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ViewtifulJC
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(04-09-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Dual-wielding can come back when the Two Magnum combo is back to awesomeness of Halo 2, before the nerf.

John Woo style, baby
Stinkles
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(04-09-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeouterlimits

Not a fan of dual-wielding, hope it stays buried.

no dual wielding.
Rickenslacker
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(04-09-2012, 08:40 PM)
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I'd prefer for weapons to stand on their own merits than needing to be chained along with something else to work. Otherwise you have the stupid scenario where everyone calls the BR overpowered again because the rest of the non-power weapons had to be gimped so that you could use two at once.

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

:D
Tawpgun
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(04-09-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

D3LI43RED
Deadly Cyclone
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(04-09-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

More confirmations. So that leads me to believe you can now hold 3 weapons. Which is why the codpiece had disappeared.
Ryaaan14
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(04-09-2012, 08:42 PM)
Dual weilding was bad but lulzy. Armor abilities are bad and not lulzy.

:_\
Latvian Hitman
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(04-09-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by monsterfracas

Ah, ok.
Lol yeah, I don't use warthogs often. Covenant vehicles are better IMO.

I hope they find a nice compromise between the H3 hog and the Reach hog for Halo 4. I know it was a bit overpowered in 3, (and I admittedly whored the thing on a regular basis)- but they went a little overboard with trying to fix that in Reach. I had a go-cart as a kid that I would ride into battle before I'd hop into that thing. Little orange flag and all.
Tashi
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(04-09-2012, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by CyReN

thanks.

Everyone RT! - https://twitter.com/#!/TheHaloCounci...32755476627456

ps: Frankie and Ellis can get their vengeance and have a tweet storm the opposite way;)

That's fuckin teaaaaamwooorrrrrrk
heckfu
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(04-09-2012, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ryaaan14

Dual weilding was bad but lulzy. Armor abilities are bad and not lulzy.

:_

Bad? Apparently not everyone got a hold of dual wielding plasma rifles.
CyReN
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(04-09-2012, 08:44 PM)
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This clip sums up after hearing about the GameInformer article then Frankie and Ellis posting tidbits.

ps: didn't mind dual wielding personally. I'll live.
Ryaaan14
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(04-09-2012, 08:45 PM)

Originally Posted by heckfu

Bad? Apparently not everyone got a hold of dual wielding plasma rifles.

My man. B_)
Plywood
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(04-09-2012, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Overdoz1z

Better than people camping around corners and at lifts with shotgun and sword with sprint.
There are some nice lines of sight for the Sniper but nothing too make it too powerful and the Rockets are usually out of play fairly quickly especially compared to the Shotgun and Sword who both have enough ammo to kill about a dozen people.

Well personally I rarely have those problems myself seeing as I usually get the power weapons before the enemy team does.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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(04-09-2012, 08:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Triple wielding confirmed. It's why Chief has a new cod piece

Edit: Beaten. :(
Steelyuhas
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(04-09-2012, 08:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

Same here. Never seemed to balance well.

Not to mention with Sprint being a base trait (it is a base trait in Halo 4 right?) we may be running out of ways to easily map all the buttons on the controller.

It is.

I'm guessing there will be a new default control scheme with sprint on the left stick click.

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Gud.
GhaleonEB
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(04-09-2012, 08:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

<3
squidhands
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(04-09-2012, 08:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

You could not have a more perfect avatar for anything that you say. :-)
Franklinator
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(04-09-2012, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone

More confirmations. So that leads me to believe you can now hold 3 weapons. Which is why the codpiece had disappeared.

But why hold 3 weapons when you can...quadruple-wield
ViewtifulJC
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(04-09-2012, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

feel
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(04-09-2012, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

You just chime in on the most random things..

What's the FOV of the game? (please don't answer, thanks in advance)
Overdoziz
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(04-09-2012, 08:48 PM)

Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Tashi wielding?
Arnie
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(04-09-2012, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.




