[yogloo]

I have 55" LG LW5700 that uses passive 3D glasses. The bundled ones are total crap, but I bought a couple of premium ones that are much, much better. I made a thread about it a while back. I don't really like active glasses to be honest. The flickering is a little annoying to my eyes, plus they can't be curved as far as I know. So light gets in from behind or they have to be too big to compensate. It's all very awkward IMO. The set of Polaroid passive glasses I ended up buying are great, curved so they fit your face and are very comfortable. Some people seemed to be overwhelmingly against spending money on passive glasses in the thread I mentioned early, but if you're already spending thousands on a 3D TV saving a few bucks on the glasses (which is a huge part of the experience and I think crappy glasses is a major contributor to 3D hate in general) is frankly ridiculous IMO. I hear a lot about how 3D is a no go until they can get rid of the glasses, but if they're just as comfortable as the sun glasses you wear while driving, I really don't see the issue. I don't even notice I have them on. Plus it's nice that you can look at stuff other than the TV without having to take them off. Unfortunately phone screens look a little weird with the glasses on, so it limits your multitasking a little. I have a Denon AVX 1912 receiver after my Onkyo 606 bit the dust. Terrible build quality, won't be going with Onkyo ever again. I have Pure Acoustics speakers that are pretty decent for the price.

I was looking at buying the LG 47inch LW6700. Still thinking about it. Hmmmmm,. It's so tempting. I love the passive glasses though. Way more comfy than the active ones.

Btw does your set have the 2d to 3d conversion? Does it work well?

How's the 5700 for gaming? Any problem with input lag?

[Mattlikewhoa]

Can anyone recommend some good 3D glasses for a 50" Panasonic Plasma?

What model do you have?

I have a 50ST30 in our bedroom and I have a pair of Panasonic TY-EW3D3M. They've been great so far. They hold a charge quite well, they're light and I wear glasses and they are still comfy to wear.

[Gameboy415]

I found out that Comcast has a 3D channel, on demand 3D movies, and ESPN 3D already included in my package. This was a very nice thing to discover. I have the glasses, more Blu Rays, and a coupe more games for PS3 and 360 arriving in the mail today and the set will be here tomorrow. I'm pretty excited!

If your package includes Starz or HBO, both have their own free On-Demand 3D content!
Not sure what's available nowadays (I lost my employee discount in March so I downgraded to basic), but there was some great stuff on there at the beginning of the year like Avatar & Megamind!

[SillyEskimo]

If your package includes Starz or HBO, both have their own free On-Demand 3D content! Not sure what's available nowadays (I lost my employee discount in March so I downgraded to basic), but there was some great stuff on there at the beginning of the year like Avatar & Megamind!

I checked and they are playing Cars 2, Tron, and the 4th PotC. I own them all on Blu Ray already, but not having to double dip for 3D versions just saved me 100$ right there! Just thinking about Avengers in 3D in my own home on that set makes me all sorts of happy.

My set arrived today and it is fucking huge. I'm excited as a school kid. The last tech upgrade I did that made me this giddy was 1.5 years ago when I bought 3x24" monitors for my PC and set up Eyefinity. Both upgrades are total gamechangers for me. There is no going back! Sadly, I had the set put on it's stand, I plugged in the cable, and I then had to come into work for 8 looooong hours. Torture most cruel!

[worldrevolution]

So I picked up the 32inch Vizio thats 3d/smart. Very basic, entry line set but I figured for the price it was definitely worth it.

[J2 Cool]

Family bought a Sharp 70" Aquos Quattron 3D tv (LC-70LE735U). Just wondering any Sharp users opinion on Motion Enhancement.

So I hate motion interpolation basically, True motion, etc. But I don't entirely understand the technology, just its effect. Sharp has something called Aquomotion I guess, then two more settings:


Aquomotion 240/ 120 (high) / 120 (low) / off


What's ideal? I don't know what else I'm doing to the picture by turning them off completely, I just don't want that true motion equivalent. Should it be set to off? Or on one of the lower 120 settings?

