D4Danger
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(04-27-2012, 09:34 PM)

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#1151

"I'm not paying $60 a month for something that ought to be free"

this would be the appropriate place to play the entitlement card.
Crewnh
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(04-27-2012, 09:37 PM)

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#1152

Hes right to say that though. Why should I pay for a gate fee?
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IMACOMPUTA
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(04-27-2012, 09:49 PM)

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newjeruse
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(04-27-2012, 11:55 PM)

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#1154

Does Garnett have hormonal issues or something? He's never had to deal with a conflict of interest in this industry before? Why is he so petulant about shit like that?
Blazyr
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(04-28-2012, 12:37 AM)

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#1155

Hormonal issues? That's a new swipe.
mattp
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(04-28-2012, 12:44 AM)

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#1156

Originally Posted by Jake Tower: View Post
She's working for Sony now, and Sony evidently doesn't allow its employees on podcasts. It's the same reason Nick Suttner can never be on RebelFM.

edit:
Wouldn't that be something.

I've honestly been waiting for John Davison to hire Garnett to come over to CBS Interactive in some capacity.
wasnt shane on 8-4 play or something at least once since going to sony?
eznark
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(04-28-2012, 01:59 AM)

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#1157

Boot Super Monday Night Combat

Hit play button

Hit Find Game button

Enter game

Wow. That confused you guys? Good christ, console gaming has made us all into barely functioning retards apparently.
MikeE21286
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(04-28-2012, 02:24 AM)

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Originally Posted by HamPster PamPster: View Post
I give Garnett 6 months until Ariel pulls him into a job at Sony

Which means we are 9 months from a Garnett, Shane and Nick Suttner podcast :) :) :)
Can definitely see that. You can tell he was biting his tongue or something about her not being on any longer.
catotheyounger
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(04-28-2012, 02:35 AM)

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#1159

I really appreciate that the show gets published "early". Also, would have liked some Witcher2 talk as it is in the gaming zeitgeist a bit - but taking that Shacknews was all over the PC version, I guess that evens things out.

And good on Garnett for being as transparent as he could be right off the bat. I appreciate the candor.
IMACOMPUTA
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(04-28-2012, 02:45 AM)

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#1160

I like Andrew Yoon's insight.
see5harp
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(04-28-2012, 02:47 AM)
#1161

Andrew Yoon is a good dude. I remember when he co-hosted PS3 Fanboy during those really shaky PS3 years.
theBishop
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(04-28-2012, 04:35 AM)

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#1162

Originally Posted by newjeruse: View Post
Does Garnett have hormonal issues or something? He's never had to deal with a conflict of interest in this industry before? Why is he so petulant about shit like that?
Because he wants listeners to know that he's connected.
jstevenson
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(04-28-2012, 04:36 AM)

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#1163

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Boot Super Monday Night Combat

Hit play button

Hit Find Game button

Enter game

Wow. That confused you guys? Good christ, console gaming has made us all into barely functioning retards apparently.
I think at the time I played that button either didn't exist or there was something g confusing / low player counts. I just remember it wasn't THAT easy, but I played like, 3-4 or more months ago originally.

Glad to know its easier, I need to jump on some more now, just been busy.
theBishop
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#1164

Originally Posted by D4Danger: View Post
"I'm not paying $60 a month for something that ought to be free"

this would be the appropriate place to play the entitlement card.
I'm with Garnett on this one. PC gaming has always been free, PS3+Vita are free, Steam is free. These services have comparable and sometimes exceeding feature sets with far less advertising.

Online multiplayer is a standard feature, not a premium.
eznark
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Originally Posted by jstevenson: View Post
I think at the time I played that button either didn't exist or there was something g confusing / low player counts. I just remember it wasn't THAT easy, but I played like, 3-4 or more months ago originally.

Glad to know its easier, I need to jump on some more now, just been busy.
To be fair, there is a ton of crap on the launch menu, but you can just hit Play.

Also, I may have jumped the gun slightly. While everything I said was true, I wrote it immediately after getting into the queue. Five minutes later it still hadn't found me a game!
Margalis
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(04-28-2012, 05:28 AM)
#1166

Discussion of All Stars Battle is pretty awful. It's just fundamentally a bad idea to have a guy whose girlfriend works on the game talking to a guy who works a for a company whose assets are part of the game.
Brewster's Wallet
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(04-28-2012, 10:28 AM)

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#1167

Originally Posted by mattp: View Post
wasnt shane on 8-4 play or something at least once since going to sony?
He even announced going to Sony on the 8-4 podcast, if I remember rightly
DaBuddaDa
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(04-28-2012, 10:36 AM)

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Originally Posted by theBishop: View Post
I'm with Garnett on this one. PC gaming has always been free, PS3+Vita are free, Steam is free. These services have comparable and sometimes exceeding feature sets with far less advertising.

