[Ashhong]

I didn't like TDK as much as BB, so I don't have any vested interest apart from the unfair comparison, regardless of being able to roughly normalize data, there's something unfair about comparing a movie's OW when it opened in 2d and IMAX to one that opened in 2d, 3d, and 3d IMAX.

AFAIK, there is no higher price for IMAX 3D vs IMAX. At least at my theater.

[3N16MA]

AFAIK, there is no higher price for IMAX 3D vs IMAX. At least at my theater.

I get charged $18.99 for 3D and regular IMAX.

[XiaNaphryz]

John Carter jumps up from 38 to 12 due to Avengers:

John Carter zoomed up the domestic box office office chart from No. 38 the week before to No. 12 -- thanks to being paired with The Avengers at more than 150 drive-ins across the country. John Carter -- which resulted in a $200 million loss for Disney -- grossed $1.5 million and was up a staggering 1,223 percent over the previous weekend. The film's domestic gross is now $70.8 million, while it has grossed $208.2 million overseas. Those are big numbers, but a hefty production budget and marketing spend put Disney into the red. It's common practice for drive-ins to offer double features. Usually, however, it doesn't boost the older film's bottom line to such a degree. But Avengers did such massive business -- the film opened to $207.4 million, the biggest opening of all time --that it made a difference. The average cost of a drive-in ticket is $8. Studios don't disclose how they divvy up the ticket sales between two films playing in a double feature.

[Divvy]

Haha. Is john carter the theatrical equivalent of a remora?

[cutmeamango]

Maybe Nolan sees that and antecipate Batman's release so it can be paired up with The Avengers.

[Raistlin]

lol

[DoctorWho]

Maybe Nolan sees that and antecipate Batman's release so it can be paired up with The Avengers.

They generally pair up films from the same studio at drive-ins.

[KevinCow]

There are still drive-ins?

[FoneBone]

John Carter jumps up from 38 to 12 due to Avengers:

Weird as it may seem, this isn't the first time - same thing happened a few years ago:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend...wknd=21&p=.htm

(See: Wild Hogs).

[Superman00]

Monday: $18,898,999

Domestic: $226,337,707 32.2%
+ Foreign: $475,800,000 67.8%
= Worldwide: $702,137,707

8th largest Monday gross. At this rate, it will hit 900 million next Monday.

[Speedymanic]

IMAX Screen count Avengers - 275 TDK - 94 IMAX OW Gross Avengers - 15M (55k per theatre avg) TDK - 6.2M (66k per theatre avg) I did a similar calc here in the prediction thread.

Where did you find the breakdown? BOM?

Monday: $18,898,999 Domestic: $226,337,707 32.2% + Foreign: $475,800,000 67.8% = Worldwide: $702,137,707 8th largest Monday gross. At this rate, it will hit 900 million next Monday.

Slightly lower than the 20m mentioned before, but this weekend will be the real test.

[artist]

Where did you find the breakdown? BOM?

Nikki Finke.

[Superman00]

Where did you find the breakdown? BOM? Slightly lower than the 20m mentioned before, but this weekend will be the real test.

Gonna hit 1 billion in the next 2 weeks. Either way, it will either break the second week record or come close. It only need a 63% drop or better.

[Speedymanic]

Nikki Finke.

Thanks.

Gonna hit 1 billion in the next 2 weeks. Either way, it will either break the second week record or come close. It only need a 63% drop or better.

I think second week record will be broken, but not by much due to Dark Shadows coming out. Will take some business away from TA, even if it doesn't beat it, it was end up impacting its performance.

[3N16MA]

Nikki Finke.

He opening day estimate was way off. I think she just jumps the gun so that she can be first no matter how wrong her sources are.

[MrPink93485]

He opening day estimate was way off. I think she just jumps the gun so that she can be first no matter how wrong her sources are.

While she certainly wants to be first, the source is ultimately the same that provides to the studios I think.

What she is horrible at is extrapolating.

[vicissitudes]

Also in the midst of all the Avengers talk, Hunger games actually has a chance to hit 400m which would be really impressive.

[Solo]

Also in the midst of all the Avengers talk, Hunger games actually has a chance to hit 400m which would be really impressive.

I was mocked by certain parties for suggesting that weeks ago.

HO HO HO

[artist]

He opening day estimate was way off. I think she just jumps the gun so that she can be first no matter how wrong her sources are.

