[Arken2121]

Hey guys, this is my first OT so bear with me. I am a huge fan of the series and played the first about 7 times. I keep hearing from previous threads that this game surpasses that of the first which I would find hard to believe because of how excellent it was. I am just about to start the 2nd and am very excited. =)

[aidan]

I'm envious of you.

[Arken2121]

I'm envious of you.

It's funny that I skipped the 2nd and played all the others.

edit: and not because I didn't want to but rather I couldn't find a copy.

[Aeana]

I hope you enjoy it. And make sure to turn the volume way up during the intro bits~

[theosi]

If I could play any game again for the first time, it'd be this one.

So good.

[pje122]

One of the best... enjoy it while you can...

[KAL2006]

Hey guys, this is my first OT so bear with me. I am a huge fan of the series and played the first about 7 times. I keep hearing from previous threads that this game surpasses that of the first which I would find hard to believe because of how excellent it was. I am just about to start the 2nd and am very excited. =)

Yet you just got around to playing the sequel now.

Anyway have fun, this is my favourite JRPG of all time, hell probably my favourite game of all time.

[Dark Schala]

You're in for a treat, OP. Perfects upon everything that the first did. They're like sister games to me, and GS2 is my favourite game ever.

Also, I hope you kept a Genso Suikoden 1 save and imported it into this. :3

[Arken2121]

One of the best... enjoy it while you can...

I believe it. The series is truly magical.

[Zomba13]

Seriously my favourite PS1 JRPG. Maybe My favourite JRPG ever. Such a fantastic game. Only bad bit is the translation is a little... off.

[Winnie the Pimp]

actually finding the game so i can buy it at a non ridiculous price is a meta game of it's own for me :(

[Grisby]

Never played 2? Man, you are in for a treat. The best game in the series and one of the best RPG's around.

I still get chills watching the intro video now and then.

[Arken2121]

You're in for a treat, OP. Perfects upon everything that the first did. They're like sister games to me, and GS2 is my favourite game ever. Also, I hope you kept a Genso Suikoden 1 save and imported it into this. :3

I do and hopefully it'll come in handy.

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Man it has been ages since I played this! It needs to join Suikoden and come to the PSone classics so I can get this and play it on the Vita when support comes (heck I would remote play it if I had to).

[Arken2121]

Funny story but Suikoden was the first rpg I got into on the PS1. Was totally hooked.

[Dark Schala]

I do and hopefully it'll come in handy.

Oh, it definitely will. :)

I play GS1 and GS2 almost annually because both games are very precious to me (easier now with the PSP collection). I get so envious of people who get to play it for the first time!

Only bad bit is the translation is a little... off.

Not just a little off. I sorta feel bad about it, though, since they didn't get a lot of input or feedback from Konami. It's too bad that the NA version has all the audio glitches and stuff...

[Aeana]

I was interested in doing a retranslation of the game at one point, but wasn't able to find a hacker. I think someone might be working on the PSP versions though.

[Like the hat?]

My absolute favorite rpg. I need to play through it again. It is so wonderful.

Can you do remote play with a vita and play a ps1 cd that is in your ps3? If so, I know what I'm doing tonight.

[zlatko]

In my top 5 games of my life. Not sure how it withstands the test of time though.

Story, characters, things to do, the world, the battle system, and OH the music.

Nails everything.

[BlueTsunami]

Hmmm, thread makes me want to play through it again. Are there any good straightforward guides to get all the stars of destiny?

[Meccanical]

I wish I could play Suikoden II...

[Lord-Audie]

Oh, it definitely will. :) I play GS1 and GS2 almost annually because both games are very precious to me (easier now with the PSP collection). I get so envious of people who get to play it for the first time!

You play them in Japanese ?

I was interested in doing a retranslation of the game at one point, but wasn't able to find a hacker. I think someone might be working on the PSP versions though.

Source?

[scy]

I was interested in doing a retranslation of the game at one point, but wasn't able to find a hacker. I think someone might be working on the PSP versions though.

May perhaps be the greatest thing I have read all day.

[Patryn]

God, I love Suikoden 2. In fact, it was the one game that I got scary addicted to, and didn't leave my dorm room for like a week while I played it.

Especially being able to recruit McDohl, so good. Moreso because he's a total badass, the Soul Eater is one of the best runes, and his unite attack with the hero is one of the best.

[Dark Schala]

I was interested in doing a retranslation of the game at one point, but wasn't able to find a hacker. I think someone might be working on the PSP versions though.

