[ConfusingJazz]

Unrelated to moneybags, a Nebraska fan asks Leach: Was 70 really necessary?

[yellowjacket25]

Well, we would maintain a rivalry with Florida for sure, and almost certainly with Miami. Outside of that, our biggest rival in the ACC is Clemson and they could be moving too. We'd lose our "rivalry" with Virginia, but nobody gives a shit about that. As for the rest of your reasons, I agree. I don't like the idea of being so far away from all the other teams.

I think it becomes a point of concern if they go to the Big 12 and there is eventually a 9 game conference schedule. If there is then there is no way they will play Florida and Miami. Here is a good article from today talking about a possible FSU move also.

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/05/forget-rumors-reasons-why-fsu-would-never-join-the-big-12/

[StrikerObi]

I think it becomes a point of concern if they go to the Big 12 and there is eventually a 9 game conference schedule. If there is then there is no way they will play Florida and Miami. Here is a good article from today talking about a possible FSU move also. http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/05/forget-rumors-reasons-why-fsu-would-never-join-the-big-12/

This guy is smart and I agree with everything he says. I've always known that the ACC is basically the place to be for Olympic sports, but I didn't realize that the Big XII was so much worse off in that arena.

My favorite fact is that we were the ONLY school to have all (19) of our NCAA teams qualify for post-season play this year. Word.

P.S. We have a new WR starting this year (Marvin Bracy) that will probably miss part of the summer practice because he will most likely qualify for the London Olympics. 17 year old kid, and he set the fastest time in the world in the 100m in 2011. He is going to absolutely burn past everybody else's cornerbacks once he gets on the field.

[ConfusingJazz]

This guy is smart and I agree with everything he says. I've always knows that the ACC is basically the place to be for Olympic sports, but I didn't realize that the Big XII was so much worse off in that arena.

Well, it is Texas and everyone else. UT won 10 golds and 14 medals in 2008.

We haven't lost the conference in swimming since the 80s, and I believe our women's track team is currently #1 in the nation.

[Cyan]

I've always knows that the ACC is basically the place to be for Olympic sports...

wat

[Meier]

P.S. We have a new WR starting this year (Marvin Bracy) that will probably miss part of the summer practice because he will most likely qualify for the London Olympics. 17 year old kid, and he set the fastest time in the world in the 100m in 2011. He is going to absolutely burn past everybody else's cornerbacks once he gets on the field.

Goes to my high school to boot! Go Boone Braves!

[bluemax]

MikeLeachAMA[S] 88 points 3 hours ago I liked playing all of them. Really enjoyed going to Kyle Field to play Texas A&M, really enjoyed playing Nebraska. Playing someone difficult is tough and can be discouraging, but if you beat them the payoff is huge! I suspect Bill Snyder may be a sorcerer...he's one of the coaches that I admire most!

Bill Snyder is a dark wizard.

MikeLeachAMA[S] 93 points 2 hours ago First take her to CDs Pit House BBQ in Moscow, ID. If she will get her hands dirty with some great BBQ, you will know you are on the right track! Then I would go enjoy the incredible college life on College Hill at WSU but make sure you have the opportunity to talk to her a lot.

Ahahahaha, that is awesome!

[bluemax]

Washington StateMikeLeachAMA[S] 37 points 2 hours ago I talked to some people but the dubious actions of others early on had a chilling effect on my ability to get a job and it cost me two years. At this point, I feel like I am at the ideal place in WSU. I am working for a great AD in Bill Moos and I think this program has incredible potential. The future is exciting here in Pullman, WA - vote for us to get College GameDay to our campus! How much do you hate Craig James, I mean seriously? Also, congrats on your new job as a fellow Cougar. We down here in Houston don't mind our brethren to the north. Washington StateMikeLeachAMA[S] 219 points 2 hours ago I think my opinion is consistent with most of the rest of America's. This is illustrated by a poll done in the Dallas Morning News where people were asked who they would vote for senator: Mike Leach or Craig James. I got 96.5 percent of the vote.

Ice cold.

Washington StateMikeLeachAMA[S] 66 points 2 hours ago Ask Nebraska that...they have done it to others for years! Also, I was thinking about the 63 they put on me the first season we were at Texas Tech! Seriously though, you have an obligation as a coach to coach your team to play to the best of their ability. Your backup players deserve the opportunity to go out and make plays in a game as well.

