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Speevy
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(03-30-2012, 09:24 AM)
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I always wondered if Juventud Guererra could really do that flip DDT thing that was his special in WCW/NWO Revenge.
a secret-boss
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(03-30-2012, 09:32 AM)
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I miss looking at Steph especially when got a boob job
DMczaf
(03-30-2012, 09:34 AM)
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Real Ass Stone Cold is the best Stone Cold. Not that watered down shit that happened later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUS4yN1G0l4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yUds6dSFk

Real Ass.
pappe
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(03-30-2012, 10:19 AM)
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The whole factions thing always make interesting watch

DX.
The 4 Horsemen.
The Nation of Domination.
Hart Foundation.
The NWO.
The Ministry of Darkness.
The Evolution.

Even the lame ass Nexus thing was interesting to watch even though we knew Super Cena would triumph.
Aiii
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(03-30-2012, 10:21 AM)
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You know what was great, the WM20 main event Benoit vs. HHH vs. HBK.

Esp. the celebration with Eddie Guerrero at the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvNlqCTWzcs
Striker
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(03-30-2012, 10:33 AM)
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The Bret-Austin feud was probably my favorite one of all time. Can watch the videos and promos of these two all night.
FStop7
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(03-30-2012, 10:42 AM)
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This was pretty amazing at the time. DDP disguised as La Parka beating Randy Savage during the nWo days. We even get to see Scott Hall being his typical self.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrCu4_er8U
Striker
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(03-30-2012, 11:04 AM)
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A little older than 1995, but Bobby Heenan was so good. Vince was great in his own right for play by play commentating. Nobody has or will likely ever touch Heenan as a color commentator, although I loved Jesse Ventura too.

Mr. Perfect, Macho Man Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair, Razor Ramon at 1992 Survivor Series

Same PPV with Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels, champion versus champion.
Lothar
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(03-30-2012, 11:10 AM)

Originally Posted by DMczaf

Real Ass Stone Cold is the best Stone Cold. Not that watered down shit that happened later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUS4yN1G0l4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yUds6dSFk

Real Ass.

Hell yeah.

Repost from Page 2 in case people missed it. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2n...blood-97_sport
aznpxdd
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(03-30-2012, 11:14 AM)
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Such an awesome period.

I missed most of WCW since I didn't get into wrasslin' until late 90's, the Attitude era pretty much made my elementary - middle school years.

Not to mention 2 of the greatest wrasslin' games came out during this period - Wrestlemania and No Mercy on the N64. Soooo fucking good.
Carnby
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(03-30-2012, 11:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by DMczaf

Real Ass Stone Cold is the best Stone Cold. Not that watered down shit that happened later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUS4yN1G0l4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yUds6dSFk

Real Ass.

These remind me of the DVD Cause Stone Cold Said So. The whole thing is in kayfabe, and hilarious.
DonasaurusRex
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(03-30-2012, 11:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

Is there anybody on the mic better then Rock or Jericho?

Austin, Macho Man *the prototype* and HBK were great, and before he went insane Angle was good, oh its true...its damn true.
Vampire Baseball
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(03-30-2012, 11:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

Choppy Choppy the pee pee

Haha that took me back. I found the vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESwCwUhO1E
Nelo Ice
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(03-30-2012, 12:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

WWF really should've let Jericho keep the title instead of give it back to HHH:

Full 15 min including opening tirade against Steph/HHH - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Su_XnbpDM&hd=1

You don't see a crowd pop at the end like that anymore.

Triple H has ruined many things =(.
G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 12:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nelo Ice

Triple H has ruined many things =(.

