[GhaleonEB]

The whole thing was way too sloppy to have been planned this way. Obama was already facing mounting pressure, including from donors. Biden forced the topic, and Obama respond with a hastily called request for an interview. His campaign has been way too organized to let such an issue be handled that way unless they were scrambling a bit.

[NullPointer]

Sorry if I'm late to this, but...

Mitt Romney said Thursday that same-sex couples should be allowed to adopt children, but they should not be married because children should be raised by a mother and a father.

WHAT. THE. FLYING. FUCK.

Mitt Romney said Thursday that same-sex couples should be allowed to adopt children

but they should not be married because children should be raised by a mother and a father.

Edit: OT thread here. My mind is still reeling.

[Copernicus]

Sorry if I'm late to this, but... WHAT. THE. FUCK??!!1

Republicans gonna be bigotans.

[NullPointer]

Republicans gonna be bigotans.

No surprise there, but this is truly some 1+1=Derp happening here. Real-time cognitive dissonance of epic proportions. The flip has fused with the flop and they are one.

I don't know how his circuitry can take it.

[thezerofire]

Sorry if I'm late to this, but... WHAT. THE. FLYING. FUCK.

Quantum Romney, holding all possible positions at once

[Officerrob]

Sorry if I'm late to this, but... WHAT. THE. FLYING. FUCK.

What the.......I'm not even sure how to respond to that

[Copernicus]

No surprise there, but this is truly some 1+1=Derp happening here. Real-time cognitive dissonance of epic proportions. The flip has fused with the flop and they are one. I don't know how his circuitry can take it.

They're pretty much in a position where they can't say anything except what they really believe, and that is, undoubtedly "gay people are inferior".

It's for the better in the end.

[Aaron Strife]

The whole thing was way too sloppy to have been planned this way. Obama was already facing mounting pressure, including from donors. Biden forced the topic, and Obama respond with a hastily called request for an interview. His campaign has been way too organized to let such an issue be handled that way unless they were scrambling a bit.

Oh yeah, this probably wasn't their preferred timing. But I think the Obama camp handled it extremely well.

If they'd punted, it would have looked bad. Obama wasted no time clarifying his new position, and now they have Romney playing defense.

[GhaleonEB]

Sorry if I'm late to this, but... WHAT. THE. FLYING. FUCK. Edit: OT thread here. My mind is still reeling.

That makes my brain hurt.

[PantherLotus]

Also, it's such an easy attack to counter. If I was in Obama's campaign I would run an ad that goes like this - "The GOP want us to not talk about killing Bin Laden We respect their opinion, and their entitled to it, but we're going to have an disagree on that". Then cut to this.

Sorry if this is pages back at this point, still catching up on today's reading. Anyway, I'm moved to comment because I can't help but think of how a Dem-Rove would frame Republican objections to touting the Bid Laden raid:

ONE YEAR AGO,
PRESIDENT OBAMA STOOD UP FOR AMERICA
AND ORDERED THE RAID THAT KILLED THE MOST WANTED MAN IN HISTORY.

NOW, MITT ROMNEY SAYS AMERICA SHOULDN'T BE PROUD OF OUR TRIUMPH.

ARE YOU PROUD OF AMERICA, KNOWING THAT YOU ARE SAFER WITH THE MAN BEHIND 9/11 FINALLY RECEIVING JUSTICE? STAND WITH US, AND STAND WITH THE PRESIDENT.

SAY NO TO BEING ASHAMED OF AMERICA'S SUCCESS! SAY NO TO ROMNEY!


###

The key is to conflate "America" with Obama at every turn, then preying on manufactured patriotism make Romney look like a complete pussy. "Wait, no, I'm glad we got him, just...I'll take credit for it."

[Chichikov]

I wasn't actually being sarcastic or trying to be Rovian.
I would like the dems to run ads along those lines.
The audacity of the whole "spiking the ball" talking point just pisses me off, and I'm certain the american public would be fine with seeing pictures like this again -



Oh, and before the partisan warriors come and poop all over this post, let me say that I have no doubt that we would've seen similar sentiment from the left had Bush killed Bin Laden.

It would've had a slightly different flavor.
More stuff like "it's barbaric to celebrate death" and "we should've brought him to trail".
But the conspiracy theories about the body and timing would've been pretty much the same.