Aw. That's too bad. :/

But it's nice to know that someone's likely finally working on the PSP collection.

The dialogue in both games is much better in Japanese, especially for GS2. There are only so many exclamation points, untranslated phrases, and ellipses I can take. :/

Are there any good straightforward guides to get all the stars of destiny?

There are likely some on GameFAQs (pick the second FAQ because I noticed that it goes through which characters you can recruit as you go through the narrative), but if you need help, just ask.

[Aeana]

You play them in Japanese ? Source?

Just some posts on RHDN, I don't know where they are now. I wouldn't get your hopes up for something anytime soon, either way.
I'd personally love to do a retranslation of Suikoden 2 if someone would do the hacking for me, since that's pretty out of my area.

[scy]

The dialogue in both games is much better in Japanese, especially for GS2. There are only so many exclamation points, untranslated phrases, and ellipses I can take. :/

...

!!

[Kikujiro]

I can't believe you're a fan of the series and you still have to play Suikoden 2. You're lucky.

[Finalow]

actually Suikoden 2 is the best, have fun and be sure to recruit everyone. :3

[-Pyromaniac-]

2 and 3 are my favourites with 1 close up there as well. Brilliant series for the most part.

[Dark Schala]

I wish I knew how to hack or do fantranslation stuff, but that's really out of my territory. :/

Anyway, you know what I love about this game? The character sprites and animations. They're so well-done, and very expressive.

Especially being able to recruit McDohl, so good. Moreso because he's a total badass, the Soul Eater is one of the best runes, and his unite attack with the hero is one of the best.

Mid/Endgame character spoiler talk:

His stats! I love him because of his stats. :3

I love playing around with any runes that he can use. He's just a damn powerhouse, and he's much better than Riou at level 99, as you can see explained in this old post of mine.

You play them in Japanese ?

Yes. But sometimes I get the itch to play them in English so I play either the PSN version of GS1 or the disc version of GS2. Those were the first versions I played, so I'm a little fond of them.

Plus the only way to play the Suikogaiden games (which provide some background for GS2 and GS3) are with the PS1 discs, so I do have to play those in Japanese. The novels are pretty cool. Manga's okay. The artbooks are amazing, but that's because Fumi Ishikawa's fantastic.

... !!

Oh man. More like:

"......Lord Riou................!!!!!!!!!!!"

"I am here to join your party!!!!!!"

[KingItachi]

I love Suikoden 2, to this I'm still kicking myself for not buying an extra copy in 99 becuase the cost to get it new in English is too damn high. :)

[edeo]

Can't remember the details, but I remember hearing that there are technical reasons that the US will never see a rerelease of Suikoden 2. I think they discussed these issues on Retronauts.

It's such a pity.

[Arken2121]

Oh wow 5 minutes in and I already see Flik and Viktor? haha, awesome.

[MCD]

I wish I could see Viktor's government trick again for the first time.

[Aeana]

I wish I knew how to hack or do fantranslation stuff, but that's really out of my territory. :/

I've managed to do some on my own. Like, I translated all of the books in all of the released Kiseki games except Ao and actually got them inserted back into the game no problem. But when it comes to hacking something like a PSX game, I'm clueless.

[Demigod Mac]

Just some posts on RHDN, I don't know where they are now. I wouldn't get your hopes up for something anytime soon, either way. I'd personally love to do a retranslation of Suikoden 2 if someone would do the hacking for me, since that's pretty out of my area.

Not out of the realm of possibility...



http://romhack.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3585#p95093

That's from the PSP version.

What's nice about it is that it's a true widescreen conversion (no stretching!) and you can walk diagonally in both games. I heard it's actually based on the PC versions of Suikoden I and II, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/inde...,10159.60.html

Someone has picked up the English translation of this, and his last update was on April 10, 2012. So, keep your fingers crossed!

[Grisby]

Funny story but Suikoden was the first rpg I got into on the PS1. Was totally hooked.

Mine too!

Long live Flik and Viktor. The best videogame bros ever.

[chickdigger802]

I remember the game had tons of incidental sprite animations during cutscenes.

Combat animations were top notch as well, and I recall being mind blown with turns all happening simultaneously.

[ULTROS!]

Probably one of the best JRPGs I've played. Don't forget to play the sidequests, they're the best. Also do get all 108 characters. IIRC, they're not much nor are that hard to miss except for Clive and Ayda. My only nitpick about this is the translation.

And yeah, Suikoden was technically my 2nd JRPG on the PSone (first was Beyond the Beyond).

