[LiK]

I wonder if the Avengers' success will drive DC/Warner to speed up development on a Justice League or Superman/Batman movie? Superman/Batman would peak my interest way more.

i dunno about speed but if DKR doesn't beat Avengers, WB/DC is gonna take a real close look at Marvel's strategy.

[RubxQub]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

[megashock5]

- Iron Man + Thor's Lightning = 400% energy capacity. When IM was running out of juice at the end, I expected Thor to give him a re-charge.

Now that you mention it, I thought they would end up using that later as well - but I forgot about it until now. Maybe in Avengers 2?

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

Not being facetious, serious question - did you see Thor? Odin put a charm or spell on it that only the one worthy could lift it.

[Divvy]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

Mjolnir can only be picked up by those it deems worthy.

[Dreams-Visions]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

Because only those deemed worthy by the hammer can lift Mjolnir. It's a hex Odin put on the hammer in the Thor film.

[Mikasangelos]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

Hes not in space.

[Solo]

Now is the PERFECT time for WB to try and "pull a Marvel", if they want.

- Nolan's Batman is over in 2 months
- Superman is just getting its reboot and could function As the Iron Man 1 for DC, the lead-in to the JLA stuff
- the rest of the franchises are dead or have never been explored

So basically they have a blank slate.

[LiK]

One thing about this movie I was surprised about was the lack of events in the movie coming back in the climax, Chekov's gun style. - Captain's Shield + Thor's Hammer = big explosion. But they don't use this ability during the giant alien invasion. - Iron Man + Thor's Lightning = 400% energy capacity. When IM was running out of juice at the end, I expected Thor to give him a re-charge. That didn't happen either. Not a negative, just something I noticed.

-that wouldn't work well cuz Thor got blown away by it.

-Thor wouldn't know when Iron Man was running outta juice at the time, me thinks.

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

he's not worthy yet. Hulk managed to pick it up in the comics tho. Avengers 2 potential.

[lawblob]

The entire ending fight sequence occurred about 100ft from my front door. It was pretty hilarious walking out of the theatre and immediately into the 'war zone.' Im' actually really interested to get the BluRay to see if my building was in any of the shots.

Movie was completely bad ass, im' amazed they pulled it all together like that.

GTA IV > next gen engine > Hulk as protagonist > take my money

[RobbieNick]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

I guess you never saw the Thor movie. Only someone really worthy can yield Thor's hammer. Maybe Captain America.

[StrikerObi]

One thing about this movie I was surprised about was the lack of events in the movie coming back in the climax, Chekov's gun style. - Captain's Shield + Thor's Hammer = big explosion. But they don't use this ability during the giant alien invasion. - Iron Man + Thor's Lightning = 400% energy capacity. When IM was running out of juice at the end, I expected Thor to give him a re-charge. That didn't happen either. Not a negative, just something I noticed.

I expected both of these things too. They seemed incredibly telegraphed to me, and when they didn't show up I kinda scratched my head. Whedon must have had the same idea, so my guess these follow-up scenes were shot but edited out for time, which stinks.

Mjolnir can only be picked up by those it deems worthy.

I saw Thor, but I still don't understand this. From what I understand, there is no magic in the world of Thor. It's just sufficiently advanced science that appears to be magic if you aren't as evolved. And you can explain basically every part of Thor's technology with that, except this "charm". How can the hammer look into the soul of the person to determine if they are worthy? It could be coded to only be picked up by Thor (via a DNA check) but how can the hammer know Thor is ready for the power?

I suppose the answer is that the hammer is so scientifically advanced that it can actually figure out if a person is "worthy" and then unlock itself to that person. But that just sounds like bullshit to me. I guess because I am not sufficiently evolved.

[RubxQub]

Mjolnir can only be picked up by those it deems worthy.

Because only those deemed worthy by the hammer can lift Mjolnir. It's a hex Odin put on the hammer in the Thor film.

Implication being that sheer strength alone could NEVER pick up the hammer? Magic overrules raw physical strength?

