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Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 02:49 AM)
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Regarding the credits scene:

I had nfi who it was. I'm not a big comic book geek. I assumed it was Galactus for some reason. It looked like some shitty CG doofus in any case.
Meus Renaissance
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(04-25-2012, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Iron Man is still the best Marvel film so far.

I would say

IM > IM2> The Avengers > Thor > Cap > Hulk (Ang Lee) > Incredible Hulk

That's worrying.
Good Job Bob
(04-25-2012, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Iron Man is still the best Marvel film so far. 

I would say 

IM > IM2 (which I still find disappointing, but has some nice moments) > The Avengers > Thor > Cap > Hulk (Ang Lee) > Incredible Hulk

Why do you include Hulk '03? It's not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe..
shira
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(04-25-2012, 02:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr Touchdown

He totally steals a lot of the argument scenes.

Stark we need a plan of attack
I have a plan. Attack!

I have an army
We have a hulk

Is this just whedon dialogue?
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(04-25-2012, 02:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Regarding the credits scene:

I had nfi who it was. I'm not a big comic book geek. I assumed it was Galactus for some reason. It looked like some shitty CG doofus in any case.

Yeah, not one of their better-knowns
maquiladora
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(04-25-2012, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Iron Man is still the best Marvel film so far.

I would say

IM > IM2 (which I still find disappointing, but has some nice moments) > The Avengers > Thor > Cap > Hulk (Ang Lee) > Incredible Hulk

Well at least you thought it was better than Cap. God I hated that film so much.
Big Baybee
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(04-25-2012, 02:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jason Raize '75 - '04

That's worrying.

Literally every other review says the opposite. Take his opinion with a grain of salt. The wait is killing me. TDK levels of hype right now.
Khezu
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(04-25-2012, 02:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jintor

Yeah, not one of their better-knowns

He makes up for it by being fucking amazing!
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 02:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

Literally every other review says the opposite. Take his opinion with a grain of salt. The wait is killing me. TDK levels of hype right now.

Literally every review of THG upon it's release said it was great. You had reviewers calling it the best sci-fi since The Matrix. That always happens.

I only speak in truth bombs. Your heart's expectations are collateral damage.

Also, you should recognize that I don't think IM2 is bad, just disappointing.
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(04-25-2012, 02:59 AM)
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If he doesn't want to hang with DC/Vertigo's Death then I don't give two shits

I miss Amalgram lol
Htown
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Now that I think about it, has anything like the Marvel cinematic universe been tried before?

You know, take a bunch of different characters in different situations, and tell individual stories in separate movies that all take place in the same universe in a consistent way?

I mean there have been things like Alien vs. Predator and Freddy vs. Jason, where they took characters in their own series and put them together in a stunt movie later, but was there anything meant to be coherent from the beginning?

I'm sure there were, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
mjc
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(04-25-2012, 03:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Htown

Now that I think about it, has anything like the Marvel cinematic universe been tried before?

You know, take a bunch of different characters in different situations, and tell individual stories in separate movies that all take place in the same universe in a consistent way?

I mean there have been things like Alien vs. Predator and Freddy vs. Jason, where they took characters in their own series and put them together in a stunt movie later, but was there anything meant to be coherent from the beginning?

I'm sure there were, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Not to this level, I don't think. Expect there to be attempts when this makes Marvel/Disney/Paramount big bucks though.
Big Baybee
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(04-25-2012, 04:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Literally every review of THG upon it's release said it was great. You had reviewers calling it the best sci-fi since The Matrix. That always happens.

I only speak in truth bombs. Your heart's expectations are collateral damage.

Also, you should recognize that I don't think IM2 is bad, just disappointing.

You raved and raved about John Carter, right? And you just stated that Superman Returns was a top tier comic movie. Your tastes just seem to be a bit unique is all. Sorry you didn't like THG. Thought it was an ok movie, myself. Also, you need to watch The Rocketeer. So fucking good.
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(04-25-2012, 04:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by mjc

Not to this level, I don't think. Expect there to be attempts when this makes Marvel/Disney/Paramount big bucks though.

I welcome a Youngblood movie in this fashion.
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(04-25-2012, 04:05 AM)
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John Carter was a fun flick. It felt like an adventure throwback.

I don't know about Superman Returns though. It has it's moments but overall it's just a boring Donner homage.
Big Baybee
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(04-25-2012, 04:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Discotheque

John Carter was a fun flick. It felt like an adventure throwback.

I don't know about Superman Returns though. It has it's moments but overall it's just a boring Donner homage.

Yea, it was decent, but just a forgettable, mostly uninteresting movie. My wife fucking loved it, though. John Carter, that is. SR had that great airplane scene.
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(04-25-2012, 04:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Htown

Now that I think about it, has anything like the Marvel cinematic universe been tried before?

You know, take a bunch of different characters in different situations, and tell individual stories in separate movies that all take place in the same universe in a consistent way?

I mean there have been things like Alien vs. Predator and Freddy vs. Jason, where they took characters in their own series and put them together in a stunt movie later, but was there anything meant to be coherent from the beginning?

