[Baconsammy]

Which of the three episodes is it in?

The 2nd part of the 2-part finale.

[MNC]

Apparently he gives the mother of all speeches in the season finale next week.

Next week, not including this week? So 3 episodes left? When are we going to learn of the fate of the show?

[Nappuccino]

Next week, not including this week? So 3 episodes left? When are we going to learn of the fate of the show?

4 episodes left... right?

This week and 3 next week.

And they're supposed to announce by the 14th, so we'll know Community's fate before the finale airs.

[Baconsammy]

Next week, not including this week? So 3 episodes left? When are we going to learn of the fate of the show?

4 episodes left. 1 this week, 3 next week. We'll know the fate of the show any time between now and May 14th. 30 Rock apparently is getting a final 13 episode season to close out the show. I assume that means we'll find out the fate of Community soon too.

[snesfreak]

4 episodes left.
This Thursday's episode, and then 3 next Thursday.
And we'll know for sure what's happening with the show on Monday (the 14th.)

[fisheyes]

Next week, not including this week? So 3 episodes left? When are we going to learn of the fate of the show?

There's 4 episodes left - 1 this week and 3(!) next week.

I think the 14th was being floated around as the date we would know for sure whether it would be renwed or not, but I'm not too sure on that one.


EDIT: I've been beaten in every possible way.

[Sketch_Turntable]

Report: NBC Poised to Renew Community, 30 Rock and Parks and Rec – But There's a Catch


Most likely shorten season.

[markot]

14 eps >_<;

[Baconsammy]

I hate that 3 of my favorite shows are on fucking NBC.

[Nappuccino]

any renewal is better than no renewal. Hopefully they can do a bunch of really tight scripts this way instead of 5-6 tight ones and 15 good but not great ones.

[saunderez]

The opposing argument for a short season of Community is that it's not going to make it to the magical 88 episode syndication mark on a short season. We'll have 71 episodes at the end of this season so 13 episodes isn't going to cut it. Considering the deal with Comedy Central I'm more inclined to think it'll be renewed for a 20 episode final season to get them over the line.

[GoutPatrol]

The opposing argument for a short season of Community is that it's not going to make it to the magical 88 episode syndication mark on a short season. We'll have 71 episodes at the end of this season so 13 episodes isn't going to cut it. Considering the deal with Comedy Central I'm more inclined to think it'll be renewed for a 20 episode final season to get them over the line.

Over 80 will probably be okay for them. That is 13 weeks of Mon-Fri shows. Episodes would repeat 4 times a year.

[saunderez]

Over 80 will probably be okay for them. That is 13 weeks of Mon-Fri shows. Episodes would repeat 4 times a year.

It's not for them it's for other networks. I don't know why but 88 is the number. It used to be 100.

[Sketch_Turntable]

I thought 88 was more of a suggestion rather than a rule. Like...it is usually 88 but it doesnt necessarily HAVE to be 88. Either way, i just want them to be able to wrap the series up so we all get some closure.

[MNC]

4 episodes left... right? This week and 3 next week.

3 next week? Surely you mean-

4 episodes left. 1 this week, 3 next week.

You're making typo's too? But I mea-

4 episodes left. This Thursday's episode, and then 3 next Thursday.

What the-

There's 4 episodes left - 1 this week and 3(!) next week.

What the hell! Any reason?

[mclem]

What the hell! Any reason?

Glass half-empty: NBC are burning the episodes off, they hate the show, it's cancelled, the world is doomed.

Glass half-full: NBC are giving it extra focus during sweeps week, they love the show, it's fine, the world is doomed.

Hey, it's 2012.


I'm leaning towards the half-full. Yes, it's a lot of episodes in one go, but the sweeps-ness of things sounds like a vote of confidence.

[maharg]

Also rapid burnoffs I can recall all happened like months after the last episode aired in a shitty, very different from normal, timeslot.

[madkiller]

any renewal is better than no renewal. Hopefully they can do a bunch of really tight scripts this way instead of 5-6 tight ones and 15 good but not great ones.

My thoughts exactly.

[Baconsammy]

Yeah, giving a show 3 timeslots in one night during sweeps isn't how you burnoff a show. I take the move as a good sign. I don't take news of a 13 episode season as a good sign though.

[Stumpokapow]

The opposing argument for a short season of Community is that it's not going to make it to the magical 88 episode syndication mark on a short season. We'll have 71 episodes at the end of this season so 13 episodes isn't going to cut it. Considering the deal with Comedy Central I'm more inclined to think it'll be renewed for a 20 episode final season to get them over the line.