Anyway, excited to try out my first 3D tv. Got Toy Story 3, and some NBA playoffs later. Does anyone have a primer about what I need to do? Does 3D hve its own box you need to rent separate from your HD box from your Cable provider? (Comcast) Does 3D only air on ESPN3D, or is it integrated with ESPNHD? Basically need a primer on 3D

[Mattlikewhoa]

Family bought a Sharp 70" Aquos Quattron 3D tv (LC-70LE735U). Just wondering any Sharp users opinion on Motion Enhancement. So I hate motion interpolation basically, True motion, etc. But I don't entirely understand the technology, just its effect. Sharp has something called Aquomotion I guess, then two more settings: Aquomotion 240/ 120 (high) / 120 (low) / off What's ideal? I don't know what else I'm doing to the picture by turning them off completely, I just don't want that true motion equivalent. Should it be set to off? Or on one of the lower 120 settings? Anyway, excited to try out my first 3D tv. Got Toy Story 3, and some NBA playoffs later. Does anyone have a primer about what I need to do? Does 3D hve its own box you need to rent separate from your HD box from your Cable provider? (Comcast) Does 3D only air on ESPN3D, or is it integrated with ESPNHD? Basically need a primer on 3D

If you don't like the effect then I would just turn it off. Depending on what I'm watching (sports) I sometimes leave it on low.

As for the channels, I don't know how it works for your provider, but mine has dedicated 3D channels. So I flip to it, and there it is, in SBS glory.

Check with your provider.

[Kenak]

I have a 42" LG 3D TV, but I don't really get much use out of the 3D. Does anyone know where to buy 3D movies that don't cost over $20 a pop? -_-

[J2 Cool]

If you don't like the effect then I would just turn it off. Depending on what I'm watching (sports) I sometimes leave it on low. As for the channels, I don't know how it works for your provider, but mine has dedicated 3D channels. So I flip to it, and there it is, in SBS glory. Check with your provider.

Got it. One time $5 starter fee for Xfinity (which has xfinity3d and espn3d, plus starz and showtime 3d if you subscribe to those). Thx. I'll probably flip it off, and use low possibly once in awhile.

[SillyEskimo]

Family bought a Sharp 70" Aquos Quattron 3D tv (LC-70LE735U). Just wondering any Sharp users opinion on Motion Enhancement. So I hate motion interpolation basically, True motion, etc. But I don't entirely understand the technology, just its effect. Sharp has something called Aquomotion I guess, then two more settings: Aquomotion 240/ 120 (high) / 120 (low) / off What's ideal? I don't know what else I'm doing to the picture by turning them off completely, I just don't want that true motion equivalent. Should it be set to off? Or on one of the lower 120 settings? Anyway, excited to try out my first 3D tv. Got Toy Story 3, and some NBA playoffs later. Does anyone have a primer about what I need to do? Does 3D hve its own box you need to rent separate from your HD box from your Cable provider? (Comcast) Does 3D only air on ESPN3D, or is it integrated with ESPNHD? Basically need a primer on 3D

Pixar films, as well as other animated films, are much better with this type of tech. I turn it off for everything else though. Come to think of it, I have not tried it with gaming. I'll try that later!

[SillyEskimo]

Got it. One time $5 starter fee for Xfinity (which has xfinity3d and espn3d, plus starz and showtime 3d if you subscribe to those). Thx. I'll probably flip it off, and use low possibly once in awhile.

Thanks for the reminder. I'm on the phone with them now!

Edit: not available in my area and no ETA :(

[J2 Cool]

That sucks ^ That said, ESPN3D's scheduling is still pretty bare at the moment for live events: http://espn.go.com/3d/schedule.html

Nothing until late June.

So new problem, I flipped off motion interpolation/ aquamotion. It's entirely off. When I flip on my Blu-ray player, put Toy Story 3D in, instantly notice its got some motion interpolation shit on during the preview for Brave. Toy Story 3 starts up, and its the same shit. Definitely, just visually can tell. I go to my tv's settings and the motion setting is greyed out, unaccessible.

So I imagine I have to do something on my blu-ray's player, which is just a Sony 3d player (bdp-2480). Only, there is no settings for motion. On the Toy Story disc, they only have setting to make your picture brighter, darker, theater like, etc. At wit's end for the moment. Pretty annoying.

[MrJames]

A new head mounted display is out.

http://www.siliconmicrodisplay.com/st1080-features.html

1080p LCoS versus 720p OLED on the Sony HMZ-T1. Same price at $800. I love the Sony but it's just not comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time. The ST1080 looks much lighter and more portable. If the reviews are positive I might get one.