[Dreams-Visions]

Implication being that sheer strength alone could NEVER pick up the hammer? Magic overrules raw physical strength?

that would be correct.

[Tobor]

Another dumb question, but why couldn't Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of ... Thor

Hulk's not worthy.

[LiK]

I guess you never saw the Thor movie. Only someone really worthy can yield Thor's hammer. Maybe Captain America.

Cap also managed to pick up the hammer in the comics. Avengers 2 potential part 2. ;)

[Messypandas]

I loved that Hulk couldn't pick up mjolnir but a little detail that irked me was it bouncing in the forest when it fell out of Thor's hand. Wish it fell with a little more purpose

[Dreams-Visions]

Cap also managed to pick up the hammer in the comics. Avengers 2 potential part 2. ;)

Cap is quite worthy.

I loved that Hulk couldn't pick up mjolnir but a little detail that irked me was it bouncing in the forest when it fell out of Thor's hand. Wish it fell with a little more purpose

well it's not like Mjolnir is supposed to be 1,000lbs or something. It's just got a hex on it that makes it unwieldable by the unworthy.

[Dram]

I've read that Nolan isn't a big fan of a shared universe concept for superhero movies. Since he's a producer on the new Superman movie, he may not allow any Justice League teasers to happen.

[Tobor]

Now is the PERFECT time for WB to try and "pull a Marvel", if they want. - Nolan's Batman is over in 2 months - Superman is just getting its reboot and could function As the Iron Man 1 for DC, the lead-in to the JLA stuff - the rest of the franchises are dead or have never been explored So basically they have a blank slate.

Agreed, assuming Man of Steel is any good and connects with audiences.

[SmithnCo]

I've read that Nolan isn't a big fan of a shared universe concept for superhero movies. Since he's a producer on the new Superman movie, he may not allow any Justice League teasers it to happen.

I also read last year that Snyder said the movie won't have anything to do with the JL.

[Messypandas]

I've read that Nolan isn't a big fan of a shared universe concept for superhero movies. Since he's a producer on the new Superman movie, he may not allow any Justice League teasers it to happen.

He thinks a shared universe with his vision of Batman is obviously absurd. Superman is probably fair game

[Manmademan]

They can use Scarlet Witch if they want to, Feige confirmed it. That said, her power doesn't make a lot of sense on film.

her power doesn't make sense in the comics either. but it's easy enough to dumb down into "magic" or generic energy powers if they really want to use her. Marvel does it constantly.

I also read last year that Snyder said the movie won't have anything to do with the JL.

with the crazy money marvel made with these films and the Avengers strategy, it would take all of fifteen minutes to put together an "after credits" teaser that would lead into a possible justice league film with Man Of Steel. If warner wants JL to happen bad enough, it will happen.

[ohhthegore]

Uh, what about Alan Tudyk? Dude has RANGE and is actually pretty ripped.

this guy definetly should be in more films

[Solo]

I've read that Nolan isn't a big fan of a shared universe concept for superhero movies. Since he's a producer on the new Superman movie, he may not allow any Justice League teasers to happen.

Movie studios are reactionary. You can bet your ass that if WB wants to get into the Marvel model, they will, regardless of Nolan's opinion on the matter.

[LiK]

her power doesn't make sense in the comics either. but it's easy enough to dumb down into "magic" or generic energy powers if they really want to use her. Marvel does it constantly.

indeed, it makes as much sense as Doctor Strange. i think they'll figure it out.

[Sblargh]

Here's my crazy idea to make the ant-man interesting enough:
Forget Pym and make Cassandra Lang the lesbian wife of the Wasp.

[RichardAM]

her power doesn't make sense in the comics either. but it's easy enough to dumb down into "magic" or generic energy powers if they really want to use her. Marvel does it constantly.

That's my big worry with Thanos- having him and the Skrulls exist kinda just blows it wide open so much so that magic doesn't really have to be disguised as "Super Awesome Technology".

After what they've done with the Thanos reveal i'd say anything's possible in the films' universe now- Ant-Man, Doctor Strange and Scarlett Witch should all be easy to slide into place?

