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antonz
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(04-27-2012, 12:56 PM)
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Seems Ubi Montpellier is quite busy.

BG&E2, Killer Freaks, Rayman Legends
Aostia
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(04-27-2012, 12:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

It's good to support it for spares/extra players, but that doesn't excuse being able to only support 1 tablet if that is the case.

Instead I think that pushing the new concept of asimetric local multiplayer is a good thing. Plus, Upad it's expensive and forcing people to buy 2/3/4 Upads for local multi should be really annoying; plus Wiimote or Wiimoteplus are already in house.

I think they should push to integrate 2 Upads for some games or game modes. Keeping the concept of internal memory for the pad as for the remote, so I can bring my upad to my friends' house and play with my profile and data.
DXB-KNIGHT
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(04-27-2012, 01:00 PM)
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I feel forcing 4 Upads will be like when Nintendo was forcing 4 GBAs and a 4 cable for 4 swords Adventures in case the controllers are expensive.
Mihael Mello Keehl
(04-27-2012, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lemonte

I love the music and game itself looks amazing.

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nevermind I guess youre feeling it thats all..
Nerfgun
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(04-27-2012, 01:02 PM)
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Game looks great. Really fantastic.

U Pad gameplay, underwhelming. Just didn't look interesting.

NFC stuff inspire gimmick. Although any chance to sell real toys, eh Ubi? Can't blame them too much I guess, may as well use that NFC.
orioto
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(04-27-2012, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mitark

video link to see how this work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfkFg...feature=relmfu


The last one screams "launch porn"
Mr. Pointy
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(04-27-2012, 01:03 PM)
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Bought.
SalsaShark
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(04-27-2012, 01:04 PM)
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im wrapping my mind around imagining how Ezio would look like in this game
IdeaMan
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(04-27-2012, 01:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by AzaK

And I assume they can actually run wirelessly by now......right?

Yup.
mandiller
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(04-27-2012, 01:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

Development unit. Could be for ease of communication, could be because the development version of the hardware is too bulky to actually fit in the form factor that'll be used at retail.

I suspect the cable in the video is a recharge cable and we'll end up having the controller tethered for most of the time. The screen on the controller will use up a lot of power...
jimi_dini
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(04-27-2012, 01:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by RagnarokX

No, it's because of the Gamecube controller ports and memory card slots. They take up space.

If that was the (only) reason, they could just release a separate little box with controller ports + memory card slots that connects to Wii U using an USB cable. In fact they have to do something like that for the downloadable Gamecube-games.
EloquentM
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(04-27-2012, 01:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by mandiller

I suspect the cable in the video is a recharge cable and we'll end up having the controller tethered for most of the time. The screen on the controller will use up a lot of power...

The cable in the video is attached to a dev kit... This is not a trailer meant for commercial eyes. That much is obvious.
Smellycat
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(04-27-2012, 01:09 PM)
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Wow, what a leak lol. Nintendo won't be happy. It is a good thing that it didn't really show a drastic change to the Wii-U, otherwise Nintendo would have been out for some blood. haha

The game looks fantastic though.
IdeaMan
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(04-27-2012, 01:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia

Instead I think that pushing the new concept of asymmetric local multiplayer is a good thing. Plus, Upad it's expensive and forcing people to buy 2/3/4 Upads for local multi should be really annoying; plus Wiimote or Wiimoteplus are already in house.

I think they should push to integrate 2 Upads for some games or game modes. Keeping the concept of internal memory for the pad as for the remote, so I can bring my upad to my friends' house and play with my profile and data.

My personal take on the Ubi video concerning this part: we see the people without the padlet heavily focusing on the guy holding it and smiling, it's a bad message, like "hey, the fun is occurring on the Wii U controller, not with Wii-motes". They need to work harder in regard to that, and show that thanks to a clever asymmetrical gamedesign (which they are capable of), the DRC content is fun, it's a given yes, but it's also the same for the 3 other people playing on the TV with wiimotes.
zerokoolpsx
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(04-27-2012, 01:10 PM)
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Ezio in Rayman Legends?!?!?!?
Foliorum Viridum
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(04-27-2012, 01:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia

Instead I think that pushing the new concept of asimetric local multiplayer is a good thing. Plus, Upad it's expensive and forcing people to buy 2/3/4 Upads for local multi should be really annoying; plus Wiimote or Wiimoteplus are already in house.

