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Member
(05-02-2012, 12:11 PM)
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#8001
Guys, I might have a concern. I bought the Asus P8P67 LE one year ago with a i3-2100. Obviously, the motherboard is a bit on the high side for that CPU but I wanted to have the possibility to upgrade to Ivy Bridge sometimes this year.
Can I actually ? Thanks in advance. |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 12:18 PM)
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#8002
Would check the website just to verify. |
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(05-02-2012, 12:20 PM)
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#8003
So last night I went to bed at 1:30 [slept 4 hours] and came back into work. My new machine is half built [I stopped once I got the radiator for the H100 attached, but not attached to the CPU yet] and I am paranoid about the machine POSTing! I plan on attaching the H100 to the CPU and attaching the PSU temporarily to test the fans in the case and to see if I get any error codes first thing.
I hate stopping in the middle of piecing the hardware. Time to go home yet?! |
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Will use d3doverrider to force triple buffering instead of complaining about mouse lag in every PC game thread ever
(05-02-2012, 12:36 PM)
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#8004
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Member
(05-02-2012, 01:07 PM)
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#8006
What does Power Phase Design mean.
I read it has something to do with over clocking but I'm not sure how to read the numbers. The motherboard I got has a 4+2 phase design. (Asrock z77 Pro4) Is this OK for overclocking? Now I'm not talking about heavy overclocking. But more like getting a i5-3570K to 4.0-4.3 Ghz. |
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(05-02-2012, 03:23 PM)
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#8007
Thanks for all the time you put into the thread, btw.
Last edited by Takuan; 05-02-2012 at 03:47 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 03:31 PM)
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#8008
It Boggles my mind how motherboards seem to get more and more expensive as more and more features are moved off the motherboard and onto the CPU. I'm more tempted to pick up a SNB part than IVB just for the motherboard pricing. Even the decent ASRock Z77 mobos seem to be pushing near $200. Perhaps I just don't look at motherboards often enough and don't remember how much I usually spend on one.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 03:39 PM)
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#8009
Witcher 2 you should be able to max out or nearly max out, but you might have FPS dips if I remember right. BF3 on Ultra I don't think will happen with 60 fps. Your CPU will bottleneck you REALLY bad and really soon with upcoming games and that's one of the reasons I just built my new machine. |
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Will use d3doverrider to force triple buffering instead of complaining about mouse lag in every PC game thread ever
(05-02-2012, 03:44 PM)
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#8010
The Phenom is still enough for most games though. Witcher 2 and BF3 just happen to be two examples of CPU hungry games. |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 03:51 PM)
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#8012
I just looked up CPU benchmarks on Witcher 2 and it does indeed look like CPU scales with FPS. Does anyone know exactly why this is? The witcher 1 wasn't especially open-world and AI heavy. I was surprised considering most PC games are console ports that barely take advantage of 4 cores.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 03:54 PM)
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#8013
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Member
(05-02-2012, 04:07 PM)
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#8014
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Member
(05-02-2012, 04:22 PM)
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#8015
Another day, another delivery.
The Phanteks + An extra fan for it, the 200mm for the case and the 3930k. ![]() All I'm missing is the case, the SSD, a storage HDD and a headamp then my build is a-go. |
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(05-02-2012, 04:42 PM)
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#8016
Ultimately though, they know that just about anyone with SB, SB-E, and Ivy are looking to overclock with how insanely simple it is. The capacitors, VRM, and phase management all need to be decent quality to handle that. If you want a motherboard that isn't designed for any of that, there is always stuff like cheap H67s to get the job done. It's silly to look at high end stuff and say "why are high end boards expensive when there isn't a northbridge anymore?". Northbridge is only a small portion of what a motherboard does.
