planar1280
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It's mine.
which app/software i meant?
TDK Rises
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(05-10-2012, 10:47 PM)

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#1552

Projecting $111 Million weekend
jett
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(05-10-2012, 11:31 PM)

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#1553

Originally Posted by TDK Rises: View Post
Projecting $111 Million weekend
wut. It's going to drop over 50% for sure.
artist
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Originally Posted by TDK Rises: View Post
Projecting $111 Million weekend
Source:

Road
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(05-10-2012, 11:40 PM)
#1555

From a quick glance, that'd be the best drop aside the first Spider-Man (comic book movies only).

Too optimistic, but who knows.

http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/c...=vs-marvel.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/c...id=vs-xmen.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/c...rsassemble.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/c...d=batmanvs.htm
ViewtifulJC
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(05-10-2012, 11:44 PM)

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#1556

$100 mil second weekend was my bet, and even I thought that was a little too nice.
artist
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#1557

Weekend forecasts are in a big range: from 97-111M. Depends if Dark Shadows can make an impact ..
Solo
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(05-11-2012, 01:29 AM)

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#1558

Even the "low end" estimate is $20M higher than any second weekend in history :lol
MrPink93485
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(05-11-2012, 01:32 AM)

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#1559

Seems like Dark Shadows is gaining some nice traction in other countries as a nice bit of counter programming, gonna go with 105 mil for Avengers and 40 million for Dark Shadows.
shira
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(05-11-2012, 01:34 AM)
#1560

Originally Posted by artist: View Post
Weekend forecasts are in a big range: from 97-111M. Depends if Dark Shadows can make an impact ..
I love that IMAX friendly deal wb has
jey_16
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(05-11-2012, 01:40 AM)

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#1561

WB has to defend Nolan's honour! I have seen a lot of dark shadows commercial, more then you normally see for most films
Tobor
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(05-11-2012, 01:45 AM)

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#1562

Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Even the "low end" estimate is $20M higher than any second weekend in history :lol
Yeah, that record is toast.
kswiston
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#1563

The Avengers Wednesday drop was a bit steeper than I expected (was expecting closer to a 18-20% drop), but drops on Monday and Tuesday were lighter than usual, so it will still end up in a good place heading into the weekend.

Thursday's gross should be pretty similar to today's gross, say $12.5-13M, which would give the Avengers $270M heading into the weekend.

Friday increases for Thor and Iron Man 2 averaged about 130% on this weekend during the past two years. If Avengers manages the same, it will get a Friday gross of $29-30M. With a standard 50% increase on Saturday and a 35% decrease on Sunday, the Avengers would make $100-104M for the weekend. If it followed the second weekend Fri/Sat increase and Sun drop of Spider-man 3, the Avengers would make over $125M this weekend. However, I don't think that is likely. Spider-man 3 had horrible weekday numbers.


With Steeper drops domestically and overseas on Wednesday, The Avengers won't quite make the $810M worldwide that I thought it would heading into this weekend. It should still break $800M today, but will need $195-200M internationally to tie the fastest to $1B record this weekend. It will be close.
Stinkles
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(05-11-2012, 02:20 AM)

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#1564

Serious not sexist question - do "chick" films always fall off a cliff after success?
Road
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(05-11-2012, 02:26 AM)
#1565

BOM predictions: http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3440&p=.htm

Forecast (May 11-13)
1. The Avengers - $95.4 million (-54%)
2. Dark Shadows - $33.3 million
DrForester
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(05-11-2012, 02:33 AM)

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#1566

Has any movie done $100+ in 2nd week?
kswiston
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#1567

The Dark Knight's first weekend was $49M behind the Avengers first weekend, but being a summer movie, it had better weekdays. Assuming the Avengers is at $270M tomorrow (which it will be, within $1m), the Dark Knight cut the Avengers lead to $35.5M after 1 week.

The Dark Knight was at $313M after its second weekend. The Avengers needs a $92M weekend to regain its initial $49M lead. I think that is quite feasible, and the Avengers may even increase that lead over TDK to $60M+ this weekend.

The Avengers needs to outgross TDK by $67M to break $600M.

