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HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

It is. The movie clearly benefited from it.

Oh please. I'm sick to death of this stereotype that the only time people can be creative is when they are high.

I get enough of that from my family (and I don't do drugs).
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(04-16-2012, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

Oh please. I'm sick to death of this stereotype that the only time people can be creative is when they are high.

I get enough of that from my family (and I don't do drugs).

It was a joke. Chill dude. Have a toke.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

It was a joke. Chill dude. Have a toke.

I told you I say no to drugs.
shagg_187
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(04-16-2012, 02:27 AM)
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So I decided to see the trailer after watching the movie. Holy shit, they gave away the entire movie, didn't they?!

Either that or the fact that I've already seen the movie that I can jot things down. That's not the whole point though. The fact that they show the "twist" in the trailer is fucking stupid. Why would they do that? Couldn't have they kept it simple and horror-ish?
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(04-16-2012, 02:47 AM)
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I just got back from the film, and I absolutely adored it. I did have one question, however: Was there ever an explanation given as to why Marty's pot helped him evade the dulling agents that were pumped into the scenario?
FrenchMovieTheme
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(04-16-2012, 02:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

So I decided to see the trailer after watching the movie. Holy shit, they gave away the entire movie, didn't they?!

Either that or the fact that I've already seen the movie that I can jot things down. That's not the whole point though. The fact that they show the "twist" in the trailer is fucking stupid. Why would they do that? Couldn't have they kept it simple and horror-ish?

what twist did they give away in the trailer? that there were people at the controls of this whole little incident? that isn't the twist
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(04-16-2012, 03:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by shrimpjive

I just got back from the film, and I absolutely adored it. I did have one question, however: Was there ever an explanation given as to why Marty's pot helped him evade the dulling agents that were pumped into the scenario?

I went to a screener and there was a Q&A with the actor that played Marty he said that since it was his "secret secret stash", they were not able to find it to put the dulling agents in it.And that weed was so powerful that it counteracted the dulling agents.
Dan
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(04-16-2012, 03:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

what twist did they give away in the trailer? that there were people at the controls of this whole little incident? that isn't the twist

There isn't a twist. Not sure why people keep saying there is. There are just some basic components of the premise that are somewhat obscured in the marketing.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 03:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

what twist did they give away in the trailer? that there were people at the controls of this whole little incident? that isn't the twist

There is no twist.

The Twist is one of the horror tropes they were deconstructing.
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(04-16-2012, 03:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3kuSaS

I went to a screener and there was a Q&A with the actor that played Marty he said that since it was his "secret secret stash", they were not able to find it to put the dulling agents in it.And that weed was so powerful that it counteracted the dulling agents.

Oh, cool, thanks for the info.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 03:07 AM)
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There are way too many moments in this film that are my favorite, so I can't say anything about Marty. Because everything in that film was my favorite.
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(04-16-2012, 03:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

So I decided to see the trailer after watching the movie. Holy shit, they gave away the entire movie, didn't they?!

Either that or the fact that I've already seen the movie that I can jot things down. That's not the whole point though. The fact that they show the "twist" in the trailer is fucking stupid. Why would they do that? Couldn't have they kept it simple and horror-ish?

The only thing the trailers spoil is that Marty survives beyond his apparent death. The fact that there are people pulling strings behind the scenes isn't a twist; it's the premise of the film, and it's revealed within the film's first 15 minutes.

I think if you had seen the movie and the trailer in the opposite order, you'd be pleasantly surprised by how little the trailer gave away.

If anything, the twist is that it's a dark comedy, not a horror movie. The marketing certainly pulled one over on me.
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FrenchMovieTheme
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(04-16-2012, 03:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dan

There isn't a twist. Not sure why people keep saying there is. There are just some basic components of the premise that are somewhat obscured in the marketing.

yeah, there is a twist. initially the movie presents itself as a "reality tv" type thing.... almost like a running man/hunger games type thing. but it turns into them having to appease old gods so they don't destroy the earth.

it's not the sixth sense but it is a twist
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(04-16-2012, 03:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by ivysaur

The audience was 57 percent male and 65 percent over the age of 25, and they gave the movie an awful "C" CinemaScore. That score, along with the modest opening, is indicative of the challenges associated with selling satire (which Cabin in the Woods most definitely qualifies as). The title and stock characters (the jock, his girlfriend, the geek, the stoner, and the virgin) are intentionally generic, and from a cursory glance it would appear that the movie isn't even trying to be original. That probably kept the movie from reaching a larger audience, though the group that did show up was predominantly expecting a straightforward horror movie. By delivering something much different, the movie delighted a small group of audience members while generally frustrating those whose expectations were subverted. Moviegoers like to know what they are in for when they go to see a movie, and when it turns out to be something different the movie tends to get punished in exit polling.

