Anbokr
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(05-01-2012, 04:43 AM)

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#1251

Originally Posted by mysocksarepink: View Post
http://img.anongallery.org/img/2/6/what-is-this-i-dont-even-spiderman.jpg

I BEEN HAD >:O

still, he's a pro in my heart because of his help <3 I got ur back, boo
*high five*

procarbine is just jealous cuz hes not the team captain of the EG Gunnarbokrz.

and cuz he still can't top #1 ss world
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Finalow
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(05-01-2012, 05:00 AM)

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#1252

Originally Posted by Sgt.Pepper: View Post
Hats.
holy shit. plis no.
Forkball
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(05-01-2012, 05:06 AM)

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#1253

Originally Posted by finalozzo: View Post
holy shit. plis no.
Cosmetic items have already been found in the item schema. Save your money for Dota keys.
perryfarrell
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(05-01-2012, 05:09 AM)

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#1254

Yep, was just in a game with a Doombringer who also found an unknown item. I wonder what Valve has up its sleeve...
Procarbine
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(05-01-2012, 05:26 AM)

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#1255

Originally Posted by Anbokr: View Post
*high five*

procarbine is just jealous cuz hes not the team captain of the EG Gunnarbokrz.

and cuz he still can't top #1 ss world
http://www.twitch.tv/procarbine/b/295308237

Procarbine (SF equiv) v Anbokr (QoP equiv)
Anbokr
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(05-01-2012, 05:37 AM)

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#1256

yo yo yo bro nobody plays that crappy league of legends knockoff anymore. get with the times.
Finalow
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(05-01-2012, 05:39 AM)

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#1257

Originally Posted by Forkball: View Post
Cosmetic items have already been found in the item schema. Save your money for Dota keys.
uh?
Drkirby
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(05-01-2012, 05:51 AM)

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#1258

Originally Posted by finalozzo: View Post
uh?
These Keys:



And the hats isn't speculation, it really is happening:
http://optf2.com/d2/items


I like how the defalut icons are starting to fill in.
Finalow
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(05-01-2012, 06:06 AM)

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#1259

Originally Posted by Drkirby: View Post
And the hats isn't speculation, it really is happening:
http://optf2.com/d2/items
nope, I refuse to believe.
snack
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(05-01-2012, 06:10 AM)

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#1260

Originally Posted by Drkirby: View Post
These Keys:



And the hats isn't speculation, it really is happening:
http://optf2.com/d2/items


I like how the defalut icons are starting to fill in.
Swag.
Bo
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(05-01-2012, 06:12 AM)

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#1261

Originally Posted by finalozzo: View Post
nope, I refuse to believe.
Valve sure is making a lot of cosmetics for giggles.
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#1262

Originally Posted by Botolf: View Post
Valve sure is making a lot of cosmetics for giggles.
It's for the monies. They know people will buy em' too. Smart move on their part.
Bo
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#1263

That is the joke, my good man.
Dreams-Visions
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(05-01-2012, 06:16 AM)

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#1264

Originally Posted by Drkirby: View Post
These Keys:



And the hats isn't speculation, it really is happening:
http://optf2.com/d2/items


I like how the defalut icons are starting to fill in.
:D

so ready.
Gully State
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(05-01-2012, 06:18 AM)

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#1265

Who here is planning on spending money in dota? I know I will just out of principle for putting 200 hours in this game...
Bo
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(05-01-2012, 06:20 AM)

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#1266

Depends on what they offer. Some solid announcer packs would really tempt me, as would some kickass costume sets (like, on the order of quality as a hero's original set, not flashy but strongly designed).
hamchan
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(05-01-2012, 08:00 AM)

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#1267

I would spend money if there are pretty costumes.
Waikis
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(05-01-2012, 08:18 AM)

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#1268

i want a juggalo costume for pudge
Jac_Solar
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(05-01-2012, 09:28 AM)

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#1269

Do we talk about their idea of rewarding the popular/"good behaving" (Or their suggested idea of incentivizing such behaviour.) type of people" you want to play" with here?

It's a good theory, but it doesn't work in reality.

Many people are very petty, and would turn a game with such a concept into something very bad.

For example, if you downgrade "A" for being an absolute jerk, but he has a lot of friends, he might convince his friends to downgrade you. There might be measures against this, like in order to grade someone you have to play with them/have evidence, but "A" might convince his friends to hunt you down in a game, and antagonize you, or simply report things out of context. If there's no chat system, the grading system would work on behaviour, but this could also be reported out of context by a group of people in order to convince an admin to raise your costs.

