bucknuticus
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(05-09-2012, 05:19 PM)

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Originally Posted by andycapps: View Post
Have some friends that live there, cost of living is a lot higher than in Columbus area. So keep that in mind. Also, startup.
I expect it to be a bit more, and the startup is somewhat nerve wrecking. It does have a billion dollars behind it as well as investors so in confident in it. If it doesn't workout I can always comeback, I think I would kick myself if I didn't try it.
andycapps
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Originally Posted by bucknuticus: View Post
I expect it to be a bit more, and the startup is somewhat nerve wrecking. It does have a billion dollars behind it as well as investors so in confident in it. If it doesn't workout I can always comeback, I think I would kick myself if I didn't try it.
I guess in this economy I'd just naturally favor the more established company that didn't require me to move so far away. But at your age if you have money to fall back on, or if you can move back in with family if it goes south, you should be okay. If you've never lived out of state it'd be a good experience for you. Also, from what I hear, Tampa is great.
yellowjacket25
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#4903

Originally Posted by Sirpopopop: View Post
Again, I reiterate that Olympic Sports are meaningless in the grand equation of conference realignment. If Olympic Sports mattered, the Big East wouldn't have lost teams to the likes of the Big 12 as well.
So your argument is that nothing matters in conference realignment except football? I'm not sure that is really true. Especially to a school who is competitive in so many sports.
Sirpopopop
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket25: View Post
So your argument is that nothing matters in conference realignment except football? I'm not sure that is really true. Especially to a school who is competitive in so many sports.
Yeah, pretty much.

Other matters only matter so much, when the football part of the equation is equal. If the football part of the equation is not equal, then it is the only stake that matters.

You would be hard pressed to find any move that violates the above rule.
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#4905

ACC looks to have just signed a 15yr deal with ESPN at $17 million per team per year. Not bad.
Sirpopopop
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#4906

I bet the rumors had something to do with that bump.
Lonestar
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(05-09-2012, 07:20 PM)

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Originally Posted by GoldenEye 007: View Post
ACC looks to have just signed a 15yr deal with ESPN at $17 million per team per year. Not bad.
SEC teams are rubbing their hands, gleefully looking forward to the renegotiation's >:D
MightyHealthy
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#4908

Originally Posted by cashman: View Post
Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever


This is awesome for so many reasons.
ConfusingJazz
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#4909

Originally Posted by GoldenEye 007: View Post
ACC looks to have just signed a 15yr deal with ESPN at $17 million per team per year. Not bad.
Still 3 million less then the Big 12 and tier 3 rights.

Also, I wish all reporting of contracts were just per school per year.
jstevenson
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(05-09-2012, 07:29 PM)

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Originally Posted by Sirpopopop: View Post
Yeah, I understand they were in the AAU when they were first admitted to the conference. However, if AAU membership truly mattered to the B1G, I'm sure Michigan & Wisconsin would have voted for Nebraska.

It really didn't matter.

Nebraska was the most profitable program amongst the expansion candidates within the B1G's footprint. It fulfilled the "academic check mark" at the time, even though I'm sure the B1G Presidents knew full well they were going to vote them out of the AAU. It was a no-brainer of a move. If the AAU mark was really that important to the Big 10, they could have chosen some less profitable but more secure AAU program that was also drooling for the invite like Iowa State, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, or Missouri.

As for research moving up without the designation - I wouldn't look at as some minor setback stevenson. It is going to affect UNL's ability to win research grants from the feds.

ChiTown is also right - Penn State was well regarded before they even joined the Big 10. They were in better shape before they joined the Big 10 than the shape Nebraska is in, during year one of joining the Big 10.
Sure, Penn State was well-regarded, yet it still doubled its research spending thanks to B1G / CIC. I think those two will have a similar effect on Nebraska, though of course the AAU item hurts.
marathonfool
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(05-09-2012, 07:32 PM)

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#4911

When's the Big EAST going to get dat tv money?
yellowjacket25
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Originally Posted by ConfusingJazz: View Post
Still 3 million less then the Big 12 and tier 3 rights.

Also, I wish all reporting of contracts were just per school per year.
The ACC lacks a really big name team to boost TV money. If Notre Dame ever does make the conference jump, then the ACC should do everything possible to get them.
mre
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(05-09-2012, 07:56 PM)

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#4913

Originally Posted by cashman: View Post
Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever


You have got to be shitting me.
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Originally Posted by cashman: View Post
Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever


It's... full of stars...
andycapps
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#4915

Originally Posted by Lonestar: View Post
SEC teams are rubbing their hands, gleefully looking forward to the renegotiation's >:D
Seriously. Those payouts for SEC are going to be delish.
ConfusingJazz
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#4916

Originally Posted by cashman: View Post
Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever


...allegedly.
Affeinvasion
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(05-09-2012, 08:20 PM)

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#4917

Craig James Killed 5 Hookers?

Subtle.
GoldenEye 007
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Originally Posted by marathonfool: View Post
When's the Big EAST going to get dat tv money?
BEAST opens negotiations with ESPN in September. Then open negotiations begin in like October or November.