It's not a conservative vs. liberals issues.
It's politicians, and the fact that their number one priority is getting elected.
It's important we stop rewarding that stupidity.

[PantherLotus]

What Romney did as a teen/young adult is irrelevant to who he is as a person now. Kids of all stripes do cruel things to their classmates, me included. These people grow up and learn from what they've done and become completely different adults, not at all defined by the mistakes they made as youngsters. Yes, Romney is disingenuous to try to call them "pranks" and pretend he doesn't remember them, and yes they are very cruel, but that's what kids are - cruel. Just like it was retarded for Romney to call out Obama for eating dog meat as a kid, it's silly for Obama or any of the Democrats to call out incidents as a child. Including experimentation with drugs or whatever. This is called growing up.

Again, I'm late to the party, but this defense is bullshit. Sorry Ami. All kids aren't cruel, much less most of them.

The reason this story holds water, the reason this is important (politically), and the reason why it matters (psychologically) is because, just like abusing animals, it reveals an intense disassociation and complete lack of empathy.

There's a difference between making fun of people and rounding up a gang of WASPs to jump on and maim someone because they're different.

The responses I've read from liberal GAF dismissing this story or thinking this is beneath the Obama campaign to exploit (at least so far, I'm a couple pages back), really don't grasp the gravity of what was done.

Maybe I've always been a bleeding heart while being blind to childhood cruelty. I've known what it's like to be an outsider (though most teens believe the same thing), but I've never known a non-pyschopath to assault a gay person.

That this is coming from the same man that doesn't understand the implication of firing people (or why you shouldn't joke about it), doesn't see anything wrong with zero-accountability free market cronyism, doesn't see anything wrong with evading taxes while running for President, and doesn't understand equality or justice or suffering under absolutely any pretense is no coincidence.

This story doesn't mean much to most of you guys, I guess, nor will it probably move the needle anywhere other than those that were bullied or those that knew someone that was bullied but were still on the fence. But it does change my opinion. I used to think he was just a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of moderation, but now I think he's a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of cruelty.

[Chichikov]

Again, I'm late to the party, but this defense is bullshit. Sorry Ami. All kids aren't cruel, much less most of them. The reason this story holds water, the reason this is important (politically), and the reason why it matters (psychologically) is because, just like abusing animals, it reveals an intense disassociation and complete lack of empathy. There's a difference between making fun of people and rounding up a gang of WASPs to jump on and maim someone because they're different. The responses I've read from liberal GAF dismissing this story or thinking this is beneath the Obama campaign to exploit (at least so far, I'm a couple pages back), really don't grasp the gravity of what was done. Maybe I've always been a bleeding heart while being blind to childhood cruelty. I've known what it's like to be an outsider (though most teens believe the same thing), but I've never known a non-pyschopath to assault a gay person. That this is coming from the same man that doesn't understand the implication of firing people (or why you shouldn't joke about it), doesn't see anything wrong with zero-accountability free market cronyism, doesn't see anything wrong with evading taxes while running for President, and doesn't understand equality or justice or suffering under absolutely any pretense is no coincidence. This story doesn't mean much to most of you guys, I guess, nor will it probably move the needle anywhere other than those that were bullied or those that knew someone that was bullied but were still on the fence. But it does change my opinion. I used to think he was just a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of moderation, but now I think he's a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of cruelty.

I can already see we will never reach an agreement on this, I'm guessing because we had very different childhoods.

I just don't see anything shocking or terrible in those stories.
Shit like that happened all the time when I was a kid, and even worse.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying kids are stupid and don't know better.
And I'm saying you can do such things and grow up to be a normative person, at least I hope I am.

[PantherLotus]

Do you find Obama's admitted drug usage or Bill Clinton's philandering to be similarly informative about their capacity for effective governance? He's not running for relater-to-people-in-chief. It should be clear that I think Romney would be a terrible president, but the idea that we should use his bad behavior in high school to inform that conclusion is absolutely risible.

I've seen this defense a lot as well. I think there's a difference between experimenting with drugs -- a personal choice -- and inflicting physical, emotional, and permanent pyschological pain by torturing someone.