Mike Leach says running up the score is fair!

[ConfusingJazz]

dunno260 And if its not too much for a third question, how have you incorporated the philosophy of "Live every week like its shark week" into your life? MikeLeachAMA I have never incorporated that as a philosophy but maybe I should. If you view each day as one where you are going to eat or get eaten, maybe it will bring out the best of your efforts.

I love this man.

[cashman]

Well, it is Texas and everyone else. UT won 10 golds and 14 medals in 2008. We haven't lost the conferencein swimming since the 80s, and I believe our women's track team is currently #1 in the nation.

saw this on reddit

[timetokill]

Well, it is Texas and everyone else. UT won 10 golds and 14 medals in 2008.

Nah, it's actually USC and then everyone else.

- USC's record since 1904 (of which, if I recall, USC has sent at least one athlete every Olympics): 122 gold, 76 silver, 60 bronze. Winning at least 1 gold every summer Olympics since 1912.

- Texas came in 8th in golds in one Olympics? that's cool. If USC were its own nation, it would be ranked 8th all-time in golds.

- Coliseum, baby

[ConfusingJazz]

Nah, it's actually USC and then everyone else. - USC's record since 1904 (of which, if I recall, USC has sent at least one athlete every Olympics): 122 gold, 76 silver, 60 bronze. Winning at least 1 gold every summer Olympics since 1912. - Texas came in 8th in golds in one Olympics? that's cool. If USC were its own nation, it would be ranked 8th all-time in golds. - Coliseum, baby

I was talking about in the Big 12.

We have 117 total medals (67/32/18).

Also, 2008 was our worst Olympics since 1992.

We only had 5 world records and 1 Olympic record as well.

And we got a silver in bobsleigh in Vancouver! SUCK ON THAT!

[bluemax]

saw this on reddit

Yawn.

There have been more Trojans in the Olympics than from any other university in the world - if USC were its own nation in the Olympics, it would rank tied for 8th in the world in total gold medals earned.

Edit: Dammit, beaten!

We had 10 Gold Medalists in 2008, and won a total of 21 medals.

[mre]

can someone directly link the reddit ama for leach for me, please?

[cashman]

can someone directly link the reddit ama for leach for me, please?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments...ke_leach_head/

[StrikerObi]

can someone directly link the reddit ama for leach for me, please?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments...ke_leach_head/

[mre]

thanks!

[ConfusingJazz]

thanks!

http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments...ke_leach_head/

[mre]

thanks!

[bucknuticus]

Yawn. Edit: Dammit, beaten! We had 10 Gold Medalists in 2008, and won a total of 21 medals.

Yeah well we had Jesse Owens so there!

[cashman]

aaaand the Lonhorns are officially on the board for the Fullmer Cup!!

http://tablet.kxan.com/10023/4165638/

[SerArthurDayne]

That is nothing. Might even be a night in jail to make them think about it and then let them go with no charges. But that would probably cause a controversy. Unless some horrible facts are not yet know, sounds like Class C Disturbing the peace misdemeanors for them.

[cashman]

That is nothing. Might even be a night in jail to make them think about it and then let them go with no charges. But that would probably cause a controversy. Unless some horrible facts are not yet know, sounds like Class C Disturbing the peace misdemeanors for them.

oh it's most likely a non-issue, but times have been tough since romance taylor left the team. We'll take what we can get!

[bluemax]

That is nothing. Might even be a night in jail to make them think about it and then let them go with no charges. But that would probably cause a controversy. Unless some horrible facts are not yet know, sounds like Class C Disturbing the peace misdemeanors for them.

If it was in LA he would've been on TMZ ala Marc Tyler.

[perfectchaos007]

If it was in LA he would've been on TMZ ala Marc Tyler.

But USC be breakin bread!

[SyNapSe]

I hope Mike Leach gets fired from WSU and then somehow, someway gets a job on national TV. I don't know who would hire him but I hope it happens. A radio show might not be awful either

[StoOgE]

aaaand the Lonhorns are officially on the board for the Fullmer Cup!! http://tablet.kxan.com/10023/4165638/

Come on guys if you're going to be arrested for eating late night drunk pizza at least get arrested at the onion. Roppolos? come on man!