Edit: Yup, I'll be rooting for WSU as my second team as long as Leach is there.
Lonestar
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Originally Posted by andycapps: View Post
Seriously. Those payouts for SEC are going to be delish.
Unfortunately, ESPN's charge on cable bills will become astronomical.
mre
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Originally Posted by Affeinvasion: View Post
Craig James Killed 5 Hookers?

Subtle.
I would just like to point out that Coach doesn't actually believe this statement or advocate it in anyway. In fact, Coach was asked to sign "CJK5H" without knowledge as to what that phrase actually stood for.
Lonestar
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Oh, I saw that post earlier, didn't put the code together. Very Nice, Mr. Leach. Very Nice.
bluemax
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#4922

Originally Posted by Affeinvasion: View Post
Craig James Killed 5 Hookers?

Subtle.
It took me a little bit to get it, but its still glorious.
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Originally Posted by cashman: View Post
Mike Leach is officially coach of the forever


LOL! I've been to a book signing and it's not uncommon for them to use some sort of short form message so I'm sure he can come up with a meaning that's less offensive if someone comes calling, but that's amazing.

When I had Ready Player One signed, Ernie Cline signed it MTFBWY or something similarly Star Wars-y.
Lonestar
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(05-09-2012, 09:18 PM)

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#4924

Remember The Five
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
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timetokill
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Gotta love it. Took me a sec to get the CJK5H but man, so good
Last edited by timetokill; 05-09-2012 at 10:42 PM.
BertramCooper
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I can't wait for Craig James' book, which will hopefully be a how-to guide on how to murder five hookers at SMU.

Allegedly.

EDIT: Aaaaaand I just now understood what CJK5H means.
Last edited by BertramCooper; 05-09-2012 at 10:48 PM.
mre
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Originally Posted by ChiTownBuffalo: View Post
You have got to be shitting me.
Z_Y
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(05-09-2012, 11:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by GoldenEye 007: View Post
ACC looks to have just signed a 15yr deal with ESPN at $17 million per team per year. Not bad.
?

Yes...it is pretty bad. $16 million per team after the ACC head office takes their cut...and that includes tier 3 rights. To put it in perspective the Big XII deal is worth nearly $21 million and that's without a conference championship game and doesn't include tier 3 rights in which most cases can be worth another 5-7 million per team.

If an ACC team jumps to the Big XII they could make another $10 million plus more per year easily. This ACC deal is pretty laughable in comparison.
impirius
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#4930

I can't wait for the CJK5H signs at Wazzu this season. Yet another reason to watch.
SerArthurDayne
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#4931

Originally Posted by Z_Y: View Post
?

Yes...it is pretty bad. $16 million per team after the ACC head office takes their cut...and that includes tier 3 rights. To put it in perspective the Big XII deal is worth nearly $21 million and that's without a conference championship game and doesn't include tier 3 rights in which most cases can be worth another 5-7 million per team.

If an ACC team jumps to the Big XII they could make another $10 million plus more per year easily. This ACC deal is pretty laughable in comparison.
Picture of ACC championship games of the past goes here.








Yes, I get it. Teams with small fanbases didn't want to travel hundreds of miles for a shitty game.
yellowjacket25
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(05-10-2012, 02:01 AM)

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#4932

Originally Posted by Z_Y: View Post
?

Yes...it is pretty bad. $16 million per team after the ACC head office takes their cut...and that includes tier 3 rights. To put it in perspective the Big XII deal is worth nearly $21 million and that's without a conference championship game and doesn't include tier 3 rights in which most cases can be worth another 5-7 million per team.

If an ACC team jumps to the Big XII they could make another $10 million plus more per year easily. This ACC deal is pretty laughable in comparison.
That's not entirely accurate. The ACC has no Tier 3 rights for any of its football games because they sold them to ESPN. They still have their other Tier 3 rights in radio and some other forms of media. The Big 12 teams have one Tier 3 football game they can sell, and some Tier 3 basketball games. Those aren't going to be worth an incredible amount. There is no team in the ACC that would get anywhere near 10 million more by moving.
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket25: View Post
That's not entirely accurate. The ACC has no Tier 3 rights for any of its football games because they sold them to ESPN. They still have their other Tier 3 rights in radio and some other forms of media. The Big 12 teams have one Tier 3 football game they can sell, and some Tier 3 basketball games. Those aren't going to be worth an incredible amount. There is no team in the ACC that would get anywhere near 10 million more by moving.
Speaking of tier 3 rights on basketball games... UConn just got a multi-year tier 3 agreement with a network for women's basketball at like $1.14 million a year. Fucking crazy.
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket25: View Post
That's not entirely accurate. The ACC has no Tier 3 rights for any of its football games because they sold them to ESPN. They still have their other Tier 3 rights in radio and some other forms of media. The Big 12 teams have one Tier 3 football game they can sell, and some Tier 3 basketball games. Those aren't going to be worth an incredible amount. There is no team in the ACC that would get anywhere near 10 million more by moving.
Umm. Texas is getting a fucking shitload for tier 3 rights.
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Originally Posted by StoOgE: View Post
Umm. Texas is getting a fucking shitload for tier 3 rights.
They do? From what I remember last season, they couldn't even get their tier 3 games on TV.
sharbhund
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Originally Posted by StoOgE: View Post
Umm. Texas is getting a fucking shitload for tier 3 rights.
I don't think another school will be able to get ESPN to fall for that again.
Schmitty
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I have exited the cave of finals to learn that OSU @ PSU this year is a night game...sweet. Let's hope BOB can build a team
yellowjacket25
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Originally Posted by StoOgE: View Post
Umm. Texas is getting a fucking shitload for tier 3 rights.
You are missing my point. I wasn't saying that you can't make good money in Tier 3 rights, im saying the difference in available Tier 3 rights between the ACC and the Big 12 isn't going to be that large for most teams. FSU makes around 7 million in Tier 3 rights. If they moved to the Big 12 they could sell one football game against a really bad team, and a few basketball games against out of conference opponents. How much extra would that really be worth?
bucknuticus
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Originally Posted by Schmitty: View Post
I have exited the cave of finals to learn that OSU @ PSU this year is a night game...sweet. Let's hope BOB can build a team
Well its 6pm, so kind of a night game lol. What a weird fucking time for a game, especially a B1G game.
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Originally Posted by sharbhund: View Post
I don't think another school will be able to get ESPN to fall for that again.
Oklahoma is getting a deal like that from what I understand.
JCX
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Tennessee Transfer DeAnthony Arnett can play for Michigan State in 2012