And I doubt that they would hire 20+ million admins to personally investigate/be a part of every game, chat log and circumstance of a report in detail -- but still, even that won't guarantee a fair community in a game with a concept like that. People with slightly/very different opinions, perspectives and so on would eventually be frozen out, forced to either submit to whatever is the norm at the time or pay a lot more money.

Many people have radically different opinions and ideas, but they tend to get frozen out of the popular community in one way or another, and the reward/punishment program would exaggerate this type of behaviour among humans to the extreme. Valve must know this, so I do not understand how they could even entertain the idea of implementing their idea. They must know that people don't behave like that -- they never have, and never will (Most likely.) across such a vide variety of people.

I do welcome any insight into how it might work, but to me, it just seems illogical and highly destructive. As I said, it forces people to either submit to the 'accepted behaviour model' (Whatever that might be -- it would be defined by the majority of people, which is wrong.).

Whatever happened to individualism?

However, I'm not entirely against it. It's a good experiment, but their current idea, or atleast how they pitched it, doesn't sound good, for reasons I explained. It sounds a bit like extreme communism with money as a reward (Saving money.). And incentivizing behaviour across a wide variety of people with money is NOT a good idea, certainly not on such a large scale.

The current pay-to-play model is indeed broken though, cause you have to pay for content or to eventually progress (Some games let you play to a certain level then, more or less, force you to pay to progress any higher.)
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Phandy
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(05-01-2012, 09:39 AM)

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#1270

I always thought they should make it so you can only commend or report someone during a game or maybe even just a slot at the end of the game. Maybe just while the scoreboard shows at the end.
Jac_Solar
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Originally Posted by Phandy: View Post
I always thought they should make it so you can only commend or report someone during a game or maybe even just a slot at the end of the game. Maybe just while the scoreboard shows at the end.
But on such a general scale, it wouldn't work, I think atleast. People might report the people they disagreed with on a random subject, people who were better than them at the game, or people they know in real life and disagree with/dislike, or perhaps someone they know on the internet/recognize from the internet and disagree with, etc. Peoples motivations are not as pure as the Valve model requires in order to be fair.

There are similar models in gaming already, like rating someone, and such, but it's not really a big deal. However, once that model gets a monetary reward program, it will become far more complex to control -- people will set up websites to 'offer good ratings', people will scheme, and plot. People will try to think of ways to manipulate it.
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Schweinehund
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(05-01-2012, 10:58 AM)

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#1272

Love seeing the strange attributes on weapons. The way I play though is I random a lot of matches, so one character wouldn't have a ton of kills accumulated.
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Archie
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(05-01-2012, 11:35 AM)

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#1273

Know what would be awesome? If TF2 keys worked in Dota 2 and vice versa.

Originally Posted by finalozzo: View Post
nope, I refuse to believe.
I'd rather buy hats than heroes.
Drkirby
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(05-01-2012, 11:58 AM)

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#1274

I think it would be a good move on Valve's part to make the keys between games compatible.
RukusProvider
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(05-01-2012, 12:01 PM)

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#1275

I plan to buy nothing in game. I refuse to play F2P moba games where I'm micro transactioned to death. I'll happily quit Dota if that is the case.
Meteorain
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(05-01-2012, 12:02 PM)

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#1276

Originally Posted by RukusProvider: View Post
I plan to buy nothing in game. I refuse to play F2P moba games where I'm micro transactioned to death. I'll happily quit Dota if that is the case.
Good thing you're not forced to buy anything eh?
Archie
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(05-01-2012, 12:09 PM)

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#1277

Originally Posted by Drkirby: View Post
I think it would be a good move on Valve's part to make the keys between games compatible.
It would also potentially bolster the Mannconomy which has taken a bit of a hit in the past year. Although if keys are interchangeable, it might as well be called the Valveconomy.

I wonder what Valve will do to keep cosmetic prices high and prevent another TF2 situation where people idling dozens of accounts devalued everything. I assume cosmetics will only drop at the end of matchmaking games and at a greatly reduced rate for bot games (to prevent easy farming, but reward new players to some degree).
RukusProvider
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(05-01-2012, 12:12 PM)

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#1278

Originally Posted by Meteorain: View Post
Good thing you're not forced to buy anything eh?
We will see how valve approaches it but in the other 2 games, you somewhat are if you want to stay competitive.