Last edited by mkenyon; 05-02-2012 at 05:18 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 05:32 PM)
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#8017
It will run at full tilt as Hoos mentioned unless you are connecting it to a Fan Controller in which case you can control the RPM's. My Noiseblocker fans are 4 pin, but they are connected to 3 pin header on the fan controller and they work great.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 05:35 PM)
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#8018
I also have Noiseblockers for my remaining case fans with Scythe Gentle Typhoon's for the fans on the H100. Main reason for going Scythe on the H100 was that the Noiseblockers top out at 2000 RPM and if I wanted to go even higher OC on the CPU I would want to go above 2000 to ensure things stay cool. I am running the Scythe's at 2300 default and it works great with little noise. |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 05:40 PM)
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#8019
CM Cosmos II Intel i7 3930k Phanteks PH-TC14PE + Extra Fan - Red Asus Rampage IV Extreme 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws 2133MHz ( MIGHT get another pair, just for show but just feels like a big waste - Also had to make sure they fit under the Phanteks ) 2 x Palit GTX 680 4GB Jetstream 512GB Samsung 830 + 2 x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 Seasonic SS-1000XP Audiotrak Prodigy Cube ( Might get an XTZ A-800 instead ) Then I have two 750GBs with a ton of my stuff on from my old build. Reason for the fans is the Cosmos II has tons of fan slots but it has a few missing as standard. So on top there's room for a 200mm, then I have a spare 120mm that ships with the case from up there I can use somewhere else. |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 05:45 PM)
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#8020
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Member
(05-02-2012, 05:53 PM)
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#8021
The mobo is really f'n impressive. It is so easy to OC the CPU with that board and there are so many options for the more skilled OC'rs amongst us. I've been at a solid 4.6 for a bit and can easily go to 4.7 which I have not done yet since putting in the Scythe's...actually awaiting 2 more of them to do a push/pull configuration with the H100 and see what the temps are like. What is the memory speed rated on your GPU's? I have yet to see a review of any 4gb GTX 680's and just wondering what the speed the memory runs at on those cards. |
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relies on auto-aim
(05-02-2012, 06:00 PM)
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#8022
New Builds
http://bit.ly/Q2_2012_Haz ![]()
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 - $70AR BIOSTAR TZ77B - $80 AR BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 - $110 AR The BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 really grabbed my attention, you get: CFX/SLI, Virtu MVP,13 Phase PWM, proper 8x/8x PCI-E 3.0. Sure you only get 2x SATA 6gbps and 2x USB3.0 on the back, but... that's pretty solid.
Last edited by Hazaro; 05-02-2012 at 08:23 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:05 PM)
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#8023
Great job Haz...looks really well done. You should do a Uber build as well. You know 2x690's, 3960x, Asus IV Extreme Mobo etc.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:09 PM)
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#8024
Awesome Haz! Thanks for the postings!
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:10 PM)
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#8025
Nice Hazaro, little detail under Extravagant - It says S.Skill.
But yeah, I've heard great things about the motherboard. However, the primary reason why I picked it was due to its slot spacing. The Palits are both 3 slots which takes up a ton of room, so needed something from Asus with 7 slots ( For the space between them ) and it kinda narrowed down my choice big-time. And the memory clock of the Palits are 6300 Mhz |
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relies on auto-aim
(05-02-2012, 06:16 PM)
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#8026
I should probably mention H61/P67 out of box compatibility somewhere... Something to make a note of.
Fixed |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:27 PM)
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#8027
Nice, when my 3770K arrives tomorrow, I'll pretty much have exactly the new Enthusiast build. :)
Intel i7-3770K ASUS Maximus V Gene 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP ASUS GTX 680 Seasonic X750 Fractal Define R3 128GB Crucial M4 Also, noticed this in that build:
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:31 PM)
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#8028
My GTX 570 died on me so I went ahead and started the upgrade process for a few pieces. Picked up;
XFX 7970 Black Edition Intel 520 180gb SSD Corsair AX750 PSU So excited but poor. |
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Junior Member
(05-02-2012, 06:33 PM)
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#8029
I'm currently looking into a new build since the 680's and Ivy Bridge is out. This is going to be a small ITX build so there are a few compromises, but not many. Here are the parts I have in mind so far:
CPU: i7 3770k GPU: eVGA Geforce GTX 680 MB: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB Case: Lian-Li PC-Q08 PSU: Corsair HX650 (still have to determine if I'm confident it will fit ok) HDD: undecided, just looking for a good 1TB drive, SSD too expensive BD-ROM: undecided, just looking for a BluRay reader Any recommendations? I won't be ordering for another week or two. |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 06:36 PM)
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#8030
Nice work on the build list. There's a little error on the Enthusiast build - RAM section shows 4x4GB (8GB) when it should be 4x4GB (16GB).
Edit: Beaten by Zeta. Also, I literally can't find the Asus P8Z77-V LK anywhere in the UK, what's the advantage of it over the LX? |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 07:02 PM)
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#8031
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Junior Member
(05-02-2012, 07:06 PM)
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#8032
Edit - Screw it, pretty sure I don't need a sound card for a pair of Sennheiser HD515s.
Last edited by Karmum; 05-02-2012 at 07:17 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 07:29 PM)
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#8033
Speaking of sound cards. I have a Xonar DX, but I am wondering if I should just stick with on board sound. My motherboard is a P8Z77-V DELUXE.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 07:33 PM)
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#8034
i'll see if i can talk them into sending the parts to me and having me build it and then ship it to them.
Last edited by Lkr; 05-02-2012 at 07:46 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 08:08 PM)
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#8035
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Member
(05-02-2012, 08:21 PM)
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#8036
If you do this using anything more than a low-profile stock Intel heatsink, I would recommend shipping without the heatsink attached; or at least strap the heatsink to solid parts of the case. Definitely don't want a heatsink flying around loose inside the PC if the box gets handled roughly.