I could be wrong, but ask a room of 1000 people how many assaulted a gay person and ask the same room how many smoked a blunt and snorted a few lines and I think you'll see a teeny-tiny difference. Or, all of them.

I mean, how many people in PoliGAF have assaulted gay people in their lives? You can put me on the "didn't particpate in assaulting gay people ever" column.

[RDreamer]

So, a video of Scott Walker came out today. In it his biggest donor asks if he's going to make this a completely red state and become a right-to-work state. He said it's part of his strategy, and he's going to divide and conquer. The first step in his plan was to hit the public unions.

[PantherLotus]

Yeah. This reminds me of a big post I made a while back comparing the (crazily, unbelievably shitty) Romney campaign site to Obama's site. It's one of the most well-crafted sites I've ever seen and I come from a web design background.

I would like to note that your use of drop shadow on the text you've used throughout your design critique is particularly appalling, but your comments are salient.

[PhoenixPause]

So, a video of Scott Walker came out today. In it his biggest donor asks if he's going to make this a completely red state and become a right-to-work state. He said it's part of his strategy, and he's going to divide and conquer. The first step in his plan was to hit the public unions.

I respect Walker's drive do big stuff and worry about the politics later. I wish more democrats would behave like that on a state and federal level, especially early in terms.

[Snake]

The responses I've read from liberal GAF dismissing this story or thinking this is beneath the Obama campaign to exploit (at least so far, I'm a couple pages back), really don't grasp the gravity of what was done.

I came out pretty early in saying that this line of attack shouldn't be pursued, but a large part of that hesitance is based on our inability to prove the particulars of the event rather than a dismissal of the cruel implications behind it.

If it was 100% clear that (a) Romney did this, (b) he targeted this kid because he was gay, (c) this was malicious rather than a dumb prank, and (d) he chooses not to atone for this, then I would be loudly and proudly pursuing this story.

Out of those 4 points, (d) is the clincher but it is also the hardest to ascertain. We can't read Romney's mind. And even though his apology was weak and muddled it wasn't revealing enough to form alternative conclusions. I've seen so many people on the right spend the last four years pulling witch hunts out of thin air by claiming to know Obama's "true" intent, and maybe I'm too burned out by that kind of thinking to make sweeping judgments about Romney based on the current information.

[speculawyer]

I can already see we will never reach an agreement on this, I'm guessing because we had very different childhoods. I just don't see anything shocking or terrible in those stories. Shit like that happened all the time when I was a kid, and even worse. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying kids are stupid and don't know better. And I'm saying you can do such things and grow up to be a normative person, at least I hope I am.

But how old was he when he did this? I saw 18 somewhere but I don't know if that is true.

But he was probably at least as old as many teens who were tried as adults and are now locked up for life for committing murder.

If he was 12 or 13 . . . whatever.

Was he 15?

But if he was 16 or older, he knew better. You can certainly change . . . or . . . you could put your dog on your roof and have no issues with firing thousands of people.

[Oblivion]

Has this ad been posted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wnspxInJxHs

Very nice, concise, simple and effective.

[Diablos]

Dick fucking Lugar:

He and I share many positions, but his embrace of an unrelenting partisan mindset is irreconcilable with my philosophy of governance and my experience of what brings results for Hoosiers in the Senate. In effect, what he has promised in this campaign is reflexive votes for a rejectionist orthodoxy and rigid opposition to the actions and proposals of the other party. His answer to the inevitable roadblocks he will encounter in Congress is merely to campaign for more Republicans who embrace the same partisan outlook. He has pledged his support to groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it.

I tip my hat.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed

[speculawyer]

Dick fucking Lugar: I tip my hat. http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed

Damn. Maybe Donnelly can get an endorsement from Senator Lugar.

[Black Republican]

Dick fucking Lugar: I tip my hat. http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed

dat ether

[RobotChant]

Has it been mentioned that Ann Romney's comments about Mitt being a prankster, ect., was pre-spin in preparation for the WaPo story? According to Lawrence O'Donnell the Romney campaign was aware of the story before it was published. They knew the story was out there and yet Romney still struggled to explain himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Q_2GFQ6SI


At first I felt the story was tabloid fodder- even though it fit Mitt's profile. As small things like this are revealed, I do see this as legit story, another piece of the puzzle.

