[Toki767]

I was wondering the same thing but on a higher level of android phone. What is the android gaf consensus was on the newer phones coming out? One X or SIII?

International or US? MicroSD or built-in memory? Pentile screen or LCD? Removable or non-removable battery?

It's hard to just recommend one outright without knowing which of those you prefer for the most part. I don't think you'll go wrong with either phone personally.

[abstract alien]

Is there one that just outperforms the other on a technical standpoint? I mean, theoretically I guess.

[Copernicus]

Is there one that just outperforms the other on a technical standpoint? I mean, theoretically I guess.

We haven't seen marks for the Exynos, so it's up in the air.

Probably that one though.


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Unrelated, TMO will be doing a majority of spectrum changeover that will allow ATT compatible and international phones to work on their 4g network. I'm pretty much sold on the padfone now.

http://phandroid.com/2012/05/08/t-mo...o-more-cities/

[The Faceless Master]

I'm looking to get an Android phone, and I've narrowed it down to two choices (ATT carrier): Samsung Galaxy S2 or HTC Vivid. Anyone have any thoughts on these two (maybe something else that fits me better)? I don't want a super high end phone, but I want something that's decent. Also, I plan on doing some mobile development. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

between those two? GS2

I was wondering the same thing but on a higher level of android phone. What is the android gaf consensus was on the newer phones coming out? One X or SIII? Is there a reason you would pick a mid to lower android phone over the OneX or SIII coming soon, ydnawel?

International? GS3
US? still waiting on GS3 US specs...

[shinshoryuken]

Im kinda thinking of getting rid of the galaxy nexus for a ATT One X...but dayam locked bootloader =(

whats the chances of the bootloader getting unlocked?

[Parallax]

Unrelated, TMO will be doing a majority of spectrum changeover that will allow ATT compatible and international phones to work on their 4g network. I'm pretty much sold on the padfone now. http://phandroid.com/2012/05/08/t-mo...o-more-cities/

ok, this is awesome.

[Sai]

huh? you don't have yearly upgrades?..well HAD?

Well, I checked, and it says I have to wait until this time next year, so... Might have somethin' to do with the fact that I was able to get the EVO 3D a bit earlier than expected.

Maybe a similar deal will pop up a bit later. I'll keep my eyes open.

Evo 3D is still a better phone if you can get 4G.

4G pretty much sucks in my area. It only ever kinda works deep in the downtown area of Grand Rapids, Michigan—which I don't frequent all that much. I've hardly ever used it since I had my original EVO, just 3G.

Why do they still insist on putting the USB port on the side? It's good that you can alternate the position of the kickstand, but I liked it better on the bottom.

[Al-ibn Kermit]

We haven't seen marks for the Exynos, so it's up in the air. Probably that one though. ----- Unrelated, TMO will be doing a majority of spectrum changeover that will allow ATT compatible and international phones to work on their 4g network. I'm pretty much sold on the padfone now. http://phandroid.com/2012/05/08/t-mo...o-more-cities/

So their 2G becomes "4G" (but technically 3G) in the cities that get this changeover. And they're also getting ready to start building their LTE network which is a whole different thing.

And if I remember correctly T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon all use different bands for LTE. Wouldn't that prevent you from roaming or taking your phone between networks and still being able to use LTE?

[tino]

So TMo will migrate from AWS to 1900 frequency without reprogramming their phone? Thats weird.

Can I use european model now?

[DrFunk]

We haven't seen marks for the Exynos, so it's up in the air. Probably that one though. ----- Unrelated, TMO will be doing a majority of spectrum changeover that will allow ATT compatible and international phones to work on their 4g network. I'm pretty much sold on the padfone now. http://phandroid.com/2012/05/08/t-mo...o-more-cities/

I thought the padfone was 900/2100, not 850/1900?

[Ecto311]

International or US? MicroSD or built-in memory? Pentile screen or LCD? Removable or non-removable battery? It's hard to just recommend one outright without knowing which of those you prefer for the most part. I don't think you'll go wrong with either phone personally.

I know the tech differences between the phones for the most part. Being new to the android phones I was more or less wondering about the specs (US AT&T) of the phones and what to expect over the life of the phones. Is htc a good brand still, heard a lot of bad things about the inspire.

Do locked boot loaders last the life of the phone or does/can it be broken also? Would really like a vanilla ics experience with no sense or touch wiz over lay. Also does htc update their phones faster than Samsung? Seems like the gs2 has been waiting for ics forever.

I might try the one x since you have 30 days Buyers remorse period. Hopefully the full info on the sIII is released before that time is over. I do like the removable sd cards and battery but coming from an iPhone 4 I don't think I'll miss it on the one x.

[SimleuqiR]

AT&T CEO blames Google for slow Android updates, Google fires back

Randall Stephenson claimed Google was at fault and the carrier could do nothing about it. “Google determines what platform gets the newest releases and when,” the executive said. “A lot of times, that’s a negotiated arrangement and that’s something we work at hard. We know that’s important to our customers. That’s kind of an ambiguous answer because I can’t give you a direct answer in this setting.”