[jstevenson]

I hope Mike Leach gets fired from WSU and then somehow, someway gets a job on national TV. I don't know who would hire him but I hope it happens. A radio show might not be awful either

he had radio show for like a year on satellite radio, it was fucking awesome

[StoOgE]

he had radio show for like a year on satellite radio, it was fucking awesome

No joke. I cancelled my Sirius subscription when he left.

[ConfusingJazz]

Texas A&M AD Byrne retiring Tuesday

So... no more women's basketball championships I guess.

[ConfusingJazz]

Texas A&M AD Byrne retiring Tuesday So... no more women's basketball championships I guess.

Oh, rumors are Jackie Sherril is going to replace him.

So enjoy the 13 team conference in 5 years SEC, because no way in hell does this end up without serious sanctions.

[bluemax]

Since there was some mild conversation about Urbs being the "best" coach in the B1G on a couple of lists, how about we mock some coach rankings for the Pac 12!

1. Chip Kelly, Oregon 2. Mike Leach, Washington State 3. Lane Kiffin, USC 4. Kyle Whittingham, Utah 5. Steve Sarkisian, Washington 6. David Shaw, Stanford 7. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona 8. Mike Riley, Oregon State 9. Jeff Tedford, California 10. Jim Mora, UCLA 11. Todd Graham, Arizona State 12. Jon Embree, Colorado

1. Chip Kelly, Oregon 2. Lane Kiffin, USC 3. Mike Leach, Washington State 4. Kyle Whittingham, Utah 5. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona 6. Steve Sarkisian, Washington 7. Mike Riley, Oregon State 8. Jeff Tedford, California 9. David Shaw, Stanford 10. Todd Graham, Arizona State 11. Jim Mora, UCLA 12. Jon Embree, Colorado

1. Chip Kelly, Oregon 2. Kyle Whittingham, Utah 3. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona 4. Mike Leach, Washington State 5. Lane Kiffin, USC 6. Steve Sarkisian, Washington 7. David Shaw, Stanford 8. Mike Riley, Oregon State 9. Jeff Tedford, California 10. Todd Graham, Arizona State 11. Jim Mora, UCLA 12. Jon Embree, Colorado

The consensus seems to be Chip Kelly is the best coach in the conference, and Jim Mora, Todd Graham and Jon Embree are the three worst. After that its kind of a mixed bag, although its interesting to see that the newer coaches seem to rank higher than some of the more tenured conference coaches in Riley and Tedford.

[Cyan]

Seems about right to me. Kelly at the top, the unproven guys and Tedford at the bottom. My only objection would be that I'm not sure Riley should be so low.

[bluemax]

Seems about right to me. Kelly at the top, the unproven guys and Tedford at the bottom. My only objection would be that I'm not sure Riley should be so low.

I think that last years 3-9 campaign is fresh in peoples mind. That and I don't think people who don't follow the conference enough understand what Riley has been able to do at Oregon State.

[jstevenson]

Kelly is clearly the best, and I'd put Leach a close second, I think Leach has done almost as much as Kelly with less to work with. Sark and Kiffin are both good too. Kiffin has surprisingly proven himself, though I still hope for an implosion.

I think Rich Rod will find his way up there too.

Pac-12 is loaded coaching wise

[Sirpopopop]

This guy is smart and I agree with everything he says. I've always known that the ACC is basically the place to be for Olympic sports, but I didn't realize that the Big XII was so much worse off in that arena. My favorite fact is that we were the ONLY school to have all (19) of our NCAA teams qualify for post-season play this year. Word. P.S. We have a new WR starting this year (Marvin Bracy) that will probably miss part of the summer practice because he will most likely qualify for the London Olympics. 17 year old kid, and he set the fastest time in the world in the 100m in 2011. He is going to absolutely burn past everybody else's cornerbacks once he gets on the field.

This guy is not smart if he thinks olympic sports success actually mean anything when your school will be making oodles more from the Big 12. Olympic Sports success is more meaningless than basketball success. If olympic sports success meant anything, then a conference like CUSA with its decent soccer & baseball leagues wouldn't be occupying bitch status.

The academic arguments are also bunk. The Pac 12 didn't reject the 4 schools from the Big 12 over academics. The rejection occurred because Texas didn't want to join the package deal. Texas wants to preserve the Big 12.

