Phoenician_Viking
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I like how the counsel man manipulated Korra to do his bidding. BTW having two water benders on the counsel is unfair since of the other bender have one on the counsel.
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Legend of Korra |OT| - Saturday Mornings Just Got Better
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One thing about Korra I don't get is that she's had martial arts training most of her life from probably some of the best teachers in the world and yet she's getting wrecked by low level grunts. I understand she's probably never had to fight chi-blockers before but I'm still finding it hard to believe she can't adapt and actually put up a fight.
my first thought was "this is a setup" as well, but judging from her face expression when she was about to hit Mako, I think she was genuinely surprised
shira
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So he sends her tonnes of gifts but tricks her with ...
The ol Marty Mcfly?
I'm surprised he didn't call her chicken.
Zzz
I doubt she's ever been in a serious fight before. Not doing bad for someone with next to no street experience.
On that note pro-bending is a terrible thing to help her. She should have continued just beating up tria goons
They aren't really low-level grunts. Those chi-blocker dudes are crazy good. Korra could benefit from some more earthbending though.
Dominican Power
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That sounds the most feasible.
Yea, she's shown that she can handle low level grunts. These chi-blockers with those masks definitely fight at an elite level. They present a challenge that she'll eventually overcome.
Episode 3
bolin remind of
Episode 4
Cwarrior makes more obvious predictions
1.asami is the same chi-blocker biker girl korra fought in episode 3
2.amon is also the avatar, well a part of him
turkey sandwich.jpg
listen to this when aang died in baasing say but was resurrected part of him really died and gone through the cycle of reincarnation(something nature/spirt thrown out of balance) which is amon(yes some buffy the vampire slayer shit lololololl)
bolin remind of
Episode 4
Cwarrior makes more obvious predictions
1.asami is the same chi-blocker biker girl korra fought in episode 3
2.amon is also the avatar, well a part of him
turkey sandwich.jpg
listen to this when aang died in baasing say but was resurrected part of him really died and gone through the cycle of reincarnation(something nature/spirt thrown out of balance) which is amon(yes some buffy the vampire slayer shit lololololl)
the last one joke just let you know
Acerac
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That's a good point, but I think he still comes across as pretty badass to say that she isn't even strong enough to be worth his time to beat down yet.
Yeah, totally tongue in cheek, Korra would never accept that as an option. Still, it'd really muck up his whole plan.
I can't imagine them having more than a couple of years of training while she's been in fights/duels most of her life. I would say the guy using the electricity batons would be a mid-tier grunt.
While there certainly are differences between duels and streetfights, she hasn't really lasted more than a couple of minutes against any individual one.
Yeah, Korras bending is a bit disappointing. In the first episode we see her wiping the floor competely with her teachers during her fire bending trial. But we don't see any of her "masterfull" bending during the show. Doesn't the Avatar completely have to master one element to move onto the next one?
Aang did a lot more impressive stuff bending wise in the final face off with Ozai, sans the Avatar state. And Zuko's firebending, Katara's waterbending and Toph's Earthbending were all much better than Korras. Though all of them had trouble facing Ty Lee. Chi Blockers are just really powerful.
That's Amons right hand. I think it's safe to say he's the second strongest.
Aang did a lot more impressive stuff bending wise in the final face off with Ozai, sans the Avatar state. And Zuko's firebending, Katara's waterbending and Toph's Earthbending were all much better than Korras. Though all of them had trouble facing Ty Lee. Chi Blockers are just really powerful.
That's Amons right hand. I think it's safe to say he's the second strongest.
Electric baton guy is the Lieutenant, Amon's second in command. So I wouldn't say he is low tier at all.
WrenchNinja
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Theres a huge difference between sparring for years in a controlled setting and a real life fight.
Its no wonder Korra is so fearless, shes had nothing to fear her whole life during her training. Amon and his cronies are giving her a reality check.
Its no wonder Korra is so fearless, shes had nothing to fear her whole life during her training. Amon and his cronies are giving her a reality check.
Dominican Power
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The reason there's two water benders in the council is because of the Northern/Southern water tribes.
Dominican Power
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Didn't they raid a hidden cellar in the Dragonflats borough of Republic City?
Prax
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Plus she's fighting in the streets and stuff with environmental hazards unlike her old training grounds most likely. Probably also trying to avoid more collateral/property damage since her last run-in with the law. XD
She's just.. .. >_> Out of her element in Republic City at the moment? Haaa..
I guess after Asami, one more character until the "main gang" for the show is made?
She's just.. .. >_> Out of her element in Republic City at the moment? Haaa..
I guess after Asami, one more character until the "main gang" for the show is made?
My favourite moment:
His stern face and the timing is perfect..
On a serious note, I felt that the lead-up to the Dragonflats Burrow raid segment was one of the best scenes so far in terms of music and combat.