The Mountain View-based company has fired back, however, and said the CEO’s statements are not accurate. “Mr. Stephenson’s carefully worded quote caught our attention and frankly we don’t understand what he is referring to. Google does not have any agreements in place that require a negotiation before a handset launches,” “Google has always made the latest release of Android available as open source at source.android.com as soon as the first device based on it has launched. This way, we know the software runs error-free on hardware that has been accepted and approved by manufacturers, operators and regulatory agencies such as the FCC. We then release it to the world.”

This guy is a total dick! First complaining about unlimited data plans on iPhones and now this.

[giga]

I thought the padfone was 900/2100, not 850/1900?

Yep. Padfone only has 900/2100 for UMTS. Coperdickus could get an iPhone though, which has quad band UMTS. (850/900/1900/2100)

[Andrex]

Yep. Padfone only has 900/2100 for UMTS. Coperdickus could get an iPhone though, which has quad band UMTS. (850/900/1900/2100)

Hah.

Galaxy Nexus on Google Play is Pentaband HSPA+.

[tino]

Maybe google shouldn't choose TI chip to launch 4.0. In retrospect, why?

You guys can yell at me now, but when google choose another obscure platform to launch 5.0 (i.e. Intel atoms), you will know I am right.

[The Faceless Master]

So TMo will migrate from AWS to 1900 frequency without reprogramming their phone? Thats weird. Can I use european model now?

they're not migrating from AWS, they're adding AT&T compatible spectrum.

Maybe google shouldn't choose TI chip to launch 4.0. In retrospect, why? You guys can yell at me now, but when google choose another obscure platform to launch 5.0 (i.e. Intel atoms), you will know I am right.

obscure? wasn't most of last year's Motorola lineup OMAP? and Asus sure managed to get ICS running on their devices pretty quickly.

[giga]

So their 2G becomes "4G" (but technically 3G) in the cities that get this changeover. And they're also getting ready to start building their LTE network which is a whole different thing. And if I remember correctly T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon all use different bands for LTE. Wouldn't that prevent you from roaming or taking your phone between networks and still being able to use LTE?

Roaming with LTE isn't happening for a long time.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-574...be-compatible/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#...nel_bandwidths

[SimleuqiR]

Maybe google shouldn't choose TI chip to launch 4.0. In retrospect, why? You guys can yell at me now, but when google choose another obscure platform to launch 5.0 (i.e. Intel atoms), you will know I am right.

This is another reason why I believe Google will start to make their own hardware down the road. I mean, has the Nexus program help OEMs release and/or update their hardware in a timely matter? Has it created some sort of standard in the industry? AFAIK, the answer is no.

And since OEMs pretty much have done whatever they want once the code is available I see no point in Google catering to them on the hardware side of things. Just keep releasing the code for FREE, and OEMs will not complain.

[tino]

TFM, yeah I forgot about the moto phones. But one can argue base on global smartphone sales from last year, Snapdragon (HTC and Samsung US phones) and still way more popular than TI.

Scoll down for smart phone chart, Moto didn't make the top 5.

http://mobithinking.com/blog/2011-ha...es-big-picture

[The Faceless Master]

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[Submarino Conversível]

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[Toki767]

It sounds like AT&T is in denial.

[The Faceless Master]

HTC EVO™ V 4G -> Virgin Mobile USA

[Copernicus]

I thought the padfone was 900/2100, not 850/1900?

=(

Dreams shattered.

AT&T CEO blames Google for slow Android updates, Google fires back This guy is a total dick! First complaining about unlimited data plans on iPhones and now this.

I won't be surprised to see ATT kick off a huge WP backing this year. They don't have to worry about the OS as they do now since MS will take care of it all.

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Welp, now we have everything. Hardware ICS buttons WITH a menu button. RIP search button.



http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/08/k...of-smartphone/

[gcubed]

that looks like an old foil shaver

[DrFunk]

that looks like an old foil shaver

Like a 80's Norelco

[Parallax]

So their 2G becomes "4G" (but technically 3G) in the cities that get this changeover. And they're also getting ready to start building their LTE network which is a whole different thing. And if I remember correctly T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon all use different bands for LTE. Wouldn't that prevent you from roaming or taking your phone between networks and still being able to use LTE?

t-mo has LTE?

[gcubed]

t-mo has LTE?

next year

[Parallax]

next year

nice.

[The Faceless Master]

Welp, now we have everything. Hardware ICS buttons WITH a menu button. RIP search button. http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/08/k...of-smartphone/

that phone looks amazing!

[RJM77]

I won't be surprised to see ATT kick off a huge WP backing this year. They don't have to worry about the OS as they do now since MS will take care of it all.