Unboxing video and comparison to the Sony

[JoshuaJSlone]

Does anyone know where to buy 3D movies that don't cost over $20 a pop? -_-

Afraid at this point they're too much of a novelty to be down to the prices DVD and regular Blu-ray ended up at. If you find something below $20 it's probably something you never heard of or a one-hour documentary originally made for TV.

[SillyEskimo]

Best Buy just had a sale 2 weeks ago on 3D movies. I already owned them all on normal and did not double dip. Plenty of well known movies for 15-20$ including the Harry Potters, MI4, and others mixed with a bunch of nature documentaries. It wasn't all 3D movies, so the selection was still really limited.

[J2 Cool]

So new problem, I flipped off motion interpolation/ aquamotion. It's entirely off. When I flip on my Blu-ray player, put Toy Story 3D in, instantly notice its got some motion interpolation shit on during the preview for Brave. Toy Story 3 starts up, and its the same shit. Definitely, just visually can tell. I go to my tv's settings and the motion setting is greyed out, unaccessible. So I imagine I have to do something on my blu-ray's player, which is just a Sony 3d player (bdp-2480). Only, there is no settings for motion. On the Toy Story disc, they only have setting to make your picture brighter, darker, theater like, etc. At wit's end for the moment. Pretty annoying.

Solved my problem, thought I'd lay down the solution for other people. Additional to turning off "motion enhancement", there's also a setting known as "film mode" with the Sharp Aquos Quattron. It needs to be off or at least set to standard. Especially when watching Blu-ray's, it's ridiculous. I can't believe how many setting are in these tv's to make them look artificial.

[NIGHT-]

I just got Avatar blu-ray in 3D due to buying a Panasonic 3D plasma. I was surprised that it's still an exclusive Panasonic disc, not for sale separately. Fetches a high resell value. Out of curiosity, how long is that supposed to last?

I just got a Panny 3d tv( GT50). Is this a deal included with all panny 3d tvs? Or was it a special promotion?

[aDDiKt24]

Epson tw9000w with 120 inch screen. 3d is beautiful on it. Gaming in 3d is meh but definitely enjoyed wipeout on the ps3. Best thing I have seen in 3d at this point is some IMAX docos. Watching tron legacy 3d with a friend tomorrow, we will see how that goes. I own 6 pairs of glasses and about 10 3d blurays.

[SillyEskimo]

Epson tw9000w with 120 inch screen. 3d is beautiful on it. Gaming in 3d is meh but definitely enjoyed wipeout on the ps3. Best thing I have seen in 3d at this point is some IMAX docos. Watching tron legacy 3d with a friend tomorrow, we will see how that goes. I own 6 pairs of glasses and about 10 3d blurays.

Like most 3D movies, Tron has moments of greatness but when the entire movie is taken into account it loses it's luster. I actually love the asthetics and imagery once they are in the Tron universe. The movie is still ok at best but the eyecandy alone is worth a viewing.

[J2 Cool]

Okay, the most bizarre, sort of annoying problem yet. Also most definitely an isolated incident, but I have no idea where to start diagnosing it. Again,

TV: Sharp Aquos Quattron 70" (lc-70le735u)
Cable provider: Comcast Xfinity

Using the controller, anytime I hit the controller's right arrow, it actually inputs the number 8 on my xfinity box. (I.E. so moving through menus, doing anything) Changing my channel to 8, 888, 88 -- you get the point...... What in the fuck? It makes no sense. Press left, up, down and no problems. Press right and its changing my channels. I don't know if I call comcast, Sharp, or who exactly. Really weird.

Also its really tough to search for something so specific online. I haven't found anything yet.

[Dead]

Frys has a bunch of 3d movies on sale for $16.99 as part of their anniversary sale:

Hugo
Immortals
Smurfs
Priest
The Adventures Of Tin Tin
Puss In Boots
Resident Evil Afterlife
Ice Age 3 Dawn Of The Dinosaurs
Rio

[Pachinko]

How did all you guys solve the legacy receiver problem ? I've thought of finding a twin hdmi bluray player and that will work fine for movies but if I want to do 3d gaming I have to use a more complicated setup with the ps3 / 360 and the eventual arrival of the next set of consoles. It just seems like a horrible waste to me to replace my barely used current receiver just for this one thing though. (yamaha ht 6160 7.1 capable hdmi 1.3)

[Zeni]

Also looking for 3-D glasses for Panasonic ST30. I've heard that the playstation glasses are compatible - can anyone confirm (and if so, does picture/3D quality suffer)? I live in Canada and it seems that the 3rd generation Panasonic glasses have been discontinued, which is a major pain.