Not even if we've unlocked the Akimbo perk?
ElzarTheBam
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(04-09-2012, 08:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Myyke

Hobnobbing with the people of power already eh? Sounds like you're on the way to becoming a good lawyer!

Hobnobbing is such a strong word, I prefer to use the word digestive.
heckfu
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(04-09-2012, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arnie




Not even if we've unlocked the Akimbo perk?

I remember watching that game and the commentators kept playing it lol
ViewtifulJC
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(04-09-2012, 08:55 PM)
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That gif is basically HaloGAF's opinion on Halo 4 the past couple days. GI reveal was painful, but the soothing sexy voice of Frankie means the hype is still alive.
JonCha
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(04-09-2012, 08:56 PM)
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No SMG and Plasma Rifle?
Falagard
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(04-09-2012, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Bam!, Megaton out of nowhere.
Captain Blood
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(04-09-2012, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Trasher

How's DotA treating you?

I am excited to check it out. I will have to watch some videos and stuff to get an idea of what the hell I am suppose to do but it should be fun. I want to finish ME3 before diving into it though.
Woorloog
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(04-09-2012, 09:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Can't say i'm happy with this. I liked the concept a lot... but i understand the decision, neither Halo 2 or 3 did dual wielding well really and Reach's sandbox was improved a bit as DW was left out (but we know that sandbox ended up being one step forward, one step back due to other decisions...). Consider adding dual wielding to Halo 5/6 campaign and very least, campaign and MP sandbox don't have to be the same always.
Falagard
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(04-09-2012, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Woorloog

Can't say i'm happy with this. I liked the concept a lot... but i understand the decision, neither Halo 2 or 3 did dual wielding well really and Reach's sandbox was improved a bit as DW was left out (but we know that sandbox ended up being one step forward, one step back due to other decisions...). Consider adding dual wielding to Halo 5/6 campaign and very least, campaign and MP sandbox don't have to be the same always.

Yeah, I was one of the few people on HaloGAF who thought dual wielding was fun.

I can understand removing it since it is hard to balance dual wieldable weapons. I liked the bullet hose that was the SMG mixed with the Plasma rifle in Halo 2.
Fuchsdh
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(04-09-2012, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Captain Blood

I am excited to check it out. I will have to watch some videos and stuff to get an idea of what the hell I am suppose to do but it should be fun. I want to finish ME3 before diving into it though.

You will be crushed, mercilessly. Again and again.

DotA has a fairly steep learning curve and a playerbase that absolutely hates newbs. I'm not sure if I'd survive playing DotA 2 after 2+ years without playing it regularly in WCIII.
CyReN
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(04-09-2012, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tashi0106

That's fuckin teaaaaamwooorrrrrrk

It's Killa KC birthday, awkward lol.
Plywood
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(04-09-2012, 09:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arnie

This is an incredible .gif.
Woorloog
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(04-09-2012, 09:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Falagard

Yeah, I was one of the few people on HaloGAF who thought dual wielding was fun.

I can understand removing it since it is hard to balance dual wieldable weapons. I liked the bullet hose that was the SMG mixed with the Plasma rifle in Halo 2.

Yeah, comboing weapons was fun but the balancing was atrocious and most of the combos were useless and in general the feature was too CQB-centric. Let us dual wield a scoped pistol plus SMG, this would give you tools for both CQB and mid-range fighting, you wouldn't be doing that well either but allows great flexibility.

I hope that someday 343i manages to figure out how to make dual wielding work with core Halo gameplay without issues, a true addition.

EDIT ah well, at least MechWarrior Online comes this year, i can pseudo-dual wield in it (dual arm mounted Gauss Rifles FTW).
Last edited by Woorloog; 04-09-2012 at 09:14 PM.
The Librarian
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(04-09-2012, 09:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

Kuroyume
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(04-09-2012, 09:14 PM)
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Could Frank or Ellis confirm that Evade is dead too? Frank put Armor Lock to rest earlier.
lybertyboy
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(04-09-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kuroyume

Could Frank or Ellis confirm that Evade is dead too? Frank put Armor Lock to rest earlier.

