[rvy]

This reminds me of the PES 2011 trailer featuring Messi running and controlling the ball. We all know how that panned out in the end. Given PES' track record since 08 (i.e. worse animations/transitions of any sports game), there is no way in hell that those animations are what we'll see when we play the game.

Yup, here's a .gif for side by side comparison:



I still remember how they claimed that thing was in-game and that players would actually move like that. I was fooled once, doubt I'll be fooled twice by the same nonsense.
I'll try the demo though, maybe the game is actually fun instead of a scriptfest this year.

[Letters]

Typical BS video from them.

Info sounds good, but if all those improvements are just slapped on top of PES2012's terrible gameplay then no thanks.

There needs to be major reworking across the entire thing. Sigh.

And I too would pay ANYTHING for an up to date PES6HD on xbla :(

Don't want to trash the thread but coming from one of the best games of all times (namely Fifa 12). Hmm...

I just don't get it. I must be playing a different FIFA than everyone else in the world.

[rififi]

I have definitely preferred playing FIFA over the past few years, but one thing I find PES always does better than FIFA is the the trophy celebration - granted they have the UEFA license as well.

[MPW]

I have definitely preferred playing FIFA over the past few years, but one thing I find PES always does better than FIFA is the the trophy celebration - granted they have the UEFA license as well.

do they still though?

iirc, signed 4 year contract, so pes

2009
2010
2011
2012

did they renew contract?

[Winnie the Pimp]

I think we should get a kickstarter going for PES6HD on XBLA/PSN or something ;)

bah who am i kidding :(

[RooMHM]

Yup, here's a .gif for side by side comparison: I still remember how they claimed that thing was in-game and that players would actually move like that. I was fooled once, doubt I'll be fooled twice by the same nonsense. I'll try the demo though, maybe the game is actually fun instead of a scriptfest this year.

Tbh Messi and CR7 really move like that. It's just that they're the only player with good animations.

[rvy]

Tbh Messi and CR7 really move like that. It's just that they're the only player with good animations.

The transitions between animations are definitely not like that.

[EuropeOG]

Typical BS video from them. Info sounds good, but if all those improvements are just slapped on top of PES2012's terrible gameplay then no thanks. There needs to be major reworking across the entire thing. Sigh. And I too would pay ANYTHING for an up to date PES6HD on xbla :( I just don't get it. I must be playing a different FIFA than everyone else in the world.

You mean PES6 where you could shoot from anywhere with Adriano and score? Then again, in PES12 people seem to do that with David Villa from the most ridiculous angles.

[Winnie the Pimp]

You mean PES6 where you could shoot from anywhere with Adriano and score? Then again, in PES12 people seem to do that with David Villa from the most ridiculous angles.

While it's true that a couple players like Adriano were indeed overpowered, the general gameplay system itself was 10X better than anything we got today! So i'd rather play a glorious game of soccer and simply pick any teams other than Inter Milan than play current PES versions...

[Curufinwe]

I think Adriano was actually better in PES 5.

I think we should get a kickstarter going for PES6HD on XBLA/PSN or something ;) bah who am i kidding :(

I'd pay for that, especially if it let you save and upload goal replays directly to youtube. This was my last PES 6 goal compilation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9YyNKgWeW8

[Letters]

You mean PES6 where you could shoot from anywhere with Adriano and score? Then again, in PES12 people seem to do that with David Villa from the most ridiculous angles.

Oh yeah I remember that being ridiculous
online. But I'm more of a singleplayer masterleague kind of guy so it's a non issue.

[WoodenLung]

I think we should get a kickstarter going for PES6HD on XBLA/PSN or something ;) bah who am i kidding :(

Did you see Konamis silent hill HD release? Yeah... I doubt we want to see PES6 on PS360, only Konami can actually fuck up old games and make them perform worse on new systems.

[Shining Sunshine]

Yup, here's a .gif for side by side comparison: I still remember how they claimed that thing was in-game and that players would actually move like that. I was fooled once, doubt I'll be fooled twice by the same nonsense. I'll try the demo though, maybe the game is actually fun instead of a scriptfest this year.

How do they move like that when the game doesn't have 360 movement?

Since EA has Messi, it's CR7 vs Messi.

[Thrakier]

I think some of you guys actually have to go back and play the old PES games. I did this and it was eye opening. The PES criticism is way overdone, though the series is certainly stale. Didn't really play it this gen. One of the reasons though is that it's just so god damn time consuming if you do it serious.

[ShellyDeKiller]

I hope this time they fucking release some info for the Wii version for fuck's sake.
Last year they just.... released it. No trailer, no info, nada.

[EuropeOG]

How do they move like that when the game doesn't have 360 movement? Since EA has Messi, it's CR7 vs Messi.

PES has 360 movement.

CR7 will probably win Ballon dOr this year, so a win for PES lol.

[Desaan]

Konami and EA need a love child, or at least some competition.

So sick of the same repackaged crap. They haven't even bothered with most of the player models in FIFA, half the Premier League is full faceless random's, nice job with that licence EA. Konami at least offer the option of editing on all formats unlike the FIFA series which are locked.