The moment they open the tank full of water and begin siphoning it among the task force in stealth, such an awesome moment only compounded by the beat. Then a full redux into silence as the place is bombarded with some brutal (finally) water and earth bending.
So good.
His stern face and the timing is perfect..
On a serious note, I felt that the lead-up to the Dragonflats Burrow raid segment was one of the best scenes so far in terms of music and combat.
The moment they open the tank full of water and begin siphoning it among the task force in stealth, such an awesome moment only compounded by the beat. Then a full redux into silence as the place is bombarded with some brutal (finally) water and earth bending.
So good.
While I agree Kora's bending wasn't that impressive against the Chi blockers so far, I doubt those guys during the trial were her teachers or better said, her masters. Katara was standing there watching it, together with a fire bending robed guy who I think was her firebending master.
I was wondering about that as well. However, all the elements except airare represent so far and a non-bender as well. But seeing as air only consits of Korras master and 3 children, I doubt one of them will be part of the Krew, so it might as well be the final group.
Phoenician_Viking
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Korra does not strike me like a smart girl honestly. I think she was easily roped in by the counsel man.
I think that was more about how Tarrlok knowing exactly how to play her. The press pushing her into doing this was a really smart move from his side. Plus it was very unlike Korra not to jump at the chance to join the task force in the first place.
shira
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He totally took a dumpMy favourite moment:
His stern face and the timing is perfect..
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IrrelevantNotch
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Korra = Toph
Bolin = Aang
Mako = Zuko
???? = Katara
???? = Sokka
Bolin = Aang
Mako = Zuko
???? = Katara
???? = Sokka
I'd say Bolin is more Sokka than Aang
FlutterPuffs
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Sato did mention that he was helped by someone to build his business, and I'm guessing that's Amon. It also makes sense since the Satomobile isn't powered by anything bender related, so it's what Amon would have wanted.
My theory is that Asami was sent to get closer to Mako to keep an eye on Korra.
My theory is that Asami was sent to get closer to Mako to keep an eye on Korra.
IrrelevantNotch
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Sokka would be smacking his head in disbelief if he were to read this.
Dominican Power
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I hope they bring back the adventure elements of Avatar.
He seems to profit fine in the current scenario. Non-benders greatly outnumber benders as it is, so it's not like he needs a market created for his wares. He simply found that automation achieved something better than bender labour did, and utilised it. This is no different than what happens in our society. The old is regularly replaced by new innovations, and this really isn't much different from cars replacing horse and cart. It's not like the benders, seeing a threat to their position as transport movers, tried to crush his business. They just let the tides of technology replace them, and newer generations moved their bending powers to other things that more modern technology allow (pro-bending, for example, is hugely popular thanks to radio, and is exclusive to benders).
The fact that the construction of his satomobiles also didn't require benders was probably implemented not because he hates benders, but because non-benders are in greater number, and almost certainly cost less to employ. I imagine hiring a highly specialised bender minority costs a premium that isn't conducive to mass production and mass market consumption.
And besides, I bet there are plenty of benders who also use his vehicles too! They've benefited from his inventions as well.
I think he's there to prove that you don't need some revolutionary nutjob to wipe out benders in order to achieve equality, you just need to innovate ways of bringing the non-benders up. Him and his industry are as much a plot device as he is an individual character.
Hiroshi Sato: Constructive in the enfranchisement of non-benders.
Amon: Destructive in his anti-bender ways.
It seems pretty obvious to me. Sato's methods will improve everyone's lives in the long run, whereas Amon will wipe out benders, and as a consequence the world loses the benefits that they bring (such as, for example, electricity).
1) Won't know until it's disproven, but I highly doubt she's a villain.
2) Impossible. When Aang died in Ba Sing Se, he was in the avatar state, which is why his death was so perilous. If an avatar dies in the avatar state, it also kills the spirit of the avatar, meaning all previous and future incarnations of the spirit die too. If Aang had remained dead at Ba Sing Se, no avatar would've been born to follow him. By that logic, the avatar cycle couldn't fork into two avatars either.
Wasn't sure if serious, which is why I replied.
Going to have to disagree with you on Asami though.
In the first episode she fought two firebenders of the White Lotus and easily beat them. After that she concluded she was ready to begin her airbending training (which White Lotus dude didn't agree with, Katara did). I took that like that was her final trial to prove she had mastered firebending (as she had done with earthbending and waterbending before).
But all of her bending is in no way comparable to that of masters in TLA.
Completely off topic: I need to find a way/moment to make a joke about Michael Metalbender.
I wouldn't be too surprised if Katara bringing Aang back from the dead messed with the Avatar Cycle a little. My original crack theory was that Amon would also have the ability to bend all four elements, but I like the idea that he is the embodiment of the Avatar's spiritual side more.
It's would just be so strange with Aang having to restore teh Avatar cycle one by one in the Spirit World in that Canon flash game after Book 2. But we'll see.