If we keep up this pace we'll start running out of crumbs.
Steelyuhas
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(04-09-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kuroyume

Could Frank or Ellis confirm that Evade is dead too? Frank put Armor Lock to rest earlier.

Well it was "Elite Only" (LOL) in Reach, so you'd think it would be gone without Elites in Halo 4 MP.
Poker Face
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(04-09-2012, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice

no dual wielding.

there was something special about dual wielding the halo 2 pistol and the SMG...oh well.

high five for double post
Tashi
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(04-09-2012, 09:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by CyReN

It's Killa KC birthday, awkward lol.

Lol too bad it's fuckin Monday, time to get to work hahahaha

Also, did anyone really expect dual wielding? Lol I would be shocked as fuck it Frankie said it was in.
Trey
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(04-09-2012, 09:26 PM)

Originally Posted by lybertyboy

If we keep up this pace we'll start running out of crumbs.

Totally expecting evade to be toned down and made into a base trait ability.
Mayyhem
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(04-09-2012, 09:27 PM)
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Frankie's avatar is from Oldboy, no? Its been so long since I seen it.
CyReN
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(04-09-2012, 09:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by lybertyboy

If we keep up this pace we'll start running out of crumbs.

but we've only had dinner rolls of info so far, when is a giant fresh baked bread loaf coming?

<3
Navidson REC
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(04-09-2012, 09:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Falagard

Bam!, Megaton out of nowhere.

Wasn't this confirmed earlier? I was so certain of this.

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

You know what wasn't broken in Reach? The Shotgun. I thought it had a great range and power, a real close-range power-weapon.

This! I really, really enjoy using the shotgun in Reach. Especially compared to Halo 3's which required you to get a bit too close for comfort for any sort of effectiveness.
Tashi
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(04-09-2012, 09:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Overdoz1z

Tashi wielding?

Lol just saw this now, fuck you hahaha

I find it pretty hilarious that so many people in here were ripping 343, claiming Halo 4 is fucked. And now, little by little, Frankie and David are winning hearts back lol.

I still haven't scoped out the leak, I'm gonna wait until I buy the magazine. Also, gotta listen to the podcast and see some gameplay before I start forming my opinion. There's just so little to go on.
The Librarian
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(04-09-2012, 09:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mayyhem

Frankie's avatar is from Oldboy, no? Its been so long since I seen it.

Correct.
EdibleExplosives
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(04-09-2012, 09:30 PM)
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I actually kinda liked dual-wielding, but I only ever really used it when I was fucking about in custom games. Great news about armor-lock though.
Falagard
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(04-09-2012, 09:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Navidson REC

Wasn't this confirmed earlier? I was so certain of this.

Not as far as I know.
The Antitype
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(04-09-2012, 09:34 PM)
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All the talk about Halo 4 inspired me to jump back into Halo Reach after a long hiatus playing BF3 and GoW3.

Damn I missed this game. I know there are people here that dislike where Bungie took the game in terms of feature-set and balance, but I love it.

The ONLY change I would make is to have Bungie sit down in a room and play BF3 with high-quality headphones, so they could get a sense of what real, meaty, loud weapon sounds can add to a shooter.

But yeah, I love me some Reach. I'll hold it up as the best Halo MP to date, regardless of the flack I take. :D
Overdoziz
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(04-09-2012, 09:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Tashi0106

I find it pretty hilarious that so many people in here were ripping 343, claiming Halo 4 is fucked. And now, little by little, Frankie and David are winning hearts back lol.

Can't wait until they tell us Sprint isn't in, AAs are pick-ups, loadouts are gone and unlocks are only cosmetic. That day will be a glorious one.
Until that day I'm not excited about Halo 4's MP.

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