[KingGondo]

I just think eating everyday is a waste of money and a waste of food since I barely do any activity anyways.

The human body needs fuel (read: food) to do everyday activities, including non-physical ones. You're compromising your nutritional health at the very least by not eating regularly.

I've heard of calorie-restricted diets, but it sounds like you're simply starving yourself.

[Rebel Leader]

Paying $12 a month to play WoW is much cheaper than going out and buying a brand new $60 game every month :p

I rarely get 2 games a year.

[ClovingWestbrook]

I just think eating everyday is a waste of money and a waste of food since I barely do any activity anyways. Also to add: it's not my money I'm spending.

What are you spending?

[Steelrain]

OMG I hate this so much. I used to wear a large because I have an abnormally long upper body and medium shirts are a little too short for me. A little on the big side but managable. A few years later large became way too big so I had to wear buy Medium and suffer through it being a bit too short. Now as the years pass I'm noticing medium is becoming too big and I can't fit into a small since it'll go up to my belly button. Recently I have to overpay for foreign brand shirts cause there's no American size that can fit me unless somehow they sell medium slim fit which is rare. I'm not a small guy either 6 ft, 16x pounds.

Where do you shop?

I'm the same height/weight and I think Express makes the best clothes to fit my frame. Their jeans, T-shirts, polos and button downs tend to fit me perfectly. But yeah, I know that feel on places like GAP. that stuff just doesn't fit right :(

[slit]

Just give up, all is lost!! Unless some miracle "fat pill" becomes available, the U.S. and the west in general, are going to be filled with oinkers and lard tubs.

[Rebel Leader]

What are you spending?

My mom's money.

The human body needs fuel (read: food) to do everyday activities, including non-physical ones. You're compromising your nutritional health at the very least by not eating regularly. I've heard of calorie-restricted diets, but it sounds like you're simply starving yourself.

I never feel hungry

[Zefah]

I don't know, I think there might be some truth to that as well. Surely if everyone else around you is obese too then it'll be much easier to just accept it instead of trying to something about it. Seriously, how the fuck doesn't people know what makes them fat?

Because there's a lot of bullshit out there about what makes you fat. Look at what's sold in stores as "lite", or "healthy choice". Most of it is shit that will actively make you fatter, while tasting pretty terribly at the same time.

Let's start with you: what do you think makes people fat?

[LegendofJoe]

Just give up, all is lost!! Unless some miracle "fat pill" becomes available, the U.S. and the west in general, are going to be filled with oinkers and lard tubs.

I haven't read any studies that prove this, but I have a strong feeling that there is a significant correlation between cultures that prioritize money above all else and high obesity rates. In general I've noticed that countries that place more value on social welfare and sustainability aren't facing obesity epidemics.

[Rebel Leader]

Let's start with you: what do you think makes people fat?

High calorie cheap food
depression

[-COOLIO-]

this news makes me feel very attractive

[Crunched]

High calorie cheap food

High calorie expensive food? Oversized portions of healthy food? Sedentary lifestyle? Binge eating?

[SeanR1221]

High calorie cheap food depression

Let me guess. You think a breakfast of eggs and bacon every day will make you fat.

[low-G]

So, imagine a random group of men taller than 180 cm / 5'11". Almost half of them will weight AT LEAST 98 kg / 216 lbs.

6'4" 226 lbs aww yeah not obese, bitches! Just VERY overweight. OH GOD I'M VERY VERY FAT.

/this post sarcastic and made in an effort to emphasize how strictly obesity is measured in the US.

[Rebel Leader]

Let me guess. You think a breakfast of eggs and bacon every day will make you fat.

Depends... How much bacon are we talking about here =3

[Zefah]

6'4" 226 lbs aww yeah not obese, bitches! Just VERY overweight. OH GOD I'M VERY VERY FAT. /this post sarcastic and made in an effort to emphasize how strictly obesity is measured in the US.

Are you saying that you're not very overweight at that height/weight?

[low-G]

Are you saying that you're not very overweight at that height/weight?