Also, if that theory were to be true, Amon would be 70 years old. I don't know..
CronosBlade
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Ok what the hell happened? DVR didnt tape yesterday's ep, so I'll catch a rerun this morning. But in looking at the schedule, it doesn't think there's an ep next week. And when I go to next Saturday, its not there.
Uuugh.
Uuugh.
Korra can no longer bend. Well not in the traditional way, she became Bender from Futurama and now bends girders for a living
fabricated backlash
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Why people are so fascinated with the idea that Amon could be the Avatar in some form or another is beyond me. The Avatar isn't the only person able to comunicate with the spirits. Iroh visited the spirit world, and was able to see Aang and Rokus Dragon in their spirit forms.
Also it's not like the spirits are all pro Avatar. In Fact, the Avatar is just able to interact with them more easily and serve as an ambassador between the two worlds.
Either Aang pissed off some spirits before his death, or Amons grief let him get into contact with a spirit that wasn't all too happy about the Avatar Cycle.
Also it's not like the spirits are all pro Avatar. In Fact, the Avatar is just able to interact with them more easily and serve as an ambassador between the two worlds.
Either Aang pissed off some spirits before his death, or Amons grief let him get into contact with a spirit that wasn't all too happy about the Avatar Cycle.
fabricated backlash
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Mastering the bending itself is completely different form actually using this bending in a fight.
Korra allways trained, she never had to rely on her bending to actually survive until now. She is strong, but completely lacks experience.
Aang pretty much had to learn everything while being constantly on the run, fighting for his life. He got most of his sparring during actual fights.
T
Transhuman
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For all we know each representative was democratically elected by their respective nation, and the elected just happened to be benders.
It's been said by Bryke that ability to bend is partly genetics and partly spiritual, which explains why one twin might be a bender and the other might not (The Fortune Teller), and how Katara was a bender despite both her parents not being benders, and why the Air Nomads being highly spiritual would result in all their people being benders.
However Sato was 18 when he received the financial backing for the Satomobile factory, and he's 50 now. Guessing Amon's age to be about 40, I doubt Amon had serious investment money when he was 8.
I thought it was confirmed that the money came from
the cabbage merchant
Ultimadrago
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Korra 4
This is the first Korra episode where the dialogue has made me pause.
The council leading the offensive against Amon was obvious as well as Korra falling for the oldest public relations trick in the books.
Bolin as poor man's Sokka confirmed.
The CG vehicles need a break.
This episode didn't bode well with me, I hope the next one fares better.
This is the first Korra episode where the dialogue has made me pause.
The council leading the offensive against Amon was obvious as well as Korra falling for the oldest public relations trick in the books.
Bolin as poor man's Sokka confirmed.
The CG vehicles need a break.
This episode didn't bode well with me, I hope the next one fares better.
Cool to see a snap of older Toph though.
For generations, benders were the elite among each nation and held most of the positions of power. It is no wonder that when they initially set up the council, that each nation would send a powerful bender to represent them.
However, as the nations stopped fighting amongst themselves, the power imbalance between benders and non-benders became more prominent.
Before, a bender would be "our bender". For the people living together in Republic City, people no longer feel that kind of attachment to their individual nations so it makes sense that their new group allegiance would be "non bender" instead of "Fire Nation" etc. Heck, even the nations were named after their respective bending powers. Benders have dominated society and culture since they first came into being.'
The real question is, why does the Southern Water Tribe and the Northern Water Tribe each get a representative, when the Earth Kingdom's population and land mass should dwarf them both and they only get one? It seems really bizarre that the Water Tribes get extra representation on the council. Is it because they decided that the 5th spot would be taken by a representative of the current Avatar's national affiliation?
JetBlackPanda
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Interesting... I felt completely enthralled the entire time!!! My only complaint would be that the animation was not as good as 1-3.
That's obviously going to be the final solution at the end of the Amon story arc. They will say that while he had some good points, he went about solving the problem in the wrong way. Then they will add non-benders to the ruling council to make life more fair for all citizens and with this act, remove a lot of the feeling of oppression that fuels the Equalist movement.
While this solution seems obvious, I highly doub that it will be one for the Amon problem. For him it's not just the council which is opressing non-benders, it's every bender and he will not stop just because he gets some representation. And the way I see it, it's the same with many of his supporters.
Yep. I feel like Sato is funding Amon to return the favor. Heck, Sato's voice kind of reminded me of Amon's voice, but his build is completely different so he can't be Amon.
Hmm, that might work. But again that assumes that the reconciliation of the northern and southern tribes has progressed to the point of a unified nation. And we haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.
Given the current info, the most logical reason is that the council recognizes individual nations. The earth kingdom, big as it is, has always been represented as a single unified state. So they just got to roll with senate rules instead.
I imagine if a section of the earth kingdom had secceded and instituted their own government they would be represented as well.
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