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ViewtifulJC
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(04-07-2012, 06:29 PM)
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I still think explaining the Red and Blue seem kinda silly. It's like explaining Pong or something.

"The two bars are rival nation defenders trying desperately to prevent the Infinity Bomb from destroying their land"
Natiko
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(04-07-2012, 06:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

The magazine scans were always going to come out the day after the cover debuted, that almost always happens. We can't talk about the story in detail, because it is GI's exclusive. I will say that some of the things that "invested, emotional" players are "raising eyebrows slightly at" are being very misinterpreted ("random" weapon spawns for example) but we will be able to clarify some of those things in due time.

Some of the other features, abilities, are also being discussed with no context (not your guys' fault, obviously) and frankly, a video of TS would probably allay many of the especially hysterical reactions, but we're not there yet.

We haven't seen a single reaction we didn't expect (apart from the Dax love story) and we will clarify a lot of this stuff 100% in the coming weeks and months. SOME of the things in here won't be properly understood outside of a holistic experience (modes, progress, fictional setting, etc) but I am going to say one thing and leave it at that:

It feels like Halo, it does NOT feel or act like the other game(s) it's being compared to. Again, without playing it, you can't be blamed for jumping to certain conclusions.

I don't think that many people are worried that it won't feel like Halo, I think it's more that a lot of the stuff we heard about sounds like it will do nothing but bastardize our enjoyment in spite of the core mechanics. Hopefully we're all worried about nothing and the game is rainbows and sunshine. Also hoping that whatever exclusivity is holding you back from clarifying things further doesn't last this entire month, though I'm guessing that's exactly the case.
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(04-07-2012, 06:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plywood

So any demo in the schedule?

I'll admit I am somewhat hyped for this mode. I'm really wondering how far they'll take it.

I sure hope it's pretty far. Despite Firefight's utter lack of updates, being able to play it online at any given (extremely drunk) time is a huge incentive for me. I sincerely hope it is received well enough by the community that it gets lots of post-launch love.
Deputy Moonman
(04-07-2012, 06:32 PM)
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Well I need to get some sleep. I've stayed up this whole time lol. long live halo
senador
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(04-07-2012, 06:32 PM)
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Wow catching up on this thread was a real treat. People dying for scans like its Christmas, bannings, conclusion jumping. Good stuff. I understand why people are upset, I myself am disappointed until clarification comes, it's just hilarious to see some of it. Everything we have is out of context and the words of GI not so much 343, and we all know how great game journalists are. ;)

OWV's statement is what I expected and I'll be excited to learn more. I don't really feel damage control needs to be done though as the game is still a ways out, we don't know much, and things are still changing. What if some of it is as simple to explain as instant respawn is in social playlists only, or only up to level 15, or it's just in right now for testing in development?


Halo is dead. Lolz
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CyReN
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(04-07-2012, 06:33 PM)
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Thanks for posting Frankie.

Stinkles
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(04-07-2012, 06:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by mastrbiggy

Well Forerunner vision basically is a UAV in COD. It lets you see players without actually having to see them.

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.
Overdoziz
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(04-07-2012, 06:35 PM)

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

What reticule shapes do we unlock at Inheritor?
HigherLevel
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(04-07-2012, 06:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheOddOne

He was a designer on Killzone 2 and lead designer on Killzone 3. He has a great resume I feel.

That is debatable. lol
TheOddOne
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(04-07-2012, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by HigherLevel

That is debatable. lol

Well yeah, something something opinion something.
MrBig
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(04-07-2012, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

Halo 4 features a wall hack in matchmaking confirmed
CyReN
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(04-07-2012, 06:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

If you can state, can we have classic halo for competitive use like weapon spawns and spawn times etc to use in customs/playlists? Would calm a lot of people going off on MLG right now and lower pitchforks<3
Plywood
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(04-07-2012, 06:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

So BK vision?