Yes.

[Zefah]

Yes.

Oh... well I hope you are some kind of body builder, then.

[Rebel Leader]

Is the pic clear? On my phone.

It is clear

[low-G]

Oh... well I hope you are some kind of body builder, then.

Nope, but I'm not very overweight. My shoulder width alone requires me to wear no smaller than an extra large tall.

You wearing extra smalls just means you have a very small frame and not much muscle mass.

[Utako]

in other words 42% will die quicker, US lifespan will get lower.

More likely, these people will be a big fat anchor on the nation's medical resources.

[entrement]

My mom's money. I never feel hungry

Sounds like you're a student. What about getting a part time job? Dude, don't starve yourself.

[Zefah]

Nope, but I'm not very overweight. My shoulder width alone requires me to wear no smaller than an extra large tall. You wearing extra smalls just means you have a very small frame and not much muscle mass.

Not at all, actually. I'm 5'10"~5'11" with some pretty wide shoulders but not a particularly long torso. Most T-shirts I buy in the US are extremely long (not to mention baggy) unless I go for smalls.

[Utako]

Why don't we just start discriminating against fat people? Strip them of their civil rights, send them to labor camps, etc.

It's not like they can march in protest. At most, roll over and make an annoyed gurgling sound in protest.

[Attackthebase]

Alright, lets approach it from a different angle: if weight is 100% under the control of the individual then does the increase in obesity rates point to a fundamental shift in human behavior taking place in America? People are just different now?

Culture. America's culture is telling people being unhealthy (and in effect, fat) is okay. Hell, it's usually taboo to make fun of someone's weight here. So, yes, people are different now than they were several decades back.

I don't think I've ever met a guy over 5'9" that did not wear size large. That includes high school and college athletes, including myself. So anybody who is even remotely built has to buy shirts labeled as "Fat"? lol, k

Yo, I'm 6'1 and a medium fits me perfectly.

And I used to be obese, despite my best efforts (eating only a certain amount of calories each day and exercising). I was on a low fat diet but not losing any weight at all. Kinda depressing when you are trying to accomplish something but not seeing any results at all, even when following the best advice I'd been given over the course of my life from school/government. Switching off a general low calorie/low fat diet to a low carb/no carb diet and still exercising has produced significant results though. I've lost over 40 pounds in 5 months and for the first time in a long time (probably 15 years) I'm no longer clinically obese. I'm still overweight and still have quite a ways to go, but it is a start. Seeing my weight and BMI drop each time I hop on the scale is great, and needing to go out to buy smaller clothing is good too.

Even if I have issues with obese people, I acquire a respect if I see them making an active attempt to lose weight. I'm glad to hear everything is going well for you in this regard.

[Rebel Leader]

Sounds like you're a student. What about getting a part time job? Dude, don't starve yourself.

Not a student.

a job? Been trying

[entrement]

Not a student. a job? Been trying

Good luck, then. I've been there. Tuna, rice, beans, eggs. They're cheap and relatively healthy.

[Rebel Leader]

Good luck, then. I've been there. Tuna, rice, beans, eggs. They're cheap and relatively healthy.

I don't like beans but I'll try eating the others on a daily occurrence.

[andycapps]

Depends... How much bacon are we talking about here =3

Doesn't really matter.

[Rebel Leader]

Yet buying games is not a problem? According to your post history, you are considering purchasing Black Ops 2, which is a $60 game that drops in price only very, very slowly. And forgoing eating days to have money to spend on games, come on man.

Sorry. I was exaggerating

My bad

*goes hang head up in shame*

[El Sloth]

I don't like beans but I'll try eating the others on a daily occurrence.

Dude, when you're hungry, as in truly hungry, it's not about what you like, but what you can get your hands on.

[Attackthebase]

Dude, when you're hungry, as in truly hungry, it's not about what you like, but what you can get your hands on.

This. Whenever someone offers me food, I'll usually eat regardless of its substance (excluding if it is extremely unhealthy).

