[Dragonzord]

OH MY GOD EMOTES

that ferret animation is adorable

[Darkmakaimura]

I do find it odd that people are saying Torchlight 2 is going to be better than Diablo 3 when a demo for T2 hasn't even been released.

I just finished Torchlight today and loved the game. I am really looking forward to T2 and hopefully, the eventual MMO. But is D3's demo (which I have not played) really so bad that a game nobody's even played yet is supposedly going to be better? Really?

[reptilescorpio]

I do find it odd that people are saying Torchlight 2 is going to be better than Diablo 3 when a demo for T2 hasn't even been released. I just finished Torchlight today and loved the game. I am really looking forward to T2 and hopefully, the eventual MMO. But is D3's demo (which I have not played) really so bad that a game nobody's even played yet is supposedly going to be better? Really?

Watching livestreams of the beta sold me day one. Fixes everything about the first and more.

[Morokh]

Do we know if they kept the infinite dungeon idea like in the first one ? they only mention some new game + on the website.

[Sn4ke_911]

I was pretty pumped for it but i seriously don't know if i want it anymore when D3 is just around the corner.

[SteveWD40]

Do we know if they kept the infinite dungeon idea like in the first one ? they only mention some new game + on the website.

I can't see how with an overworld, unless a bottomless dungeon shows up.

They are aiming for D2 style I think, with random dungeons popping up so you can keep replaying the game but it will be different each time. That or you can just drop into the hub and go and find new dungeons as they keep changing?

In other words: I have no earthly idea ;)

[undu]

Do we know if they kept the infinite dungeon idea like in the first one ? they only mention some new game + on the website.

If it isn't in, hopefully it can be made with mods :)

[fresquito]

Could mods please make talking about D3 on T2 threads bannable (and the other way around). These threads would be much better without the trolls.

[99%]

There was a live stream today and T2 looked good, very fluent. Guys said they have no plans for the MMO anymore and everything is focussed on T2.

But is D3's demo (which I have not played) really so bad that a game nobody's even played yet is supposedly going to be better? Really?

There was no D3 demo, but a Open Beta Server Stress Test.

And it was so good D3 will sell millions within days.

[Deadbeat]

And it was so good D3 will sell millions within days.

Hahahahaha. Days.

[99%]

Hehe you're right. Hours.

Anyhoo is that a Chaos Engine avatar? Edit: wrote Chaos Trigger first.. hazy memory :P

[Benedict]

There was a live stream today and T2 looked good, very fluent. Guys said they have no plans for the MMO anymore and everything is focussed on T2. There was no D3 demo, but a Open Beta Server Stress Test. And it was so good D3 will sell millions within days.

I wasn't so fond of it, which is why I preordered T2.
Might buy D3 when it's on sale later.

[Darkmakaimura]

There was a live stream today and T2 looked good, very fluent. Guys said they have no plans for the MMO anymore and everything is focussed on T2.

So, the MMO is not happening?

[mrpeabody]

I do find it odd that people are saying Torchlight 2 is going to be better than Diablo 3 when a demo for T2 hasn't even been released. I just finished Torchlight today and loved the game. I am really looking forward to T2 and hopefully, the eventual MMO. But is D3's demo (which I have not played) really so bad that a game nobody's even played yet is supposedly going to be better? Really?

D3 made changes (always online, RMAH, no skill trees) that are controversial in some quarters. The people who are super internet mad about that stuff are very vocal about how much "better" T2 will be.

D3 is going to be an amazing game, but if you don't like the direction they're taking, T2 and Grim Dawn have you covered. I'm looking forward to playing all three.

[spiritfox]

The MMO is still in the works. That's all we know.

[Darkmakaimura]

The MMO is still in the works. That's all we know.

99% claims there are no plans for the MMO anymore, as stated by Runic. Should have quoted him earlier but edited my post to reflect that.

If he's telling the truth, sounds like it's pretty much been canned.

[HenryHSH]

Is there a video of the stream? I can't access it from the justin.tv archive. :(

[Dragonzord]

The MMO is still in the works. That's all we know.

The dev straight up said they aren't working on an mmo.

[Munin]

Maybe they've seen the light then. It must be hard as hell to make it these days with a new MMO. Now we just need Elder Scrolls Online to crash and burn and we can have our beautiful regular games back.

[Darkmakaimura]

The dev straight up said they aren't working on an mmo.

I guess it's official then.... It's been canned. :(

I kind of wanted to see a Torchlight MMO.

Edit: BTW, is there a source anyone can provide where they say they've decided not to do the MMO?

