guerrero match. He put a great match on and the crowd was dead the entire time. One of the reasons I liked ECW was the fans, they actually had a pulse and appreciated a good match.