Annnd we have the symbolism of the Ancient Gods awakening and "destroying the world" or in this case, "the movie" when things don't go according to plan. The filmmakers were so clever they made a final commentary on the general audience (Gods)--When the Gods aren't appeased, destruction of the franchise/world occurs. Marty and Dana represents the thoughts of those of us in the audience that welcome something new rather than the accepted norm.

Problem is, most people saw things literally and if you do that, the movie might be harder to really enjoy.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 03:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Schwowsers

If anything, the twist is that it's a dark comedy, not a horror movie. The marketing certainly pulled one over on me.

I would argue that it stays true to enough staples of the genre to be horror.
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(04-16-2012, 03:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

I would argue that it stays true to enough staples of the genre to be horror.

It's a monster movie, dammit!!! Let me enjoy that it's a monster movie with scary and funny elements without a fucking handycam! :P
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(04-16-2012, 03:52 AM)
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Here's one thing that bugged me about the research facility. The purge system buttons being right in the open, with no key codes/lockdown in place in case something went wrong. Plus, why would they program the elevators to let the cubes containing the monsters come down to the facility. With that, and no prevention system being in place...I'm left to wonder why they didn't exactly think that through.
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(04-16-2012, 04:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by judhudson

Here's one thing that bugged me about the research facility. The purge system buttons being right in the open, with no key codes/lockdown in place in case something went wrong. Plus, why would they program the elevators to let the cubes containing the monsters come down to the facility. With that, and no prevention system being in place...I'm left to wonder why they didn't exactly think that through.

I've said it before-but yes, while that does seem silly, that is there just to give you a cathartic "hell yes" moment. If they had to break out some kind of manual and read a FAQ on how to do that-it would have grinded the movie down to a grinding halt. Which would you have preferred?
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Varna
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(04-16-2012, 04:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by judhudson

Here's one thing that bugged me about the research facility. The purge system buttons being right in the open, with no key codes/lockdown in place in case something went wrong. Plus, why would they program the elevators to let the cubes containing the monsters come down to the facility. With that, and no prevention system being in place...I'm left to wonder why they didn't exactly think that through.

Yup. That part stuck out to me as well... "It's a movie" is the explanation for it I guess.

The tone is all over the place in this film. I usually hate that kind of thing but it just works in this film. I went in nothing absolutely nothing about the film and I really enjoyed it.
mjc
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(04-16-2012, 04:27 AM)
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I loved this movie!

I kinda want a prequel where the company goes around capturing creatures for use in the scenarios. That'd be interesting.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 04:34 AM)
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A sequel, even if a prequel, is against the point of this film. There's just no way to do it. What would the content be?
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(04-16-2012, 04:38 AM)
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Saw this a second time tonight, and man, it was the polar opposite of the first time. That was an advance deal filled with movie buffs and it was just fun as hell. This one was just a bummer. It entirely went over the heads of just about everyone there, hardly a laugh out of anybody. This was obviously never going to be a huge mainstream hit but I'm surprised that it fell so wholly flat with just about the entire theater.
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(04-16-2012, 04:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by petethepanda

Saw this a second time tonight, and man, it was the polar opposite of the first time. That was an advance deal filled with movie buffs and it was just fun as hell. This one was just a bummer. It entirely went over the heads of just about everyone there, hardly a laugh out of anybody. This was obviously never going to be a huge mainstream hit but I'm surprised that it fell so wholly flat with just about the entire theater.

So you saw it with some wheddonites and again with normal people.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 04:50 AM)
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Yeah, I've never seen a film that has brought forth such an extreme reaction from the audience.

People hated it when I went to see it both times.
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(04-16-2012, 05:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by petethepanda

Saw this a second time tonight, and man, it was the polar opposite of the first time. That was an advance deal filled with movie buffs and it was just fun as hell. This one was just a bummer. It entirely went over the heads of just about everyone there, hardly a laugh out of anybody. This was obviously never going to be a huge mainstream hit but I'm surprised that it fell so wholly flat with just about the entire theater.