Syndication can occur at any number of episodes, and does. Some shows are pre-sold into syndication before they air their first episode (either as first-run syndication, or because the premise sells well). Strip syndication, which is when a network airs an episode of the show every day of the week, requires a pretty significant number of episodes. Generally strip syndication requires at least 88-100 episodes. But there's no cut and fast rule.

Arrested Development (53 episodes) is in syndication on IFC, twice a week. Neither regular syndication nor strip syndication. Firefly (13 episodes) is in syndication.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be a larger order to help bolster the numbers and make it an attractive prospective for syndication, strip or otherwise, but the fact that Comedy Central has bought the show does not somehow indicate that Community is being renewed at all, let alone for 20 episodes, just to get to 88.

[CzarTim]

Fewer episodes is better imo. American shows do too many episodes which causes a bunch of episodes to fall through the cracks quality-wise.

[mightynine]

Also rapid burnoffs I can recall all happened like months after the last episode aired in a shitty, very different from normal, timeslot.

What ABC did to Pushing Daisies to burnoff the remaining episodes still hurts.

[gabbo]

Fewer episodes is better imo. American shows do too many episodes which causes a bunch of episodes to fall through the cracks quality-wise.

While I would normally agree, Community used its 20+ episode length so the plotlines each year were roughly the same length as a post-secondary year (excluding the hiatus obviously). With only 13 episodes, that gets tossed out the window.

[Baconsammy]

In the case of Community, I don't see how fewer is better. When you rewatch seasons 1 and 2 do you see 8 or 9 episodes you wouldnt miss if they were gone? I don't.

[snesfreak]

In the case of Community, I don't see how fewer is better. When you rewatch seasons 1 and 2 do you see 8 or 9 episodes you wouldnt miss if they were gone? I don't.

Me either.

[Bladenic]

13-14 would be alright for Parks, but I do think 20+ is best for Community due to the style of story lines and the semester system.

[Hot Coldman]

The whole "community college" thing would make 13 episodes in a season real fucking odd.

[Quick]

Report: NBC Poised to Renew Community, 30 Rock and Parks and Rec – But There's a Catch Most likely shorten season.

Renewal with an "abbreviated" season is better than nothing. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

The whole "community college" thing would make 13 episodes in a season real fucking odd.

Air 7 in the fall, 6 from January onward could work, a la Doctor Who but with a shorter wait time.

Or, NBC orders 13 episodes with a possibility to add more, a la Chuck. This option could work better with Community than it did for Chuck, since the former is more flexible on story. The problem with Chuck was the 13 episodes are tightly written, and the 13th episode is filmed as a finale, and NBC ordered more, making the newly ordered episodes a sort of "mini-season" that didn't look as good as the original order.

[SickBoy]

I hate to give the TV-Land suits too much credit, but three episodes in one night could be a good thing for Community.

Might catch a few drive-by channel surfers, and more importantly anyone who isn't already a fan who winds up watching will be able to see a few episodes in succession. I think that's important for a show like Community which has more of an ongoing plot (and more callbacks, and weirder characters) than a lot of sitcoms. Might let it sink in a little and hook some new people -- rather than getting the reaction of "Oh, I saw an episode of that... it was interesting, but I'm not sure I 'got' it."

Makes me wonder if it would make sense in reruns to show blocks of certain shows (like Community and other shows that don't always have self-contained episodes). Probably good for building viewership, but maybe it's a potential ratings disaster?

[maharg]

I think that one of the reasons Community struggles is because it doesn't lend itself to channel surfers at all. The jokes move so fast and the plot progression is often both subtle and absurd, so someone dropping in usually has no idea what's going on.

[Greyface]

I think that one of the reasons Community struggles is because it doesn't lend itself to channel surfers at all. The jokes move so fast and the plot progression is often both subtle and absurd, so someone dropping in usually has no idea what's going on.

Agreed.

When are Dan Harmon and/or Joss Whedon going to get a show on HBO?

[tw1164]

Renewal with an "abbreviated" season is better than nothing. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Air 7 in the fall, 6 from January onward could work, a la Doctor Who but with a shorter wait time. Or, NBC orders 13 episodes with a possibility to add more, a la Chuck. This option could work better with Community than it did for Chuck, since the former is more flexible on story. The problem with Chuck was the 13 episodes are tightly written, and the 13th episode is filmed as a finale, and NBC ordered more, making the newly ordered episodes a sort of "mini-season" that didn't look as good as the original order.

USA network has shorter seasons, only 13-16 episodes. I actually like the shorter seasons more, it feels like there are less "filler" episodes.

I think Community could benefit a 7/6 schedule, I think I would remember(enjoy) a lot more of the callback jokes.