Overdoziz
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(04-07-2012, 06:38 PM)

Originally Posted by CyReN

If you can state, can we have classic halo for competitive use like weapon spawns and spawn times etc to use in customs/playlists? Would calm a lot of people going off on MLG right now and lower pitchforks<3

Customs server list please.
feel
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(04-07-2012, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

The magazine scans were always going to come out the day after the cover debuted, that almost always happens. We can't talk about the story in detail, because it is GI's exclusive. I will say that some of the things that "invested, emotional" players are "raising eyebrows slightly at" are being very misinterpreted ("random" weapon spawns for example) but we will be able to clarify some of those things in due time.

Some of the other features, abilities, are also being discussed with no context (not your guys' fault, obviously) and frankly, a video of TS would probably allay many of the especially hysterical reactions, but we're not there yet.

We haven't seen a single reaction we didn't expect (apart from the Dax love story) and we will clarify a lot of this stuff 100% in the coming weeks and months. SOME of the things in here won't be properly understood outside of a holistic experience (modes, progress, fictional setting, etc) but I am going to say one thing and leave it at that:

It feels like Halo, it does NOT feel or act like the other game(s) it's being compared to. Again, without playing it, you can't be blamed for jumping to certain conclusions.

Cool thanks. Can't wait to learn more, hopefully crazy shit like jetpacks and xray are only in some special playlists or something.

And how didn't you expect Dax to say something like that?
TS x Massacre
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(04-07-2012, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

Interesting..
Homeboyd
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(04-07-2012, 06:41 PM)
I missed the Dax thing apparently...
erpg
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(04-07-2012, 06:41 PM)
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That something else is probably Last Stand.


Hehe.
RebornYeti
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(04-07-2012, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Not really. As will become clear. I imagine a competitive player with good situational awareness would try it once and eschew it for something else.

Just gonna go ahead and guess that it reveals the position of the person using Forerunner Vision as well. The person using it will be visible to all players through walls and on radar.

If it's something of that extent, I wouldn't mind it.
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TheOddOne
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(04-07-2012, 06:41 PM)
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Dax wants 343 to release a triple X spoof of Halo 4.
PsychoRaven
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(04-07-2012, 06:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

The magazine scans were always going to come out the day after the cover debuted, that almost always happens. We can't talk about the story in detail, because it is GI's exclusive. I will say that some of the things that "invested, emotional" players are "raising eyebrows slightly at" are being very misinterpreted ("random" weapon spawns for example) but we will be able to clarify some of those things in due time.

Some of the other features, abilities, are also being discussed with no context (not your guys' fault, obviously) and frankly, a video of TS would probably allay many of the especially hysterical reactions, but we're not there yet.

We haven't seen a single reaction we didn't expect (apart from the Dax love story) and we will clarify a lot of this stuff 100% in the coming weeks and months. SOME of the things in here won't be properly understood outside of a holistic experience (modes, progress, fictional setting, etc) but I am going to say one thing and leave it at that:

It feels like Halo, it does NOT feel or act like the other game(s) it's being compared to. Again, without playing it, you can't be blamed for jumping to certain conclusions.

I really hope so Frankie. I will say this. The story stuff for Single Player does sound interesting as hell. I'll give you guys that. I would suggest though that considering most of our reactions to the multiplayer stuff though that there needs to be a response that isn't vague and isn't PRish. I know you guys may not want to but fairly soon it needs to come too because waiting too long will permanently damage the perception of the game with the fans.
ViewtifulJC
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(04-07-2012, 06:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lyphen

That something else is probably Last Stand.

Martydom, Halo Reach frag grenade on death, nuclear explosion range
Stinkles
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(04-07-2012, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Overdoz1z

What reticule shapes do we unlock at Inheritor?

Mostly hemp-based shapes.
ElzarTheBam
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(04-07-2012, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheOddOne

Dax wants 343 to release a triple X spoof of Halo 4.

I just put x rated halo in google search...WOW.

Elites and Sgt. Johnson in compromising positions.
Homeboyd
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(04-07-2012, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Mostly hemp-based shapes.

How about one of cortana's bewbs?
Holiday
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(04-07-2012, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

It feels like Halo, it does NOT feel or act like the other game(s) it's being compared to. Again, without playing it, you can't be blamed for jumping to certain conclusions.

