[Jackson50]

Surprising. The bigoted prognosticators were wrong. And as I noted this before, the extensive review and implementation process was the prudent choice to obviate any potential problems.

Report Shows Success of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Repeal By Karen Parrish American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, May 10, 2012 – A new report shows the repeal of the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” law is being implemented successfully in the military, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said during a news conference today. The repeal of the law banning gay and lesbian people from open military service took effect Sept. 20, 2011. The secretary said he received the report on repeal implementation yesterday, and it shows repeal is going “very well” and according to the department’s plans. “It's not impacting on morale. It's not impacting on unit cohesion. It is not impacting on readiness,” he said. Panetta said he credits military leaders for effective repeal planning. “Very frankly, my view is that the military has kind of moved beyond it,” he said. “It's become part and parcel of what they've accepted within the military.” During the same conference, Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he has not seen “any negative effect on good order and discipline” resulting from the repeal. In response to a reporter’s question of what the military had been afraid of in allowing open service, the chairman said, “We didn't know.” “We were given a year to make this assessment, to educate ourselves, to collaborate, to build a sense of trust on this issue,” he added. “And given that time to do it, I think it worked out well.” http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=116291

[ToxicAdam]

wow, what did speculawyer do? His post history does not show anything bad...

I would guess Manos and him got banned for derailing a thread or maybe there were personal attacks involved. I didn't read one bit of it.

[Zabka]

lol Tamron Hall just manhandled a "omg Left Mainstream mediaz" guy.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-ta...f-media-trick/

[el retorno]

I would guess Manos and him got banned for derailing a thread or maybe there were personal attacks involved. I didn't read one bit of it.

Was it the "you beat your wife stuff"?

[Suikoguy]

Surprising. The bigoted prognosticators were wrong. And as I noted this before, the extensive review and implementation process was the prudent choice to obviate any potential problems.

Eh, the military just makes any process long.
The nature of any beast as large as large as the military.

[Dax01]

Woo!

I missed it in the Halo thread until last night and forgot to offer my congratulations. Great news!

Thanks dudes.

Also, I can't believe Reid said this on the Senate floor earlier:

If there were ever a time when Tom Udall and Jeff Merkley were prophetic, it’s tonight. These two young, fine senators said it was time to change the rules of the Senate,and we didn’t. And they were right. The rest of us were wrong -- or most of us, anyway. What a shame... Mr. President, I am finished here, but I just want to say again, for those that are listening here or watching, Senator Udall and Senator Merkley want to do something to change the rules regarding filibuster. If there were anything that ever needed changing in this body, it’s the filibuster rule, because it’s been abused, abused, and abused.

[Averon]

Thanks dudes. Also, I can't believe Reid said this on the Senate floor earlier:

Anyone who was listening knew the GOP would filibuster just about everything. They said as much! Reid and senators Dems have no one but themselves to blame.

[Clevinger]

Thanks dudes. Also, I can't believe Reid said this on the Senate floor earlier:

I think this comment sums up my thoughts:

"Just in time to lose the Senate. What a master tactician." Reid is such a useless fool.

[PhoenixPause]

Reid...haha

If republicans win the senate they will certainly change filibuster rules. And if Obama wins and dems hold the senate, I fully expect Reid to back down and offer another "gentleman's agreement."

[Clevinger]

Reid...haha If republicans win the senate they will certainly change filibuster rules.

Paul Ryan is going to be such a happy man next year.

[Al-ibn Kermit]

obama camp going all out with the lgbt merchandise http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/...r-gay-marriage

Lol $20 bucks for a onesie, they might outgrow it by election day.

[GhaleonEB]

Reid...haha If republicans win the senate they will certainly change filibuster rules. And if Obama wins and dems hold the senate, I fully expect Reid to back down and offer another "gentleman's agreement."

Possible. Maybe even probable. But this is the first time I've seen Reid take his position on the filibuster this far. I think it's clear he's had enough. Ultimately, it will come down to whether there are 50 votes to remove it.

[AlteredBeast]

Lol $20 bucks for a onesie, they might outgrow it by election day.

Wow. The Obama campaign really knows how to market. For some reason, despite the fact that I genuinely enjoy hearing his speeches and such, his merchandising seems so scuzzy to me.

It is almost like a toy company who talks with movie makers so that the toy can come out before the movie.

"We are going to announce support for gay marriage."

"Ready the buttons, onesies, hats, trinkets, and t-shirts! Don't let this merchandising goldmine go to waste!"