[mj1108]

Report: NBC Poised to Renew Community, 30 Rock and Parks and Rec – But There's a Catch Most likely shorten season.

People need to keep in mind this is due to how many comedies it appears NBC will be picking up for the fall.

What I think will happen is that as the new comedies premiere and get canned, NBC will end up extending the orders out on Community, 30 Rock and P&R for more episodes.

[XeroSauce]

I think that one of the reasons Community struggles is because it doesn't lend itself to channel surfers at all. The jokes move so fast and the plot progression is often both subtle and absurd, so someone dropping in usually has no idea what's going on.

A lot of inside stuff and semi-embarrassing things that make ME laugh, just confuses my viewers. Not exactly a fault of the show, it's the nature of the deliveries.

[Sketch_Turntable]

People need to keep in mind this is due to how many comedies it appears NBC will be picking up for the fall. What I think will happen is that as the new comedies premiere and get canned, NBC will end up extending the orders out on Community, 30 Rock and P&R for more episodes.

Seriously. All of these new comedies NBC is picking up sound pretty bad. I guess "7 random people meet at a Community College" sounds pretty lame as a concept too, though...

[Baconsammy]

Seriously. All of these new comedies NBC is picking up sound pretty bad. I guess "7 random people meet at a Community College" sounds pretty lame as a concept too, though...

Yeah, that premise didn't inspire confidence in me. But then I heard Joel McHale, Ken Jeong, John Oliver, and Chevy Chase and I was in no matter how bad the premise sounded. The casts for their upcoming shows don't inspire the same confidence. I felt similarly about Parks and Rec as I do Community. On its face, it sounded like another version of a show I hate (The Office), but the cast was solid, and so was the show(eventually).

[snesfreak]

This is a dark night, I have to watch Leno to see Alison.

[gabbo]

Yeah, that premise didn't inspire confidence in me. But then I heard Joel McHale, Ken Jeong, John Oliver, and Chevy Chase and I was in no matter how bad the premise sounded. The casts for their upcoming shows don't inspire the same confidence. I felt similarly about Parks and Rec as I do Community. On its face, it sounded like another version of a show I hate (The Office), but the cast was solid, and so was the show(eventually).

Joel McHale was one of the reasons I initially stayed away from the show, having only seen his E3 hosting gigs and a rare episode of The Soup on tv before hand. Thankfully I was wrong (he's still terrible at E3 though).

[Insaniac]

I suddenly just realized while watching an old episode (Chaos Theory) the beginning they ask "Didn't they say room 304?" because its season 3, episode 04!

[IrrelevantNotch]

In the case of Community, I don't see how fewer is better. When you rewatch seasons 1 and 2 do you see 8 or 9 episodes you wouldnt miss if they were gone? I don't.

I wish Season 2 of Community didn't exist.

[Mr. Pointy]

I wish Season 3 of Community didn't exist.

My opinion.

I think this tighter season will be the best thing for the show, even if it's the last. I'm just hoping it's less fucking weird like this season and more like season 1.

[snesfreak]

ah...uh...yeah nevermind.

[Nappuccino]

I have a feeling that once people re-watch season 3 they'll like it.

Just like what happened when people re-watched season 2.

[oatmeal]

I don't understand why I'm not enjoying the show as much as I used to...

Really bizarre. I thought this season started out great, and I like random episodes, but for a lot of them, I feel like they're trying too hard or something.

The characters are all becoming caricatures of themselves and it gets less and less funny every time.

Anyone else feel this way?

The Dean and Chang are nowhere near as funny as they used to be. They took the Dean full retard.

(EDIT)
Also, the 3 episode clear out reminds me of the Arrested Development 4-episode clearance during the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympics.

[RobotNinjaHornets]

So it might not just be 30 Rock getting it's final series :(

[The Dutch Slayer]

Fuck this. Fuck you NBC. FUCK.

[Baconsammy]

Fuck this. Fuck you NBC. FUCK.

Scared me, but then I followed the link and realized it was the same story we talked about last week. Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

[AlphaTwo00]

Fuck this. Fuck you NBC. FUCK.

LOOK UP. SAME LINK.

NBC had not confirmed any pickups of returning shows as of early afternoon Tuesday.

[bengraven]

LOOK UP. SAME LINK.

[RobotNinjaHornets]

Scared me, but then I followed the link and realized it was the same story we talked about last week. Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

LOOK UP. SAME LINK.

Not the same, this one is saying it'd be final for all three of them, the other one only said 30 Rock.

I mean, obviously it's not confirmed, but if it's true I'm gonna be sad :(

EDIT: I've changed the link text so it's not such a bad post >_>