[Foliorum Viridum]

http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright/b/304071259 Here is the WR for all dungeons, in 2 hours 31 minutes.

That's mental. The one on SDA is like 4 and a half hours!

Maybe I shouldn't just use SDA as my speedrun source...

[Luigiv]

How the fuck does someone figure this shit out? "Oh, it's simple, jump backwards in a 53 degree angle towards the blue warp only to use the ocarina moments before, then pause and unpause over and over while you go back to the door, backwards..." wow.

Don't forget, he had reduce his health to half a heart and release a pair beetles scooping only one back up before doing everything you explained. Serious the condition to activate the glitch is absolutely nuts. I have no idea how he could have figured such a thing out.

[Jokab]

That's mental. The one on SDA is like 4 and a half hours! Maybe I shouldn't just use SDA as my speedrun source...

Well yeah since SDA has a very thorough (and slow) verification process, most Zelda and SM64 runners don't even bother sending in their runs, as by the time the run finally gets published, it is most likely already outdated.

[BurntPork]

That's mental. The one on SDA is like 4 and a half hours! Maybe I shouldn't just use SDA as my speedrun source...

SDA takes forever to post submitted runs.

However, MST still uses tons of glitches and skips.

[Foliorum Viridum]

Well yeah since SDA has a very thorough (and slow) verification process, most Zelda and SM64 runners don't even bother sending in their runs, as by the time the run finally gets published, it is most likely already outdated.

Yeah, the slow processing is a bummer :( It's a good site for someone like me who doesn't sit and watch live streams etc though. I go there every few weeks and I know I will get a verified speedrun of a certain quality to watch.

[CrazyDude]

Don't forget, he had reduce his health to half a heart and release a pair beetles scooping only one back up before doing everything you explained. Serious the condition to activate the glitch is absolutely nuts. I have no idea how he could have figured such a thing out.

Now I have no knowledge of this, but I would assume this person looked at the coding or whatever, and found out the holes form there.

[BurntPork]

Now I have no knowledge of this, but I would assume this person looked at the coding or whatever, and found out the holes form there.

Actually, this was mostly done with testing.

[Jokab]

Now I have no knowledge of this, but I would assume this person looked at the coding or whatever, and found out the holes form there.

Most of the tricks used in at least OoT are found by people hypothesizing tricks using knowledge derived from other games that have been heavily exploited, and then testing it out. Others are found by just messing around in the game and stumbling across something that seems totally useless (such as being able to get Faraoe's Wind on the B button, which was though to be useless, and then coincidentally contributed to finding the first wrong warp resulting in the 50min runs), and then get pulled out to do some crazy glitch later. When the actual glitch is found, you can use memory viewers in an emulator to find out what exactly is going on, and then trying different setups to see why it works and how it can be fully exploited. I'm assuming the ganon warp was found by checking memory adresses for the ghoma warp and then seeing what had to be added to get a warp to near the credits, and then simply filling those conditions.

[Diablohead]

Another impressive thing about this is how fast you can clear the first dungeon, it's all about using superjumps and sword lunges

[Jaxter09]

the same way the play as master hand glitch took 9 years after melee came out to find.

My mind is blown to pieces

[fugimax]

Cosmo is on.. he's ahead of his best time:

http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright

[fugimax]

New world record! 22:32.80

[Anth0ny]

FUCK MISSED IT

I was watching his stream and turned it off literally 25 minutes ago.

[krameriffic]

That's mental. The one on SDA is like 4 and a half hours! Maybe I shouldn't just use SDA as my speedrun source...

That one might be a more complete run category than MST. The only constraint on MST is getting all the medallions and stones from the main dungeons and completing the 6 trials in Ganon's castle. I like the MST run because it's got a good amount of the core game in it, but also a lot of glitches and broken sequences to make it work. This current any% run is just a complete breakdown of the entire game, much like the really low star count SM64 runs.

[Pappasman]

New world record! 22:32.80

It was a pretty good run but there was definitely room for improvement. The Stalfos and Ganon fights went really well though.

[fugimax]

It was a pretty good run but there was definitely room for improvement. The Stalfos and Ganon fights went really well though.

The Ganon fight was sick.

He's playing through Windwaker now ... wooo!

[Anth0ny]

The Ganon fight was sick. He's playing through Windwaker now ... wooo!

For those who don't know... an any% Wind Waker run is 6+ hours.

[JoeFu]

So Cosmo is streaming now. I think he just set a new WR at 22:31:58, not sure though especially with how fast people can beat the game now. He wasn't satisfied and he's going for Round 2!!

http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright

[Ardenyal]

And he was -25 secs before ganon too. "Wasn't a good run anyway." :D

[Pappasman]

fucking up the ISG at ganon was heartbreaking.