As for the four schools who left the Big 12: Nebraska is the first and only non-AAU member of the Big 10. Texas A&M/Mizzou were primarily brought in for market penetration, NOT ACADEMICS. Colorado was brought into the Pac, because their options are fairly limited. Louisville's main problem for the SEC is that they occupy an already occupied market. The ACC is the only conference that has truly made academics a square focus in expansion. It's also a reason why the ACC is occupying bitch status amongst the power conferences (the Big East is done as a power player. I've accepted mid-major status for Rutgers).

Also, the only conference which actually has any way to derive benefit from having good schools is the Big 10 with their research consortium. The ACC version by comparison is weak. Academics only mean something when you are dealing with two equal propositions.

[jstevenson]

As for the four schools who left the Big 12: Nebraska is the first and only non-AAU member of the Big 10. Texas A&M/Mizzou were primarily brought in for market penetration, NOT ACADEMICS. Colorado was brought into the Pac, because their options are fairly limited. Louisville's main problem for the SEC is that they occupy an already occupied market. The ACC is the only conference that has truly made academics a square focus in expansion. It's also a reason why the ACC is occupying bitch status amongst the power conferences (the Big East is done as a power player. I've accepted mid-major status for Rutgers). .

Nebraska was in the AAU when it joined the B1G. The AAU has been getting snobbier recently with some weird politics. Nebraska's removal from the AAU was by a couple votes, and 2 Big Ten schools, Michigan and Wisconsin, voted against Nebraska (WTF is up with that?)

Regardless of that, Nebraska's academics are on a huge upswing even without the B1G, and that alone is going to dramatically accelerate the academics. Look at Penn State from when they joined the B1G until now. That'll be Nebraska in a decade or so

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Nebraska was in the AAU when it joined the B1G. The AAU has been getting snobbier recently with some weird politics. Nebraska's removal from the AAU was by a couple votes, and 2 Big Ten schools, Michigan and Wisconsin, voted against Nebraska (WTF is up with that?) Regardless of that, Nebraska's academics are on a huge upswing even without the B1G, and that alone is going to dramatically accelerate the academics. Look at Penn State from when they joined the B1G until now. That'll be Nebraska in a decade or so

Nebraska was voted out of the AAU because of the lack of competitive research funding and faculty members that were part of the National Academies of Science.

I mean, the research funding thing, that is partly due to Nebraska's function as a land grant university, but they put most of their money into agriculture, which is fine, but it does it at the detriment of the other sciences/fields.

And not having faculty that aren't part of the National Academy is just sad. Get some qualified faculty, Huskers.

And don't use your medical school as an excuse. Colorado's med school isn't part of CU's flagship campus, and we're still in the AAU.

Penn State, although also a land grant campus, was a legit research university long before their invitation into the B1G. The comparison between the two is not the same.

Of the lowest ranked BIG schools, US News and World Report ranked the lowest schools, Iowa, Michigan State and Indiana at 71. Nebraska is 96.

[jstevenson]

Nebraska was voted out of the AAU because of the lack of competitive research funding and faculty members that were part of the National Academies of Science. I mean, the research funding thing, that is partly due to Nebraska's function as a land grant university, but they put most of their money into agriculture, which is fine, but it does it at the detriment of the other sciences/fields. And not having faculty that aren't part of the National Academy is just sad. Get some qualified faculty, Huskers. And don't use your medical school as an excuse. Colorado's med school isn't part of CU's flagship campus, and we're still in the AAU. Penn State, although also a land grant campus, was a legit research university long before their invitation into the B1G. The comparison between the two is not the same. Of the lowest ranked BIG schools, US News and World Report ranked the lowest schools, Iowa, Michigan State and Indiana at 71. Nebraska is 96.

Right, but the same thing was true of Penn State. Nebraska had been in the AAU for 102 years, and is on an upward trajectory, building a whole new research campus. Even Colorado voted to support Nebraska's continued AAU membership.

Nebraska was moving up fast - over the previous decade Federal Research dollars had more than doubled, and amongst AAU institutions research, Nebraska experienced the 7th most growth (by percentage: 120%) from 98-2009. (And if you did count the Nebraska Med School, they tripled their research in the same time frame, also worth noting the Med School was administered by UNL until the 70s).

And on top of that, UNL is building a huge new 233 acre Innovation Campus to further research and growth.

