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Original Deus Ex coming to PS3 says PEGI #1

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The original Deus Ex appears to be heading to PlayStation 3.

The as yet unannounced title has appeared on the website of European age ratings body PEGI.

The entry is for 'Deus Ex' on PS3, with an age-rating of 16.

It's likely that the game will be PSN release of a port of the PS2 title Deus Ex: The Conspiracy, which IGN gave 7.9. The game featured minor changes from the PC original, including new opening and closing cinematics, a simplified interface, and improved graphics.

The release date for the new PS3 version is listed as May 1st, but no official details have been released.

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May 1st? Anyone seen anything yet?
Omikaru
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(05-02-2012, 01:25 PM)

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"Minor changes"? What the fuck are they smoking? I played Deus Ex on PS2 and the changes were pretty major. Level design, for one, is very different compared to its PC counterpart. Lots more walls to keep the framerate from dipping, and the levels are a lot smaller with more loading corridors. It certainly didn't feel like Deus Ex to me.

I sold that shit within days of getting it, and I thought it was one worst PC ports of last generation. Best to avoid.
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Greatest game of all time...on PC.

PS2 port was pretty assy if I remember right.
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(05-02-2012, 01:26 PM)

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The Store updates today in here so I'll check it soon.
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Came in expecting a brand-new, 1080p port of the PC version.

Left with a shitty PS2 classic :(
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Why even bother when virtually any PC today could run the original perfectly?

Unless it's a port of the PC version.
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You guys are way too harsh.

I've been dipping into console ports of PC games lately (from all eras but specifically from 1995-2005) and Deus Ex is actually one of the more competent versions. Keep mind that we are spoiled today in that console versions of PC games are typically very accurate, but in the past, this was rarely true. Deus Ex manages to keep much of what made the original game in tact while coupling this with a solid interface. It was a better effort than Invisible War, that's for sure. The loading points were really the largest issue but if you can look past them it's very decent.

The PC version is definitely the way to go, of course, but it's really not as bad as people seem to think.
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Originally Posted by Ein Bear: View Post
Came in expecting a brand-new, 1080p port of the PC version.
Really?
Izick
(05-02-2012, 01:47 PM)

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Yeah, why don't they just make the original a PSN/XBLA game already?
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Was the PS2 port really that bad? It was the first version I played and I don't remember many changes from my other playthoughs on PC.
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Originally Posted by EXGN: View Post
Was the PS2 port really that bad? It was the first version I played and I don't remember many changes from my other playthoughs on PC.
I didn't think it was bad. Probably not the ideal way to experience the game in 2012 though.
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I remember the PS2 cinematics being amazeballs but can't recall much beyond that.

Would make a difference from the pile of shit that gets uploaded to PS2 Classics on PSN every week. I hope EU are getting Max Payne free tomorrow!
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(05-02-2012, 01:56 PM)

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What was the framerate of the PS2 version?
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PS2 version wasn't that bad. It was more limited in some ways but it still provided a satisfying Deus Ex experience.
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Er-the PS2 version is fine, guys. You have to remember: PS2, in 2000-2001. I'm sure if they optimized it later on it would've ran the PC version fine. But they didn't have that know-how at the time and had to make considerations. In that aspect, the port is decent. Is it as great as the PC version? No. But it's tolerable.
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I remember getting extremely annoyed at the load screens back in the day, also the framerate chugged outdoors and the textures were washed out giving the game a bland/blurry look. I can't imagine how it'll feel in 2012 without any updates.
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Originally Posted by daviyoung: View Post
What was the framerate of the PS2 version?
Horrible when any action happened, decent otherwise. Works fine for a stealth run anyway.
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I wouldn't mind picking up a PS2 classic version of it on PSN. The article on Kentie sold me on it being worth experiencing. It also has KB+M support, so I wonder if that'll hold true for this one.
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(05-02-2012, 02:13 PM)
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PS2 version supported mouse+keyboard controls, iiRC.
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Might get it. Never played it before and it won't run on a Mac. I'm not a fussy man.
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I must be bad at the first game because I could barely play the PC one (via Steam). :P

Would like to try with a controller though.
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Wait the Dragon Tooth sword is completely gimped in this version of the game?

That kills any desire to ever touch it.
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Originally Posted by Guerrillas in the Mist: View Post
Why even bother when virtually any PC today could run the original perfectly?

Unless it's a port of the PC version.
I was under the impression that the PC version has loads of compatibility problems with modern hardware.
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Originally Posted by Danne-Danger: View Post
Horrible when any action happened, decent otherwise. Works fine for a stealth run anyway.
Let's not forget that Deus Ex did not run well on PCs back then. Lots of HDD access stutters, poor framerates in large areas, and plenty of lengthy loadtimes.

It's flawless now, of course, but it's not like the PC was breezing through the game or anything.

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I was under the impression that the PC version has loads of compatibility problems with modern hardware.
Not at all. If you use the updated DX9/DX10 renderer it's perfect.
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Originally Posted by Sho_Nuff82: View Post
I was under the impression that the PC version has loads of compatibility problems with modern hardware.
Not at all and it actually gets even better than it ever could have been back in the day if you drop these file in: http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/
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Originally Posted by Sho_Nuff82: View Post
I was under the impression that the PC version has loads of compatibility problems with modern hardware.
Not really; mostly minor quirks like the UI being designed for 640x480 and not scaling correctly, and mods to fix them are readily available.

ED: Beaten by three minutes <_<
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Originally Posted by Sho_Nuff82: View Post
I was under the impression that the PC version has loads of compatibility problems with modern hardware.
It runs stable for me, but there is Kentie's DX10 renderer which should get it running on any system while adding enhancements like parallax occlusion mapping and HDR lighting.