[Rocket Scientist]

Has this ad been posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wnspxInJxHs Very nice, concise, simple and effective.

Hot.

[Chumly]

Again, I'm late to the party, but this defense is bullshit. Sorry Ami. All kids aren't cruel, much less most of them. The reason this story holds water, the reason this is important (politically), and the reason why it matters (psychologically) is because, just like abusing animals, it reveals an intense disassociation and complete lack of empathy. There's a difference between making fun of people and rounding up a gang of WASPs to jump on and maim someone because they're different. The responses I've read from liberal GAF dismissing this story or thinking this is beneath the Obama campaign to exploit (at least so far, I'm a couple pages back), really don't grasp the gravity of what was done. Maybe I've always been a bleeding heart while being blind to childhood cruelty. I've known what it's like to be an outsider (though most teens believe the same thing), but I've never known a non-pyschopath to assault a gay person. That this is coming from the same man that doesn't understand the implication of firing people (or why you shouldn't joke about it), doesn't see anything wrong with zero-accountability free market cronyism, doesn't see anything wrong with evading taxes while running for President, and doesn't understand equality or justice or suffering under absolutely any pretense is no coincidence. This story doesn't mean much to most of you guys, I guess, nor will it probably move the needle anywhere other than those that were bullied or those that knew someone that was bullied but were still on the fence. But it does change my opinion. I used to think he was just a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of moderation, but now I think he's a rich, oblivious and entitled bastard with a streak of cruelty.

Talking about the situation with my wife I would have to agree. All this talk about how this stuff happened all the time is bullshit. Everyone has said things that they regret but to actually assault someone hold them down and cut there hair as a "prank". Most of the biggest assholes from my high school back in the day didn't even pull crap like this. I do believe in forgiveness for what has happened in the past but that only matters if your a changed man and Romney has shown none of that. Acting like bullying is ok because it happens to everyone is a load of crap.

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

According to Ashley Parker of the NY Times, the family of the kid who was allegedly bullied says it's bullshit.

From John Lauber’s family, the bullied victim in WaPo story: “We are aggrieved that John would be used to further a political agenda.”
Also from John Lauber’s family: “The portrayal of John is factually incorrect.”
This comes after one source for the story, a man the Washington Post says has “long been bothered” by the incident, said he wasn’t even present and had no idea it had happened until the Post contacted him.

How fucking low will these newspapers go to support their liberal agenda?

[quadriplegicjon]

According to Ashley Parker of the NY Times, the family of the kid who was allegedly bullied says it's bullshit. From John Lauber’s family, the bullied victim in WaPo story: “We are aggrieved that John would be used to further a political agenda.” Also from John Lauber’s family: “The portrayal of John is factually incorrect.” This comes after one source for the story, a man the Washington Post says has “long been bothered” by the incident, said he wasn’t even present and had no idea it had happened until the Post contacted him. How fucking low will these newspapers go to support their liberal agenda?

I read the whole comment. And she doesn't say it's bullshit at all, just that she was unaware it happened and it would have been like her brother to keep it from her. She did say he was not gay though, just eccentric.

[quadriplegicjon]

Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were "doing our own thing" at the time.

She described her brother as a "very unusual person." "He didn't care about running with the peer group," Christine Lauber said. "What's wrong with that?"

"Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn't have said anything," Christine Lauber said.

Here

[Chumly]

According to Ashley Parker of the NY Times, the family of the kid who was allegedly bullied says it's bullshit. From John Lauber’s family, the bullied victim in WaPo story: “We are aggrieved that John would be used to further a political agenda.” Also from John Lauber’s family: “The portrayal of John is factually incorrect.” This comes after one source for the story, a man the Washington Post says has “long been bothered” by the incident, said he wasn’t even present and had no idea it had happened until the Post contacted him. How fucking low will these newspapers go to support their liberal agenda?

lol..... How would the family know? Seriously? From his own sister

"Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn't have said anything," Christine Lauber said.