I think they should push to integrate 2 Upads for some games or game modes. Keeping the concept of internal memory for the pad as for the remote, so I can bring my upad to my friends' house and play with my profile and data.

Originally Posted by DXB-KNIGHT

I feel forcing 4 Upads will be like when Nintendo was forcing 4 GBAs and a 4 cable for 4 swords Adventures in case the controllers are expensive.

You don't need to FORCE people to buy 4 of them, just give them the option to buy them.
frankie_baby
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(04-27-2012, 01:11 PM)

Originally Posted by jimi_dini

If that was the (only) reason, they could just release a separate little box with controller ports + memory card slots that connects to Wii U using an USB cable. In fact they have to do something like that for the downloadable Gamecube-games.

Unless the downloadable gc gamed are actually ported to wiiu so just use wiiu controls
JoshuaJSlone
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(04-27-2012, 01:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sintoid

So confirmed only one WiiU controller supported? In the video you can see 3 standard controllers and a tablet...

Not necessarily. If one is the likely norm that might be the way Ubisoft prefers to show it off, rather than give the impression people would need multiple for multiplayer.

Originally Posted by Amir0x

You guys didn't even need to add the 'won't uprez anything' part - it's automatically assumed by default that Nintendo will always take the laziest, lowest effort path to implementing features. I just automatically assume worst case and it's almost always right.

Come on, man. The worst case scenario you've imagined is how full BC has worked every single time.
IdeaMan
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(04-27-2012, 01:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smellycat

Wow, what a leak lol. Nintendo won't be happy. It is a good thing that it didn't really show a drastic change to the Wii-U, otherwise Nintendo would have been out for some blood. haha

The game looks fantastic though.

In this day & age, i think this video is making more good than harm for Nintendo, it doesn't really reveal anything new (they talked themselves, months ago, about the NFC feature), can't be considered as a way to measure the hardware capabilities of the system (2D platformer & all), and generate the buzz.
frankie_baby
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(04-27-2012, 01:14 PM)

Originally Posted by Smellycat

Wow, what a leak lol. Nintendo won't be happy. It is a good thing that it didn't really show a drastic change to the Wii-U, otherwise Nintendo would have been out for some blood. haha

The game looks fantastic though.

You assume nintendo didnt plan and/or plan this leak?
UncleSporky
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(04-27-2012, 01:14 PM)

Originally Posted by IdeaMan

My personal take on the Ubi video concerning this part: we see the people without the padlet heavily focusing on the guy holding it and smiling, it's a bad message, like "hey, the fun is occurring on the Wii U controller, not with Wii-motes". They need to work harder in regard to that, and show that thanks to a clever asymmetrical gamedesign (which they are capable of), the DRC content is fun, it's a given yes, but it's also the same for the 3 other people playing on the TV with wiimotes.

Either a stealth-confirm that only one pad is supported...or you just don't know yet. :P
StevePharma
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(04-27-2012, 01:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

You assume nintendo didnt plan and/or plan this leak?

Yeah, it feels too convenient. Especially with the Sony announcements yesterday and next week.
mandiller
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(04-27-2012, 01:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by EloquentM

The cable in the video is attached to a dev kit... This is not a trailer meant for commercial eyes. That much is obvious.

You sure about that? Looked pretty ready for public eyes to me.

It's not like the WiiU controller won't have a recharge cable. That cable looks like what you'd expect.
AceBandage
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(04-27-2012, 01:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by StevePharma

Yeah, it feels too convenient. Especially with the Sony announcements yesterday and next week.

Yeah, Nintendo is going to combat Sony Smash Bros with... Rayman.