[kaioshade]

It is pretty fucked up some of the views people have. I am far from skinny but i do not just go shoving 10 hamburgers down my throat 4 times a day. But because of my size a lot of immediate assumptions are made. And that is pretty jacked up. Some of you should be ashamed.

[kewlmyc]

I refuse to be one of those numbers, especially since diabetes and obesity run in my family. Fuck the odds.

[Rebel Leader]

It is pretty fucked up some of the views people have. I am far from skinny but i do not just go shoving 10 hamburgers down my throat 4 times a day. But because of my size a lot of immediate assumptions are made. And that is pretty jacked up. Some of you should be ashamed.

I do agree on this. I hate assumptions

[Zefah]

It is pretty fucked up some of the views people have. I am far from skinny but i do not just go shoving 10 hamburgers down my throat 4 times a day. But because of my size a lot of immediate assumptions are made. And that is pretty jacked up. Some of you should be ashamed.

I'm of the opinion that you should educate yourself on how effortlessly get and stay thin.

With that said, I don't go around belittling overweight/obese people. I was overweight myself once and I know how shitty it feels. Then again, it's hard to have sympathy for people who say they want to lose weight, but don't make any effort or do any research into how to do so. It's even harder to relate with people who try to promote fat acceptance.

[Rebel Leader]

EDIT;NVM

[Bealost]

Having lost over 80 lbs myself over the last year, this thread makes me sad. There is absolutely NO reason why obesity has to be as large a problem as it is. I feel like what is REALLY missing from this equation is education. For years I tried to lose weight following what I thought was "right" things I had heard from friends, family, even nutritionists. Turns out it was all garbage and what was really important was so easy.

What we need is more stuff like Michelle Obama's nutrition crusade. To get kids to start eating healthfully and then try to roll that over into adults. Teach people how to feed themselves. It may have not been needed when food was less plentiful, but these days you can cheaply eat way more "food" then you need and still suffer malnutrition.

I wonder what kind of economic affects having the obesity rate drop to <5% would have on the economy.

[andycapps]

I refuse to be one of those numbers, especially since diabetes and obesity run in my family. Fuck the odds.

Good, genetics play a role, but you can fight and do it. It's harder than someone that naturally has great genes, but definitely possible. To be honest, I think most of the people with great genes are already athletes. The rest of us have to fight for it, at least to some extent.

[TheExodu5]

Is the pic clear? On my phone.

Are you seriously telling me that more than 9% of people in the South have diabetes?

That's just...disgusting.

[RDreamer]

What we need is more stuff like Michelle Obama's nutrition crusade. To get kids to start eating healthfully and then try to roll that over into adults. Teach people how to feed themselves. It may have not been needed when food was less plentiful, but these days you can cheaply eat way more "food" then you need and still suffer malnutrition. I wonder what kind of economic affects having the obesity rate drop to <5% would have on the economy.

What's crazy to me is the kind of vitriol and shit-spewing the right has for her, even though she's really barely done anything for the nutrition cause. It's just awful...

[Attackthebase]

It is pretty fucked up some of the views people have. I am far from skinny but i do not just go shoving 10 hamburgers down my throat 4 times a day. But because of my size a lot of immediate assumptions are made. And that is pretty jacked up. Some of you should be ashamed.

The problem is there are Americans who treat their bodies like a garbage disposer.

[eosos]

Disgusting.

[BobsRevenge]

Where do you shop? I'm the same height/weight and I think Express makes the best clothes to fit my frame. Their jeans, T-shirts, polos and button downs tend to fit me perfectly. But yeah, I know that feel on places like GAP. that stuff just doesn't fit right :(

Yeah, shit like Express, Ralph Lauren, J Crew, and Brooks Brothers are generally fine for these things. Unfortunately Ralph Lauren is the only company that makes sleeves at the length I need, and Express's shirts are made for people with a smaller upper-torso than me.

I probably have weird measurements. Ralph Lauren's slimmer fits fit me perfectly, but that's about it.