Its all about the Game.
Mecha_Infantry
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(03-30-2012, 12:54 PM)
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One of my favourite things back in the day was the way people sold my two favourite moves: The Rock Bottom and the Stone Cold Stunner

This is one of my favourite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...fRPTPnbg#t=20s

But which was the one (I think it was the rock) and they got a stunner, and they flipped into the ropes, even though the stunner was in the middle of the ring lol
Timedog
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(03-30-2012, 01:37 PM)
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Jericho and Ralphus, The "Chairman" of WCW, Disco Inferno + Alex Wright, fake Sting falling from the rafters and then nWo beating up the doll with bats, Buff Bagwell everything all the time, Any time Scott Hall opened his mouth. When nWo kidnapped Ric Flair and took him to some weird field next to the highway and beat him up for around 20 minutes straight (2 commercial breaks broke up the beating) to fill up time on the new 3 hour Nitro.
RPGCrazied
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(03-30-2012, 01:39 PM)
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The best era of wrestling. For some reason I can't watch it anymore. It just doesn't feel the same. Call me old school I guess.
alstein
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(03-30-2012, 01:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by jaekwon15

Because WCW was terrible. Unless you enjoyed seeing every single episode end the same.

WCW didn't become terrible until Sting returned at Stardock and they split up the NWO.

Best WCW though was before 1995- when Vader would find new ways to murder Sting or other poor souls weekly. He was 100 times better then Mark Henry, and I loved watching Mark Henry's Hall of Pain run last year.
Recon
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(03-30-2012, 01:44 PM)
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I miss the old WCW. I stopped watching wrestling a little bit before WCW ended, but man, shit was great to my pre-teen self. NWO/Wolfpac/LWO. Bam bam biggelow coming back. That one mexican guy who's finishing submission was called "Tequila Sunrise". Watching Goldberg decimate everyone. Shit was great, I would pay good money to have a DVD collection of those years. Rey Mysterio getting totally fucked over every week by Eddy Guererro. Man...memories, they keep coming back as I type this, lol. Fuck, the Raven getting super mental and depressed. I need to stop or I will just type out about 3 years of shit.
alstein
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(03-30-2012, 01:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Izick

For anyone who gets misty-eyed and nostalgiac over this stuff, and are curious about current wrestling, don't be. Trust me, besides some good stuff that CM Punk is doing, along with Jericho, and the occasional Ziggler or Daniel Bryan moment, the show is absolute garbage. Same goes for TNA x1000.

Wrestling will never reach the heights of the late 90's and early 00's, because the talent was just all so good, and the WWE have no real competition to push them, so they can push out schlock every Monday night. I watched a while when Punk was making his marquee run, and then after that dissolved, and they fell into this lame Cena/Rock storyline, but I just can't bring myself to watch something so awful, that will eat up 2 hours of my day, without me being entertained for but perhaps, what, 7 minutes out of the whole program? The endings are always the worst. Empty, devoid of feeling, no payoff or controversy even. You can feel it in the stands the crowd even. Everything is cookie-cutter, lackluster, middle-of-the road, saltine cracker flavored, biege slack colored boring.



Fuck boring.

The closest thing to mid-90's WCW I've seen was AAA a couple years ago, where Konnan was running things. La Legion was a pretty good NWO knockoff, and it's Mexico, so violence was allowed.

BTW Konnan was the guy who used Tequila Sunrise, but he can't wrestle at all anymore- his body is shattered. Great talker though.

LA Park/La Parka is still around down there as well, and still awesome. There's also a shitty knockoff La Parka, but no one really cares about him.
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XiaNaphryz
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(03-30-2012, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by GloveSlap

Yeah, this was one of my favorite wrestling moments ever. I was a huge Jericho fan from the moment he turned heel in WCW. I flipped out as much as that crowd did when that 3 count dropped, I was literally jumping up and down in my room cheering.

They should've let Jericho keep the belt til the next PPV at least after that crowd reaction, could've been an amazing leadup run.

Originally Posted by Nelo Ice

Triple H has ruined many things =(.

:(

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Kave_Man
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(03-30-2012, 06:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

Jericho and Ralphus

Oh my god I forgot about Ralphus.

All of Jericho's feuds back in his cruiserweight days were fantastic.