More likely, Ubisoft sent this out, and the press leaked it, as they always do.
Blueblur1
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(04-27-2012, 01:16 PM)
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That was kinda cool.
AceBandage
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(04-27-2012, 01:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElTopo

Wouldn't be the first time something regarding Wii U leaks from Ubisoft. Surprised they haven't leaked stuff from the other consoles yet.

They leaked the Vita, actually.
And likely had a hand in leaking the 360 Slim.
frankie_baby
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(04-27-2012, 01:19 PM)

Originally Posted by ElTopo

Wouldn't be the first time Ubisoft leaks something regarding Wii U. Surprised they haven't leaked stuff from the other consoles yet.

Nintendo dont want to leak its own stuff so is using ubisoft to "leak" for publicity
StevePharma
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(04-27-2012, 01:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by AceBandage

Yeah, Nintendo is going to combat Sony Smash Bros with... Rayman.

More likely, Ubisoft sent this out, and the press leaked it, as they always do.

I wasn't saying Nintendo. I meant Ubisoft. ;) The gaming side of the internet is pretty active this week. combined with the new console this is a great exposure window.

Originally Posted by frankie_baby

Nintendo dont want to leak its own stuff so is using ubisoft to "leak" for publicity

Also this if Nintendo intentionally leaked it
Bullza2o
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(04-27-2012, 01:19 PM)
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Oh snap! The very first Wii U in-depth trailer that I saw, and I was blown away. E3 needs to come NOW!
Shig
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(04-27-2012, 01:20 PM)
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I'll be interested to see how well they can make a toy out of a character that has no limbs.
jonno394
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(04-27-2012, 01:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

I think 2 needs to be the minimum. I'll mostly be playing two player, and it will suck if I or my girlfriend need to get stuck with a last gen controller that we've used for years.

It goes against the "fresh" feeling of new technology with a new console. I'd hate to use an Xbox controller with my 360, or a DS2 with my PS3.

It's especially bad when the new controller has such drastically different design/technology.

Because the dualshock has changed so considerably since the psx days......
Cbajd5
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(04-27-2012, 01:22 PM)
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I liked it. The whole thing looks better in motion than in the screenshots, but I still like Origins better.
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Foliorum Viridum
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(04-27-2012, 01:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by jonno394

Because the dualshock has changed so considerably since the psx days......

It's true they're pretty identical, but it's a psychological thing. With a new console you should have a new controller.

Besides, the point is more important when the Wiimote and Wii U tablet are so DRASTICALLY different. It'd be like if the PS3 used the boomerang design and you could only use one when everyone else had to use DS2s.
UncleSporky
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(04-27-2012, 01:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Shig

I'll be interested to see how well they can make a toy out of a character that has no limbs.

Google "rayman figurine"

marc^o^
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(04-27-2012, 01:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

It's true they're pretty identical, but it's a psychological thing. With a new console you should have a new controller.

Besides, the point is more important when the Wiimote and Wii U tablet are so DRASTICALLY different. It'd be like if the PS3 used the boomerang design and you could only use one when everyone else had to use DS2s.

Trying too hard? Trying too hard.
TheExplodingHead
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(04-27-2012, 01:25 PM)
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimi_dini
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(04-27-2012, 01:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

Unless the downloadable gc gamed are actually ported to wiiu so just use wiiu controls

They won't port those, it will be sort of like PS2 classics on PSN. They could of course emulate a gamecube-pad using a Classic Controller Pro and also put saves on the internal memory. But that would seriously suck. First of all, this would mean that gamecube-pads couldn't be used at all and that you would have to buy 4 wiiremotes AND 4 classic controller pros, just because in case you want 4-player multiplayer (for e.g. TimeSplitters 2+Future Perfect). Would suck even more for Wii games that support Gamecube controllers. Also previous saves would get lost and would now be tied to the console, with probably no way to backup them. I seriously hope they won't go that way, otherwise no way in hell I'm buying even 1 game from their downloadable gamecube collection.
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jonno394
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(04-27-2012, 01:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

It's true they're pretty identical, but it's a psychological thing. With a new console you should have a new controller.