I'm taking her numbers, not estimates - i.e. after the opening weekend.

[Slayven]

John Carter jumps up from 38 to 12 due to Avengers:

The Avengers truly can save anything.

[artist]

Also in the midst of all the Avengers talk, Hunger games actually has a chance to hit 400m which would be really impressive.

I posted about this in the other thread.

Since no one pointed this out, HG set to overtake Potter's finale. Really insane and has an outside shot (crawl) at 400M. Avengers locked at 400M and a legit shot at 500M - spots #3 & 4 up for grabs.

[Escape Goat]

The Avengers may not be able to save John Carter, but you can be damn sure they'll avenge him.

[ViewtifulJC]

The Avengers truly can save anything.

Except from the people watching John Carter.

[Log4Girlz]

The Avengers may not be able to save John Carter, but you can be damn sure they'll avenge him.

I wonder if Steve Rogers read any of the Barsoom series.

[Solo]

The fact that there is now potential for FOUR $400M (Hunger Games, Avengers, TDKR, Hobbit) films this year is insane.

[Slayven]

The Avengers may not be able to save John Carter, but you can be damn sure they'll avenge him.

Disney should have went with Killraven.

[jett]

The fact that there is now potential for FOUR $400M (Hunger Games, Avengers, TDKR, Hobbit) films this year is insane.

dat movie ticket pricehike

[a secret-boss]

Saw the avengers at noon yesterday (1st showing) theater was crowded. Hot damn

[kswiston]

Monday: $18,898,999 Domestic: $226,337,707 32.2% + Foreign: $475,800,000 67.8% = Worldwide: $702,137,707 8th largest Monday gross. At this rate, it will hit 900 million next Monday.

Yesterday the Overseas total was at $447M the Domestic total was $207. So basically the movie made $28M overseas and 19M domestically yesterday. That is $47M on a Monday.

There is no way this movie is not over $800M by the end of Thursday. That would only be $33M a day on average. With good holds, it could average 38-40M a day, and be closer to $820M heading into the weekend. By the end of the weekend, it will be closer to $1 billion than $900m. It even has a shot at crossing that barrier this weekend.

[artist]

Yesterday the Overseas total was at $447M the Domestic total was $207. So basically the movie made $28M overseas and 19M domestically yesterday. That is $47M on a Monday. There is no way this movie is not over $800M by the end of Thursday. That would only be $33M a day on average. With good holds, it could average 38-40M a day, and be closer to $820M heading into the weekend. By the end of the weekend, it will be closer to $1 billion than $900m. It even has a shot at crossing that barrier this weekend.

FWIW, Avatar and DH2 took 19 days to cross 1B.

[Mrbob]

Monday: $18,898,999 Domestic: $226,337,707 32.2% + Foreign: $475,800,000 67.8% = Worldwide: $702,137,707

TDK is finished in this battle already.

[shintoki]

Yesterday the Overseas total was at $447M the Domestic total was $207. So basically the movie made $28M overseas and 19M domestically yesterday. That is $47M on a Monday. There is no way this movie is not over $800M by the end of Thursday. That would only be $33M a day on average. With good holds, it could average 38-40M a day, and be closer to $820M heading into the weekend. By the end of the weekend, it will be closer to $1 billion than $900m. It even has a shot at crossing that barrier this weekend.

Its crossing a billion over the weekend. At least 200mil+ WW

So like, I'm having a blast with movies this year. 3/3. The Raid, The Grey, and now Avengers all delivered for me.

[Scullibundo]

TDK is finished in this battle already.

Don't count the bat out yet. It's easy to forget how small the markets for China and Russia were in 2008. In fact, TDK was pulled from Chinese cinemas for a while due to the a certain Lau extraction scene if I remember correctly.

TDKR could still topple The Avengers and I still believe it will.

[kavinsky]

Don't count the bat out yet. It's easy to forget how small the markets for China and Russia were in 2008. In fact, TDK was pulled from Chinese cinemas for a while due to the a certain Lau extraction scene if I remember correctly. TDKR could still topple The Avengers and I still believe it will.

Maybe domestic. But not overall, or worldwide.
No 3D. Not family friendly.
Let's think about it. TDK with all the hype, barely crossed the $1B mark.
Avengers is looking to do that by next week.

[jett]

FWIW, Avatar and DH2 took 19 days to cross 1B.

Avengers will have to cross that mark by Saturday to beat the record, chances are high it will.