[SquiddyCracker]

Are there any commercial glasses-free 3DTVs out yet?
I wouldn't mind something small either, 32 inches is just fine.

[Dr.Horrible]

How did all you guys solve the legacy receiver problem ? I've thought of finding a twin hdmi bluray player and that will work fine for movies but if I want to do 3d gaming I have to use a more complicated setup with the ps3 / 360 and the eventual arrival of the next set of consoles. It just seems like a horrible waste to me to replace my barely used current receiver just for this one thing though. (yamaha ht 6160 7.1 capable hdmi 1.3)

Same receiver problem here. My PS3 work around is to have a 2nd hdmi cable that runs directly to my tv and then I just have to use tv sound. Not ideal, but I don't do a lot in 3d. That may change though as I just got directv and would like to partake in some espn3d with some regularity.

[MrJames]

How did all you guys solve the legacy receiver problem ? I've thought of finding a twin hdmi bluray player and that will work fine for movies but if I want to do 3d gaming I have to use a more complicated setup with the ps3 / 360 and the eventual arrival of the next set of consoles. It just seems like a horrible waste to me to replace my barely used current receiver just for this one thing though. (yamaha ht 6160 7.1 capable hdmi 1.3)

I'll be buying a new receiver soon and moving my current one (Denon 3808) to another room.

Can the audio return channel or optical out on 3D sets forward a 5.1 signal back to your receiver if you connect your PS3/360 directly to your TV? Might be a cheaper work around if your equipment supports those features.

[TEH-CJ]

Hey guys

I just purchased the Samsung HT-E6750W with then new vacum valce tech

but for the life of me I cant find any reviews!

whats the go?

[JoshuaJSlone]

Asked Google. This reviewer seems to really like it.

[Raistlin]

A new head mounted display is out. http://www.siliconmicrodisplay.com/st1080-features.html 1080p LCoS versus 720p OLED on the Sony HMZ-T1. Same price at $800. I love the Sony but it's just not comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time. The ST1080 looks much lighter and more portable. If the reviews are positive I might get one. Unboxing video and comparison to the Sony

Wow that's pretty interesting.

Seems so weird that Sony went with OLED and someone else went with LCoS. Hell, Sony may very well be supplying the LCoS chips.

[Raistlin]

How did all you guys solve the legacy receiver problem ? I've thought of finding a twin hdmi bluray player and that will work fine for movies but if I want to do 3d gaming I have to use a more complicated setup with the ps3 / 360 and the eventual arrival of the next set of consoles. It just seems like a horrible waste to me to replace my barely used current receiver just for this one thing though. (yamaha ht 6160 7.1 capable hdmi 1.3)

The cheapest workaround would be to use HDMI video / optical audio for your consoles ... and get a BluRay player that has dual HDMI output. I just ordered a Sony BDP-S790 which looks to be the best BD player on the market not called Oppo (and is cheaper).




The other option would be to get a video processor that has dual HDMI output. That's more expensive, but does give you a ton of features, etc. Of the two I'm familiar with, the DVDO Edge or Edge Green would be cheaper. If you need the extra features/performance, the iScan Duo is available.

Note that while both of those video processors are listed as HDMI 1.3, they actually will pass 3D without issue. However if you are looking for future-proofing, they cannot support 1080p60 FP 3D or 4K as far as I know ... so keep that in mind.




Obviously the last option is to try to sell the receiver for a newer model.

[JoshuaJSlone]

Obviously the last option is to try to sell the receiver for a newer model.

Yeah, it may be undesirable but can be the simplest. My old receiver had 0 HDMI inputs and 1 optical input, so I had separate switchers for audio leading to the receiver and video leading to the TV. What a crazy nest of wires.

[MrJames]

Wow that's pretty interesting. Seems so weird that Sony went with OLED and someone else went with LCoS. Hell, Sony may very well be supplying the LCoS chips.

Early reviews have been sparse but so far the only big confirmed negative is that there is no scaling included. This means you get windowboxing on resolutions less than 1080p. They have mentioned that they are working on a firmware update to be released in about a month that will provide scaling for 720p to fill the screen. I'll wait and see how that turns out.