Online multiplayer is a standard feature, not a premium.
Exactly. It's not entitled to desire to continue to have something you've already had for free forever :P We already pay our internet service providers monthly for bandwidth in the first place.
Last edited by DaBuddaDa; 04-28-2012 at 10:42 AM.
get2sammyb
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(04-28-2012, 10:40 AM)

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#1169

Originally Posted by Jake Tower: View Post
She's working for Sony now, and Sony evidently doesn't allow its employees on podcasts. It's the same reason Nick Suttner can never be on RebelFM.
I don't think that's quite true. The PlayStation Blog team regularly appear on IGN's Beyond, etc. She'll probably just be too busy, I guess?

Stoked for her landing the job though! :)
Trent Strong
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(04-28-2012, 11:24 AM)

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#1170

I can't listen to that voice.
Goldmund
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(04-28-2012, 11:44 AM)

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#1171

Originally Posted by Trent Strong: View Post
I can't listen to that voice.
I was a big fan of his during the MTV days when he had that show about hair metal music videos.
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(04-28-2012, 12:59 PM)

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#1172

I hope they find a way to let Ariel back on the show now and then she was always fun to listen to.
Vert boil
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(04-28-2012, 01:36 PM)

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#1173

The Suda/Mikami episode of Full Moon Show - http://www.insomniacgames.com/epsiode-10-july-19-2007/


It's a shame that Ariel won't be a regular or occasional guest anymore. She was the backbone of PixelJunk Radio and a welcome addition to WC.
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(04-28-2012, 02:12 PM)

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#1174

Originally Posted by jstevenson: View Post
oh, and I didn't derail Jeff on board games, though we may play board games this weekend, so I consider that a success.
I heard you gave Tammany Hall a nice shout out. Thanks a ton!
Curufinwe
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#1175

Originally Posted by get2sammyb: View Post
I don't think that's quite true. The PlayStation Blog team regularly appear on IGN's Beyond, etc. She'll probably just be too busy, I guess?

Stoked for her landing the job though! :)
But how come Shane still hasn't being on the PS Blogcast with Nick Suttner? That show could really do with having him on.
chickdigger802
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#1176

Yakuza 4.


Quote:
@GarnettLee: @JeffXZhang Kiryu still the best! Akiyama is also pretty fun


Garnett got the good tastes.
IMACOMPUTA
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(04-28-2012, 09:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by Margalis: View Post
Discussion of All Stars Battle is pretty awful. It's just fundamentally a bad idea to have a guy whose girlfriend works on the game talking to a guy who works a for a company whose assets are part of the game.
While I agree that this is usually a recipe for disaster, I think the guys did a good job and didn't show any bias.

So *raspberry*
Quasar
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(04-29-2012, 12:06 AM)

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Garnett, I just want to say I'm sad about Ariel no longer being on. I loved her. She quickly became a favourite cast member of mine. Fuck those guys.
jstevenson
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Originally Posted by IMACOMPUTA: View Post
While I agree that this is usually a recipe for disaster, I think the guys did a good job and didn't show any bias.

So *raspberry*
Yeah not sure what else we should've said? I even said that the difference between it and Smash Bros was a double edged sword --- but surely folks aren't expecting hard criticism / analysis based on limited time with a preview build.

I think any dev, regardless of whether or not you provided assets, would be willing to give a lot of benefit of the doubt at this stage.
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Originally Posted by Visualante2: View Post
Such a pity the music break has devolved into chip tunes, feels like pandering to whiney gamers who can't listen to anything not game related.
So you want White Boy Wasted to make a return huh? God help your soul.
Curufinwe
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#1181

RE 4 on the PS360 is not one of the weakest HD ports. It's in the middle tier way above stuff like the Silent Hill debacle and Ubisoft's sloppy conversions of Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia.
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#1182

Originally Posted by Paches-EJ-: View Post
So you want White Boy Wasted to make a return huh? God help your soul.
Stanky Dick 4eva.
Harlock
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(04-29-2012, 02:25 PM)

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#1183

Fantastic news for the show and for Ariel. I wish the best luck with your new job at sony.
Grisby
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(04-29-2012, 04:49 PM)

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#1184

Was an alright show. A little bored but thats probably because I was into a lot of the stuff being talked about.

Also, no mention of Gravity Rush for upcoming Vita titles? Fairly sure it drops in May and it looks awesome.
chickdigger802
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Originally Posted by Grisby: View Post
Was an alright show. A little bored but thats probably because I was into a lot of the stuff being talked about.

Also, no mention of Gravity Rush for upcoming Vita titles? Fairly sure it drops in May and it looks awesome.
June T_T
HamPster PamPster
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#1186

All the good stuff was shoved into the last 20 minutes this week. E3 talk / predictions is always fun, Walking Dead sounds great and Graces F barely got mentioned.

Instead we get Garnett "fighting for the little guy" on paying for live for a good third of the show. Don't get me wrong, I agree with him, but 7 years into this console gen is alittle late to be picking that fight

Anyway I loved everything they said about Walking Dead, but I hate zombies and gore so... I'll pass :/ I wish wish wish Jurassic Park was structured the same
hey_it's_that_dog
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Originally Posted by Visualante2: View Post
Such a pity the music break has devolved into chip tunes, feels like pandering to whiney gamers who can't listen to anything not game related.
Or maybe the music they played just wasn't very good. But no, it's probably those whiny gamers who can't bear to hear anything that isn't their imported Final Fantasy OSTs.
HamPster PamPster
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(04-29-2012, 06:02 PM)

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Nice to hear Garnett come out against the Game Informer article. What annoys me the most about those types of articles is the solidarity I see from games press on twitter.