When I went to see it, the biggest laugh from the audience was the "I'm still on speakerphone, aren't I?" bit from the creepy fire and brimstone guy. I was consistently laughing throughout most of it and there were some other chuckles but I think a lot of people weren't getting it.

Exiting the theater, the one remark I heard was a guy telling his girlfriend "That was a weird fucking movie." Which I think sums up how the majority of normal, everyday moviegoers will react to it.
Dan
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(04-16-2012, 05:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

yeah, there is a twist. initially the movie presents itself as a "reality tv" type thing.... almost like a running man/hunger games type thing. but it turns into them having to appease old gods so they don't destroy the earth.

it's not the sixth sense but it is a twist

I don't think that's in the movie at all. For starters, the movie opens with images of mythic sacrifice. You have a big, government-style facility, and chatter about how other nations are failing at their operations. That's just in the first 15 minutes. None of it reads reality television. Hell, that's a punchline.

I don't think that reading is based on the film itself. Maybe that was just your impressions and speculations from the marketing.
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(04-16-2012, 05:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dan

I don't think that's in the movie at all. For starters, the movie opens with images of mythic sacrifice. You have a big, government-style facility, and chatter about how other nations are failing at their operations. That's just in the first 15 minutes. None of it reads reality television. Hell, that's a punchline.

I don't think that reading is based on the film itself. Maybe that was just your impressions and speculations from the marketing.

so let me get this straight. the entire movie you knew that they were doing all of this to sacrafice the kids to appease past gods? alright.
Dan
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(04-16-2012, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

A sequel, even if a prequel, is against the point of this film. There's just no way to do it. What would the content be?

Clearly some people want exactly what the movie was satirizing. They just want to see young people tortured and killed.

Which is hilarious.
Dan
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(04-16-2012, 05:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

so let me get this straight. the entire movie you knew that they were doing all of this to sacrafice the kids to appease past gods? alright.

I think the opening titles made the sacrifice element very clear. Now I didn't know exactly for what purpose, but yeah. I don't think the actual movie hid what was happening or what it was about for very long at all.
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(04-16-2012, 05:41 AM)
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Loved this movie. Not what I expected at all going in, but it worked out better that way
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(04-16-2012, 05:44 AM)
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Was a lot of fun.
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(04-16-2012, 05:55 AM)
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I'm wondering something. How would people have reacted if Brad Pitt was the Director or some other AAA Actor.
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(04-16-2012, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

so let me get this straight. the entire movie you knew that they were doing all of this to sacrafice the kids to appease past gods? alright.

When Amy Acker's character says something about the Ancients right before her TV screen is shut off, that's basically when I put it together. In fact, I was putting it together as soon as he pulled the first switch when the "whore" died. I don't think it was that hard to put together if you were paying attention in the slightest.
Margalis
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(04-16-2012, 06:05 AM)
Is there some sort of secret Whedonite law that forces anyone who liked the movie to accuse anyone who didn't like it of "not getting it" or are Whedon fans just all douches?

Not to be too antagonistic (too late I guess) but it's a huge turnoff when fans of a movie act like desperate true believers.
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Jak140
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(04-16-2012, 06:13 AM)
I wouldn't say there is a major twist per say, the blood sacrifice thing is hinted at pretty heavily early on, if not out right stated in the phone call by the creepy gas station man, and if it's not obvious by then, it should be when they flip the switches to make the blood flow into the sacrificial altars. The bigger reveal for me was that the kids actually made it into the facility and unleashed havoc on their tormentors. I loved the movie BTW, it's probably the closest thing we will ever get to a Portal movie. It's essentially Portal crossed with the movie Funny Games.
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(04-16-2012, 06:13 AM)
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just because you had suspicions about where the story was going doesn't mean it isn't a twist. them promoting the movie as "this spring.... 5 youngsters can save the world.... by being sacraficed to elder gods! go see The Cabin in the Woods only in theaters this April!"

it's like me saying "what twist in the sixth sense? i already suspected bruce willis was dead from the beginning!"
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(04-16-2012, 06:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Incendiary

When Amy Acker's character says something about the Ancients right before her TV screen is shut off, that's basically when I put it together. In fact, I was putting it together as soon as he pulled the first switch when the "whore" died. I don't think it was that hard to put together if you were paying attention in the slightest.

That was my only criticism of the movie. Placing that right smack dab in the middle of the film betrayed its pacing/exposition.

Originally Posted by Margalis

Is there some sort of secret Whedonite law that forces anyone who liked the movie to accuse anyone who didn't like it of "not getting it" or are Whedon fans just all douches?