Edit: oh, no wonder Golden Sun is quite similar to Beyond the Beyond in terms of battles. They're both by Camelot. Learned something new.

[Aeana]

I remember the game had tons of incidental sprite animations during cutscenes. Combat animations were top notch as well, and I recall being mind blown with turns all happening simultaneously.

[scy]

Mid/Endgame character spoiler talk:

Just getting to see the Soul Eater rune again is awesome enough. McDohl being awesome is just extra good :x

Oh man. More like: "......Lord Riou................!!!!!!!!!!!" "I am here to join your party!!!!!!"

..................!

Riou is quite expressive.

[Boulayman]

Suikoden 2 is by far my favourite rpg and one of my favourite games of all times.

[Newduck]

I didn't appreciate Suikoden 2 the first time through, i remember liking it but i don't recall thinking that much of it. I loved the first and have played through atleast 10 times. Had a US import version of both games.

I played through again recently on ripped version from the Go, spent ages trying to get the save to import correctly. Absolutely fantastic game. Even while basic in many areas it's probably one of the best RPGs out there.

The only part to me that's abit of a missed opportunity, and an issue with every game of the series. There's no 'late game'. Recruiting is it. Once you have your 108 person army there's never any decent sidequests to actually do with them.

Shame it's a dead series, 3 and 5 were still good enough to keep things going.

[Dark Schala]

What's nice about it is that it's a true widescreen conversion (no stretching!) and you can walk diagonally in both games. I heard it's actually based on the PC versions of Suikoden I and II, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

A bit. You can certainly walk diagonally, and it looks nice (it almost seems like some of the bits were added and redone since it's now in widescreen). The Matilda glitch has been removed from the PSP version of GS2.

Rune sequences and Unite attacks are much faster than the original PSX version.
Genso Suikoden's opening movie is from the Saturn version. It's much better than the crappy PSX one.

Also, a really nice addition, imo, is that during strategic war portions, the music can change depending on how well you're faring in battle. It was reminiscent of GS1.

But thank goodness they didn't use the same models as the PC version. I know Akselziys posted the PC models in the last LTTP thread. Edit: here.

Just getting to see the Soul Eater rune again is awesome enough. McDohl being awesome is just extra good :x

Seriously. I love that rune too. This is where you would avatar quote me, but that would just spoil the OP. lol.

..................! Riou is quite expressive.

My favourites are the exclamation marks that slowly fill into the text box.

......! ! ! ! !

I've managed to do some on my own. Like, I translated all of the books in all of the released Kiseki games except Ao and actually got them inserted back into the game no problem. But when it comes to hacking something like a PSX game, I'm clueless.

That's really cool, though. I'm impressed. Were you considering doing a translation for the unreleased Kiseki games one day?

[Augemitbutter]

one of the best RPGs in video game history. enjoy every minute of it.

And yeah, Suikoden was technically my 2nd JRPG on the PSone (first was Beyond the Beyond).

same here. i remember buying Suiko 1 blindly and exchanging recruiting tips with the store owner. he told me how to recruit crowley. scratch that, he actually showed me how in his store, because i couldn't find him on my own.

[scy]

This is where you would avatar quote me, that that would just spoil the OP. lol.

Hah, yup. Greatest moment was going from S1 to S2 and learning that. So good. Part of what made Suikoden so great to me was the general story connection of S1->S2 and seeing McDohl again.

My favourites are the exclamation marks that slowly fill into the text box. ......! ! ! ! !

Oh man, I forgot about those. I guess they really needed to fill the text boxes or something. So weird, really.

[Arken2121]

Holy shit I get busted out by Jowy and try to burst through Flik and he bitch slaps me with his sword

[Jay Sosa]

I really envy you. I had almost unrealistic expectations cause of all the praise when I played it for the first time a few years ago (my backlog is ridiculous) and it managed to not only meet but surpass them.

I still get teary eyed when I think about the awesome scene when Jowy returns

I had one MAJOR gripe though:

You have almost no shot at saving your baby sis without a guide, I really hate shit like that.

[Patryn]

I really envy you. I had almost unrealistic expectations cause of all the praise when I played it for the first time a few years ago (my backlog is ridiculous) and it managed to not only meet but surpass them. I still get teary eyed when I think about the awesome scene when Jowy returns I had one MAJOR gripe though: You have almost no shot at saving your baby sis without a guide, I really hate shit like that.

Is it wrong that I almost prefer the non-perfect ending? My favorite ending has to be you don't have all 108 but you go to face Jowy on that mountain. So bittersweet, so nice.