Next, when Obama finally supports the oil pipeline, it will be, "Oilers for Obama" with an oil rig shooting oil into the sky that spells out the words "Energy for Obama 2012"

[Tamanon]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...r-edition.html

Money quote:

Scour Romney’s record for a single example of real political courage -- a single, solitary instance, however small, where Romney placed principle or substance above his own short- term political interests. Let me know if you find one ... His campaign has been an exercise in feeble appeasement. The only thing he appears to be dedicated to is abasing himself to the hard-right wing of the Republican Party. Consider the way he allowed a foreign-policy spokesman to be drummed out of the campaign simply for being gay ... Romney flunks the character test. He seems incapable of making the hard, sometimes unpopular, choices that are part of the job

He's got a point there at least.

[Clevinger]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...r-edition.html Money quote: He's got a point there at least.

Honestly, for how much I think Romney wants to be president, staying a Mormon instead of just converting for political gain like Gingrich did is kind of brave. It's one of the few aspects about him that seems genuine.

I mean, it's not that brave, and doesn't have much of anything to do with being president, but it's one thing. lol

[Tamanon]

Honestly, for how much I think Romney wants to be president, staying a Mormon instead of just converting for political gain like Gingrich did is kind of brave. It's one of the few aspects about him that seems genuine. I mean, it's not that brave, but it's one thing. lol

Eh, I don't think you can really convert that late in life without it backfiring completely.

[PhoenixPause]

Eh, I don't think you can really convert that late in life without it backfiring completely.

Plus his family is one of the oldest and most powerful Mormon families in the country. He wasn't going to walk away from that, nor do I fault him for it.

[adamsappel]

Changing your religion to better your electoral chances is probably one flip-flop too many for most people.

[Copernicus]

Eh, I don't think you can really convert that late in life without it backfiring completely.

Worked for Obeezy.

[Clevinger]

All right, so Romney pretty much has nothing.

[Gr1mLock]

In other news Walker might as well just dig his own ditch at this point.

[Suikoguy]

In other news Walker might as well just dig his own ditch at this point.

He will hire non-union labor and use tax money to do it.

[Tamanon]

Worked for Obeezy.

Eh, the twenty's are when you do your soul-searching. Bit different.

[PhoenixPause]

In other news Walker might as well just dig his own ditch at this point.

I'd be shocked if he lost. This latest video will probably revive some dem enthusiasm but they're still down in money and the general advantages incumbency brings. Wisconsin is not some failing state, it has a low UE rate and is doing well overall.

[RDreamer]

In other news Walker might as well just dig his own ditch at this point.

I wish. That bastard's probably not going anywhere... If he loses it won't be by much. I swear if it came out the guy brutally murdered his own grandma his worshippers would somehow explain how grandmas are horrible thugs that need to be murdered, and they'd hold a parade or something to praise him for what he's done.

I'd be shocked if he lost. This latest video will probably revive some dem enthusiasm but they're still down in money and the general advantages incumbency brings. Wisconsin is not some failing state, it has a low UE rate and is doing well overall.

Any Dem enthusiasm that video brings will bring equal or possibly more enthusiasm with his followers. They probably heard the phrase "right-to-work" and pissed themselves with glee, that is if they were done orgasming after hearing about taking it to the unions.

[Gr1mLock]

I wish. That bastard's probably not going anywhere... If he loses it won't be by much. I swear if it came out the guy brutally murdered his own grandma his worshippers would somehow explain how grandmas are horrible thugs that need to be murdered, and they'd hold a parade or something to praise him for what he's done. Any Dem enthusiasm that video brings will bring equal or possibly more enthusiasm with his followers. They probably heard the phrase "right-to-work" and pissed themselves with glee, that is if they were done orgasming after hearing about taking it to the unions.

Thats a depressing thought. Maybe Wisconsin can pull it together and get that scumbag out of there.

[Averon]

Romney's still arguing that he deserves some credit for saving the auto industry.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...redit-for-auto