What in the hell are the parameters of "feeling like Halo?"
Tha Robbertster
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(04-07-2012, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElzarTheBam

I just put x rated halo in google search...WOW.

Elites and Sgt. Johnson in compromising positions.

Welcome to the internet.
TheOddOne
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(04-07-2012, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElzarTheBam

I just put x rated halo in google search...WOW.

Elites and Sgt. Johnson in compromising positions.

op_ivy
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(04-07-2012, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Mostly hemp-based shapes.

lol and with that, halo regains position one on the live charts!
Stinkles
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(04-07-2012, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElzarTheBam

I just put x rated halo in google search...WOW.

Elites and Sgt. Johnson in compromising positions.

I have been trying to forget that particular image for five years. Thanks.
ElzarTheBam
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(04-07-2012, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tha Robbertster

Welcome to the internet.

Yes, unlike you people, my fantasies stay within the realms of reality

Originally Posted by TheOddOne

[IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/106088/ugh-disgusted-o.gif/IMG]

dammit season 5-6, better hurry up and arrive.

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

I have been trying to forget that particular image for five years. Thanks.

Look at all that juice.
ViewtifulJC
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(04-07-2012, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElzarTheBam

I just put x rated halo in google search...WOW.

Elites and Sgt. Johnson in compromising positions.

"This is it, baby. Hold me!"

CANON

Also, why would you give a magazine an exclusive if you knew it was just gonna be misinterpreted and piss people off, and putting you on an embargo that prevents you from doing much clarification?
Poker Face
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(04-07-2012, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Mostly hemp-based shapes.

so excite!!!1

kittens
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(04-07-2012, 06:49 PM)
343 sound like smart people, so as a courtesy, I'll keep my critique short and inarticulate: SP sounds amazing, MP sound dumb.

Can't wait to watch my first MP match and be won over, though. Here's hoping.
PsychoRaven
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(04-07-2012, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

"This is it, baby. Hold me!"

CANON

Also, why would you give a magazine an exclusive if you knew it was just gonna be misinterpreted and piss people off, and putting you on an embargo that prevents you from doing much clarification?

Something Something Bill Gates with whip while dressed like Yogi Bear something something money something something ninjas.
senador
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(04-07-2012, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

"This is it, baby. Hold me!"

CANON

Also, why would you give a magazine an exclusive if you knew it was just gonna be misinterpreted and piss people off, and putting you on an embargo that prevents you from doing much clarification?

Misinterpretations, timelines, etc. They were going to come around to our houses but that didn't work out. ;)
TheOddOne
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(04-07-2012, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

Also, why would you give a magazine an exclusive if you knew it was just gonna be misinterpreted and piss people off, and putting you on an embargo that prevents you from doing much clarification?

Something something game development something.

Things change like the wind bra.
Overdoziz
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(04-07-2012, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

Mostly hemp-based shapes.

Really though, unlocking gameplay affecting elements through ranks is bullshit.
barth
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(04-07-2012, 06:52 PM)
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I have to say that after reading about all of the changes that are done to the multiplayer mode I've decided to rent this game instead of pre-ordering it, but the singleplayer and Spartan Ops bits won me over. So it's the limited (legendary?) edition for me, yet again.

Also I hope we'll see some "context" to the GI article.


BTW. I'm new here, so I would like to say 'Hi' to you all.
TS x Massacre
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(04-07-2012, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by barth

I have to say that after reading about all of the changes that are done to the multiplayer mode I've decided to rent this game instead of pre-ordering it, but the singleplayer and Spartan Ops bits won me over. So it's the limited (legendary?) edition for me, yet again.

Also I hope we'll see some "context" to the GI article.


BTW. I'm new here, so I would like to say 'Hi' to you all.

Hey Barth, you picked one hell of a time to join up. hahaha
Woorloog
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(04-07-2012, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Overdoz1z

Really though, unlocking gameplay affecting elements through ranks is bullshit.

In competitive games, yes. In Co-op ones, like ME3 multiplayer, those are fine.
feel
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(04-07-2012, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Holiday Cagney

What in the hell are the parameters of "feeling like Halo?"




Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

I have been trying to forget that particular image for five years. Thanks.