That's what I don't understand about carriers/oems and their handling of Android. They complain about all the work they have to do to get the latest Android update out, and how iOS and WP7 are much easier to handle from their end. But no one forces them to dick around with Android. No one forces them to put out weak apps that no one uses and that then have to be upgraded for each new version of Android. No one is forcing each of the carriers to make their own exclusive variations of the Galaxy S phones.
They're doing it to themselves, so why bitch and moan about it?
Seems like it'd be a lot easier and cheaper for them to make their phones "Nexus" with stock android, and consumers (the vocal ones, at least) would be happier too.

[The Faceless Master]

HTC EVO Design 4G™ -> Boost Mobile

[Ashhong]

Hah. Galaxy Nexus on Google Play is Pentaband HSPA+.

What does this mean. Does this mean it's compatible with ATT and T-mobile at their highest data?

[Copernicus]

What does this mean. Does this mean it's compatible with ATT and T-mobile at their highest data?

Up to 21 mbps on HSPA+ for both att/tmo/carriers around the world with the bands.


There are faster phones on TMo and ATT (Skyrocket for example) that go to 42 mbps.

[Ephemeris]

Hopped into the Tmo store to play with the One S.

I literally don't see what the Pentile hate is all about. : /

[Copernicus]

Hopped into the Tmo store to play with the One S. I literally don't see what the Pentile hate is all about. : /

Very few people are actually bothered by pentile if they a) don't know about it b)don't visit gaf.



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They're multiplying!

http://www.androidcentral.com/kyocera-rise-hands

[Ephemeris]

Very few people are actually bothered by pentile if they a) don't know about it b)don't visit gaf.

Slick Phone though.

[The Faceless Master]

Hopped into the Tmo store to play with the One S. I literally don't see what the Pentile hate is all about. : /

did you bring your microscope with you?

Very few people are actually bothered by pentile if they a) don't know about it b)don't visit gaf.

i'm sure it annoys a select few people, and it probably mindfucks some other people who if they didn't know, it wouldn't bother them at all.

----- They're multiplying! http://www.androidcentral.com/kyocera-rise-hands

the menu button is seriously blowing my mind.

[Copernicus]

the menu button is seriously blowing my mind.

At least they're keeping the correct order this time around (until Samsung unveils their entry level Galaxy Scramble that is).

[Toki767]

As someone who hates using the search button on my Captivate because of where it's placed, I'm sad the menu button is on the right. It should really be the first button.

[Socreges]

Hello, Android-GAF

I'm looking closely at the SGIII (or the Nexus) and the HTC One X. What reasons can you give me to wait for the SGIII and not bite on the One X right now? I've been looking at the specs and it seems like the latter doesn't have any disadvantages outside of lacking LTE (but having a quad-core processor).

I'm in Canada FWIW

[Ephemeris]

did you bring your microscope with you?

I channeled the Eyes of the Hawk.

[Toki767]

Hello, Android-GAF I'm looking closely at the SGIII (or the Nexus) and the HTC One X. What reasons can you give me to wait for the SGIII and not bite on the One X right now? I've been looking at the specs and it seems like the latter doesn't have any disadvantages outside of lacking LTE (but having a quad-core processor). I'm in Canada FWIW

The S3 has microSD expandable memory and a removable battery. Also a .1" bigger screen if that matters. Are you getting the global version for either? Both versions in Canada I'd imagine will use the S4 chip which means both should have LTE.

[Socreges]

MicroSD expandable and a removable battery. Also a .1" bigger screen if that matters. Are you getting the global version for either? Both versions in Canada I'd imagine will use the S4 chip which means both should have LTE.

Hmm, yeah, the removable battery might actually be a make/break for me, as silly as that might sound to some. I like the idea of swapping batteries when one is low, plus I've heard they're fairly inexpensive. Not too fussed about the other stuff.

By global version, do you mean the one that you'd pay full price for and attach to a carrier? I'd almost definitely get the carrier's (Rogers) version.

[Toki767]

Hmm, yeah, the removable battery might actually be a make/break for me, as silly as that might sound to some. I like the idea of swapping batteries when one is low, plus I've heard they're fairly inexpensive. Not too fussed about the other stuff. By global version, do you mean the one that you'd pay full price for and attach to a carrier? I'd almost definitely get the carrier's (Rogers) version.

By global I mean not North American. The HTC One X has the Tegra 3 in the global version and the S3 has the Exynos. Neither of those are LTE. Both phones in North American will more than likely have the same Snapdragon S4. Both of those will be LTE.

[Socreges]

By global I mean not North American. The HTC One X has the Tegra 3 in the global version and the S3 has the Exynos. Neither of those are LTE. Both phones in North American will more than likely have the same Snapdragon S4. Both of those will be LTE.

You're totally right. I just dug a bit more on the carrier's website:



Dang. I was looking at these specs.

[Al-ibn Kermit]

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[Veezy]

Is the Galaxy Nexus the best Android phone on Sprint? I'm switching services when I move this month and am looking to stay in the Android family.

[Ephemeris]

While playing with the One S at the T-Mo store I also took the liberty of logging into dropbox with my account...

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[AndyD]

While playing with the One S at the T-Mo store I also took the liberty of logging into dropbox with my account...

How? ANd what is that from?