I have more faith in valve thus I'm putting the time into the beta now.
Archie
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(05-01-2012, 12:15 PM)

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#1279

Tobi asked Erik Johnson if Dota 2 microtransactions will affect gameplay and he said 'no'.

The most intrusive microtransactions will be strange parts that track stats such as times casting a certain spell or number of wards placed. That could create greedy and stupid play for the sake of a +1 on the epeen scale.
Lirlond
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(05-01-2012, 12:33 PM)

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#1280

Yeah, even in tf2 weapon drops are super common. Whenever a new (statted) weapon was released I would see loads of people with all of them perhaps a few days later at most. You never had to pay for anything.
Phandy
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(05-01-2012, 12:40 PM)

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#1281

They should make it so you only get anything if you finish a matchmaking game. So if you afk and/or get an abandon, or if you leave before the end; you get nothing.

Make it so you cant duke the system. No pussy footing around. Matchmaking will be 95% of the games played so you might as well use that.
Tenck
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(05-01-2012, 01:52 PM)

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#1282

How am I going to idle in Dota 2?
Heavy's Sandvich
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(05-01-2012, 01:58 PM)

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#1283

I won't spend a penny unless it's for a boomer costume for pudge and a tank costume for tiny.

Another flood of promotional items tied in with 3rd party game surely are to be expected.
Baha
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(05-01-2012, 02:00 PM)

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#1284

Originally Posted by Heavy's Sandvich: View Post
I won't spend a penny unless it's for a boomer costume for pudge and a tank costume for tiny.

Another flood of promotional items tied in with 3rd party game surely are to be expected.
A hunter costume for life stealer?
Heavy's Sandvich
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#1285

Didn't even think of naix. A witch costume for death prophet.

I won't actually spend a penny of on this. Didn't spend a penny on LoL.
Interfectum
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(05-01-2012, 02:05 PM)

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#1286

ill pay for a top hat for my sniper.
zombieshavebrains
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(05-01-2012, 04:32 PM)

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#1287

Santa suit for Pudge/Brewmaster.
dave is ok
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#1288

A GlaDos announcer pack is basically guaranteed.
Archie
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(05-01-2012, 04:38 PM)

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#1289

Originally Posted by dave is ok: View Post
A GlaDos announcer pack is basically guaranteed.
I won a bet with a friend who thought Dota 2 wouldn't be F2P. He has to buy me the Glados pack. :)
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#1290

Originally Posted by zombieshavebrains: View Post
Santa suit for Pudge/Brewmaster.
That'd be epic! lolol
perryfarrell
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(05-01-2012, 04:59 PM)

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#1291

Originally Posted by Tenck: View Post
How am I going to idle in Dota 2?
20 min no rush kk ^_^
Anbokr
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#1292

Originally Posted by Archie: View Post
I won a bet with a friend who thought Dota 2 wouldn't be F2P. He has to buy me the Glados pack. :)
archie scamming people with downs... figures.
Gully State
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(05-01-2012, 05:01 PM)

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#1293

Quote:
Never forget
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#1294

Originally Posted by Gully State: View Post
Never forget
Looks like Venom mixed with whale.
Earthstrike
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(05-01-2012, 05:08 PM)

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#1295

I got an item, but no clue what it is or how to see my stuff. I think they are just testing hat distribution atm.
Deadly
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(05-01-2012, 05:09 PM)

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#1296

Quote:
As you've helped us become one of the most popular online titles to date, we thought it was only appropriate that League of Legends Season Two should boast the largest prize pool in eSports. The League of Legends Season Two prize pool will feature a record setting $5 million prize pool!
Jesus. Will Gabe top this?

EDIT:Only confirmed seems to be 5 million prize pool. Still bigger than the International though.
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throwawayname
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#1297

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Riot Games announced the details for the Season 2 World Championships for League of Legends, including a $3 million prize for the winning team.
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Jesus. Will Gabe top this?
Deadly
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(05-01-2012, 05:14 PM)

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#1298

Also according to Destiny from SC2, Quantic disbanded. Not sure if it's only their SC2 division but it would explain why Eclypsia bought the team.
close to the edge
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Originally Posted by Deadly: View Post
Also according to Destiny from SC2, Quantic disbanded. Not sure if it's only their SC2 division but it would explain why Eclypsia bought the team.
Really? That would be pretty big news, aren't they a fairly large organisation?
SteveWinwood
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(05-01-2012, 05:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by Archie: View Post
I won a bet with a friend who thought Dota 2 wouldn't be F2P. He has to buy me the Glados pack. :)
I wish I had dumb friends :(