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Massa
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(05-02-2012, 09:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Zero-Crescent

EA Indie Bundle? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Small independent studios making games published by EA are still small independent studios.
kafiend
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(05-02-2012, 11:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Massa

Small independent studios making games published by EA are still small independent studios.

The difference is that lining the pockets of Charities and then Indie devs is nice. Lining the pockets of EA and then Indie devs is fucking horrific.
Aaron
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(05-03-2012, 05:54 AM)
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EA will probably disable those games in a month or so anyway.
HadesGigas
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(05-03-2012, 06:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aaron

EA will probably disable those games in a month or so anyway.

This post was made in error.
zkylon
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(05-03-2012, 06:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by kafiend

The difference is that lining the pockets of Charities and then Indie devs is nice. Lining the pockets of EA and then Indie devs is fucking horrific.

? Since when is it "morally wrong" to buy games from EA altogether?
HadesGigas
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(05-03-2012, 11:06 AM)
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Bundle of Wrong - Pay what you want for:

Squid Yes Not So Octopus: Championship Edition
SYNSO2: Squid Harder Special Edition
SYNSO Arcade (Squid and Let Die)
War Twat
FISHFISHBANGBANG (in development)
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zulux21
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(05-03-2012, 06:52 PM)
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the new indie royale is live

dungeon defenders is definitely the headliner there and is a lot of fun, but there is a ton of dlc out for it now.
kafiend
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(05-03-2012, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by zkylon

? Since when is it "morally wrong" to buy games from EA altogether?

I never said it was morally wrong to buy games from EA.
What I should have said rather than doing it in a couple sentances is that the idea of EA jumping on the Indie bundle bandwagon is a pretty awful thing.

Personally when i see the words "indie" and "bundle" all cuddled up together like that it brings to mind a few words. small, support, help, awareness, future etc etc.

I think that EA are jumping on the "idea" of indie bundles and using it as a tool to profit. So, what? Fine, that's what businesses should do. Whats not fine is hijacking and in many ways bastardizing an idea that at its core is the support of small independant teams of developers and charities.

I'm quite aware that the place where you might draw the line of what exactly constitutes indie is highly flexible but its certainly not EA flexible.

Now, if EA's bundle had 10% to xx charity in there. Or all the proceeds go to our brand new shiny Indie partnership scheme (I made that up BTW) etc etc. then it would be a great thing.

But it doesn't. Its a simple profit exercise at the expense of perverting an idea.
Munin
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(05-03-2012, 07:14 PM)

Originally Posted by zulux21

the new indie royale is live

dungeon defenders is definitely the headliner there and is a lot of fun, but there is a ton of dlc out for it now.

The middle 3 games seem kinda eh, but Weird Worlds is worth the price alone
HoosTrax
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(05-03-2012, 07:15 PM)
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Ugh, I have DunDef already, and not a single one of those other games has much in the way of Metacritic reviews, either good or bad. So it's pretty much an unknown quantity at this point.
Chairmanchuck
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(05-03-2012, 07:18 PM)
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I just wonder if they unlock some DLC for Dungeon Defenders over the course.
zulux21
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(05-03-2012, 08:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chairmanchuck

I just wonder if they unlock some DLC for Dungeon Defenders over the course.

If they do I would imagine it would be stuff like the holiday packs that were originally free if you owned the game but costs a buck or two right now.

There is a very small chance the gender swapped characters would be available... I don't see any of the eternia shards stuff or the barb or series ev stuff being included though.
zkylon
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(05-03-2012, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by kafiend

I never said it was morally wrong to buy games from EA.
What I should have said rather than doing it in a couple sentances is that the idea of EA jumping on the Indie bundle bandwagon is a pretty awful thing.

Personally when i see the words "indie" and "bundle" all cuddled up together like that it brings to mind a few words. small, support, help, awareness, future etc etc.

I think that EA are jumping on the "idea" of indie bundles and using it as a tool to profit. So, what? Fine, that's what businesses should do. Whats not fine is hijacking and in many ways bastardizing an idea that at its core is the support of small independant teams of developers and charities.

I'm quite aware that the place where you might draw the line of what exactly constitutes indie is highly flexible but its certainly not EA flexible.

Now, if EA's bundle had 10% to xx charity in there. Or all the proceeds go to our brand new shiny Indie partnership scheme (I made that up BTW) etc etc. then it would be a great thing.

But it doesn't. Its a simple profit exercise at the expense of perverting an idea.