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

According to Ashley Parker of the NY Times, the family of the kid who was allegedly bullied says it's bullshit. From John Lauber’s family, the bullied victim in WaPo story: “We are aggrieved that John would be used to further a political agenda.” Also from John Lauber’s family: “The portrayal of John is factually incorrect.” This comes after one source for the story, a man the Washington Post says has “long been bothered” by the incident, said he wasn’t even present and had no idea it had happened until the Post contacted him. How fucking low will these newspapers go to support their liberal agenda?

Such a sadness

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

I read the whole comment. And she doesn't say it's bullshit at all, just that she was unaware it happened and it would have been like her brother to keep it from her. She did say he was not gay though, just eccentric.

What part of "factually incorrect" do you not understand?
Also:
Funny how a guy who wasn't there and never heard of the incident has been troubled for a long time by this incident. This story is really embarrassing for not only the Wash Post but for all the seemingly desperate people trumping it up.

[Rocket Scientist]

I would like to read these stories as I've only found the NYT article so far, which only talks about the political agenda blabla. Also found the ABC one now.

[eznark]

The writer portraying the guy as "long troubled by the incident" when he wasn't even there is the significant part of that story. Seems early for the WaPo to start Dan Rathering stories.

[cartoon_soldier]

Multiple people have confirmed the incident, so anyone saying it didn't happen is kidding themselves.

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

The writer portraying the guy as "long troubled by the incident" when he wasn't even there is the significant part of that story. Seems early for the WaPo to start Dan Rathering stories.

Not only wasn't he there. He had never even HEARD of it until the WP contacted him.
Is this what political journalism has come to? Is this what we want to talk about for the next 6 months? Why do sensationalist stories like this seem to overshadow the actual important things we should be talking about?
Dog eating, dogs on car roof, composite girlfriends... Holy fuck. When will this country get serious? We have REAL problems and differences of opinions that need our full attention.
I think I'm going crazy here.

[sillymonkey321]

No surprise there, but this is truly some 1+1=Derp happening here. Real-time cognitive dissonance of epic proportions. The flip has fused with the flop and they are one. I don't know how his circuitry can take it.

It's close to when Mitt said America should never apologize, but if we do something wrong we should say we're sorry.

[Rocket Scientist]

Bulbo are you implying that the story is false, because nothing in the abc news articles or the NYT articles makes the incident or Romney's handling of the news any better.

[Chumly]

Not only wasn't he there. He had never even HEARD of it until the WP contacted him. Is this what political journalism has come to? Is this what we want to talk about for the next 6 months? Why do sensationalist stories like this seem to overshadow the actual important things we should be talking about? Dog eating, dogs on car roof, composite girlfriends... Holy fuck. When will this country get serious? We have REAL problems and differences of opinions that need our full attention. I think I'm going crazy here.

Are you that desperate to prove it false? Maybe Romney should have handled the situation better and we wouldn't have the issue we have currently.

[gcubed]

Not only wasn't he there. He had never even HEARD of it until the WP contacted him. Is this what political journalism has come to? Is this what we want to talk about for the next 6 months? Why do sensationalist stories like this seem to overshadow the actual important things we should be talking about? Dog eating, dogs on car roof, composite girlfriends... Holy fuck. When will this country get serious? We have REAL problems and differences of opinions that need our full attention. I think I'm going crazy here.

Start a news channel that broadcasts news. You'd be one of a kind. I blame the incessant need to always have an opposing viewpoint on any topic for all of this shit.

Person A: "The earth is round"
Anchor: "Thats interesting A, but B over here disagrees with you, lets listen to him talk"
Person B: "You are wrong, its flat"
Anchor: "well there you go, interesting arguments, YOU decide!"

No, fuck you, the earth is round, Person B shouldn't be on your show or given a public platform for your stupidity.

Thats 1, 2 - i blame blogs vs news. Companies that should have a shred of decency throw stories out before fact checking to beat a "blog" to the punch. Its embarrassing. Blogs aren't press

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Bulbo are you implying that the story is false, because nothing in the abc news articles or the NYT articles makes the incident or Romney's handling of the news any better.

Parts of it are obviously false. The family says so but they don't elaborate. Also, how could a guy be troubled about it for a long time but has never even heard of it until contacted by the WP. I'm sure Romney did something. But what does it matter after all these years? Is he continuing to shave people's heads? Should we judge people ad infinitum based on their high school stupidity? Imagine in a few years when old Facebook posts are brought up in Presidential elections. It will be a complete clusterfuck.