Besides, the point is more important when the Wiimote and Wii U tablet are so DRASTICALLY different. It'd be like if the PS3 used the boomerang design and you could only use one when everyone else had to use DS2s.

I agree with the second point you make but i see it doing well with families sitting together taking turns with the tablet etc. I remember when i was younger with only one ones controller. We'd all sit watching each having a go after each other. I envisage the same will ne true with the tablet.
TheGreatMightyPoo
(04-27-2012, 01:29 PM)

Originally Posted by jonno394

I agree with the second point you make but i see it doing well with families sitting together taking turns with the tablet

I think this is the point they are trying to show.

Plus, "Wii U" wouldn't make much sense if there were 4 people playing with the tablet.
Rygar 8 Bit
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(04-27-2012, 01:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shig

I'll be interested to see how well they can make a toy out of a character that has no limbs.

other then the statue posted above i suppose they would just use clear plastic to connect his feet and hands to his torso
Nosgoroth
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(04-27-2012, 01:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by UncleSporky

Google "rayman figurine"

A Rayman figure on a tablet! Wacom confirmed for WiiU?
Foliorum Viridum
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(04-27-2012, 01:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by marc^o^

Trying too hard? Trying too hard.

How am I trying too hard? :\
jimi_dini
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(04-27-2012, 01:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

It goes against the "fresh" feeling of new technology with a new console. I'd hate to use an Xbox controller with my 360, or a DS2 with my PS3.

Can understand that for PS3 DS2, just for the fact that it's wireless. Wiimotes are already wireless. If PS2 DS would have been wireless, you would be missing out on the glorious pseudo motion controls and the uber-bad triggers. So actually almost anyone would use PS2 DS. And if you bought a PS3 on release, your "fresh" feeling would even be missing out on rumble. lol
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FiveMinuteHero
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(04-27-2012, 01:31 PM)
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Anyone else noticed that only one of the player in the Rayman video is playing with the proper Wii U controller (the one with the screen).

Is this sort of a confirmation that Wii U only supports one of these controllers at a time?
TheExplodingHead
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(04-27-2012, 01:31 PM)
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I for one am very happy to see the first real 3rd party WiiU game being revealed is a amazing followup to one of my favorite platformers ever!
Shiggy
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(04-27-2012, 01:32 PM)
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I'm a bit surprised that they didn't add 5-player multiplayer for the Wii U.
SparkTR
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(04-27-2012, 01:32 PM)
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That controller is a behemoth, but I'm excited to see what Nintendo does with it. I hope that Skylanders stuff doesn't become the new face of DLC for the Wii-U.
AceBandage
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(04-27-2012, 01:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by FiveMinuteHero

Anyone else noticed that only one of the player in the Rayman video is playing with the proper Wii U controller (the one with the screen).

Is this sort of a confirmation that Wii U only supports one of these controllers at a time?

It's not really confirmation of anything, since this trailer was never suppose to be seen by us.
However, the Wii U will likely not support more than 2 Tab Controllers at a time regardless.
Foliorum Viridum
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(04-27-2012, 01:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by jimi_dini

Can understand that for PS3 DS2, just for the fact that it's wireless. Wiimotes are already wireless. If PS2 DS would have been wireless, you would be missing out on the glorious pseudo motion controls and the uber-bad triggers. So actually almost anyone would use PS2 DS. And if you bought a PS3 on release, you would even have been missing out on rumble. lol

Yeah that analogy maybe wasn't the best :P But still, look at all the features that the Wii U tablet has over the Wiimote. Anyone stuck with the Wiimote is going to feel like they're not getting the full experience.
UncleSporky
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(04-27-2012, 01:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Foliorum Viridum

Yeah that analogy maybe wasn't the best :P But still, look at all the features that the Wii U tablet has over the Wiimote. Anyone stuck with the Wiimote is going to feel like they're not getting the full experience.

Like those poor people stuck playing with star bits in the Mario Galaxy games?

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