Oh, alright, I agree there's some truth to that, but I think it's blown a little out of proportion and the word "indie" has a lot of other connotations specially regarding to genre, unique gameplay/story, development costs, low-fi graphics, etc., so I gather it's got more to do with that. Obviously the words "backed by EA" are nowhere near the definition of "indie" but I don't really see this as deceitful or manipulative.
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Haunted
(05-03-2012, 08:56 PM)
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Call me a small-minded cheap asshole, but 5 dollars minimum for completely unknown games (or worse, Tower Defence games) is just... I dunno man. I guess it's above my blind impulse buy threshold.

Some of the bundles I've bought so far consisted of experiences that did not trump those I'm able to have on Newgrounds and Kongregate for free and games I'll never touch again after 5 minutes of play.


1 dollar minimum or pay what you want, though, I still buy without hesitation, even if the games are all bad - must be a psychological thing.
Joe Molotov
(05-03-2012, 09:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by kafiend

I never said it was morally wrong to buy games from EA.
What I should have said rather than doing it in a couple sentances is that the idea of EA jumping on the Indie bundle bandwagon is a pretty awful thing.

Personally when i see the words "indie" and "bundle" all cuddled up together like that it brings to mind a few words. small, support, help, awareness, future etc etc.

I think that EA are jumping on the "idea" of indie bundles and using it as a tool to profit. So, what? Fine, that's what businesses should do. Whats not fine is hijacking and in many ways bastardizing an idea that at its core is the support of small independant teams of developers and charities.

I'm quite aware that the place where you might draw the line of what exactly constitutes indie is highly flexible but its certainly not EA flexible.

Now, if EA's bundle had 10% to xx charity in there. Or all the proceeds go to our brand new shiny Indie partnership scheme (I made that up BTW) etc etc. then it would be a great thing.

But it doesn't. Its a simple profit exercise at the expense of perverting an idea.

It's just a bundle of games on Steam, like Steam does all the time at Christmas or Summer or whenever they feel like it. This bundle is all of EA's "indie" games. Whether you think they're really indie or not is another discussion, but they're not out to get you. There's no deception here, you can buy 6 games for $20, you can buy the individual games for half-off, or you can rage against the machine and not buy anything. Goodness knows I love any good excuse to hate EA, but slow your roll a bit.
Munin
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(05-03-2012, 09:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Haunted

Call me a small-minded cheap asshole, but 5 dollars minimum for completely unknown games (or worse, Tower Defence games) is just... I dunno man. I guess it's above my blind impulse buy threshold.

Some of the bundles I've bought so far consisted of experiences that did not trump those I'm able to have on Newgrounds and Kongregate for free and games I'll never touch again after 5 minutes of play.


1 dollar minimum or pay what you want, though, I still buy without hesitation, even if the games are all bad - must be a psychological thing.


Dungeon Defenders and Weird Worlds are fantastic (and the latter usually goes for like 20 bucks)
AppleMIX
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(05-03-2012, 09:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by kafiend

Personally when i see the words "indie" and "bundle" all cuddled up together like that it brings to mind a few words. small, support, help, awareness, future etc etc.

I think that EA are jumping on the "idea" of indie bundles and using it as a tool to profit. So, what? Fine, that's what businesses should do. Whats not fine is hijacking and in many ways bastardizing an idea that at its core is the support of small independant teams of developers and charities.

This is a non-issue. Steam has had several non-charity indie bundles before during sales.
Popstar
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(05-03-2012, 09:58 PM)
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Someone got a quote from one of the developers about the whole EA releasing an 'indie' pack thing.


Originally Posted by partial quote

“In a nutshell, I think it’s a silly and confusing name to call the bundle”, Jamie told us. “We approved the bundle but were never informed what they were calling it or I’d definitely have asked them to change it.”

...

“If you break it down, it “technically” makes sense,” Jamie continued. “EA published a bunch of cool games made by independent developers, but it’s easy to construe it as a trying to cash in on the indie label. The fact is these games may never have been made without their support, so I think it’s unfortunate that there’s backlash on it — better to applaud them as one of the few publishers that have let developers retain ownership of the IP!”

Full thing in link.

My own personal definition of what I consider 'indie' as opposed to simply 'independent' is fairly straightforward. Does everyone at the developer spend the majority of their time working directly on the game? No office managers, assistant producers, CFOs or whatever. Is so, then indie. I don't think it's the best name when they have EA plastered on it, but it doesn't really bother me.
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TheNamelessOne
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(05-03-2012, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by zulux21

the new indie royale is live

dungeon defenders is definitely the headliner there and is a lot of fun, but there is a ton of dlc out for it now.

Another bundle I won't be buying since I'm only slightly interested in Dungeon Defenders.
Gvaz
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(05-03-2012, 10:44 PM)
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I bought it for Dungeon Defenders alone, since at least two of my friends have the game and I want to play with them.
Drkirby
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(05-03-2012, 11:00 PM)
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I may grab it if they include some of the DLC for Dungeon Defenders, but I own two of the Steam games, and the other two don't look that great.