Yeah I get you're all a close knit group but don't go defending a guy asking if its better to projectile vomit or punch a kitten after playing a game. At least pretend you have some respect for your audience. That said I haven't even looked in the gaf thread, I'm sure a bunch of readers are saying crap also, only increasing the desire among press to defend one another

You know between the xbox live rant and turning on a fellow writer I'm revising my "time-to-sony" estimate from 6 to 3 months :P

Get him a good spot Ariel, something with ample podcasting time!
Massa
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(04-29-2012, 06:10 PM)

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Originally Posted by HamPster PamPster: View Post
All the good stuff was shoved into the last 20 minutes this week. E3 talk / predictions is always fun, Walking Dead sounds great and Graces F barely got mentioned.

Instead we get Garnett "fighting for the little guy" on paying for live for a good third of the show. Don't get me wrong, I agree with him, but 7 years into this console gen is alittle late to be picking that fight
Microsoft is working on Live for their next system as we speak. There's not a better time to bring that up than now.

I don't think it's even standing up for the gamer either. For example, Netflix is more popular in the US on the PS3 than on the Xbox 360, which is cheaper and way more popular console. Why is that?

Charging a fee is a great business model if your customers are core gamers (like the 3 other people on the cast defending it) but it works completely against you if the goal is to be the box mainstream America use for all their TV entertainment options.
outunderthestars
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(04-29-2012, 06:13 PM)
#1190

Originally Posted by HamPster PamPster: View Post
All the good stuff was shoved into the last 20 minutes this week. E3 talk / predictions is always fun, Walking Dead sounds great and Graces F barely got mentioned.

Instead we get Garnett "fighting for the little guy" on paying for live for a good third of the show. Don't get me wrong, I agree with him, but 7 years into this console gen is alittle late to be picking that fight

Anyway I loved everything they said about Walking Dead, but I hate zombies and gore so... I'll pass :/ I wish wish wish Jurassic Park was structured the same
You should at least try the demo. I wasn't hyped for the game at all until I played it. Now I am hooked. :)
sixghost
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(04-29-2012, 06:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by HamPster PamPster: View Post
Nice to hear Garnett come out against the Game Informer article. What annoys me the most about those types of articles is the solidarity I see from games press on twitter.

Yeah I get you're all a close knit group but don't go defending a guy asking if its better to projectile vomit or punch a kitten after playing a game. At least pretend you have some respect for your audience. That said I haven't even looked in the gaf thread, I'm sure a bunch of readers are saying crap also, only increasing the desire among press to defend one another

You know between the xbox live rant and turning on a fellow writer I'm revising my "time-to-sony" estimate from 6 to 3 months :P

Get him a good spot Ariel, something with ample podcasting time!
That article was written by Chris Kluwe, who is the punter for the Minnesota Vikings.
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Originally Posted by sixghost: View Post
That article was written by Chris Kluwe, who is the punter for the Minnesota Vikings.
ha really? He should start a studio instead of writing like the baseball guy
frequency
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(04-30-2012, 02:29 PM)

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#1193

No more Ariel makes me sad.

I really enjoyed her and the cute undertones between her and Garnett. I thought they worked so well together on the podcast :(
Grisby
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(04-30-2012, 04:31 PM)

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#1194

Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
June T_T
Dammit. I was fairly sure it was out in May.
mclaren777
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#1195

Originally Posted by Trent Strong: View Post
I can't listen to that voice.
I found Andrew's voice to be incredibly distracting, both to the things he said and the show in general.
Jake Tower
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(05-01-2012, 12:33 AM)

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#1196

Originally Posted by Paches-EJ-: View Post
So you want White Boy Wasted to make a return huh? God help your soul.
I want some Stanky Dick.
IMACOMPUTA
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#1197

Originally Posted by Jake Tower: View Post
I want some Stanky Dick.
Avatar quote?


Also : I like Ariel too. She was coo...
Tylahedras
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(05-01-2012, 03:35 AM)

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#1198

I thought it was interesting having Ariel on for the different flavor she added. Shame to see her go.
jstevenson
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#1199

My finishing move last week was about GAFfer Stooge's kickstarter for Tammany Hall, which just went up:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...4/tammany-hall

If you like board games, worth backing for sure
get2sammyb
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(05-01-2012, 05:53 PM)

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#1200

I thought the All-Stars discussion was fine. I can see how it might be awkward though, and that's a little disappointing if I'm honest. The Sony first-party stuff is my favourite so I love it when it gets discussed on podcasts etc. It would be a shame if Weekend Confirmed had to tone down that sort of coverage simply because of personal circumstances.

I trust Garnett's objectivity, so as long as he's not revealing anything he shouldn't, I hope he's able to find a way to continue covering Santa Monica games without any weirdness. I'm really looking forward to the God of War chatter this week for example.