Not to be too antagonistic (too late I guess) but it's a huge turnoff when fans of a movie act like desperate true believers.

Whedonites are one of the worst fandoms. Felicia Day Fans are a subclass of Whedonites.
Dan
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(04-16-2012, 06:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrenchMovieTheme

just because you had suspicions about where the story was going doesn't mean it isn't a twist. them promoting the movie as "this spring.... 5 youngsters can save the world.... by being sacraficed to elder gods! go see The Cabin in the Woods only in theaters this April!"

it's like me saying "what twist in the sixth sense? i already suspected bruce willis was dead from the beginning!"

The Sixth Sense had subtle hints about its twist. There was nothing subtle about The Cabin in the Woods' opening credits or the deliberate and overt dropping of new information about the project every five minutes.

The marketing has nothing to do with it. Just because something isn't seen in the ads and trailers doesn't make it a twist.
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(04-16-2012, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

So I decided to see the trailer after watching the movie. Holy shit, they gave away the entire movie, didn't they?!

Either that or the fact that I've already seen the movie that I can jot things down. That's not the whole point though. The fact that they show the "twist" in the trailer is fucking stupid. Why would they do that? Couldn't have they kept it simple and horror-ish?

when watching the trailer, it doesn't sink in about Marty, because you haven't seen the movie yet. But then when watching the movie, you get to the part where the control room staff are having a party to celebrate, with the girl getting the crap beaten out of her on the monitors and you think 'hang on,' I haven't seen Marty or the lift yet so it deflates things just a little.
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(04-16-2012, 09:49 AM)
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Anyone got a screen shot of that monster list up on the white board?

Also, Here's the best character in the movie hands down.
HP_Wuvcraft
(04-16-2012, 10:42 AM)
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Lies.

The best character was the werewolf, you communist fuck.
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Originally Posted by Demy

Anyone got a screen shot of that monster list up on the white board?

A list was posted a few pages back....
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(04-16-2012, 02:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

Lies.

The best character was the werewolf, you communist fuck.

Clearly the killer robots were the best
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(04-16-2012, 03:36 PM)
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I can't even believe that its up for debate. Blow the conch shell, fucking mermen come out of the lake and spew blood out of their blowholes as they eat people.
echoshifting
(04-16-2012, 04:11 PM)
Went a second time last night with a friend who's a big fan of the genre, and it blew him away. Audience reaction was pretty good, and a decent size for a Sunday night.

This movie is designed from the ground up to be a cult flick and I adore that. I love that there is so much to see you can't possibly take it all in in one or even two viewings, and bits scattered here and there through the first couple acts that won't fully click until you've already been through to the end. The DVD/BR sales for this are going to be ridiculous. I fully expect half a dozen editions over the next decade or so.

Amazing that in a year with so many huge blockbusters, my favorite film of 2012 might just turn out to be Cabin in the Woods. It's hard to imagine anything surpassing it.
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(04-16-2012, 05:03 PM)
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Saw it yesterday how can anyone call it a horror film? Was good but not horror.
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(04-16-2012, 05:33 PM)
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Okay, guys. people call it a horror film because it fits under the very definition of "horror".

A horror film's goal is to bring out negative feelings. Cabin's goal is to make the viewer feel like society is shit, nobody is truly good anymore, and like the viewer is responsible for demanding such arcane and repetitive films before this. And then it mixes in supernatural elements for good measure.

it's horror, people.
Mondriaan
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(04-16-2012, 05:50 PM)

Originally Posted by big ander

it's horror, people.

There's a related argument in the movie that is just as pedantic.

Why zombies are totally different from redneck, pain loving cultist zombies.
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(04-16-2012, 05:54 PM)
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I want the Blu-Ray already LOL

=/

I just wanna re-watch the last act with the elevators and the chaos that ensues over and over, the grin I had from ear to ear of all the shit that came, my god

SO GOOD!
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(04-16-2012, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Margalis

Is there some sort of secret Whedonite law that forces anyone who liked the movie to accuse anyone who didn't like it of "not getting it" or are Whedon fans just all douches?

Maybe just douches but I'm not even a big Whedon fan and I rolled my eyes at some of the comments on Twitter. Just depends on the response. If you come out of that movie saying it's the worst movie you've ever seen, I'm just going to assume you're a fan of Sarah Jessica Parker films and your opinions are invalid. ;)

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