[wickedcapedkid]

I seriously thought this thread was going to have something to do with another Total War game produced by Sega/Creative Assembly.

Now I am disappointed/baffled/offended, going to go play Shogun 2 now.

[East Lake]

OWS doesn't even know what the fuck its protesting. At least the Tea Party is clear about what it hates.

What do they hate?

[Joni]

What do they hate?

Everyone that is not white, rich and straight.

[Kabouter]

What do they hate?

Government, insofar as it extends beyond the bedroom and battlefield.

[Flying_Phoenix]

Well fuck...

[MrBelmontvedere]

this wouldn't even make for a good video game, let alone talking about real life.

[speedpop]

Disgusting. That is all I can think. Absolute disgust.

[Mecha_Infantry]

Ohhhhhh USA!! You silly

This personal vendetta against Islam by the US (yes some, not all) is bordering on some Hitler nazi shit. Hopefully this doesn't expand in the future years where a president actually feels like this and starts going HAM on Islamic states.

[East Lake]

Government, insofar as it extends beyond the bedroom and battlefield.

Well yeah at its core, even more basic it's Obama. You could say they were effective for a time protesting him, but as far as knowing what they were about I think that's not so clear. At points they were protesting immigration, ground zero mosques, big government, obamacare and whatever else was hot in the media. They were just a vocal, GOP microcosm. Which really has nothing to do with what dy_nasty was replying to anyway. So because they don't have precision in message OWS can get harassed and the Tea Party shouldn't suffer the same because everyone knows they don't like mexicans, muslims, and taxes? Is that what I'm reading? *Not accusing you Kabouter, just so I'm clear. ;)

[Glass Rebel]

I feel physically ill reading this....


I mean, how did they get my picture?!

[Fritz]

I cannot quite fathom this. I am sure every single country or similar entity has these "worst case" plans, I reckon even aimed at allies and neighbors and so on (I am looking at you France!). But if this was seriously teached as an option, probably the only option even, it is filthy, disgusting and absolutely brainless.

I don't know how the US army works but if this was my officer during army service I would have had him suspended in no time and if it was actually on the curriculum I would have gotten the press involved immediately. Well, that's apparently what happened. Good on the guy that leaked this shit.

[DY_nasty]

So because they don't have precision in message OWS can get harassed and the Tea Party shouldn't suffer the same because everyone knows they don't like mexicans, muslims, and taxes? Is that what I'm reading?

That isn't basic harassment. Its a legit criticism.

OWS is a disorganized mess. Saying that I'm "harassing them" for that is just defending them from what their actions have defined them as.

[alphaNoid]

What do they hate?

Taxes mostly, and big government.

[jorma]

Well at least we now know where Breiviks terrorist cell allies he keeps alluding to are hiding.

[NullPointer]

The US military response to this course taught at the college by the individual instructor. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...irresponsible/

Thanks for the followup. This article and its associated links is worth reading.

[OttomanScribe]

Nothing new.

The American military, at least amongst Aussie troops, has a reputation for being full of religious extremists and the profoundly uneducated. Makes sense that your run-of-the-mill Islamaphobic stuff is going to get passed around and have people getting dip-high thoughts of nuclear crusades.

As long as the military isn't deciding policy, then things will hopefully be okay. It does however make you seriously worry about deployed troops. I met an army officer the other day (my work is near a barracks) who was deployed to Afghanistan. Dude knew less about the conflict than I did. I mean sure, I study history and politics, but it is his damn job. The same dude was despairing to me about how dumb and uninformed the US troops are.

'Bunch of trigger happy bible bashers' were his words.

No wonder occupation forces have no good effect, they are stumbling around without a clue.

[East Lake]

That isn't basic harassment. Its a legit criticism. OWS is a disorganized mess. Saying that I'm "harassing them" for that is just defending them from what their actions have defined them as.

You can harass them all you want, that's fine, but you bolded the part about the NYPD and then went on to talk about not how OWS was a nuisance or something, but that they didn't know what they were protesting about and that the Tea Party did. Which looked to me like it said that whatever the NYPD has done is fine since OWS doesn't know what their purpose is. But why would it matter?

[RawPower]

What do they hate?

Everybody that isn't white, Christian, straight, and wealthy. Intellect is also frowned upon, as far as I know.

[DY_nasty]

You can harass them all you want, that's fine, but you bolded the part about the NYPD and then went on to talk about not how they were a nuisance or something, but that they didn't know what they were protesting about and that the Tea Party did. Which looked to me like it said that whatever the NYPD has done is fine since OWS doesn't know what they're purpose is. But why would it matter?

I bolded that part in particular because the "militaristic police" is a massive exaggeration. A handful of events from across the country does not equal a nation-wide, organized crackdown on anyone holding a sign.

And comparing this to Egpyt... people need to get over themselves.

[zoukka]

My only true wish in life is to not experience war. I know it's not going to come true.

[wolfmat]

My only true wish in life is to not experience war. I know it's not going to come true.

You don't know anything.

[Imm0rt4l]

LOL OWS doesn't even know what the fuck its protesting. At least the Tea Party is clear about what it hates. And how can you say you're outraged by the people who "are either too busy with American Idol blah blah blah :( blah"? How about YOU organize a rally? Start with that. Stop waiting for someone to make the first steps easy and take the initiative.

errmmm...no, not really. They have kind of an idea, but the tea party is very much in disarray in terms of what it wants.

