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(05-07-2012, 04:53 PM)
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#151
For the OP: http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html general guidlines for what I said. I insist ye take a look over this list. However, everyone's bodies are different. you could cut in some peanut butter and beans. just try to do what works for ya. edit: cant believe i forgot. START HAVING UR GF EAT AVOCADOS. dont ask why, ensure u do this!!
Last edited by Turok_TTZ; 05-07-2012 at 04:59 PM.
Reason: cant believe i forgot this
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(05-07-2012, 04:53 PM)
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#152
This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.
To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance. To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance. You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all. Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time. So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat. |
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(05-07-2012, 04:58 PM)
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#153
So, Ithought of something else. Wonder why I didn't think about it.
Instead of finding an ideal weight, she should be looking for an ideal body fat percentage. Some links to help you estimate current body fat% http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/librar...calculator.htm http://www.leighpeele.com/body-fat-p...nd-percentages It doesn't really matter that you're using an inaccurate measurement. What's important is that you're maintain consistent with your measuring method. For example, going from measuring tape to BODPOD measurements is not useful at all.
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Begging the question
One post at a time (05-07-2012, 04:59 PM)
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#154
Super simple to lose weight. Cut calories and do at least 1 hour of cardio 5 days a week. I went from 235 pounds to 160 pounds by doing between 80 minutes to 120 minutes of cardio 6 days a week within 1 year and have kept it off ever since (started in 2004).
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(05-07-2012, 05:04 PM)
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#156
Last edited by storafötter; 05-07-2012 at 05:07 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 05:05 PM)
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#157
OP, I would suggest posting your original post in the Fitness thread as well:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431741 You'll probably get more streamlined responses in that thread. |
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(05-07-2012, 05:09 PM)
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#159
I'm just going to toss my opinion on the pile:
1) Vegetables are fine, you can basically eat as many as you want and they will not hurt you as long as you're still getting enough fat/protein from other parts of your diet. 2) Fruits are good, but not in excess. 2-3 servings a day is plenty. Fructose is relatively destructive to the body and the only reason fruits are acceptable to eat is because of the fiber, which helps mitigate the negative effects of fructose. Additionally, there are some phytochemicals found (in veggies as well) that may or may not be beneficial to human health; the verdict is still somewhat "out there" on those. 3) Fats are fine too, and actually needed. Poly/mono-unsaturated fats are the best, artificial trans fats are the worst, and saturated fats are somewhere in between; if it's a natural saturated fats, odds are it's ok, if it's some highly processed shit, probably not so ok. 4) If she can stick to a caloric deficit for ~3-4 months, something like 500 calories below the calculated maintenance level you discussed earlier, she'll lose ~1 lb a week. At the end of the 3-4 months, she can go back to eating maintenance and most likely that weight will stay off, although her maintenance level will be lower than it was at her original weight. 5) I don't know much about P90X/Insanity, but as long as she's doing a decent amount of weight training in combination with cardio (and stretching) she should see fat loss and muscle gains. Remember, as she builds muscle she'll gain weight, even if she's losing fat, so it may not show on the scale. The best measurement are your own eyes/photographs over time. Also, to Turok_TTZ, I'd like to see some sources for the "legumes are bad" thing. It's news to me and I'm always interested in learning new things. |
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(05-07-2012, 05:14 PM)
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#161
I buy a lot of the claims of the paleo diet. I've used my own variation of it to lose quite a bit of weight. I don't follow it religiously at all, but I've kept my nutritional proportions in a similar range for long periods of time and I'm getting good results. During certain times I've been more strict to the point where my diet could almost be comparable to the Atkins diet, and I've mixed in intermittent fasting and all sorts of tricks to help get past plataeus, but generally the paleo diet has been my main inspiration.