Stinko Malenko, Deano Machino, Roy Mysterio Jr., Ugly Juice. Or even when he'd lose the title then find some sort of loophole to get it right back.

Man I remember at it's peak I use to follow all the big wrestling review sites. I'd watch Raw/Nitro and the next day read the review of the night by the bloggers and just die of laughter.

edit: Actually I remember there was some fatter reviewer that when WWF was winning the Monday night wars he was the only guy who still felt WCW was the better product. He then ended up commentating or being on screen for them in a regular role.
RBH
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(03-30-2012, 07:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by See You Next Wednesday

I watched those two videos back to back a few days. First Brets video, with a 3rd party camera crew documenting what happened & then Shawns video, with the abridged "rebuttal" of what happened.
Vince McMahon & Triple H are complete scumbags who will screw people over in real life & Bret was one of the most honest guys in the business.

If you want to learn even more about the Bret/HBK feud, I would recommend watching this documentary:





Jim Ross conducts a sit-down interview with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels, and they talk about the events leading up to the Montreal Screwjob and the aftermath, among other things. This was just released a few months ago.

You can rent the documentary on iTunes, XBL, PSN, etc, and I think it's definitely worth watching, especially for those who enjoyed watching HBK and Bret in '96-'97.
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FallingEdge
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(03-30-2012, 07:05 PM)
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Buncha marks in this thread.

To say that wrestling today is terrible, is just wrong. While I do agree that mainstream WWE/TNA leaves a lot to be desired, there are more ways then ever to watch indy and Japan wrestling. Both of which are fantastic.
Timedog
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(03-30-2012, 07:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kave_Man

Oh my god I forgot about Ralphus.

All of Jericho's feuds back in his cruiserweight days were fantastic.

Stinko Malenko, Deano Machino, Roy Mysterio Jr., Ugly Juice. Or even when he'd lose the title then find some sort of loophole to get it right back.

Man I remember at it's peak I use to follow all the big wrestling review sites. I'd watch Raw/Nitro and the next day read the review of the night by the bloggers and just die of laughter.

edit: Actually I remember there was some fatter reviewer that when WWF was winning the Monday night wars he was the only guy who still felt WCW was the better product. He then ended up commentating or being on screen for them in a regular role.

Dude, Ralphus was my favorite person on the WCW roster. Also, are you talking about, I think his name was Mark Madden?
nemss
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(03-30-2012, 07:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by FallingEdge

Buncha marks in this thread.

To say that wrestling today is terrible, is just wrong. While I do agree that mainstream WWE/TNA leaves a lot to be desired, there are more ways then ever to watch indy and Japan wrestling. Both of which are fantastic.

Timedog
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(03-30-2012, 07:38 PM)
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What are the best documentaries and shoot interviews for someone who hasn't watched in 10 or so years?

I hear the Jake the Snake one is good.
GQman2121
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(03-30-2012, 07:46 PM)
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Some rivalries that stick out to me in the 90's.

DDP/Johnny B. Bad

DDP/Savage

Sting/Rude

Sting/Vadar

Sting/WCW/NWO

NWO/everyone in WCW

Flair/Perfect

Jericho/Malenko

Hart/Austin

Hart/Perfect

HBK/Hall

HBK/Undertaker

Tazz/Sabu

Tazz/Bam Bam

RVD/Lynn

Tanaka/Awesome

ECW/TNN - This was in the dying year of the company and had a string of strong matches.
G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

What are the best documentaries and shoot interviews for someone who hasn't watched in 10 or so years?

I hear the Jake the Snake one is good.

well damn Timedog I never thought you were a wrestling fan.

There was a legends of wrestling discussion which talked about the nWo, but I forgot where I got the video on youtube. I wasn't done seeing it :(
GQman2121
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(03-30-2012, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

What are the best documentaries and shoot interviews for someone who hasn't watched in 10 or so years?

I hear the Jake the Snake one is good.