Also, the ??? bundle, if you hover over it, is called "The Graduation Bundle"
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Zero-Crescent
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(05-03-2012, 11:07 PM)
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No thread for the Indie Royale yet? I guess I'll make it.

EDIT: Done.
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Wok
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(05-03-2012, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drkirby

Also, the ??? bundle, if you hover over it, is called "The Graduation Bundle"

Interesting. I would bet on a bundle containing some of the games listed on indieDB with a release set for end of May or first week of June. I would be okay with SWAP being included.
Gvaz
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(05-03-2012, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zero-Crescent

No thread for the Indie Royale yet? I guess I'll make it.

EDIT: Done.

You don't need this because we already have this one.
Wok
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(05-03-2012, 11:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gvaz

You don't need this because we already have this one.

As long as the mega thread stays alive, I am okay with people doing other more specific threads to bring some publicity to the bundles.
Gvaz
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(05-03-2012, 11:26 PM)
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You all should be subbed to threads and read them when you get updates
Joe Molotov
(05-03-2012, 11:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gvaz

You all should be subbed to threads and read them when you get updates

Turning on the setting to auto-sub to any thread you post in is the only way to browse GAF.
chubigans
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(05-04-2012, 12:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gvaz

You don't need this because we already have this one.

Nope, otherwise this turns into a mega-thread and it gets locked.
AndyD
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(05-04-2012, 01:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Munin

The middle 3 games seem kinda eh, but Weird Worlds is worth the price alone

Weird Worlds is what I am interested in the most. Maybe I can buy standalaone.
Gvaz
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(05-04-2012, 01:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by chubigans

Nope, otherwise this turns into a mega-thread and it gets locked.

I check the thread table like once a month, so if it's not posted in a "mega thread" I'd never find out about it.
HadesGigas
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(05-04-2012, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gvaz

I check the thread table like once a month, so if it's not posted in a "mega thread" I'd never find out about it.

Like is said every damn time this comes up, it's not an either or thing. Someone can post it here, someone can make a thread for it.
Fredescu
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(05-04-2012, 01:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gvaz

You don't need this because we already have this one.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to what the mods have been saying. The only way this thread stays alive is if people post new threads as well.
MRORANGE
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(05-04-2012, 02:39 AM)
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OP updated.
Kuroyume
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(05-04-2012, 10:46 PM)
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Indie Royale has already sold more bundles than Indie Gala. Lol... Btw, it's Happy Hour now.
Wok
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(05-05-2012, 12:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by chubigans

Oh wow, that's interesting. I thought it was still in a "beta" type format.

I posted the following message in the Steam thread. But here it is again as it is related to indie bundles.

There is a survey about the HIB bundles and store by Frozenbyte, with a lottery for Trine 2. It is really easy and fast to fill out.

chubigans
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(05-05-2012, 05:27 PM)
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I thought the Indie Gala happy hour was literally an hour long, but apparently it's still going.

Originally Posted by Wok

I posted the following message in the Steam thread. But here it is again as it is related to indie bundles.

Ah, thanks!
Wok
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(05-05-2012, 08:55 PM)
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There will be a bundle late June, made by game devs from Reddit. It will be composed of:
Hop
That girl in the bunny hat
(05-05-2012, 10:08 PM)
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So as I indicated a little while ago, I've been working on a music bundle. It's now live, through the 19th.

Indie Allstars

This is just a 'soft' launch right at the moment because DNS is really acting up. So you might get an error message instead of the site, but that should (read: damn well better) clear up in a few hours.

But anyway, this is a set of 10 independent albums that don't suck. Several are related to video games (whether by topic or by being in games), many aren't, all of them are different and interesting. I think so, anyway. There's a sampler on the page, run off of our Bandcamp page, so you can get an idea of all the artists involved.

Pay what you want, a portion goes to EFF and/or VH1 Save the Music. The bands/albums are:

Pac-Man Fever by Buckner & Garcia (novelty/pop)
Yours As Fast As Mine by The Main Drag (indie pop)
The Silent City by Stagehands (rock musical)
PPPPPP: The VVVVVV Soundtrack by Magnus 'SoulEye' Palsson (soundtrack/chiptune)
Noplace Like Nowhere by Jim's Big Ego (alternative)
When the Dust Settles by The Parlor Soldiers (country)
The Darker the Sky Is, The Brighter the Stars Shine by Jonay (hip-hop)
Mo'Fi by Crooked Saws (blues-rock)
Lactophilia by Leche de Tigre (Latin folk)
Paths of the Restless by Cosmonauts Day (post-metal)

Beat the average gets you FLAC copies as well as:

Wartime Songs by The Blue News (blues)
Gravity by Diggs Duke (soul)
self-titled EP by Dance for the Dying (dance pop)
self-titled EP by Mafia Track Suit (power-pop)
Be My Guest by Through a Glass, Darkly (folk rock, featuring Gaffer D.Lo!)