I'm sure there were, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Weirdly, the only example that comes to my mind are the Toho monster movies.
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 04:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

Yea, it was decent, but just a forgettable, mostly uninteresting movie. My wife fucking loved it, though. John Carter, that is. SR had that great airplane scene.

That's because John Carter was ace. Still the best movie I've seen so far this year.
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(04-25-2012, 04:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

Yea, it was decent, but just a forgettable, mostly uninteresting movie. My wife fucking loved it, though. John Carter, that is. SR had that great airplane scene.

You're a lucky man.
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(04-25-2012, 04:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

That's because John Carter was ace. Still the best movie I've seen so far this year.



You must be getting paid top-dollars for shilling this movie so hard.

Anyway, 6 hours before I get to see Avengers.
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

Batman Begins
TDK
X2
SM2
Superman ('78)
Superman Returns (Come at me)

At least you have Batman Begins above TDK.
Big Baybee
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(04-25-2012, 04:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

That's because John Carter was ace. Still the best movie I've seen so far this year.

While I do think it was an ok-borderline good movie, I feel it could have been so much better. It just kind of left me with a "meh" feeling. Too bad a sequel won't be made, this property had potential to be huge.
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 04:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

At least you have Batman Begins above TDK.

They're in no particular order, but yes BB is definitely much preferred over TDK over here.
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(04-25-2012, 04:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

At least you have Batman Begins above TDK.

Yeah, but he has SM2 in that list....so....
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(04-25-2012, 04:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

You raved and raved about John Carter, right? And you just stated that Superman Returns was a top tier comic movie. Your tastes just seem to be a bit unique is all. Sorry you didn't like THG. Thought it was an ok movie, myself. Also, you need to watch The Rocketeer. So fucking good.

He also hates Joss Whedon and doesn't seem to have any emotional investment in Marvel's characters. Knowing that, his review of The Avengers was glowing. I'm more hyped than before having read his review.
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(04-25-2012, 04:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tedesco!

Yeah, but he has SM2 in that list....so....

Don't beat around the bush.

It should be higher on his list, right?

Agreed!
brandonh83
(04-25-2012, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

You raved and raved about John Carter, right? And you just stated that Superman Returns was a top tier comic movie. Your tastes just seem to be a bit unique is all. Sorry you didn't like THG.

What's wrong with these opinions? I think they're totally reasonable. I haven't seen John Carter, and while I wouldn't quite go that far about Superman Returns, I still liked it plenty enough, and I thought Hunger Games was highly mediocre.

I don't see how they're unique tastes; just maybe different from what "the internet" or at least movie-GAF at large thinks :p
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 04:43 AM)
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I don't let me anticipation or preconceptions of a film affect my final verdict.

You'll find that I was kind of negative leading up to John Carter's release. I was getting into constant arguments with people trying to tell me Stanton was one of the better directors, whilst I though Nemo was shit and Wall-E, despite it's first half was average due to what followed.

I was also pretty critical of the alien designs.

Then came Expendables first negative impressions right before my screening and I was just hoping it could be something I would enjoy. I ended up enjoying the absolute hell out of the film.

The opposite situation happened on War Horse. Most recently, I was pretty pumped to see what Cameron's team of 300 artists could do to prove what a meticulously post-conversion process could be. The answer I came back with was less than stellar and convinced me to never pay for any converted 3D ever again, no matter how good the conversion is.

People apparently read my expectations leading up to a film's release or my impressions just after and forget the rest and claim me to a be more than biased.
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brandonh83
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

People apparently read my expectations leading up to a film's release or my impressions just after and forget the rest and claim me to a be more than biased.

When I post a raving impression of a film on my Facebook page, people dismiss it and say that I just love everything and have no taste. And then when I post some scathing or even lukewarm opinion about a film, I hate everything.

Really wish they'd come to some kind of consensus.
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Originally Posted by brandonh83

When I post a raving impression of a film on my Facebook page, people dismiss it and say that I just love everything and have no taste. And then when I post some scathing or even lukewarm opinion about a film, I hate everything.

Really wish they'd come to some kind of consensus.

Facebook blows, there's the consensus.
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 05:02 AM)
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Oh BTW, my friend pointed out last night that Silvestri's score for the film sounded like an old Bond score. Bombastic and over the top Bond score.

I didn't really notice.
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(04-25-2012, 05:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

Extended 'Iron Man' TV Spot

SO
MUCH
SWAG

Originally Posted by Khezu

Ironman doing pretty much anything is just a joy to watch.

Agreed. Well done everything across the board. I'm about to pop in UMvC3 just to keep the hype rolling.
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Originally Posted by SpeedingUptoStop

Facebook blows, there's the consensus.

eh, most of my friends on there are incredibly touchy and are just looking to twist my words at every turn. I mean, I agree completely about Facebook in general, don't get me wrong, but in my case at least it's just what people make of it. I've mostly stopped sharing opinions about... well just about anything. If I say anything that is even ever-so-slightly against the norm (which is frequent I might add) someone takes offense to it.