Right around the time I stopped following wrestling, Joey Styles cut what seemed to be a shoot interview at the top of the ramp on RAW. It seemed so genuine, and so spot-on with the current state of the "sport", that it couldn't have been scripted. I was shocked that it made the air because he basically took a shit on the company and then called the fans retarded for buying into McManhon's watered down version of wrestling.
G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by GQman2121

Right around the time I stopped following wrestling, Joey Styles cut what seemed to be a shoot interview at the top of the ramp on RAW. It seemed so genuine, and so spot-on with the current state of the "sport", that it couldn't have been scripted. I was shocked that it made the air because he basically took a shit on the company and then called the fans retarded for buying into McManhon's watered down version of wrestling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnmYLW54YI

yeah, I remember that.

CM Punk did a pretty good shoot last year too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g
Timedog
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(03-30-2012, 08:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by G-Fex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnmYLW54YI

yeah, I remember that.

CM Punk did a pretty good shoot last year too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g

MOOOARRRRR I NEED MOOARRRRRRRRRRRRR

I remember Ninja Scooter or somebody kept talking about some shoot interview that was really long and in like 9 parts on youtube but it got taken down before i could see it.
G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

MOOOARRRRR I NEED MOOARRRRRRRRRRRRR

I remember Ninja Scooter or somebody kept talking about some shoot interview that was really long and in like 9 parts on youtube but it got taken down before i could see it.

Oh yeah? Damn.

These are some of the shoots from Cornette I've watched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2PvD_6Yg4 on Chyna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMBlBVHWUO4 on Sable (it's only a preview)
alstein
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(03-30-2012, 08:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

Dude, Ralphus was my favorite person on the WCW roster. Also, are you talking about, I think his name was Mark Madden?

Yeah it was Mark Madden.

I really miss many of these guys, and I don't think it's just nostalgia speaking.
RBH
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(03-30-2012, 08:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

What are the best documentaries and shoot interviews for someone who hasn't watched in 10 or so years?

I hear the Jake the Snake one is good.

Some documentaries I enjoyed:


Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows
Beyond the Mat
Rise and Fall of ECW
WWE Greatest Rivalries: Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels
Jake "The Snake" Roberts: Pick Your Poison
True Story of Wrestlemania
Breaking The Code: Behind The Walls of Chris Jericho
Stone Cold Steve Austin: The Bottom Line on the Most Popular Superstar of All Time
Rise and Fall of WCW



Quite a few of them are on Netflix right now as well:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...9&postcount=87
Effect
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(03-30-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by G-Fex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnmYLW54YI

yeah, I remember that.

CM Punk did a pretty good shoot last year too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g

Wow. Didn't know Styles did that and they allowed it to air. Was this done to signal a change in how they were doing announcing? Actually calling matches again? I assume there were actual complaints about the whole pro wrestling vs sports entertainment change.
Vega
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(03-30-2012, 08:44 PM)
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I'll just leave this here...

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Best Diva ever? Best Diva ever.
The Main Event
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(03-30-2012, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by revolverjgw



Everything with these guys

And now they're practically all dead

Being Canadian, the Canada vs USA angle is what made me got into a wrestling in the first place. The storylines became so personal that it was pretty hard not to get hooked.

My best friends weren't into wrestling anymore at the time (they pretty much stopped around when the Ultimate Warrior quit). Had to convince them to watch it again since it was so good. They eventually did, especially during the Stone Cold/Rising Rocky Maivia era.
sf2fanatic
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(03-30-2012, 09:11 PM)
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Owen Hart has to be in the top 5 for heels IMO
LakeEarth
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(03-30-2012, 09:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vega

Best Diva ever? Best Diva ever.

I still give that to Trish Stratus. No offense to Miss Hancock over there.
zchen
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(03-30-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by FallingEdge

Buncha marks in this thread.