[99%]

I guess it's official then.... It's been canned. :( I kind of wanted to see a Torchlight MMO. Edit: BTW, is there a source anyone can provide where they say they've decided not to do the MMO?

They said so in the chat today.

I think it's a good idea for a small studio to focus on something they can really polish.

[Kalnos]

Er... I think the MMO is suppose to be built off the same engine as TL1/TL2 so by making those games they're creating the foundation of the MMO but aren't technically "making an MMO". Unless you heard "MMO canceled" from Max Schaefer or Travis Baldree I wouldn't 'confirm' it.

With that said, I have no interest in an MMO from Runic so I wouldn't care either way.

[Darkmakaimura]

They said so in the chat today. I think it's a good idea for a small studio to focus on something they can really polish.

Ah, so this news is as recent as of today.

That sucks. :(

[Dragonzord]

"You can shift click loot to have your pet pick it up instead"

#gamechanger

[scorpscarx]

"You can shift click loot to have your pet pick it up instead" #gamechanger

One thing I REALLY missed during the D3 beta was having my bitch pet, go back to town and sell off my rubbish!

[razgriz417]

Dev is streaming T2 if anyone is interested, last time he streamed until 7:30 in the morning lol

http://www.twitch.tv/iitiamatii

[Dragonzord]

Dev is streaming T2 if anyone is interested, last time he streamed until 7:30 in the morning lol http://www.twitch.tv/iitiamatii

I swear he reminds me of Norman Chan.

[reddin]

I swear he reminds me of Norman Chan.

That's racist!

Really enjoyed the stream, nice hour+ of Q&A at the end when he should be sleeping :P.

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I've bought the four-pack, mostly in order to play Torchlight and have ended up dedicating a significant amount of my weekend to torchlight one. Very enjoyable.

Considering I hadn't touched a game of this type until the Diablo 3 beta, I'm pleasantly surprised at being exposed to a completely new genre.

Cannot wait for its release.

[rybrad]

Not sure why people argue about this game vs. D3, I bought both and am pretty happy to have two decent loot games coming out in the same year.

[reddin]

He is streaming again.
Currently playing as an embermage.

[Valnen]

He is streaming again. Currently playing as an embermage.

Oh good, they fixed the UI. Was worried when they moved the globes to the sides of the screen.

Bleh at the anti-D3 rhetoric of the people in chat though...

[alazz]

Looks very good. I played mostly Embermage in T1. Loved it as a pure caster, but it was awfully imbalanced. Pyre maxed out killed the final boss of the mine in less than two seconds, and in general is an AoE instagib for almost every enemy.

[Kientin]

Wow just tuning in, and this looks real good coming from the D3 beta. Makes me not feel bad at all for going with the "poor man" version of D3. Now I just need to get a hold of a demo to see for myself if it's as fun as it looks and I'm sold.

[Zefah]

Looks great, but damn they went even deeper with the cartooney look, didn't they? Maybe it's just due to the fact that it's daylight in the stream.

Uelmen's music seems oddly out of place.

Oh good, they fixed the UI. Was worried when they moved the globes to the sides of the screen. Bleh at the anti-D3 rhetoric of the people in chat though...

Idiots are always going to hate what's most popular. Go into any MMORPG beta and take a gander at all the WoW hate, for example.

Most recently, the amount of anti-Diablo III spam was kind of ridiculous in that Path of Exile game.

[reddin]

Apart from getting asked if he's going to play D3 a couple times an hour it didn't seem that bad to me.
And I really like the way it looks, very pretty. I could just let it sit and watch the day/night cycle do its thing.
The next area in the beta is a little less green hill zone and a bit more ice cap zone, though. But still cartoony obviously.

Wow just tuning in, and this looks real good coming from the D3 beta. Makes me not feel bad at all for going with the "poor man" version of D3. Now I just need to get a hold of a demo to see for myself if it's as fun as it looks and I'm sold.

You need to make an account at https://secure.runicgames.com/ , if they need additional testers they'll pull from there. There probably will not be an open beta, if the streamer is to be believed.
There's bound to be a demo come releasetime though.

[Morokh]

Bleh at the anti-D3 rhetoric of the people in chat though...

Well the ones talking to him sound like idiots when they do that cause they just do that because it's a T2 stream, but in a sense you can understand why there could be some hate towards D3, and especially when you look at what they did with Torchlight 2.

I played D3 Beta during the Beta week-end and 'completed' it with all achievements, and liked it (way more than i thought I would because I literally had zero hype for it with what they showed)

You can't really compare D3 and T2 in terms of scope/budget since one is a big blockbuster game and the other really more of an indie/small studio game, but when you start comparing the two in terms of game design and mechanic choices, it''s like Diablo 2 had two sons that went two different routes.