The most memorable moment was about a week ago when I was talking about Mission: Impossible, and someone said "oh crap, you liked Mission: Impossible? Didn't you also like Scream 4? That's too bad, I actually wanted to see M:I" I'm like... well, uhm... I wouldn't call Scream 4 a great movie by any stretch but I found it entertaining for what it was -- I, however, have no fucking idea what that has anything to do with Mission: Impossible but have a nice day?
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(04-25-2012, 05:12 AM)
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So to those who watched it already...

So are the aliens just generic alien race or are they significant in the Marvel universe (I'm not good with the comics)
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I almost clicked that spoiler tag out of pure habit without even thinking about it because of how often people will spoiler tag their clever "punchline" to their post, and after a while you take it for granted and forget that -- every now and then -- there are actual spoilers hidden there!
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Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton

So to those who watched it already...

So are the aliens just generic alien race or are they significant in the Marvel universe (I'm not good with the comics)

I'm not familiar with the comics at all and still have no idea who they are.
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

I'm not familiar with the comics at all and still have no idea who they are.

So no verbal mention of Skrulls or any identification beyond them being an evil alien army?
Scullibundo
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(04-25-2012, 05:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

So no verbal mention of Skrulls or any identification beyond them being an evil alien army?

They mentioned some name once, I believe. It was not Skrulls.
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Oh peeps, 2 more days til it opens here, and 9 til it opens in the USA, no spoilers yet please :*
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(04-25-2012, 05:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

So no verbal mention of Skrulls or any identification beyond them being an evil alien army?

They're the Chitauri
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(04-25-2012, 05:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by cutmeamango

Oh peeps, 2 more days til it opens here, and 9 til it opens in the USA, no spoilers yet please :*

Just don't read them.
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Originally Posted by Big Baybee

Just don't read them.

You sound like my mom and her cakes.
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(04-25-2012, 05:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blader5489

They're the Chitauri

Cool, thanks. One more question for those who have seen the film: Do they properly explain how magnetism discovery/the bracelet connects to the new armor for Iron Man or is it glossed over? Looking for a yes or no.
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(04-25-2012, 06:38 AM)
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Must resist urge to click black boxes...
Escape Goat
(04-25-2012, 06:40 AM)
Sculli is joke character confirmed. John Carter was ace and Superman Returns was a good movie and IM2 better than The Avengers.
Fry
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(04-25-2012, 07:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo

It was fun.

The narrative itself is absolute garbage, but once you realize it is all just an excuse to get these fanboy service (self-service in Whedon's case) scenes on screen, you just sort of roll with it.

And those scenes are where this movie lives. Of course, if you're expecting any serious drama in these scenes, you've come to the wrong movie. Whedon makes no attempt to deviate from his 'let's lighten the mood' mentality, as he is having the characters crack jokes at every single turn.

You don't feel invested in the film in terms of caring about any of the stakes at hand, just as Whedon doesn't really seem invested in the story enough to come up with anything than the most convenient and ridiculous get out of jail free cards to bail out of each narrative conflict.

But like I said, it doesn't matter. You're there to watch these character banter with one another. And it's fun to watch. Like any comedy, I'm not sure how good it will be on rewatch once you know all the jokes, but there is some very satisfying humor and chemistry between the main players - good and bad, without spoiling anything.

The Avengers is Oceans 12 with ILM pumping a whole bunch of CG destruction into the background.

It sometimes loses it's focus and in typical Whedon style, gravitates toward less interesting side characters that are paper thin. There is one part that made me roll my eyes.

Lots of cheese. A lot of the bureau/SHIELD ops dialogue is just bad.

Hulk does absolutely own the film, though without spoiling anything, I will say that I was disappointed that Whedon seemed to contradict our introduction to The Hulk, as if he wasn't sure how to write around him without changing his character.

Action was very decent. I could see Paramount looking to Whedon for the next Transdongers after Bay.

I enjoyed it enough, but probably won't revisit until it hits TV, so that the jokes might hit again.

In the end, it's an ILM showcase with some nice comedy running throughout that doesn't take itself seriously. It's fun, but doesn't come anywhere near the top-tier superhero films.

Almost exactly what I expected. TDKR will be so much better.

bold part: I really hate that in movies.
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(04-25-2012, 07:17 AM)
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I'd rather be laughing because characters are cracking jokes than laughing because Bale can't do a Batman voice to save his life.
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Originally Posted by kunonabi

I'd rather be laughing because characters are cracking jokes than laughing because Bale can't do a Batman voice to save his life.

I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS.
Scullibundo
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Cool, thanks. One more question for those who have seen the film: Do they properly explain how magnetism discovery/the bracelet connects to the new armor for Iron Man or is it glossed over? Looking for a yes or no.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Teh Hamburglar - I only tell you what you already know to be true in your heart.
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Originally Posted by The Outsider

I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-MEsUtXHEE

It sounds so ridiculous it's good

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