But anyway, I don't think the claims about legumes are valid at all, at least not for peanuts. Peanuts and peanut butter are very high in fiber, protein, and fats while being low in carbs. They should be an excellent snack food for somebody trying to lose weight. I eat them all the time and they haven't caused me any problems. If you have an allergy to peanuts or if you have trouble digesting certain legumes, that's obviously a different situation, but otherwise, I don't think there is any problem with eating them in moderation. Some legumes have such high carb totals that even with the fiber they could potentially cause a bad insulin spike if you eat too many, but that's a question of proportions, and peanuts are very low carb.
Last edited by Krowley; 05-07-2012 at 05:20 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 05:17 PM)
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#162
One example: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/aflat...#axzz1uCo114co I prefer almonds/almond butter anyway.
Last edited by Zefah; 05-07-2012 at 05:23 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 05:23 PM)
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#164
Last edited by malyce; 05-07-2012 at 05:27 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 05:29 PM)
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(05-07-2012, 05:34 PM)
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(05-07-2012, 05:34 PM)
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#169
One other thing...
Personally, I decided to save working out until I had lost quite a bit of weight. I was really heavy and I would have probably injured myself if I had started working out right away. And also, I knew that working out would cause muscle gains, which might make it harder to determine if my diet was working. I didn't want to deal with the psychological hassle of trying to keep my motivation up when the scale wasn't moving much. You can still lose weight and improve your health without increasing exercise just by changing your diet, and your girlfriend would probably actually lose faster if she stopped exercising, which might help her stay motivated. I lost 40 pounds without adding any exercise at all. I was very big, but that's still a lot of weight, and I could have kept going without adding any exercise. I just felt like the time was right. When I finally started exercising, my weight loss immediately slowed down quite a bit, and I also started having problems with my body trying to adjust to added exercise while I was in a calorie deficit. My immune system went to hell. I started catching something new every week, staying sick all the time, and I was achy all the time with very little energy. I had to actually reduce the intensity and frequency of my workout to get everything back into balance. Just something to consider. Different people have different results, so I'm not saying this would happen to your girlfriend but staying on my diet was a heck of a lot easier before I started including exercise. The exercise--mostly light weight training with sledgehammers and dumbells--has shown benefits and it's paying off now, but there is a tradeoff to think about.
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(05-07-2012, 05:36 PM)
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#170
My advice is what I have been doing (lost 33 lbs so far in a year, 23 since Jan). Cut down on carbs (no need to go crazy low carb, but keep them under 100), eat more fresh fruit (not Apples) and veggies. For me dinner is usually chicken and some kind of roasted veggie, or eggs with turkey bacon/sausage and veggies. Eat almonds as snacks. Work out. Drink almond milk. |
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#172
I wouldn't depend on a backyard pool for meaningful workouts. Such a small distance just wouldnt be as fulfuilling as even a small lane pool in a gym. Of course the most ideal would be 25 yards at a minimum.
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(05-07-2012, 05:41 PM)
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#174
Don't give into these low carb things or any of these weird paleo things. She must simply clean up her diet of processed foods and get regular exercise, meaning like 30 minutes every day. High Intensity Interval training can be made fun and is very effective.
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(05-07-2012, 05:42 PM)
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#175
Are you sure she is telling you everything she is eating?
My ex wife had problems after our third child...but it turns out that sperm has like 7 calories a load...and she was a cheating whore...so I figured she was consuming at least 700 extra calories a day on the side.... |
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(05-07-2012, 05:43 PM)
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#176
BTW, I lost over a 100 pounds doing this over a 9 month period in 2009 and I have relatives who have lost 15-30 pounds just over a few months doing the same thing. I've been at the same weight now since September 2009 but my waist continues to shrink and I keep getting stronger. It works.
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Will use d3doverrider to force triple buffering instead of complaining about mouse lag in every PC game thread ever
(05-07-2012, 05:43 PM)
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#177
Two weeks isn't enough. I went on a lowish (100) carb diet last summer and my weight would plateau for 2 weeks, and I'd suddenly drop like 8 pounds the following week.
Also, if she's drinking a lot of water, she might just be retaining more water weight. If she were to empty out her carb reserves, she'd probably drop 5+ lbs.