$500M is locked at this point. $550M pretty close to locked, barring a 60%+ drop this weekend.


Originally Posted by DrForester: View Post
Has any movie done $100+ in 2nd week?
Avatar has the second Weekend record at $75.6M, so no. The Dark Knight made $75.1M on its second weekend. Shrek 2 and Spider-man 1 both had 70M+ second weekends as well. However, Shrek 2's second weekend was a Holiday weekend, as was Avatar's.
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ViewtifulJC
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(05-11-2012, 02:51 AM)

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#1568

Originally Posted by Stinkles: View Post
Serious not sexist question - do "chick" films always fall off a cliff after success?
Well Bridesmaids was really successful
witness
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#1569

Come on $100 million second weekend Avengers! I'll be doing my part seeing it again on saturday.

Crossing fingers for a Dark Shadows bomb.
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(05-11-2012, 03:00 AM)

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#1570

I kinda feel bad for Dark Shadows, I can't imagine what it must be like trying to launch a movie in the shadow of such a box-office juggernaut.

Oh wait, yes I can. :)
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#1571

Originally Posted by TDK Rises: View Post
Projecting $111 Million weekend
Anything's possible when Whedon's involved.
7Th
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(05-11-2012, 03:06 AM)

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#1572

Dark Shadows needs to bomb hard; the world has to give Burton a wake up call.
DaMan121
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(05-11-2012, 03:17 AM)
#1573

Originally Posted by Gary Whitta: View Post
I kinda feel bad for Dark Shadows, I can't imagine what it must be like trying to launch a movie in the shadow of such a box-office juggernaut.

Oh wait, yes I can. :)
lol

Quote:
Dark Shadows needs to bomb hard; the world has to give Burton a wake up call.
Judging just by the trailers only, this is the only Burton movie i actually feel like watching since sheesh, Big Fish maybe?
Discotheque
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(05-11-2012, 03:19 AM)

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#1574

I actually think Dark Shadows looks kinda....fun
Manmademan
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(05-11-2012, 03:23 AM)

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#1575

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post
Well Bridesmaids was really successful
So were Mamma Mia! and "My Big Fat Greek Wedding."

most of these films are character driven films (as opposed to special effects events) that appeal heavily to one gender, so its not that common to get breakout successes like this.

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Dark Shadows needs to bomb hard; the world has to give Burton a wake up call.
I don't think so. Dark Shadows is clearly a film that Depp/Burton/Bonham-Carter are doing because they think it's fun to do (as opposed to a soulless cash grab like BATTLESHIP) so i'm not going to hate on it.
Something tells me that even if he couldnt get major studio backing, he'd be making these things as independent films.
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Kusagari
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(05-11-2012, 03:29 AM)

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Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
The Avengers Wednesday drop was a bit steeper than I expected (was expecting closer to a 18-20% drop), but drops on Monday and Tuesday were lighter than usual, so it will still end up in a good place heading into the weekend.

Thursday's gross should be pretty similar to today's gross, say $12.5-13M, which would give the Avengers $270M heading into the weekend.

Friday increases for Thor and Iron Man 2 averaged about 130% on this weekend during the past two years. If Avengers manages the same, it will get a Friday gross of $29-30M. With a standard 50% increase on Saturday and a 35% decrease on Sunday, the Avengers would make $100-104M for the weekend. If it followed the second weekend Fri/Sat increase and Sun drop of Spider-man 3, the Avengers would make over $125M this weekend. However, I don't think that is likely. Spider-man 3 had horrible weekday numbers.


With Steeper drops domestically and overseas on Wednesday, The Avengers won't quite make the $810M worldwide that I thought it would heading into this weekend. It should still break $800M today, but will need $195-200M internationally to tie the fastest to $1B record this weekend. It will be close.
Avengers had the highest non summer Wednesday by more than 4 million. Movies always drop dramatically on Wednesday in non summer months, Avengers held great.
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I'd be a bit worried if I had a lot of money rolled up in Dark Shadows, I think Avengers is still going to be sucking all the oxygen out of the room this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Gary Whitta: View Post
I'd be a bit worried if I had a lot of money rolled up in Dark Shadows, I think Avengers is still going to be sucking all the oxygen out of the room this weekend.
Was Dark Shadows that expensive though? It's Depp, I can't imagine it being a flop given his BO pull world wide.