[Scullibundo]

Maybe domestic. But not overall, or worldwide. No 3D. Not family friendly. Let's think about it. TDK with all the hype, barely crossed the $1B mark. Avengers is looking to do that by next week.

I agree that it not being family friendly could be its downfall. Though I'm saying don't count it out. There will be plenty of hype leading up to the release of TDKR after TDK put Batman on the map for most audiences worldwide.

I still think TDKR can topple Avengers worldwide. I think The Hobbit will slaughter both.

[artist]

I agree that it not being family friendly could be its downfall. Though I'm saying don't count it out. There will be plenty of hype leading up to the release of TDKR after TDK put Batman on the map for most audiences worldwide. I still think TDKR can topple Avengers worldwide. I think The Hobbit will slaughter both.

[jett]

Maybe domestic. But not overall, or worldwide. No 3D. Not family friendly. Let's think about it. TDK with all the hype, barely crossed the $1B mark. Avengers is looking to do that by next week.

When TDK was released it was only the fourth movie to reach a billion, and the biggest box office success Warner Brothers had in its entire history. Nowadays crap like Alice in Wonderland and Transdongers make $1B. It's not what it used to be!

Honestly, it's getting annoying to see people keep downplaying TDK's success back in 2008.

[artist]

TDK was and still is a BO phenomenon. It was the only movie that opened huge and had incredible WOM that it got close to Cameron. Years later, with its records being broken by Twilight, Harry Potter (and Avengers now) and those movies failed to come even close to it's final gross let alone surpassing it. Even though Avengers OW was almost 27%, people are unsure if it will outgross TDK.

WW market has changed a lot and has seen exponential growth. Also IMO international audience rarely looks for quality, all they want is the promised spectacle and they're in.

[Dead]

TDK was and still is a BO phenomenon. It was the only movie that opened huge and had incredible WOM that it got close to Cameron. Years later, with its records being broken by Twilight, Harry Potter (and Avengers now) and those movies failed to come even close to it's final gross let alone surpassing it. WW market has changed a lot and has seen exponential growth. Also IMO international audience rarely looks for quality, all they want is the promised spectacle and they're in.

That explains why Inception did so well overseas

[artist]

That explains why LOTR did so well overseas

Fixed it for you. You're welcome, come back later. :)

[Cipherr]

Whedon with a $1B movie under his belt. Goddamn.

[kswiston]

I still think TDKR can topple Avengers worldwide. I think The Hobbit will slaughter both.

How much are you expecting out of the Hobbit? The Avengers should have no problem clearing $1.3B.

[Divvy]

I posted this in the Dark Shadow thread, but apparently it isn't stealing all of Avengers' IMAX screens. They struck a deal to share:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...ews%7CFilmNews

[Tobor]

Whedon with a $1B movie under his belt. Goddamn.

Sometimes, the good guys win.

[kswiston]

I posted this in the Dark Shadow thread, but apparently it isn't stealing all of Avengers' IMAX screens. They struck a deal to share: http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...ews%7CFilmNews

I have the feeling that with both the Harry Potter series and the Dark Knight series ending this year, IMAX won't be renewing that WB exclusivity contract.

[Scullibundo]

TDK was and still is a BO phenomenon. It was the only movie that opened huge and had incredible WOM that it got close to Cameron. Years later, with its records being broken by Twilight, Harry Potter (and Avengers now) and those movies failed to come even close to it's final gross let alone surpassing it. Even though Avengers OW was almost 27%, people are unsure if it will outgross TDK. WW market has changed a lot and has seen exponential growth. Also IMO international audience rarely looks for quality, all they want is the promised spectacle and they're in.

If 'Close to Cameron' means just over a $750m worldwide gap between TDK and Titanic.' then it was very close. :D

How much are you expecting out of the Hobbit? The Avengers should have no problem clearing $1.3B.

I'm honestly expecting 1.5 or more from The Hobbit.

[Attackthebase]

Sometimes, the good guys win.

Maybe, he'll return to the television scene and make something super rad again! But I fear he'll stay in filmmaking for the remainder of his career.

[Dead]

If Hobbit is great, then Titanic numbers are in play IMO

[artist]

If 'Close to Cameron' means just over a $750m worldwide gap between TDK and Titanic.' then it was very close. :D

First para - Domestic
Second para - WW

Obviously you've still not improved your comprehension skills broheim.