Have you searched for the Elite on Elite stuff? Some good shit out there.
CyReN
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(04-07-2012, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Overdoz1z

Really though, unlocking gameplay affecting elements through ranks is bullshit.

If there are "ranks". Just levels now:/

Just say Ranks, customization to classic halo if wanted, good br/dmr, good maps" and I'll stfu until Winter 2012.
TS x Massacre
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(04-07-2012, 06:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by CyReN

If there are "ranks". Just levels now:/

Just say Ranks, customization to classic halo if wanted, good br/dmr, good maps" and I'll stfu until Winter 2012.

Ditto, if there's not a real skill ranking system somewhere in the game, my goodness, I dont wanna see the end result.
senador
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(04-07-2012, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by kittens

343 sound like smart people, so as a courtesy, I'll keep my critique short and inarticulate: SP sounds amazing, MP sound dumb.

Can't wait to watch my first MP match and be won over, though. Here's hoping.

I would guess and hope that you'd be won over before your first match. At some point we'll have some good details and footage. I will guess though that you and many of us will have to adapt or compromise. Halo 4 will not be exactly what most here wanted. I didn't think we'd get that though, and no one really agrees on what "that" is anyway.
GhaleonEB
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(04-07-2012, 06:57 PM)
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So, I need to ask a totally off-topic question.

We just got an iPad (specifically, an iPad 2). Naturally, the first order of business is Angry Birds; the kids have been begging for it for ages. Thing is, this is my first Apple product of any kind ever, so it's a whole new tech ecosystem to learn, and I am confuse.

My wife downloaded a free version that had ads, but those were driving me insane so I bought the $0.99 version. But that only plays in a tiny window in the middle of the screen; expanding it is hugely ugly. Do I have to buy the $3.99 version to get a decent visual quality on iPad? And if so why the hell was this tiny version even visible on the app store to me?

Originally Posted by Holiday Cagney

What in the hell are the parameters of "feeling like Halo?"

RebornYeti
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(04-07-2012, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

So, I need to ask a totally off-topic question.

We just got an iPad (specifically, an iPad 2). Naturally, the first order of business is Angry Birds; the kids have been begging for it for ages. Thing is, this is my first Apple product of any kind ever, so it's a whole new tech ecosystem to learn, and I am confuse.

My wife downloaded a free version that had ads, but those were driving me insane so I bought the $0.99 version. But that only plays in a tiny window in the middle of the screen; expanding it is hugely ugly. Do I have to buy the $3.99 version to get a decent visual quality on iPad? And if so why the hell was this tiny version even visible on the app store to me?

Yeah, you need the $3.99 version for it to look good on the iPad. And yeah, it's kinda lame.
Overdoziz
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(04-07-2012, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by CyReN

If there are "ranks". Just levels now:/

Just say Ranks, customization to classic halo if wanted, good br/dmr, good maps" and I'll stfu until Winter 2012.

"Visible ranks are sooo 2007"
TS x Massacre
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(04-07-2012, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB



Me just being cynical...

What wasn't shown after this image was that the red player instantly respawned by mashing X and killed the blue player before his shields got to regenerate. *Troll face*
Homeboyd
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(04-07-2012, 07:00 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

So, I need to ask a totally off-topic question.

We just got an iPad (specifically, an iPad 2). Naturally, the first order of business is Angry Birds; the kids have been begging for it for ages. Thing is, this is my first Apple product of any kind ever, so it's a whole new tech ecosystem to learn, and I am confuse.

My wife downloaded a free version that had ads, but those were driving me insane so I bought the $0.99 version. But that only plays in a tiny window in the middle of the screen; expanding it is hugely ugly. Do I have to buy the $3.99 version to get a decent visual quality on iPad? And if so why the hell was this tiny version even visible on the app store to me?



[IMG]http://www.abload.de/img/gif3bqadk.gif[IMG]

Yeah, you can buy the iphone version of games on the ipad (which is what you got originally). Usually, getting the ipad version (full screen, HD) means you'll pay $3-5 for something that's $.99 on the iphone.

Edit: To add, the purchase buttons in the store with the "+" next to them are made for ipads.
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