Originally Posted by DaMan121: View Post
lol

Judging just by the trailers only, this is the only Burton movie i actually feel like watching since sheesh, Big Fish maybe?
Same. It looks like a dark comedy, because it's a dark comedy. Not something Burton is turning into a dark comedy.
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(05-11-2012, 03:34 AM)

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#1579

Originally Posted by Good Job Bob: View Post
Anything's possible when Whedon's involved.
artist
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(05-11-2012, 03:41 AM)

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#1580

Originally Posted by DrForester: View Post
Was Dark Shadows that expensive though? It's Depp, I can't imagine it being a flop given his BO pull world wide.
100M.

Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Even the "low end" estimate is $20M higher than any second weekend in history :lol
Also 20M higher than Skyfall will probably make in it's OW. :lol
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post
100M.


Also 20M higher than Skyfall will probably make in it's OW. :lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Bond makes more from product deals than it does from box office at this point.
kswiston
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#1582

Originally Posted by Kusagari: View Post
Avengers had the highest non summer Wednesday by more than 4 million. Movies always drop dramatically on Wednesday in non summer months, Avengers held great.
A Marvel film has debuted on the first weekend of May for each of the last 6 years. The Avengers had the steepest Wednesday percentage drop of any of those films. However it had really good Monday and Tuesday holds, and judging by Thor's very similar drop last year (after an increase on Tuesday), it's probable that discount Tuesdays have become a bigger thing in the last year or two. My city has always had them, and they are often as busy as opening night for new releases.

Obviously a $13.6M Wednesday in the second week of May is amazing, but I was hoping for closer to $15M after seeing Monday and Tuesday's results.


Originally Posted by artist: View Post
Also 20M higher than Skyfall will probably make in it's OW. :lol
If 007 was going to blow up in North America, it would have done so with Quantum of Solace. The fact that the Borne movies grossed more during that same time frame leads me to believe that Americans just don't care about James Bond. The movies do alright here, but they will never be mega releases. Skyfall won't even have the privilege of making the bottom part of the annual top 10 like its predecessors did. This year is too packed. We already have 3 films over 200M, and TDKR, Brave, ASM, Twilight, and the Hobbit will all join that club.
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Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
If 007 was going to blow up in North America, it would have done so with Quantum of Solace. The fact that the Borne movies grossed more during that same time frame leads me to believe that Americans just don't care about James Bond. The movies do alright here, but they will never be mega releases. Skyfall won't even have the privilege of making the bottom part of the annual top 10 like its predecessors did. This year is too packed. We already have 3 films over 200M, and TDKR, Brave, ASM, Twilight, and the Hobbit will all join that club.
Yup, grandpa Craig will have to do with whatever seconds he's got after the big boys have done their thang. So much for Solo hyping up grandpa Craig's BO draw. :lol
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post
Yup, grandpa Craig will have to do with whatever seconds he's got after the big boys have done their thang. So much for Solo hyping up grandpa Craig's BO draw. :lol
He's 44, 3 years younger than RDJ.
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(05-11-2012, 04:09 AM)

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#1585

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
He's 44, 3 years younger than RDJ.
You couldn't tell really
Discotheque
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#1586

typical irfan trolling as usual. I hope Solo doesn't bite.

And also Craig does look older than RDJ. But he's got a fucking impressive body too.....
Hot Coldman
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Originally Posted by Discotheque: View Post
typical irfan trolling as usual. I hope Solo doesn't bite.

And also Craig does look older than RDJ. But he's got a fucking impressive body too.....
Important thing is, he's still good for the role. After Brosnan's ultra-sleek take on the character, I highly appreciate Craig's way more interesting version, and it's criminal we've only got 2 films out of that so far, one of which wasn't anything to write home about.