[kaioshade]

The problem is there are Americans who treat their bodies like a garbage disposer.

And to be honest, so did I.

I am now trying to reverse that by eating better and getting active. But to some people it does not matter. Since i look this way now, im a slob who doesn't give a shit. That kind of prejudice bothers me.

[Zefah]

And to be honest, so did I. I am now trying to reverse that by eating better and getting active. But to some people it does not matter. Since i look this way now, im a slob who doesn't give a shit. That kind of prejudice bothers me.

Didn't you just admit that you were (past tense)?

[kaioshade]

Didn't you just admit that you were (past tense)?

As i said, i am working to improve myself. But people do not see the effort being put in. I lose a pound or two a week. But since i dont look like a model, people still think i am the exact same person who didnt care.

[Rebel Leader]

Are you seriously telling me that more than 9% of people in the South have diabetes? That's just...disgusting.

I believe it

[Srsly]

I like how, in a 5 page thread about obesity, not once has sleep quality been brought up, even though poor sleep / sleep deprivation is perhaps the biggest factor contributing to the decelopment of obesity. And Americans tend to be chronically sleep deprived. I think the fact that so many people, including experts, are unaware of such a major factor when it comes to obesity highlights why we are failing so miserably in mitigating obesity.

[Zefah]

I like how, in a 5 page thread about obesity, not once has sleep quality been brought up, even though poor sleep / sleep deprivation is perhaps the biggest factor contributing to the decelopment of obesity. And Americans tend to be chronically sleep deprived. I think the fact that so many people, including experts, are unaware of such a major factor when it comes to obesity highlights why we are failing so miserably in mitigating obesity.

I don't want to downplay the benefits of sleep when it comes to general health and even weight loss... but a lack of sleep isn't even close to being the biggest factor of why so many people are so damn fat in this country. I would also argue that a major cause of sleep deprivation/poor sleep is a poor diet. It's a lot easier to get better sleep when you're not eating shit all day and constantly sick because of your awful diet.

[Kai Dracon]

Culture. America's culture is telling people being unhealthy (and in effect, fat) is okay. Hell, it's usually taboo to make fun of someone's weight here. So, yes, people are different now than they were several decades back.

There's something not adding up here because of American culture's increasing upward spiral of emphasis on beauty and impossible physical perfection. And it's a tall claim to pin it all on culture. The rise of America's health and obesity problem falls a little too close to the ruination of the American food ecosystem; from the abuse of HFCS, to the increasing amount of shit fake food and additives.

And the thing is, the reason why it's "taboo" to make fun of someone's weight is because that doesn't help. All it does is service one's childish sense of feeling superior to someone else. Note that mocking someone's weight is not the same thing as offering advice; real advice, not just "durr don't eat whopers fattie".

The real problem IMO is that American culture is heavily conflicted. It emphasis the shallowest standards of beauty and perfection, while desiring to profit off selling people bad food, conspiring to insert bad substances into more food, and then profiting further off selling the same people fad diets. So, you know, they can be guilted in to the fad diet because all the magazine covers are plastered with the beautiful people.

Pointing and laughing or even trying to shun people is not, ultimately, the correct tactic. Not on a society wide scale.

It is becoming painfully clear that people are not being taught, from an early age, how to feed themselves and take care of themselves. Pop, commercial culture is being allowed to educate them (and manipulate, and profit, off them). Combine that with a minefield of bad information, bad choices, and boobytrapped food items that surround people, and you get the situation that America is in today.

And to be honest, so did I. I am now trying to reverse that by eating better and getting active. But to some people it does not matter. Since i look this way now, im a slob who doesn't give a shit. That kind of prejudice bothers me.

And people are saying American culture is telling people it's okay to be fat and unhealthy.

No, American culture is increasingly narcissistic, hypocritical, and cruel. It's all about image, and the beautiful people are more emphasized than ever before. Meanwhile people are kept ignorant and manipulated, not to mention given plenty of reasons to become cynical and uncaring about what to do with their life.