Glad this was allowed, especially after all the initial stonewalling Tennessee did. Also leaves me more confident in our passing game.
ConfusingJazz
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That ACC deal looks alright when you consider its the best deal a basketball conference ever got.
bluemax
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#4943

Lynn Swann started the whole players conducting the band thing! Who knew?

Quote:
Bartner: One of the great things about this night is Lynn Swann will be the emcee. He was the first player to run over to the band after a game, grab the sword, climb the ladder and lead the band in Conquest. He was the first one to do that! I couldn’t pick a better guy to be the emcee. I’ve had so many former players come up to me, time after time over the years, and tell me they get goose bumps when we play the fight song. All those great memories come back to them instantly when they hear it. Junior Seau came up and gave me a hug at the spring game a few weeks ago, he had a big smile on his face listening to the band.
Q & A with Dr. Bartner on his induction into the USC Athletics Hall of Fame.
Lonestar
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...layoff-hell-no

Quote:
It was just yesterday that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told the AP that he wasn't a fan of "some teams that don't win their own division" playing for a national championship--a team, like, say, Alabama.

So maybe it's coincidence and maybe it's not that on the Tim Brando Show Thursday, Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban fired away -- or possibly "back" -- at "some of these people in these leagues" who out of "self-preservation purposes" have proposed limiting the coming playoff to conference champions only. And does Saban think such a plan would "accomplish what we set out to accomplish" in the overhaul of the BCS?

"Hell no," he said. Your move, Mr. Delany.
:lol
sharbhund
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Originally Posted by Sirpopopop: View Post
Oklahoma is getting a deal like that from what I understand.
I don't think the revenue for that deal has been announced, but it's believed to be for far less than what ESPN is paying Texas. On the other hand, OU fans (and UT fans) will actually be able to watch the network.
andycapps
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Originally Posted by Lonestar: View Post
If Delany really thinks that conference champions are the only ones eligible for the final 4, then they need to have a championship game. I don't think you need to win your conference, because then it's tied to the BCS conferences, but the B1G does need a championship game anyway.
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Originally Posted by andycapps: View Post
If Delany really thinks that conference champions are the only ones eligible for the final 4, then they need to have a championship game. I don't think you need to win your conference, because then it's tied to the BCS conferences, but the B1G does need a championship game anyway.
2 things:

1. B1G has a conference championship game.
2. Delaney is proposing the hybrid model. Top 6 eligible, take the top four conference champions. If not enough conference champions in top six, take the top non-conference champions. Defends conference champions while also keeping the top end of the rankings.

Carry on
andycapps
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Originally Posted by jstevenson: View Post
2 things:

1. B1G has a conference championship game.
2. Delaney is proposing the hybrid model. Top 6 eligible, take the top four conference champions. If not enough conference champions in top six, take the top non-conference champions. Defends conference champions while also keeping the top end of the rankings.

Carry on
True, they do have one now. Delaney's plan will never happen though. We're lucky to be getting a final 4.
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Originally Posted by andycapps: View Post
True, they do have one now. Delaney's plan will never happen though. We're lucky to be getting a final 4.
I think you underestimate the other conferences' willingness to screw the SEC.
andycapps
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Originally Posted by jstevenson: View Post
I think you underestimate the other conferences willingness to screw the SEC.
We'll see, the powers that be are already shitting their pants that they're losing the grasp of power that they have on the bowl arrangements and traditions that make the power brokers so rich. So a change to a final 4 and reworking the bowl tie ins is going to be enough for them to fret about. I don't really get a top 6 proposal.. I think the natural destination if you go beyond 4 is 8, but I think it'd change the game a bit too much for me... Maybe I'd warm up to it after we have the final 4 for a few years.