Romney Defends Taking Credit For Auto Bailout

Mitt Romney defended having said he deserved some credit for the success of the auto-industry bailout in an interview on Fox News Thursday, explaining that he pushed for the managed bankruptcy process that eventually took place. Denying that he was against the rescue, Romney pointed to his 2008 New York Times op-ed ”Let Detroit go Bankrupt” as evidence that he was always for a managed bankruptcy process. “This is back when George Bush was president and I said, ‘don’t write them a check. They need to go through a managed bankruptcy. They have to get rid of the excess costs of the UAW and other excess costs, and then the government can help support. But don’t write them a check.‘“ “The president finally came around and they went through a managed bankruptcy and now they are back on their feet,” he added. Host Neil Cavuto pointed out that the bankruptcy process would not have worked without government support, and Romney said he was “open” to that from the beginning as well. At the time, in that op-ed, I said if government support is needed in the bankruptcy, and the government has to provide guarantees, that is something I would be open to. Obviously, we do not want the auto industry to go out of business and I was on Fox and also on the “Meet the Press” talking about this. We would not have the industry go out of business but it needed to go through bankruptcy to get rid of the excessive cost before the government support kicked in and we spent $20 billion before the president finally decided to let the companies go in bankruptcy. That is what he should have done from the beginning. As TPM has reported, Romney’s position on the auto bailout has been inconsistent. In an op-ed in the Detroit News in February, Romney wrote that “I believe that without [Obama’s] intervention things there would be better.” In June 2011, Romney told CNN’s Piers Morgan that the rescue would have worked with minimum federal help and that the bailouts were a mistake.

[Chichikov]

Wow. The Obama campaign really knows how to market. For some reason, despite the fact that I genuinely enjoy hearing his speeches and such, his merchandising seems so scuzzy to me. It is almost like a toy company who talks with movie makers so that the toy can come out before the movie. "We are going to announce support for gay marriage." "Ready the buttons, onesies, hats, trinkets, and t-shirts! Don't let this merchandising goldmine go to waste!" Next, when Obama finally supports the oil pipeline, it will be, "Oilers for Obama" with an oil rig shooting oil into the sky that spells out the words "Energy for Obama 2012"

It used to bother me too.
Until it was pointed out to me that it's every bit as sleazy and wrong as "normal" campaign donations.

It still feels wrong though.

Also, I can't believe Reid said this on the Senate floor earlier:

Good.

[RDreamer]

Obama's merchandising and stuff doesn't feel sleazy at all to me. It's good marketing, and it shows great leadership, organization, and an astoundingly good team that they're able to do these things at break-neck speed. I don't really have a problem with selling promotional things to people that want to support you for what you've done, especially smaller trinkets like that. It feels far, far less sleazy than the multi-million dollar donations that others put in which seem to actually push policy based on what one guy or very few people want.

Then again, I went to school partially for marketing, and I love seeing good marketing in play, so I'm a bit biased.

[gcubed]

Romney's still arguing that he deserves some credit for saving the auto industry. http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...redit-for-auto Romney Defends Taking Credit For Auto Bailout

I read something earlier, i think it was on NPR, that basically called him out on it, even using Lutz from GM who basically called Romney a dimwit.

[NullPointer]

So Speculawyer is banned? How did that happen?

* pours a drink for a fallen comrade *

Here's hoping its a short vacation.

It used to bother me too. Until it was pointed out to me that it's every bit as sleazy and wrong as "normal" campaign donations. It still feels wrong though.

I'm pretty close to biting on that DADT repealed T-shirt.

[GhaleonEB]

Romney sat on the sidelines and lobbed spitballs. He doesn't get "credit" for jack shit - he didn't do anything. The entire premise is laughable.

[Chumly]

LINK

So in Nebraska here Lincoln is trying to propose a LBGT protection ordinance to prevent discrimination for the LBGT. Its meeting a lot of resistance and we have this gem that came out and spoke against it. Warning it is infuriating......

[sillymonkey321]

LINK So in Nebraska here Lincoln is trying to propose a LBGT protection ordinance to prevent discrimination for the LBGT. Its meeting a lot of resistance and we have this gem that came out and spoke against it. Warning it is infuriating......

In her defense, she got through a lot of points in a brief amount of time.

[Rocket Scientist]

The guy in the back is gold.

[Ghost_Protocol]

Rachel Maddow: This has been the gayest week in Mitt Romney's life.

lols

[cartoon_soldier]

I think the Hill is the only site I have seen actually refer to Rasmussen as a "conservative pollster"

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ead-nationally

[PhoenixPause]

This is the worst voting campaign since Vote Or Die

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...alker-that-is-

lol

[NullPointer]

This is the worst voting campaign since Vote Or Die http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...alker-that-is- lol

Everybody's doing it!

[Stinkles]

I'd be shocked if he lost. This latest video will probably revive some dem enthusiasm but they're still down in money and the general advantages incumbency brings. Wisconsin is not some failing state, it has a low UE rate and is doing well overall.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but the Walker recall will be the closest thing to a litmus test for Dem enthusiasm and Republican fatigue that we have 'til November.