Pro Evo lacks the presentation that FIFA does, from a broadcast/commentary standpoint. Gameplay wise it's fairly close, FIFA probably still has the edge thanks to Konami's inability to program the goalkeeper A.I or physics engine. PES is still way too glitchy, but you never know. Maybe this year they will surpries us!lol

[Shining Sunshine]

PES has 360 movement. CR7 will probably win Ballon dOr this year, so a win for PES lol.

Last time I played it, it didn't.

[Winnie the Pimp]

I think Adriano was actually better in PES 5. I'd pay for that, especially if it let you save and upload goal replays directly to youtube. This was my last PES 6 goal compilation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9YyNKgWeW8

amazing, thanks bro, i thoroughly enjoyed this

[EuropeOG]

Last time I played it, it didn't.

I think it pulls towards 8 angles (when sprinting), but it definitely has 360 degree movement, since PES 2011.

[whatsinaname]

Re-introducing old features and bug fixes as new features © 2008-2012 Konami

[Winnie the Pimp]

Re-introducing old features and bug fixes as new features © 2008-2012 Konami

lol yeah, maybe they are slowly getting back to the quality of PES6, and in about 5-6 years we will finally have PES6 HD!!!!

;)

[PaulLFC]

Previews have started going up, Eurogamer's sounds promising:

Indeed, playing PES 2013 for the first time, it's easy to feel lost. But any sense of confusion soon gives way to a sense of wonder as the possibilities enabled by the new systems become apparent, with deft one-twos giving way to driven shots across the box that fly into the top corner, all directed with precision by the player in a fully manual set-up. There's a learning curve, but in giving so much control over to the player there's also the sense of unpredictability that made PES so alluring back in its heyday - the feeling that a goal could emerge from any situation and that, with the right amount of skill and a little luck, anything's possible. This isn't the conservative PES that iterated itself into oblivion for so many years, and nor, right now, does it seem to be one that's hamstrung by minor flaws that blemish its grand philosophy. In fact, PES 2013 comes across as positively daring, its move towards a brand of flair football promising a game that's uniquely intoxicating, and one that means that the series could see out this generation the way it saw out the last.

Full Preview

[MPW]

CVG:

As usual, Konami's presenting its PES 2013 additions in the form of three pillars: Full Control (PES FC), Advanced AI and Player ID. These were mentioned earlier this year in the form of a press release, and we have to admit we weren't exactly blown away. How wrong we were.


Eurogamer:

"Keepers, a constant bugbear of the series, are once again improved, boasting new animations, better responsiveness and generally less fist-gnawing stupidity.

Countering the close control is response defending, an amendment that sees some of the defensive improvements of last year's FIFA make their way to PES. Holding down the tackle button harries an opposition player, holding up the play - while double-tapping the same button sends the player lunging in pursuit of the ball, a challenge that won't necessarily work out, that outcome made more likely by the more advanced close control that's afforded to attacking players."


Multiplayer.it (Italian):

Talking about Player ID: "Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, Robben, Iniesta, Neymar, Xavi, Ribery, Puyol and Terry, even with his famous diving header, were shown in sequence in real movies and gaming. We do not yet know the total number of players who will enjoy this "treatment" but we hope that it's as many as possible."

[Letters]

Reading all the previews up on WENB, I can't help but to get excited for it. It's the same thing every year, fuck me.

[whatsinaname]

No more Seabass!?

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

I am ignoring every single opinion till I play the demo myself.

[Konosuke]

No more Seabass!?

This is the most interesting thing about PES 2013 by far.

[Anastacio]

CVG: As usual, Konami's presenting its PES 2013 additions in the form of three pillars: Full Control (PES FC), Advanced AI and Player ID. These were mentioned earlier this year in the form of a press release, and we have to admit we weren't exactly blown away. How wrong we were. Eurogamer: "Keepers, a constant bugbear of the series, are once again improved, boasting new animations, better responsiveness and generally less fist-gnawing stupidity. Countering the close control is response defending, an amendment that sees some of the defensive improvements of last year's FIFA make their way to PES. Holding down the tackle button harries an opposition player, holding up the play - while double-tapping the same button sends the player lunging in pursuit of the ball, a challenge that won't necessarily work out, that outcome made more likely by the more advanced close control that's afforded to attacking players." Multiplayer.it (Italian): Talking about Player ID: "Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, Robben, Iniesta, Neymar, Xavi, Ribery, Puyol and Terry, even with his famous diving header, were shown in sequence in real movies and gaming. We do not yet know the total number of players who will enjoy this "treatment" but we hope that it's as many as possible."

There's 50 of these "star" players.

Seabass is working on another PES product and it's not the next-generation PES. By the way, Konami want to use the Fox Engine for the next-gen PES.

[Totobeni]

I am ignoring every single opinion till I play the demo myself.

it will most likely go this way..again.

[Letters]

Even though I love the guy for what he created in the past, no Seabass involvement this time is something to be excited about. He has lost his touch in recent times, and different project leads could be just what PES needed to finally be again what the fans want it to be.

[Zep]

New trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=BaR0M9rS-yQ

The new tackling looks pretty good, as well as the (manual) shooting. I've also got to say those are the best player models I've seen in a sports game. Its not just the faces, but the bodies look fully proportioned. Really evident when Ronaldo his shooting.