EDIT: beaten so damn bad
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Originally Posted by Stallion Free: View Post
Not at all and it actually gets even better than it ever could have been back in the day if you drop these file in: http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/
Originally Posted by Shadow Hog: View Post
Not really; mostly minor quirks like the UI being designed for 640x480 and not scaling correctly, and mods to fix them are readily available.

ED: Beaten by three minutes <_<
Originally Posted by SparkTR: View Post
It runs stable for me, but there is Kentie's DX10 renderer which should get it running on any system while adding enhancements like parallax occulsion mapping and HDR lighting.

EDIT: beaten so damn bad


I love the dedication.
rollingstart
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(05-02-2012, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by dark10x: View Post
You guys are way too harsh.

I've been dipping into console ports of PC games lately (from all eras but specifically from 1995-2005) and Deus Ex is actually one of the more competent versions. Keep mind that we are spoiled today in that console versions of PC games are typically very accurate, but in the past, this was rarely true. Deus Ex manages to keep much of what made the original game in tact while coupling this with a solid interface. It was a better effort than Invisible War, that's for sure. The loading points were really the largest issue but if you can look past them it's very decent.

The PC version is definitely the way to go, of course, but it's really not as bad as people seem to think.
Agreed. It's actually a nice experience if you're used to DX1. As you said, the loading is the worst part as it's like HL2 or Oblivion loading in open areas; the zones aren't clearly defined, just frequent and random.

The changes are in no way 'minor.' To an extend the game is redesigned for consoles while mostly keeping the flavor intact. It's simplified in ways like removing limb damage. I believe it's one of the few PS2 games to support KB/M too (along with Dirge of Cerberus).
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Originally Posted by dark10x: View Post
Let's not forget that Deus Ex did not run well on PCs back then. Lots of HDD access stutters, poor framerates in large areas, and plenty of lengthy loadtimes.

It's flawless now, of course, but it's not like the PC was breezing through the game or anything.


Not at all. If you use the updated DX9/DX10 renderer it's perfect.
I remember not being able to run Deus Ex in 2005 at a playable framerate on the shitty eMachines PC with integrated graphics that I had. Once I got a PCI graphics card and upped the RAM from 128 MB to 384 MB I was able to play it.
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So wait, all we have is a title? No actual info?

What if it's a reboot and not a port?
UncleSporky
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(05-02-2012, 02:48 PM)
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What a shame.
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all we know is deus ex and PS3. doesn't mention a PS2 classic. that's an assumption by the site that posted this.

for all we know it's DEHD based on the PC version. without a 360 listing though is the only evidence we can go by for it being PS2 classic.
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If it was a reboot or a new port from the PC, we probably would've heard about it before the near-finished game was rated, and it'd be multi-platform.
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I hope it is the PS2 port.
The graphics of the PC version looked closer to a N64 game back then & the PS2 upgraded the shit out of the models.
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Originally Posted by See You Next Wednesday: View Post
I hope it is the PS2 port.
The graphics of the PC version looked closer to a N64 game back then & the PS2 upgraded the shit out of the models.
It downgraded like 30 other things in the process.
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Yeah... Deux Ex: HR sold well right?

I sincerely hope they're making a sequel to that.
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Originally Posted by Stallion Free: View Post
It downgraded like 30 other things in the process.
Would be cool to see the PS2 assets ported over to the PC, though. The models were definitely an improvement.
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it had the best kb+m to controller functionalty of a port of 'busy' game.
i loved the 'activate selected augs' on R1

shame the maps were broken up and the loading was long.
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(05-02-2012, 04:03 PM)
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Great Gif!
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Pretty excited about this. I hope it's the PS2 version as it appears to have enough differences to make the 142nd playthrough fresh. CG cutscenes, non-tetris inventory, new graphics and, uh, smaller levels! Yay!
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Originally Posted by Omikaru: View Post
I thought it was one worst PC ports of last generation. Best to avoid.
Not even close. I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole today, but back then it was decent port with technical changes that had to fit the plateform. But all in all, it was the legitimate DEUS EX experience on a ps2.
If we talk about worst pc ports then this is one takes the crown:
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Platinum trophy or bust!

Still excite though. Let's hope it's the PC-version
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Speaking of which did anything ever come from this Deus Ex HR fan film thing?
Besides Square Enix saying it's "nothing official", I can't find any new info. Maybe they got a C&D order and the project went *poof* :(
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Originally Posted by dark10x: View Post
Would be cool to see the PS2 assets ported over to the PC, though. The models were definitely an improvement.
I'm actually kind of surprised this hadn't happened already, at least with regards to character models. I assume it's some limitation in UnrealEngine1? (But then there are videos of an updated-from-scratch Gunther Hermann, so maybe not...)
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Originally Posted by TheSeks: View Post
Er-the PS2 version is fine, guys. You have to remember: PS2, in 2000-2001. I'm sure if they optimized it later on it would've ran the PC version fine. But they didn't have that know-how at the time and had to make considerations. In that aspect, the port is decent. Is it as great as the PC version? No. But it's tolerable.
That's the thing. I don't want to "tolerate" something that I'm supposed to be enjoying. It better be a straight port of the PC version with updated graphics or nothing at all.
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The Conspiracy was just Deus Ex in Europe, so it will 99% sure be a PS2 Classic.
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Originally Posted by Demigod Mac: View Post
PS2 version supported mouse+keyboard controls, iiRC.
I wonder if they will still work in this rerelease.
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Originally Posted by StevePharma: View Post
Platinum trophy or bust!

Still excite though. Let's hope it's the PC-version
Platinum trophy on a PS2 classic?
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So any new info from anywhere else?

May 1st was yesterday, so unless some sort of time travel paradox was involved with the announcement, it might have been wrong.

I would love for younger people to experience the Deus Ex. The original still blows HR & IW away.