Metalic
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Whoops, LTTP here ^^;

it is sad if true , but I am okay if there is going to be another game with such quality.
Augemitbutter
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Originally Posted by Krev: View Post
I actually liked Sega this gen, but they are now clearly horrible.
why are they horrible?
Speedymanic
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...

May the Gods shrivel your cock for bringing us this devastating news, V_Ben.
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Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
http://i.imgur.com/AjeLb.gif

...

May the Gods shrivel your cock for bringing us this devastating news, V_Ben.
Oh dude, don't shrivel the messenger. That's not right.
AAK
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#655

Do you want Bayonetta 2????





Buy ANARCHY REIGNS!!!! Give Sega the signal that you want more of her.
shidoshi
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Has this site ever broken any serious rumors that would make one find them the least bit worth trusting?
Krev
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Originally Posted by Augemitbutter: View Post
why are they horrible?
Because they maybe cancelled Bayonetta 2 and Jet Set Radio for Wii U and Vita.
This is all sensible from a business perspective, but it's horrible if you're a fan of those series.
Originally Posted by shidoshi: View Post
Has this site ever broken any serious rumors that would make one find them the least bit worth trusting?
They're actually well known for making up stories.
Carbonox_Ratchet
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Originally Posted by lowhighkang_LHK: View Post
Kamiya just go back to Capcom and make DMC5 dude. Like seriouslaay.
Why would you want to ruin him like that? What's he ever done to you?
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Augemitbutter
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Originally Posted by Krev: View Post
Because they maybe cancelled Bayonetta 2 and Jet Set Radio for Wii U and Vita.
This is all sensible from a business perspective, but it's horrible if you're a fan of those series.
B2 cancellation is most probably bullshit, as you realize yourself. isn't JSR coming out on other platforms? it's hard to call them horrible because of that, when they already released so many good games this generations.
LumpOfCole
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Bayonetta 2 cancelled.

Bayonetta Rock n Roll Tap Dance Edition for iPad confirmed.
Krev
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Originally Posted by Augemitbutter: View Post
B2 cancellation is most probably bullshit, as you realize yourself. isn't JSR coming out on other platforms? it's hard to call them horrible because of that, when they already released so many good games this generations.
JSR for Wii U and Vita was an original game. It's just a rumour, but multiple sources corroborated it.

Again, I think Sega did a great job this generation and it's a shame they didn't find the success they deserved. I'm just being hyperbolic about what seems to be their direction going forward.
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Average beat-em-up with above par visuals and a quirky Japanese style gets cancelled.

This sold poorly for a very good reason. Apart from the GAF love-in, it was a very mediocre gameplay experience and brought little new to the table - did anyone really expect a sequel to be made?

There are about a gazillion other games that should have sequels made before this. God Hand 2 anyone?
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I still believe.
Discotheque
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
Average beat-em-up with above par visuals and a quirky Japanese style gets cancelled.

This sold poorly for a very good reason. Apart from the GAF love-in, it was a very mediocre gameplay experience and brought little new to the table - did anyone really expect a sequel to be made?

There are about a gazillion other games that should have sequels made before this. God Hand 2 anyone?
lol Bayonetta is so much better than God Hand. The latter was enjoyable but had a really sloppy control scheme for a beat em up.

Bayonetta played smoooooth.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
Average beat-em-up with above par visuals and a quirky Japanese style gets cancelled.

This sold poorly for a very good reason. Apart from the GAF love-in, it was a very mediocre gameplay experience and brought little new to the table - did anyone really expect a sequel to be made?

There are about a gazillion other games that should have sequels made before this. God Hand 2 anyone?
Best action game of the generation with a 90 metacritic and the best dodge mechanic ever in gaming is a mediocre GAF love-in that doesn't deserve a sequel.

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Originally Posted by Net_Wrecker: View Post
Best action game of the generation with a 90 metacritic and the best dodge mechanic ever in gaming is a mediocre GAF love-in that doesn't deserve a sequel.

If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
SmokyDave
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold about a 1000th of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Ah, you blew your load too soon.
TheOddOne
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Sales indicate if a game is good?
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
I figured you were trolling but defending Bayonetta is one of the games that bypasses my Troll Detector.

I'll let you slide this one time.
Magic Mushroom
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(05-01-2012, 09:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
Average beat-em-up with above par visuals and a quirky Japanese style gets cancelled.

This sold poorly for a very good reason. Apart from the GAF love-in, it was a very mediocre gameplay experience and brought little new to the table - did anyone really expect a sequel to be made?

There are about a gazillion other games that should have sequels made before this. God Hand 2 anyone?
Crazy poster is crazy.

http://www.edge-online.com/reviews/review-bayonetta

EDIT: ah, trolling.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Either you are really bad at trolling or you are on cocaine
kurtrussell
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Originally Posted by Nibel: View Post
Either you are really bad at trolling or you are on cocaine
Nope.

Sega is a business. Businesses need to make money. Therefore as a responsible business owner, you pick the titles that will make the most money to create a sequel.

Despite not being what the GAF hive-mind wants to hear, Bayonetta 2 would do nothing other than add to Sega's red ink.
sonicmj1
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Bayonetta shipped over a million units worldwide as of May 2010. This isn't a Binary Domain-level flop we're talking about.
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some publisher better/should buy the IP from SEGA.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Yeah well done. Bra-vo.

Quote:
Nope.

Sega is a business. Businesses need to make money. Therefore as a responsible business owner, you pick the titles that will make the most money to create a sequel.