I'll make a thread in OT once I'm more confident the DNS is thoroughly propagated.
Starwolf_UK
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(05-06-2012, 01:29 PM)
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So Indiegala have added lots of surprise music. All beat the average, mind so why its 2 sections I do not know...
tsab
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(05-06-2012, 09:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Charron

So as I indicated a little while ago, I've been working on a music bundle. It's now live, through the 19th.

Indie Allstars

This is just a 'soft' launch right at the moment because DNS is really acting up. So you might get an error message instead of the site, but that should (read: damn well better) clear up in a few hours.

But anyway, this is a set of 10 independent albums that don't suck. Several are related to video games (whether by topic or by being in games), many aren't, all of them are different and interesting. I think so, anyway. There's a sampler on the page, run off of our Bandcamp page, so you can get an idea of all the artists involved.

Pay what you want, a portion goes to EFF and/or VH1 Save the Music. The bands/albums are:


Beat the average gets you FLAC copies as well as:


I'll make a thread in OT once I'm more confident the DNS is thoroughly propagated.

I dont understand how you pay. Slide doesnt work on my android browsers
Hop
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(05-06-2012, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by tsab

I dont understand how you pay. Slide doesnt work on my android browsers

After you put in your email, a little slider should appear (that's actually the captcha). I honestly don't know if that'll work on mobile, I honestly didn't expect mobile buyers. >_<
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(05-06-2012, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Charron

So as I indicated a little while ago, I've been working on a music bundle. It's now live, through the 19th.

Indie Allstars

Very decent little bundle. I laughed a bit at Buckner and Garcia.
Hop
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(05-06-2012, 10:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

Very decent little bundle. I laughed a bit at Buckner and Garcia.

Hey, that got Joystiq to cover it, I'd say it was a worthwhile investment. :)

(And is it ok that I make a thread for it? I know Evilore's a bit nonplussed about self-promo threads and I'd rather not piss anyone off.)
tsab
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(05-06-2012, 11:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Charron

After you put in your email, a little slider should appear (that's actually the captcha). I honestly don't know if that'll work on mobile, I honestly didn't expect mobile buyers. >_<

That's discriminating I tells ya. :P
Worked fine from PC.
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(05-07-2012, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Charron

So as I indicated a little while ago, I've been working on a music bundle. It's now live, through the 19th.

Indie Allstars

This is just a 'soft' launch right at the moment because DNS is really acting up. So you might get an error message instead of the site, but that should (read: damn well better) clear up in a few hours.

But anyway, this is a set of 10 independent albums that don't suck. Several are related to video games (whether by topic or by being in games), many aren't, all of them are different and interesting. I think so, anyway. There's a sampler on the page, run off of our Bandcamp page, so you can get an idea of all the artists involved.

Pay what you want, a portion goes to EFF and/or VH1 Save the Music. The bands/albums are:


Beat the average gets you FLAC copies as well as:


I'll make a thread in OT once I'm more confident the DNS is thoroughly propagated.


just a few things you could fix make better for the download process.
  • Torrent Tracker
  • Support for simultaneous dowloads from the server
  • Report filesizes
Hop
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(05-07-2012, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by tsab

just a few things you could fix make better for the download process.

  • Torrent Tracker
  • Support for simultaneous dowloads from the server
  • Report filesizes

The tracker, I'd have to talk to my ISP or webhost. Getting that set up was a bit prohibitive at first, I can't even seed off my home computers.

The other two, I have no idea why that's happening, I'm blaming Amazon. (They're hosting the files.)
Tess3ract
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(05-07-2012, 07:26 PM)
Can't even load the page haha.
Rothkildam
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(05-07-2012, 10:26 PM)
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New IndieFaceKick (May 25th): http://youtu.be/sB2syupQOlE
zulux21
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(05-07-2012, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rothkildam

New IndieFaceKick (May 25th): http://youtu.be/sB2syupQOlE

Does anyone know what games were featured in that trailer. I don't recognize any of them.
The one I am most interested in knowing what it was is this one.
Wok
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(05-07-2012, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by zulux21

Does anyone know what games were featured in that trailer. I don't recognize any of them.

The first one might be Depth Hunter.

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

Depth Hunter isn't on Steam, is it?

Only on Desura... for now.
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