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(05-08-2012, 08:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ramirez:
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(05-08-2012, 10:47 AM)
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Ripped some shit up in Multi-team hog race with team Elzalinwa69 the BAMFs last nite!
Did not know you could spawn trap in that game-type. We also tied a match of multi-team slayer on countdown. I pulled off the clutch armourlock double to steal us the points. Reach is dead. |
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(05-08-2012, 11:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hydranockz:
2nd bold: The games in Reach are less fair without 1-50, so I don't feel like that's a valid point to bring to the table. I think lot of people here are dramatically underestimating how important 1-50, or at least a visible-in-all-playlists skill rank is to vast swathes of the Halo multiplayer fanbase, the fanbase that has seen Halo become one of the most played games on xbox live. A lot of people I speak to lament its loss and were hoping for a return to sanity in Halo 4. Doesn't look like they're going to get it. Why do we keep looking to Reach in so many instances as the baseline for Halo sanity? Halo Reach (insanity): No ranks (lol Arena), bloom, armour abilities, the sort of baked in gameplay that can cause a long term, level headed fan of the series (Ghaleon) to lunge for the power button on his xbox, reflexively. Another interesting thing to note is those that are long term opponents of 1-50, for reasons other than just boosters, cling to the so called booster problem as their checkmate and claim that many, many games suffered from the problems of cheaters. Conversely, advocates of 1-50 claim that the amount of ranked games they played in that were affected by boosters were negligible (1 in 20 or so). So one side of this divide are exaggerating or outright lying to support their opposition to 1-50. I can only speak for myself; I can honestly say that very few (proportionally) of the ranked games I played in Halo 3 were 'ruined' by boosters. And I don't want to hear how Bungie/343 have 'stats' or 'hard data' to mandate their bizzare decisions. Just remember it was the 'hard data' gleaned from the great 'Vanilla or TU?' 2 week vote in Team Slayer that allowed them to justify the removal of Squad Slayer for the laughably inferior Super Slayer. |
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(05-08-2012, 11:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gazzawa:
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(05-08-2012, 11:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by thee henery:
If the multiplayer was catered to the hardcore fans, with reasonable matching (so casuals don't get donged on too often), casuals will still be happy, while providing a much more balanced and fair game for the hardcore. Look at Halo 3. While not the most competitive according to a lot of people here, it was pretty well balanced (except for AR starts...) and it was battling with CoD for 1st, well after it came out. Reach catered a lot more to casuals and the "realism" crowd, and look at population now. It's lucky if it even beats Fifa and Gears nowadays. Hardcore fans have stopped playing - they are the ones that play Halo games for years after it comes out, and encourage other friends to play. I see some real promise with what 343 is bringing to the table (i.e. finally being able to spawn with BR/DMR all the time, good movement/jump, amazing graphics), and while worried about their decisions in Reach - I think that they will give a lot more love to 4. Reach is only adopted, 4 will be their baby. |
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(05-08-2012, 12:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hydranockz:
Originally Posted by MrGreencastle:
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(05-08-2012, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ramirez:
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(05-08-2012, 12:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by kylej:
You know, I haven't been here long, minus lurking, but every time you show up to "discuss" something, you bring along waves of negativity and cynicism. It's tough not to call you out on that, especially on a forum like this. Either way, I completely respect your opinion, and I don't think you're wrong - just that I don't agree that 1-50 is the way to go from here (at least, not in it's past form, based on my experience). I know that you care about having a game that you'll enjoy, and that there are certain criteria you expect from it in order for you to enjoy it. All I'm saying is we should consider the game from outside our narrow perspectives, as we each experience it differently, even compared to the average gamer. And it's especially important to recognize when an employee who has the data, saying it was a problem, versus you, who doesn't have any of said data, refuting, or downright refusing it and not really getting anywhere in the process, other than a nostalgic circle-jerk. That's "white-noise", in my opinion.
Last edited by MrGreencastle; 05-08-2012 at 12:31 PM.
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(05-08-2012, 12:28 PM)
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New Edge article-Scoring Halo 4
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