Skyfall will be killer. Luckily, I'm in the UK, where everyone will pay attention. ;)
artist
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#1588

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
He's 44, 3 years younger than RDJ.
Thats the joke. He looks way older and this is not just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Discotheque: View Post
typical irfan trolling as usual. I hope Solo doesn't bite.
Oh please stop being Solo's bitch. Everyone can poke fun at each other, you dont have to play the troll card.
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#1589

irfan isn't a troll. He's just woefully misguided and has awful taste. Also he's a troll.
kswiston
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(05-11-2012, 04:52 AM)

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#1590

Daniel Craig has always looked older. Here is him at about 26 years old:



Already looks like a 35 year old man.
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(05-11-2012, 04:57 AM)

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#1591

He fucking looks older in that picture than he looks now
Discotheque
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#1592

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
Important thing is, he's still good for the role. After Brosnan's ultra-sleek take on the character, I highly appreciate Craig's way more interesting version, and it's criminal we've only got 2 films out of that so far, one of which wasn't anything to write home about.

Skyfall will be killer. Luckily, I'm in the UK, where everyone will pay attention. ;)
Brosnan was like Roger Moore, only better. But still a bitch ass compared to the real men who played the role prior to him.

Daniel Craig is the second best now.
shagg_187
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#1593

Originally Posted by omnomis: View Post
Where is this interview from? I MUST KNOW!
MrPink93485
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#1594

Originally Posted by shagg_187: View Post
Where is this interview from? I MUST KNOW!
Behold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gIc_8pXUI
KuwabaraTheMan
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#1595

Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
$500M is locked at this point. $550M pretty close to locked, barring a 60%+ drop this weekend.
I think that's a little optimistic. Spider-Man 3 legs would have it falling just short of $500m, and Iron Man 2 would put it just shy of The Dark Knight. I think $500 or even $550 is possible, but I wouldn't call it a lock. $450m definitely is, but I could see it falling short of $500m. This weekend will determine a lot. Right now, there's a pretty big range of possibilities.
kswiston
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Originally Posted by KuwabaraTheMan: View Post
I think that's a little optimistic. Spider-Man 3 legs would have it falling just short of $500m, and Iron Man 2 would put it just shy of The Dark Knight. I think $500 or even $550 is possible, but I wouldn't call it a lock. $450m definitely is, but I could see it falling short of $500m. This weekend will determine a lot. Right now, there's a pretty big range of possibilities.
$500M is a lock. Spider man 3's first Wednesday was $6.7M. Iron Man 2's first Wednesday was just under $7M. If Avengers was following Spider-man 3, you would expect a $9.2M Wednesday. If Avengers was following Iron Man 2, you would expect a $11.3M Wednesday. It made $13.6M.

The Avengers following the rest of Spider-man 3's run after opening weekend meant the movie would get a ~$460M total. The Avengers following the rest of Spider-man 3's run after Wednesday's numbers means the movie would get a $492M total. When we get Thursday numbers, following Spider-Man 3's total will mean $500M. The fact that the extrapolation keeps increasing means that the Avengers is clearly not following Spider-man 3's run
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Dan
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#1597

Originally Posted by MrPink93485: View Post
I haven't watched this in so long. Bale's reaction is so fucking funny. His eyes shift to at least three different subjects as he processes what was just said. It's amazing.
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#1598

Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Even the "low end" estimate is $20M higher than any second weekend in history :lol
Christ. Watch them severely underestimate this weekend as well.

Originally Posted by Tobor: View Post
Yeah, that record is toast.
That was a given when last Saturday's estimates came in.

The real challenge will be the third weekend record. If, and I personally think that is a huge if, it manages to make the third weekend record, that will be a big upset.
kswiston
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Originally Posted by PhoncipleBone: View Post
Christ. Watch them severely underestimate this weekend as well.



That was a given when last Saturday's estimates came in.

The real challenge will be the third weekend record. If, and I personally think that is a huge if, it manages to make the third weekend record, that will be a big upset.
To have a chance at the third weekend record, Avengers needs a ridiculous second weekend. Like $115-120M. even then, it would need to drop 46% or less in its third weekend.
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PhoncipleBone
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Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
To have a chance at the third weekend record, Avengers needs a ridiculous second weekend. Like $120M. even then, it would need to drop 46% or less in its third weekend.
That is why it would be a big upset, and why I don't think it will happen.