[Medalion]

And people were already complaining OOT was too short before this lol

[JoeFu]

fucking up the ISG at ganon was heartbreaking.

Yeah, he messed up like 4 times? That's at least 8-10 seconds.

[JoeFu]

22:09:46!

He sets the world record again!

[Papercuts]

22:09, nice. Sub 22 is definitely possible but seems really hard.

[Pappasman]

that was really good. ganon was perfect.

[JoeFu]

http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright


so uhhh new WR incoming again most likely. Probably sub 22

EDIT: Stalfos probably effed him over :(

[Myriadis]

http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright so uhhh new WR incoming again most likely. Probably sub 22 EDIT: Stalfos probably effed him over :(

He currently tries it again. He was 0.2 seconds slower than before in the first segment, but 4 seconds faster on the second segment. Let's hope he manages to do the Gohma Warp glitch, the glitch seems to be quite complicated and hard to pull off.
It must be so thrilling to do everything as perfect as possible while several people are watching.

Edit: reset at the deku tree. Didn't reach the higher platform which leads to the second-to last room.

[BurntPork]

ZFG just set the WR @ 22:01.42, though he may have hit the final split late.

This obviously isn't the end, though. The fight for sub 22 continues!

http://www.twitch.tv/zfg1

Also, a TAS will be uploaded to Swordless Link's YouTube channel soon. By TAS timing, it's 22:5x, but it's sub 20 up to Ganon's death.

[cooltrainer]

Is it just me or are almost all the games with cool speedruns and glitches Nintendo games? You hear about Zelda/Metroid/Mario speedruns all the time but other games not so much.

[BurntPork]

Is it just me or are almost all the games with cool speedruns and glitches Nintendo games? You hear about Zelda/Metroid/Mario speedruns all the time but other games not so much.

Crazy thing is that it's not even just N64 and older. Metroid Prime is somewhat popular, and even Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword have been broken down enough for sub-6 hour runs. (TP sub-4)

[BurntPork]

ZFG just beat the record again. Now it's 21:56.82

[Anth0ny]

ZFG just got 21:46. He's satisfied with his time, and says he's done any% now. Insane.

[BurntPork]

ZFG just got 21:46. He's satisfied with his time, and says he's done any% now. Insane.

It's fucking amazing. My heart was pounding.

My god, I can't believe he really cut 10 seconds. I don't see that being beat any time soon.

[JoeFu]

Well Cosmo is usually the only person to challenge him with these crazy times right? And he's focusing on WW so it will probably stay for a while.

[BurntPork]

Well Cosmo is usually the only person to challenge him with these crazy times right? And he's focusing on WW so it will probably stay for a while.

Frankly, even Cosmo probably doubted that this was possible. It'll take a perfect bufferless run to 21:46. Plus, he doesn't seem to like any% all that much. He probably cares more about the MST record.

[Myriadis]

Swordless Link also did a TAS run with that exploit. With that TAS, he managed to do it in unter 20 minutes, 19:46.22, to be exact. With just 14 seconds under the 20 minute-mark, I really doubt that it is possible to get it under 20 minutes, or even 21 minutes for a non-TAS run. Still interesting to see how long it would take if someone would do a frame-perfect run.

[Madao]

glad to see him get a new WR.

when i left, he had just failed a good run by accidentally burning the shield.

[FyreWulff]

Swordless Link also did a TAS run with that exploit. With that TAS, he managed to do it in unter 20 minutes, 19:46.22, to be exact. With just 14 seconds under the 20 minute-mark, I really doubt that it is possible to get it under 20 minutes, or even 21 minutes for a non-TAS run. Still interesting to see how long it would take if someone would do a frame-perfect run.

Love the skip under Mido in the TAS version.

[Fantasmo]

I have a weird taste in speedruns. For example, the first Super Metroid speedruns under an hour demanded creativity, planing and skill without relying in glitches, bugs or programing errors. Same with the first Prime runs. Now they rely so much on secret worlds and clipping through walls. Is not really aesthetically pleasing or interesting watching a half rendered world after a clip that magically transport the character to another part of the level. Compare that to a speed demosn runing through Quake 2 executing rocket jumps and high precision jumps... now that's inspiring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84ZELkplpc

[Beerman462]

Must be a Zelda thing. No one has posted the Link to the Past speed run?
Link to the Past in 7 mins

[Hot Coldman]

Um, what the fuck? That's some crazy ass exploitation of scripting... I think.

[Bisnic]

I'm surprised the game just didnt freeze when child link appeared in Ganon Castle and cutscenes that follow.

Also LOL at Master Sword coming out of thin air when Ganon first appeared.