[gcubed]

Parts of it are obviously false. The family says so but they don't elaborate. Also, how could a guy be troubled about it for a long time but has never even heard of it until contacted by the WP. I'm sure Romney did something. But what does it matter after all these years? Is he continuing to shave people's heads? Should we judge people ad infinitum based on their high school stupidity? Imagine in a few years when old Facebook posts are brought up in Presidential elections. It will be a complete clusterfuck.

i would imagine anyone smart enough to become a major politician is smart enough to not use facebook in that way. If you're a dimwit in the age of social media in your teens, I want you no where near a position of power over me.

I have less patience for that then I do someone being a meanie.

[Invisible_Insane]

I've seen this defense a lot as well. I think there's a difference between experimenting with drugs -- a personal choice -- and inflicting physical, emotional, and permanent pyschological pain by torturing someone. I could be wrong, but ask a room of 1000 people how many assaulted a gay person and ask the same room how many smoked a blunt and snorted a few lines and I think you'll see a teeny-tiny difference. Or, all of them. I mean, how many people in PoliGAF have assaulted gay people in their lives? You can put me on the "didn't particpate in assaulting gay people ever" column.

You missed my point. I'm not saying that drug use and bullying are equal "sins." I'm saying that the extent to which you can use the facts of someone's remote past to inform your understanding of their present character is extremely limited.

I recall being particularly mean to a couple of kids in elementary and junior high school. Anyone who judged me on how I treated those kids would rightly think me a terrible person, and while there are definitely reasons for people to think that about me now, my being an asshole to some kids ten or fifteen years ago really is just not the best way to come to that conclusion.

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

You missed my point. I'm not saying that drug use and bullying are equal "sins." I'm saying that the extent to which you can use the facts of someone's remote past to inform your understanding of their present character is extremely limited. I recall being particularly mean to a couple of kids in elementary and junior high school. Anyone who judged me on how I treated those kids would rightly think me a terrible person, and while there are definitely reasons for people to think that about me now, my being an asshole to some kids ten or fifteen years ago really is just not the best way to come to that conclusion.

You are still kind of abrasive.

[GhaleonEB]

Consumer sentiment hit its highest level in over four years today.

This summer will not be last summer.

[Stinkles]

Quantum Romney, holding all possible positions at once

Schrodinger's Mitt. nobody can tell what state he is in until he is observed. The two possible states are retard and full retard.

[cartoon_soldier]

Consumer sentiment hit its highest level in over four years today. This summer will not be last summer.

Awesome.

Jobless claims fell by 1000 too this week (although last week were revised by by 2000 I believe). It would be good to see a 150k+ summer.

[ToxicAdam]

I grew up a bully, so I have seen a lot of terrible shit. But my part of it was all verbal or emotional and it all ended by the time I hit puberty. I guess that's where my problem with this story lies. Romney was old enough to know better and this was a pretty brazen physical attack. I mean, cutting off someone's hair is just a step above holding someone down and pissing on them.

But Romney is also from a different era. I often heard stories from my father about bands of kids that would run around his old neighborhood and beat up people they didn't like or how they looked. If you were a minority or considered 'fey'? Forget about it. The 50's and 60's aren't the halcyon times everyone believes them to be.

[PhoenixPause]

The problem I have is with pushing this story as Romney attacking a gay kid. There's no evidence he was gay whatsoever. Considering this happened in the 60s and the kid was described as eccentric, it's not a leap to say he may have been somewhat of a hippy at worst, or simply out of the mainstream at best; everything about Romney reeks of status quo rigidity, I can see him having a problem with a haircut.

The event happened, the problem is WaPo fucked up on a witness. Which tells me this story was rushed out to meet a specific agenda

[GhaleonEB]

Awesome. Jobless claims fell by 1000 too this week (although last week were revised by by 2000 I believe). It would be good to see a 150k+ summer.

I was encouraged that they held flat this week. This is the BLS survey week (the week containing the 12th of the month), and UI claims were down ~30k from the same week last month. We've seen how unpredictable things can be, but it's an early good sign for the next jobs report.