Despite not being what the GAF hive-mind wants to hear, Bayonetta 2 would do nothing other than add to Sega's red ink.
Wait, are you serious? You can't compare this to Call of Duty in sales. Nothing does outside of Nintendo evergreen titles.
Carbonox_Ratchet
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Kudos, kurtrussell, kudos.
Rivyn
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Originally Posted by sonicmj1: View Post
Bayonetta shipped over a million units worldwide as of May 2010. This isn't a Binary Domain-level flop we're talking about.
It sold over 1 million over two consoles. That is not much and will hardly give any profit.
Aaron
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Bayonetta 2 is one of those games that if it was a kickstarter I'd be pledging at the highest tier. It's a real shame more people didn't play the original.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
Sega is a business. Businesses need to make money. Therefore as a responsible business owner, you pick the titles that will make the most money to create a sequel.
no shit sherlock.

Sega is not our business, therefore we don't care about how much profit they make and not. We are only interested in the games they publish.

Bayonetta was received very well by critics as well as by the gamers. saying that it offers a 'very mediocre gameplay experience' is your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Salih: View Post
Bayonetta was received very well by critics as well as by the gamers. saying that it offers a 'very mediocre gameplay experience' is your opinion.
It is. And that's what you do on message boards, y'know, you express your opinion.
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Is this some kind of next level trolling? I'm not sure I have the right gear to deal with it...
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reptilescorpio
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Bayonetta budget does not equal MW3 budget.

Therefore Bayonetta does not require $100 million in sales to turn a profit.

How do people not understand this?
mandas
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(05-01-2012, 10:47 AM)

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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
I was taking the argument seriously until I read this.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
It is. And that's what you do on message boards, y'know, you express your opinion.
Your opinion is only tenuously based in reality

But my trolldar is going fucking crazy. I think it's trying to exist in two realities at once.
lazorexplosion
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#686

Eh maybe they can make something with less hideous characters and stupid self indulgent cinematics instead.
Shatner's Bassoon
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Tried the first on GAF's recommendation. Terrible game. Dante's Inferno was better although I never read the tie-in novel the made for that game.
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Originally Posted by Shatner's Bassoon: View Post
Tried the first on GAF's recommendation. Terrible game. Dante's Inferno was better although I never read the tie-in novel the made for that game.


Seriously though I hope this isn't true. If sega were actually finished with platinum who do you think would publish their games?
Vorg
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Originally Posted by Shatner's Bassoon:
Tried the first on GAF's recommendation. Terrible game. Dante's Inferno was better although I never read the tie-in novel the made for that game.
wat. Seriously, Shatner's Bassoon? Because Dante's Inferno is as shitty as it gets.
GuardianE
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Shatner's Bassoon is clearly not being serious.
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
There are about a gazillion other games that should have sequels made before this. God Hand 2 anyone?
Didn't God Hand bomb...
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Originally Posted by Shatner's Bassoon: View Post
Tried the first on GAF's recommendation. Terrible game. Dante's Inferno was better although I never read the tie-in novel the made for that game.
Originally Posted by awwyeahgurrl: View Post


Seriously though I hope this isn't true. If sega were actually finished with platinum who do you think would publish their games?
Yeah, seriously, what's terrible about Bayonetta. I can understand if people didn't like the art. Can't please everyone, but the gameplay is top notch.
Dodge-offset is just genius.


Terrible if true, no Bayonetta 2 and no Nier 2 :(

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Originally Posted by Net_Wrecker: View Post
Oh dude, don't shrivel the messenger. That's not right.
LOL
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Originally Posted by kurtrussell: View Post
If it was that good, how come it only sold a fraction of the copies that Modern Warfare did?
Originally Posted by lazorexplosion: View Post
Eh maybe they can make something with less hideous characters and stupid self indulgent cinematics instead.
Quote:
Tried the first on GAF's recommendation. Terrible game. Dante's Inferno was better although I never read the tie-in novel the made for that game.
These c-can't be s-serious posts...?

Made by human beings? There's gotta be...some sorta...

I'm at a loss for words....
Air Zombie Meat
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The tie in novel comment didn't tip you guys off?
V_Arnold
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(05-01-2012, 11:37 AM)

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To people comparing sales and sales only to determine whether something has made profit or not:

Profit is not determined by sales. It is determined by factoring in three things:
1) How much did it bring in as revenue
2) How much did it cost to make (+marketing costs)
3) What better project could have been assigned to the same team.

Platinum Games is not one to get on a Sonic title, obviously, so 3) is not a factor in Bayonetta's case. Also, Bayonetta costs a fraction of what a game like the current AAA+ games cost, and still had an insanely high quality.

Also, sooner or later, big studios and companies will need to act like TV broadcasters, keeping some of the critically acclaimed shows for prestige, even if the money is barely coming back. It is good for pleasing your "viewers"/players.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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Originally Posted by V_Arnold: View Post
Also, sooner or later, big studios and companies will need to act like TV broadcasters, keeping some of the critically acclaimed shows for prestige, even if the money is barely coming back. It is good for pleasing your "viewers"/players.
Exactly. It's called image cultivation.
lazorexplosion
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Originally Posted by Criminal Upper: View Post
These c-can't be s-serious posts...?

Made by human beings? There's gotta be...some sorta...

I'm at a loss for words....
Fanboy much?
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Criticisms based on artstyle and cinematics and general aesthetic issues are legit, since that's a taste thing. But complaints about gameplay are insane.
awwyeahgurrl
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Bayonetta 2, Wii U launch. Believe.