[Izick]

I think there was even a topic on here about the subject, but as someone who has never read comics, or at least not that much at all, where the hell does someone even start?

[Divvy]

I hope they have full face masks for antman. Don't want to see skin pores the size of people.

[LiK]

I think there was even a topic on here about the subject, but as someone who has never read comics, or at least not that much at all, where the hell does someone even start?

might be kinda cheap but Wikipedia and the official bios on Marvel.com is a good start.

[RubxQub]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions!

During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

[Dreams-Visions]

Well he is in the air force and he is stationed on the west coast. So he would only logically show up at the end of the movie. Even then I dont think he would make it there in time, well maybe to chow down with them.

I mean, they went and got Banner from fucking India. And Widow from Russia.

SHIELD certainly could have made a phone call to wherever Cheadle's character was stationed. But w/e. They didn't need him though, so it was fine. To deal with someone like Thanos, I expect all hands on deck.

[Divvy]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions! During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

Widow's bite. She used them to shock Chitauri soldiers.

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I mean, they went and got Banner from fucking India. And Widow from Russia. SHIELD certainly could have made a phone call to wherever Cheadle's character was stationed. But w/e. They didn't need him though, so it was fine. To deal with someone like Thanos, I expect all hands on deck.

I really really LOVED the call that General got. It was so good.

[Mikasangelos]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions! During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

Black Widows suit.

[Tobor]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions! During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

That was Black Widow. She used it to zap a Chitauri in the face.

[LuCkymoON]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions! During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

That was the Black Widow's wrist armaments. although I don't she used them.

That was Black Widow. She used it to zap a Chitauri in the face.

ahhh I must have blinked during that scene lol

[Darryl]

I think there was even a topic on here about the subject, but as someone who has never read comics, or at least not that much at all, where the hell does someone even start?

I was told to start with House of M & Civil War. Apparently they set the stage for a lot of what is happening now, or something. No personal experience, but I'm in the same boat as you.

[LiK]

Let me just keep asking dumb questions! During the "suit-up" scene (I believe in prep to the final confrontation), they showed someone with a black armband or glove that had what looked like blue energy tracers that connected to two blue dots in the palm. Was that Hawkeye's glove or something? What was that?!

like everyone says. here's a nice closeup.

[Trojita]

there are phone clips of the Shawarma scene online. look around.

It isn't the same as watching it after the movie unfortunately :(

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I was told to start with House of M & Civil War. Apparently they set the stage for a lot of what is happening now, or something. No personal experience, but I'm in the same boat as you.

I'd start with The Ultimates. 3 Issues in and it's pretty good so far. Captain America one I'm reading now is good (it's just him), but good.

[TheOMan]

I expected both of these things too. They seemed incredibly telegraphed to me, and when they didn't show up I kinda scratched my head. Whedon must have had the same idea, so my guess these follow-up scenes were shot but edited out for time, which stinks. I saw Thor, but I still don't understand this. From what I understand, there is no magic in the world of Thor. It's just sufficiently advanced science that appears to be magic if you aren't as evolved. And you can explain basically every part of Thor's technology with that, except this "charm". How can the hammer look into the soul of the person to determine if they are worthy? It could be coded to only be picked up by Thor (via a DNA check) but how can the hammer know Thor is ready for the power? I suppose the answer is that the hammer is so scientifically advanced that it can actually figure out if a person is "worthy" and then unlock itself to that person. But that just sounds like bullshit to me. I guess because I am not sufficiently evolved.

Well - if I remember right (ha!), memory formation is accompanied by a chemical reaction that takes place in the brain. I suppose you could explain Mjolnir being able to determine if someone is "worthy" in the same way in that it detects whether or not the appropriate chemical reaction has taken place or is still active within the being that touches it?

[Hot Coldman]

I think there was even a topic on here about the subject, but as someone who has never read comics, or at least not that much at all, where the hell does someone even start?