Anyways, without any of the above, no way the Big Ten admits us. It's frustrating that two of those B1G members voted against Nebraska. We're certainly at the bottom of the AAU for now, but compared to 15-20 years ago, the school has undergone quite the transformation, and if mentioned,

[yellowjacket25]

This guy is not smart if he thinks olympic sports success actually mean anything when your school will be making oodles more from the Big 12. Olympic Sports success is more meaningless than basketball success. If olympic sports success meant anything, then a conference like CUSA with its decent soccer & baseball leagues wouldn't be occupying bitch status.

I think he was just arguing that Florida State has been very successful recently in a lot of sports with the help of the ACC. A move to the Big 12 would threaten that. Take for instance Baseball. Right now FSU is the number one team in the country. They play in a conference with 10 teams in the top 40 RPI. There are only 2 Big 12 teams in the top 50.

[bucknuticus]

Do any of you Florida guys live in Tampa or have experiences living in the Tampa area?

[cashman]

Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever

[perfectchaos007]

KJK5H (WASMU)


...allegedly

[SerArthurDayne]

Do any of you Florida guys live in Tampa or have experiences living in the Tampa area?

I'm from Tampaish. Not sure if I can help, I haven't lived there in 7 years.

[bucknuticus]

I'm from Tampaish. Not sure if I can help, I haven't lived there in 7 years.

Just wondering how the area would be for early to mid 20 year old. What's the housing/apt prices like?

Reason I ask is I've got 2 job offers one staying here and one working for a startup company in Tampa. They pay about the same but if this startup takes off I would be in a very good position getting in on the ground floor.

[ConfusingJazz]

Do any of you Florida guys live in Tampa or have experiences living in the Tampa area?

Good cuban food.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I've only been in Tampa due to hurricaines.

Strip clubs still stayed open.

[LosDaddie]

Just wondering how the area would be for early to mid 20 year old. What's the housing/apt prices like? Reason I ask is I've got 2 job offers one staying here and one working for a startup company in Tampa. They pay about the same but if this startup takes off I would be in a very good position getting in on the ground floor.

Tampa is a fun city for a guy your age. Plenty of stuff to do, and Orlando is only a 1.5hr drive away.

Budget in about $1200/mo if you want a good apartment downtown. It's a semi-big city, and cost of living is going to be high.

[andycapps]

Just wondering how the area would be for early to mid 20 year old. What's the housing/apt prices like? Reason I ask is I've got 2 job offers one staying here and one working for a startup company in Tampa. They pay about the same but if this startup takes off I would be in a very good position getting in on the ground floor.

Have some friends that live there, cost of living is a lot higher than in Columbus area. So keep that in mind. Also, startup.

[Sirpopopop]

Nebraska was in the AAU when it joined the B1G. The AAU has been getting snobbier recently with some weird politics. Nebraska's removal from the AAU was by a couple votes, and 2 Big Ten schools, Michigan and Wisconsin, voted against Nebraska (WTF is up with that?) Regardless of that, Nebraska's academics are on a huge upswing even without the B1G, and that alone is going to dramatically accelerate the academics. Look at Penn State from when they joined the B1G until now. That'll be Nebraska in a decade or so

Yeah, I understand they were in the AAU when they were first admitted to the conference. However, if AAU membership truly mattered to the B1G, I'm sure Michigan & Wisconsin would have voted for Nebraska.

It really didn't matter.

Nebraska was the most profitable program amongst the expansion candidates within the B1G's footprint. It fulfilled the "academic check mark" at the time, even though I'm sure the B1G Presidents knew full well they were going to vote them out of the AAU. It was a no-brainer of a move. If the AAU mark was really that important to the Big 10, they could have chosen some less profitable but more secure AAU program that was also drooling for the invite like Iowa State, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, or Missouri.

As for research moving up without the designation - I wouldn't look at as some minor setback stevenson. It is going to affect UNL's ability to win research grants from the feds.

ChiTown is also right - Penn State was well regarded before they even joined the Big 10. They were in better shape before they joined the Big 10 than the shape Nebraska is in, during year one of joining the Big 10.

I think he was just arguing that Florida State has been very successful recently in a lot of sports with the help of the ACC. A move to the Big 12 would threaten that. Take for instance Baseball. Right now FSU is the number one team in the country. They play in a conference with 10 teams in the top 40 RPI. There are only 2 Big 12 teams in the top 50.

Again, I reiterate that Olympic Sports are meaningless in the grand equation of conference realignment. If Olympic Sports mattered, the Big East wouldn't have lost teams to the likes of the Big 12 as well.