D3 is the 'new' diablo with all the 'modern' game design look / ideas and features that blizzard created and refined over the years, be it good or bad (and real bad ....)
That makes the game a breeze to play but they somewhere lost some of the look and feel of what made the Diablo series so far in the process.

T2 is the more 'classic' take on the subject that keeps the key aspects of the game and improves or builds on this basis with incorporating new ideas. And looking at it, and with me replaying some T1 since the D3 Beta, Torchlight 'feels' way more like Diablo 2 as the D3 Beta ever did.

But in the end we have two quality titles to play with, so it's a win for everyone who isn't completely stupid about it.

[SteveWD40]

But in the end we have two quality titles to play with, so it's a win for everyone who isn't completely stupid about it.

Very much this, we have had a drought of ARPG's so the more the merrier.

At the price TL2 is at you could buy it JUST for when you are away from the net or Blizzard's servers are down, it's not a choice between the two as they are Apples and Oranges.

[Kuro Madoushi]

Very much this, we have had a drought of ARPG's so the more the merrier. At the price TL2 is at you could buy it JUST for when you are away from the net or Blizzard's servers are down, it's not a choice between the two as they are Apples and Oranges.

I'm just bitter it got delayed...what? Half a year or more?

[V_Arnold]

T2 is the more 'classic' take on the subject that keeps the key aspects of the game and improves or builds on this basis with incorporating new ideas. And looking at it, and with me replaying some T1 since the D3 Beta, Torchlight 'feels' way more like Diablo 2 as the D3 Beta ever did. But in the end we have two quality titles to play with, so it's a win for everyone who isn't completely stupid about it.

Honestly, I loved Torchlight, but I do not feel it this way. Torchlight does not even try to stay consistent and focused through one playthrough. It not only does not have Nightmare/Hell replays, its balance is non-existent, and falls into pieces very, very soon.

Now, in order for Torchlight 2 to be "one kind of a Diablo 2 son", it NEEDS to have a meaningful endgame. It needs to have a semblance of balance. Just a touch of it. Because so far, that is what is crucial in making the game timeless.

And I know: at the end, Diablo 2 itself does not have real balance with the bullshit that is Enigma and the difference between a few top builds and other, sub-optimal ones. But the cracks only gets to be seen in Hell, which is way better than anything that the original Torchlight had.

I seriously would love to see a real improvement in this regards with Torchlight 2. Then it would be an alternative. Until then, Path of Exile might be more of a real alternative to Diablo 3.

[SteveWD40]

I'm just bitter it got delayed...what? Half a year or more?

A year actually, it was supposed to be out May 2011, then June, then it just kept getting pushed back, but they announced June 2011 as their release date.

[NullPointer]

Please patch in controller support so that I can actually buy this game.

Thanks.

[Suite Pee]

Please patch in controller support so that I can actually buy this game. Thanks.

Yeah, I'm like 75 percent PC gamer now, but I still like leaning back in my chair. I guess that might change when I get a better desk and chair though. Can't put my feet under.

I never tried the XBLA demo for Torchlight but from what I hear they did a good job with control mapping.

[NullPointer]

Yeah, I'm like 75 percent PC gamer now, but I still like leaning back in my chair. I guess that might change when I get a better desk and chair though. Can't put my feet under. I never tried the XBLA demo for Torchlight but from what I hear they did a good job with control mapping.

Well at worst if its possible to mod it in and somebody does so I'll gladly pick up a copy.

[Dragonzord]

Ken Levine ‏ @IGLevine #Torchlight2 beta invite? #ainttooproudtobeg

You know you got something special when Ken Levine's wanting a beta key

[graywolf323]

anyone still looking to do a 4-pack?

[Kientin]

You need to make an account at https://secure.runicgames.com/ , if they need additional testers they'll pull from there. There probably will not be an open beta, if the streamer is to be believed. There's bound to be a demo come releasetime though.

Signed up! Thanks for the link.

Edit: Uh, just wanted to say thanks again for the link. I just got an email saying that I got in the beta. Was not expecting it this soon. Wheeeee!

[Sajjaja]

Signed up! Thanks for the link. Edit: Uh, just wanted to say thanks again for the link. I just got an email saying that I got in the beta. Was not expecting it this soon. Wheeeee!

.......................god.......damn.......

[The_Player]

"You can shift click loot to have your pet pick it up instead" #gamechanger

That stuff was introduced back in Fate (2005).