[East Lake]

I bolded that part in particular because the "militaristic police" is a massive exaggeration. A handful of events from across the country does not equal a nation-wide, organized crackdown on anyone holding a sign.

Should have said that originally! I could've condensed my posts too though so I guess it's a wash.

[zoukka]

You don't know anything.

Thanks!

[DY_nasty]

errmmm...no, not really. They have kind of an idea, but the tea party is very much in disarray in terms of what it wants.

They have more of an idea and form than OWS. Now... what they want? lol. But OWS needs to stop getting a by just because they are on the side of "good".

Anyway, its all off-topic.

[wolfmat]

Thanks!

Haha, well, I mean, you can't predict how these things go.

[zoukka]

Haha, well, I mean, you can't predict how these things go.

I dunno. Not on detailed level no, but there's the financial crisis, europe will face bad shit in the near future, tension between east and west... and the general "we have too much money/resources and those who don't will some day take them (maybe rightfully so)".

Damn humanity.

[sazzy]

US military vs religious fanatics.

Both sides annihilate each other.

Rest of the world wins.

[zoukka]

US military vs religious fanatics. Both sides annihilate each other. Rest of the world wins.

Nice fantasy, but you'll be swept with it no matter where you live.

[OttomanScribe]

US military vs religious fanatics. Both sides annihilate each other. Rest of the world wins.

What? Because nuking Mecca is totally going to only kill 'religious fanatics'.

[RawPower]

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

[wolfmat]

US military vs religious fanatics.

Sure.. So this guy who's found no job and has no proper education and ended up in the military as a last option has to shoot the kid who's been betrayed all his life by opportunists. That sounds pretty fair!

[DY_nasty]

US military vs religious fanatics. Both sides annihilate each other. Rest of the world wins.

This almost has nothing to do with the thread. The issue is when religious fanatics in positions of power start making the decisions and tha

What are you taking about?

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

Generalize more.

Makes you look snazzy.

[Something Wicked]

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

Yeah, no. An organization that develops and operates some of the most technologically advanced equipment on this side of the galaxy isn't relying on religion to do so.

[Pollux]

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

Uh, not even close.

[zoukka]

Yeah, no. An organization that develops and operates some of the most technologically advanced equipment on this side of the galaxy isn't relying on religion to do so.

Who said anything about the scientists/engineers employed by these hypotethical fanatics?

[RawPower]

Yeah, no. An organization that develops and operates some of the most technologically advanced equipment on this side of the galaxy isn't relying on religion to do so.

I will retract my statements then.

[DY_nasty]

Who said anything about the scientists/engineers employed by these hypotethical fanatics?

Its like most advancements don't originate in the military or something...

Also a raving idiot, who was reported (like many others), doesn't somehow become the majority of the military.

[Imm0rt4l]

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

No it isn't.

[zoukka]

Its like most advancements don't originate in the military or something... Also a raving idiot, who was reported (like many others), doesn't somehow become the majority of the military.

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

[Trakdown]

The US military are also, by and large, religious fanatics.

If this were true the middle east would've been a smoldering crater by now and the shit you read about in the op would've happened long ago, rather than just being talked about by some low-rent Glenn Beck who somehow was given a podium to vomit evil out.

I'm not saying they're perfect by any means, but if they were truly fanatics I doubt we'd be welcome in most of the countries we have bases in.

[Pollux]

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

Why?

[wolfmat]

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

Yeah, that's always weirded me out as well. He could as well say "Luzifer bless America", really. There is literally no difference to me.

[DY_nasty]

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

How does that make one a religious fanatic?

[Enco]

I don't even..

Fuck, people can be such scum. Whoever is in charge of this needs to be locked up in an asylum.

[Trakdown]

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

"God Bless America" = "I'm finished speaking now". It's not a literal benediction.

[BigDug13]

What? Because nuking Mecca is totally going to only kill 'religious fanatics'.

Yeah it's a pretty ludicrous premise. You can't equate radicals of a religion, not in a single sovereign nation, but spread across the planet and say it's the same as Japan, a sovereign nation, being nuked to bring about a swift end to a world war. You can't just nuke a couple spots on the map and bring Islam to its knees the same way that we nuked two huge cities in Japan, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians to demonstrate our nation leveling power to a sovereign nation.

That's why this "War on Terror" is going to continue and continue and continue just like the "War on Drugs". It's a war that is unwinnable because there is no specific target to take out. We're going to continue to recruit and spend money on DoD personnel to fight this "enemy" until we can't sustain afford to provide a quality of life for our own citizens anymore.

[Something Wicked]

As an outsider it just stands out when your president says god bless america when giving public statements about war and stuff.

As an outsider, having a political party called "Christian" Democrats is odd as well.

[wolfmat]

The problem with the war on drugs was that the people didn't experience it first-hand, so they were cynical. The war on Islam is experienced first-hand though; see airports, FOX, your kids stumbling around in Afghanistan.

[zoukka]

"God Bless America" = "I'm finished speaking now". It's not a literal benediction.

Of course not, but at the same time isn't "faith" required in america if you run for presidency? Are you allowed to not say "god bless america"? Isn't the president the so called commander in chief of the army?

Also I found an article about religion in the military:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/wa...pagewanted=all




Also this brings memories from my own service... we had a mandatory visit to the base priest and I asked him about Jesus and if he would've enlisted in Finnish army. Well as you might guess I didn't get an answer and instead had to clean the noncommissioned officer premises lol.