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relies on auto-aim
(05-02-2012, 08:26 PM)
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#8037
Yeah I edited the image and links again. I finished it at 1 or 2am, thanks for looking it over.
If you have the card you might as well compare. |
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Junior Member
(05-02-2012, 08:34 PM)
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#8038
Sometimes I wish I could just live in like weather between 30 F - 75 F all year round, never seen my GPU idle in the teens. :o
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Member
(05-02-2012, 08:36 PM)
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relies on auto-aim
(05-02-2012, 08:38 PM)
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#8040
Also I'm looking for a smaller nice quiet case that will fit a larger GPU. Only needs to hold 3 HDDs and an SSD + 2 DVD drives.
My current case has such poor airflow and blocks my legs under my desk it's about time I got a new chair and new case I think. Also I bought that 30nm Samsung memory. Here's hoping it doesn't die in a year. |
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Junior Member
(05-02-2012, 08:40 PM)
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#8041
$10 less now? Lame. :(
The closest Microcenter to me is like over an hour away, living in South Jersey blows. Always. I'd shop there much more often if I lived near one. Edit - Probably going to buy a new (and quiet) case sometime next week, probably on my birthday actually. Corsair 550D, Antec P280 or Fractal R3? Willing to go as high as $140 for the Corsair if it's that much better than the other two. Pretty sure all three are larger than the Antec Three Hundred and should fit both my GTX 460s easily, along with everything else. Move everything and have some proper cable management, everything is currently a mess right now (and has been since August), it was nearly impossible to install my second 460.
Last edited by Karmum; 05-02-2012 at 08:47 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 08:59 PM)
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#8042
No idea why Amazon USA doesn't carry Fractal Design cases but Amazon.co.uk does :( |
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Member
(05-02-2012, 09:12 PM)
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#8043
I'm tempted to jump the ivy 680 train as well :( :) Any words against the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H ? That's the one I was eyeing for so far.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 09:15 PM)
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#8044
Alright, got the first build up and running, installed Windows, everything seems to be fine.
Two things though; both with the motherbord. I got the Asus P8Z68-V LX, and it says it has a slot for USB 3.0 inputs, but for the life of me I cannot find it. A motherboard connector came with the case. Also, the SATA 6.0 inputs are right above the system panel connector, so the white cables that came with the HDD won't fit above them. I currently have them in the 3.0 gbps. All in all it was a fun experience. |
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(05-02-2012, 10:05 PM)
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#8045
Welp, can't find the 3570k anywhere for less than $240 (after tax/shipping), and no local stores carry them. Finally figured out that NCIX doesn't accept US cards either so that will bring the cost of my build up. Will go with a 2500k if no deals pop up in the next couple weeks.
And to think I had a 3570k for $190, less than what a 2500k can be found for now, in my microcenter cart, along with $50 off a z77-v pro, but had an issue with it not being able to verify my shipping address, back when the deal applied online :(
Last edited by MrBig; 05-02-2012 at 10:12 PM.
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Junior Member
(05-02-2012, 10:09 PM)
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#8046
Edit - Stop. $20 rebate on TigerDirect, $209 AR. Free shipping, too. Ah, my bad. Forgot TD doesn't tax in NJ (obviously does where you are). Yeouch.
Last edited by Karmum; 05-02-2012 at 10:16 PM.
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Will use d3doverrider to force triple buffering instead of complaining about mouse lag in every PC game thread ever
(05-02-2012, 10:10 PM)
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#8047
The newer 2TB Hitachi Deskstars seem like really solid choices for game drives...when I move my Samsung F4s over to my media server, they might be my drives of choice for a 2x 2TB RAID 0 setup.
edit: damn, so many Hitachi models. Can't remember which I saw reviewed, but it compared superbly to WD/Seagate/Samsung. Maybe it was the Ultrastar. Here it is: http://www.storagereview.com/hitachi...ds723030ala640 Looking at NewEgg prices...yeah, I'll wait until they're back down where they should be. My main reason for straying from Seagate/WD is that they're cutting warranties from 5 to 1 year, and failure rates across the board are terrible since the floods.
Last edited by TheExodu5; 05-02-2012 at 10:23 PM.
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Member
(05-02-2012, 10:22 PM)
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#8048
This is what I wound up with:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: ASRock H67M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($91.97 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Microcenter) Case: Silverstone SG07-B Mini ITX Desktop Case w/600W Power Supply ($189.00 @ Amazon) Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.00 @ B&H) Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($82.21 @ eCost) Total: $970.14 |
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MagsMoonshine
(05-02-2012, 10:23 PM)
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#8049
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relies on auto-aim
(05-02-2012, 10:41 PM)
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#8050
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