To say that wrestling today is terrible, is just wrong. While I do agree that mainstream WWE/TNA leaves a lot to be desired, there are more ways then ever to watch indy and Japan wrestling. Both of which are fantastic.

Curious to know Which japanese wrestlers and feds are worth watching now ?I haven't been following Japanese wrestling too much since mid 2000s (Around when Kojima defeasted Tenzan in that Triple Crown vs IWGP title match). I thought 90s AJPW Heavyweight matches and NJPW jr. heavyweight matches were much superior than what I was getting in the early-mid 2000s....I still watch Kawada Vs Misawa June 1994, The 95 AJPW champions carnaval, Kawada/Taue vs Misawa/Kobashi, Akiyama/Misawa vs Kawada/Taue etc


*checks wikipedia.....

Akiyama won the triple crown?????!
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MPW
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(03-30-2012, 09:23 PM)
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Too Cool and Rikishi Dance - Royal Rumble 2000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaq2ECaE-hg

aww yeah!
Bootaaay
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(03-30-2012, 09:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by zchen

Curious to know Which japanese wrestlers and feds are worth watching now ?I haven't been following Japanese wrestling too much since mid 2000s. I thought 90s AJPW Heavyweight matches and NJPW jr. heavyweight matches were much superior than what I was getting in the early-mid 2000s....I still watch Kawada Vs Misawa June 1994, The 95 AJPW champions carnaval, Kawada/Taue vs Misawa/Kobashi, Akiyama/Kobashi vs Kawada/Taue etc

NJPW and AJPW are still the best to watch today - AJPW took a turn for the worse after Misawa left and took half the roster to form NOAH, but while NOAH is not in good health today, AJPW has really improved a ton this past year or two, with guys like Suwama, Shuji Kondo, Takao Omori, Jun Akiyama, Kenny Omega, Hiroshi Yamato, etc, putting on some great matches. NJPW is doing well also and still the biggest company in Japan, although puroresu as a whole is down in popularity. Guys like Shinsuke Nakamura, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Tetsuya Naito, MVP, Minoru Suzuki, Prince Devitt are some of the best to keep an eye out for in NJPW.

If you're looking to watch some online, I've got a bunch of shows up on DailyMotion; http://www.dailymotion.com/playlists/user/SenorLARIATO - I'd definitely recommend the 03/20 AJPW show, which was one of the best puro shows in years from top to bottom.

Originally Posted by zchen

Akiyama won the triple crown?????!

Yeah, and just had an awesome match against Mutoh. I'm loving his title run and the role he's playing as the returning AJPW veteran, now representing rival promotion NOAH.
blind51de
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(03-30-2012, 09:31 PM)
RVD and Jerry Lynn

Simply the best long-term feud, so much talent between the two of them.

I think their last match (that I saw) was on Heat when they'd both started out in WWF, it supposedly got twenty minutes cut out of it for broadcast.
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G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 09:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by blind51de

RVD and Jerry Lynn

Simply the best long-term feud, so much talent between the two of them.

I think their last match was on Heat when they'd both started out in WWF, it supposedly got twenty minutes cut out of it for broadcast.

Believe it or not man, they've still got that feud going in TNA now.
blind51de
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(03-30-2012, 09:34 PM)

Originally Posted by G-Fex

Believe it or not man, they've still got that feud going in TNA now.

I don't doubt it. But I lost my heart for wrestling a long, long time ago.
The Felo
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(03-30-2012, 09:35 PM)
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I remember watching this match live on RAW, and my God was it awesome. You just don't get matches/reactions like these anymore:

10 Man Tag-Team Match
The Rock/Cactus Jack/Too Cool vs. Chris Benoit/Saturn/Dean Malenko/X-Pac/Triple H

Classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-koj9Uwdr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaEH...feature=relmfu
G-Fex
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(03-30-2012, 09:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by blind51de

I don't doubt it. But I lost my heart for wrestling a long, long time ago.

I understand completely, that's what I've got DVD's recently, to keep the memories alive.

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