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Pride of Iowa State
(05-07-2012, 05:43 PM)
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#178
You guys should do P90, or P90X together! You can eat decently and have weight come off in a healthy way, and gain some muscle.
*Shameless plug* http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459109 |
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(05-07-2012, 05:44 PM)
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#179
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(05-07-2012, 05:45 PM)
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#180
Yeah eating and acting like our bodies have evolved to over millions of years is weird.
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(05-07-2012, 05:46 PM)
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#181
so 1700 cals a day is starving yourself? |
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(05-07-2012, 05:46 PM)
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#182
Simply keep at it everyday and judge not by weight loss, but how much better your body feels. |
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(05-07-2012, 05:48 PM)
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#185
If you cut calories a lot and exercise harder, you will get results, but that takes gargantuan willpower because you are going against everything your body is telling you to do. And eventually, almost everybody loses that battle.
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Will use d3doverrider to force triple buffering instead of complaining about mouse lag in every PC game thread ever
(05-07-2012, 05:49 PM)
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#186
Yup. It's simply habit more than anything. Eat only what you need, and when you're hungry, not to satisfy your tastebuds. Drink water or eat very low calory foods if you really need to much on something (snow peas are great).
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(05-07-2012, 05:51 PM)
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#187
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(05-07-2012, 05:52 PM)
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#188
Have cheat days. Try eating more.
v Also this. Didn't peruse the diet.
Last edited by Septimius; 05-07-2012 at 06:06 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 05:57 PM)
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#189
fat intake is too damn high based off that relatively light diet. almost half of that diet is based off of shit thats high in fat. That's not to say fat is terrible and you should never eat it, but with such a light diet like that, which has very little amount of protein or complex carbs and a high amount of fat(peanut butter, almonds, avocados, cheese, eggs, and pure butter), you're not going to be that efficient in lowering your fat percentage losing weight. I can't even say that she is for sure gaining muscle as there's next to no protein in that diet.
Pretty much, that diet sucks. Less calories doesn't equal efficient weight loss. |
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(05-07-2012, 05:59 PM)
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#191
Keep eating high fat, but also eat high protein. no-low carbs. Weight will drop off Need to combine with exercise though. Been there done that |
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(05-07-2012, 06:05 PM)
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#192
I don't think you know what paleo is.
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(05-07-2012, 06:05 PM)
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#193
It's not fat, it's mass.
![]() But seriously, I can only echo what a few people have said here. 1) you'll hit plateaus 2) the scale only tells her how much she ways and not the components of that weight or her overall health 3) it'll take a while. Tell her to keep up the good work and if you haven't already done so, consider making it a couples activity. |
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(05-07-2012, 06:08 PM)
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#194
Last edited by bangladesh; 05-07-2012 at 06:12 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 06:10 PM)
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#196
I understand not reading all the replies, but the OP mentions she's doing Insanity and having an avocado and then multiple people are like eat avocados! Go to the gym!
Seriously people. For the record, I can't imagine eating such a bland diet all the time.. poor thing. :( |
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this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
(05-07-2012, 06:13 PM)
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#197
It's always better to make your own dressings with olive oil, garlic, vinegar, and guess what, it speeds up your metabolism too. Oh yes, and stay away from bread and gluten.
Last edited by SMT; 05-07-2012 at 06:22 PM.
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(05-07-2012, 06:18 PM)
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#199
It's actually not and we are in college so options are limited. Thanks for your input though.
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(05-07-2012, 06:20 PM)
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#200
Humans do not have an enzyme (or any microorganism that does in symbiosis) to break down cellulose, but yet humans were still capable of eating fruits and vegetables in pre-agrarian times. Just because humans today in western societies are fat and unhealthy, doesn't mean all post-agrarian civilizations in history had unhealthy diets. Today though, with industrial processing, grains and many foods are of course different - but going to the extreme of a paleo-diet because that is what paleolithic humans ate is a bit ridiculous. For the record, I have no problem with the paleo-diet. If you have the commitment to do it, by all means. I haven't found any major risks to the diet. It's just the "evolutionary" reasoning behind it is a bit hyperbolic.
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