The A.V. Club did a recent Gateway to Geekery article that's basically a Beginner's Guide to Reading the Avengers' comic. It's pretty good. But bottom line: start with Ultimates.

I mean, they went and got Banner from fucking India. And Widow from Russia. SHIELD certainly could have made a phone call to wherever Cheadle's character was stationed. But w/e. They didn't need him though, so it was fine. To deal with someone like Thanos, I expect all hands on deck.

My dream Avengers 2 has Nova (who'll presumably be in Guardians of the Galaxy) returning to Earth to warn of Thanos incoming. Then Captain America leads the Secret Avengers to infilitrate A.I.M. and investigate reports of them hoarding alien technology that could be used against Thanos, and Tony Stark takes control of the Avengers when Thanos finally shows up. So it'd go a bit like:

Secret Avengers:
-Cap
-Black Widow
-Nova
-War Machine
-Ant-Man

Avengers:
-Iron Man
-Thor
-Hulk
-Ms Marvel
-Black Panther
-Hawkeye

Then when Thanos does show up, the teams basically get mashed together for a final melee with the bad guy himself.

...A man can dream?

[Sblargh]

I think there was even a topic on here about the subject, but as someone who has never read comics, or at least not that much at all, where the hell does someone even start?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publica...ossover_events and pick whatever sounds fun. This wikipedia page has helped me a lot organizing myself.

[Dreams-Visions]

The A.V. Club did a recent Gateway to Geekery article that's basically a Beginner's Guide to Reading the Avengers' comic. It's pretty good. But bottom line: start with Ultimates. My dream Avengers 2 has Nova returning to Earth to warn of Thanos incoming. Then Captain America leads the Secret Avengers to infilitrate A.I.M. and investigate reports of them hoarding alien technology that could be used against Thanos, and Tony Stark takes control of the Avengers when Thanos finally shows up. So it'd go a bit like: Secret Avengers: -Cap -Black Widow -Nova -War Machine -Ant-Man Avengers: -Iron Man -Thor -Hulk -Ms Marvel -Black Panther -Hawkeye ...A man can dream?

I'd love to see me some Nova Corps.

LOVE THAT SHIT.

[RubxQub]

Thanks gents. I don't think they ever talked about that ability she had, although I noticed when she was fighting that she did have some kind of something going on that hadn't been explained.

[LiK]

It isn't the same as watching it after the movie unfortunately :(

close enough. at least you can hear the audience laughing. ;)

[BigNastyCurve]

I just found out that this movie set an all-time US domestic record. Saw it twice this weekend myself and it's every bit deserving of it. Congrats Whedon & Co!

[Kai Dracon]

I saw Thor, but I still don't understand this. From what I understand, there is no magic in the world of Thor. It's just sufficiently advanced science that appears to be magic if you aren't as evolved. And you can explain basically every part of Thor's technology with that, except this "charm". How can the hammer look into the soul of the person to determine if they are worthy? It could be coded to only be picked up by Thor (via a DNA check) but how can the hammer know Thor is ready for the power? I suppose the answer is that the hammer is so scientifically advanced that it can actually figure out if a person is "worthy" and then unlock itself to that person. But that just sounds like bullshit to me. I guess because I am not sufficiently evolved.

You could argue that the hammer is actually a very advanced multi-purpose weapon system - it channels energy, controls the weather, levitates and returns, and allows flight. So it's probably got an AI inside, though perhaps not as humans would imagine an AI (like Stark's "Jarvis").

The Hammer knew that Thor was ready to become humble and self sacrifice in his movie, and flew to him from a remote location. So the technobabble explanation might be "the AI in the hammer is capable of observing who is attempting to interact with it, and may have psionic capabilities to scan the minds of persons remotely".

[Sblargh]

I think you people are pushing a bit on how asgardian technology works. I don't think it is technology "so advanced that...", but more like a completely different kind of knowledge that leads to a completely different kind of technology because we are talking about beings that are completely not human.
Who knows how the biology of an asgardian work, how their perception is different or how they interect with nature without even using any tools.