[eznark]

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but the Walker recall will be the closest thing to a litmus test for Dem enthusiasm and Republican fatigue that we have 'til November.

At this point in Wisconsin it's the other way around. Democrats have been demonstrating against Walker for 16 months, this is the first chance his supporters have had to voice their enthusiasm for him. It appears that the Democrats are starting to fatigue (400,000 fewer primary votes than recall signings) while the WI GOP is revved up. Obviously that could change, but it's only three weeks away at this point. It'll be interesting if the ammo dump the dems are engaging in will work.

Latest poll has Walker up 5 and hitting that 50% mark.

Perhaps more interestingly, the same poll has Tommy Thompson slaughtering Tammy Baldwin for the Herb Kohl senate seat. It'd be nuts if both WI seats flip in back to back elections.

[RDreamer]

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but the Walker recall will be the closest thing to a litmus test for Dem enthusiasm and Republican fatigue that we have 'til November.

Fatigue? There is absolutely no fatigue in the Republican party here, especially not when voting for Walker. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The conservatives here worship this guy. Their love gets stronger with every leaked video and every statement made. They would kiss the ground he walks on. He's their new political Jesus. If there were a Ronald Reagan 2.0 for this state, it'd be him. If he killed his grandma most of his followers would justify it and try and say grandmas are thugs. They are all deluded and prideful with how much they love this guy. You can barely go anywhere in rural Wisconsin without feeling like you're sailing through a sea of Stand with Walker signs. Hell, a ton of people think those puny political signs are pathetic, and they've erected their own ungodly huge shrines to his holiness. My dad is one of them. There is no fatigue. This guy isn't Mitt Romney. There's no comparison at all.

[eznark]

Fatigue? There is absolutely no fatigue in the Republican party here, especially not when voting for Walker. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The conservatives here worship this guy. Their love gets stronger with every leaked video and every statement made. They would kiss the ground he walks on. He's their new political Jesus. If there were a Ronald Reagan 2.0 for this state, it'd be him. If he killed his grandma most of his followers would justify it and try and say grandmas are thugs. They are all deluded and prideful with how much they love this guy. You can barely go anywhere in rural Wisconsin without feeling like you're sailing through a sea of Stand with Walker signs. Hell, a ton of people think those puny political signs are pathetic, and they've erected their own ungodly huge shrines to his holiness. My dad is one of them. There is no fatigue. This guy isn't Mitt Romney. There's no comparison at all.

Walker gonna pay my mortgage?

[Officerrob]

Grover Norquist has said "Regan" about ten times in his first 15 minutes on Real Time. Give it a rest already

[Oblivion]

So Speculawyer is banned? How did that happen? * pours a drink for a fallen comrade * Here's hoping its a short vacation.

Nobody poured a drink for ME when I got banned! >:(

And it was for a whole month! :(

But then again, maybe it's cause I got banned for political correctness. Damn libruls.

[Oblivion]

Grover Norquist has said "Regan" about ten times in his first 15 minutes on Real Time. Give it a rest already

That dimwit's back on Real Time? Awesome. Maher tore him a new one last time he was on.

Which is why he's even more of a nimrod than I assumed if he thought bringing up Reagan would be a good idea after what happened before.

[Tamanon]

Walker gonna pay my mortgage?

Actually there's a scam that a surprising number of people are falling for about "Obama paying your electric bill". It's a little scary, how many people are falling for it.

[ToxicAdam]

This is the worst voting campaign since Vote Or Die http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...alker-that-is- lol

I want to be young, attractive and sexy, too! I wanna do it.

[Stinkles]

Fatigue? There is absolutely no fatigue in the Republican party here, especially not when voting for Walker. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The conservatives here worship this guy. Their love gets stronger with every leaked video and every statement made. They would kiss the ground he walks on. He's their new political Jesus. If there were a Ronald Reagan 2.0 for this state, it'd be him. If he killed his grandma most of his followers would justify it and try and say grandmas are thugs. They are all deluded and prideful with how much they love this guy. You can barely go anywhere in rural Wisconsin without feeling like you're sailing through a sea of Stand with Walker signs. Hell, a ton of people think those puny political signs are pathetic, and they've erected their own ungodly huge shrines to his holiness. My dad is one of them. There is no fatigue. This guy isn't Mitt Romney. There's no comparison at all.

You're talking passion. I am talking numbers. However, I am absolutely ready to believe you're right about both. But the litmus test will happen at the polls.

[Manmademan]

I want to be young, attractive and sexy, too! I wanna do it.

attractive might be stretching it for the young lady in the ad.