[JoshuaJSlone]

Today only, Aiptek digital 3D camcorder model from a couple years ago for $95 (including shipping). I've considered this model before, when usually seeing its price at $150+, so I'm going for it. It doesn't sound like the ultimate, but it sounds like a big step up over what I can do with 3DS, without spending $300+ on something really nice. Not sure what the maximum size of still image it can take, but it records video in side-by-side 720p, so 640x720 for each eye.

[Raistlin]

Early reviews have been sparse but so far the only big confirmed negative is that there is no scaling included. This means you get windowboxing on resolutions less than 1080p. They have mentioned that they are working on a firmware update to be released in about a month that will provide scaling for 720p to fill the screen. I'll wait and see how that turns out.

Yeah ... I wouldn't be very enthused about a scaling solution that's tacked on in a quick FW update :p

[ChocolatePuddin]

Alright about to part with a lot of cash for a 46d7000 Samsung smart TV.Its got all the bells and whistles including 3D.I wanted to know two things:

1.)Is it even a good TV to be buying.

2.)What is the story with 3D glasses that need rehanging and those that don't?And will the 3D effect look like the effect you get in cinemas?Does it look better or worse? I'm so confused.

[aDDiKt24]

Started playing Avatar the game in 3d. Yeah its a terrible game blah blah blah, however the 3d is done really well throughout the game and makes me a believer in the ongoing process of developing games that work well in 3d.

For reference the other game which I feel is really good in 3d (But not as good as Avatar) is Wipeout on the PS3.

I am playing on a 120" Screen with Epson Tw9000w.

[aDDiKt24]

Alright about to part with a lot of cash for a 46d7000 Samsung smart TV.Its got all the bells and whistles including 3D.I wanted to know two things: 1.)Is it even a good TV to be buying. 2.)What is the story with 3D glasses that need rehanging and those that don't?And will the 3D effect look like the effect you get in cinemas?Does it look better or worse? I'm so confused.

Yes. That Samsung Tv performs very nicely.

Glasses are expensive and yes the 3d effect will look like what you see in the cinemas. Dont expect to be blown away as much due to the size. 3d always looks better when its bigger!

Dont be too worried about rechargable glasses or not just yet. Obviously if you can get glasses that recharge - Great. If Not, dont be too worried. I have glasses that dont recharge and I just have to buy batteries when they run out. No biggie. My glasses have watched probably around 10 to 12 hours of 3d content and have not had to be recharged yet.

[ChocolatePuddin]

Yes. That Samsung Tv performs very nicely. Glasses are expensive and yes the 3d effect will look like what you see in the cinemas. Dont expect to be blown away as much due to the size. 3d always looks better when its bigger! Dont be too worried about rechargable glasses or not just yet. Obviously if you can get glasses that recharge - Great. If Not, dont be too worried. I have glasses that dont recharge and I just have to buy batteries when they run out. No biggie. My glasses have watched probably around 10 to 12 hours of 3d content and have not had to be recharged yet.

Thanks for the info, I'm glad that I am not making a stupid choice in terms of the set.And then I obviously need a blu ray 3D player right?Doesnt the Ps3 let you watch stuff in 3D or is that only the games ?

[JoshuaJSlone]

PS3 will run Blu-ray 3D fine.

[Mattlikewhoa]

I went out again for a demo of a few 3D ready front projectors, and I had forgot how much size of the image impacts the 3D. I have found that the more of your vision you can fill with screen, the better the sense of 3D depth you get.

I love the 3D on my Sammy, but it's nothing compared to the 3D I had seen earlier this morning.

I need to get cracking on finishing the basement.

[StudioTan]

I went out again for a demo of a few 3D ready front projectors, and I had forgot how much size of the image impacts the 3D. I have found that the more of your vision you can fill with screen, the better the sense of 3D depth you get. I love the 3D on my Sammy, but it's nothing compared to the 3D I had seen earlier this morning. I need to get cracking on finishing the basement.

The ironic thing is I don't think most people realize that a projector and screen are about the same price as a decent large screen LCD. Less than $1000 and you can have a 9 foot screen and pretty decent 3D projector.

Now, having said that you'll still likely need another TV since most people can't or don't want to use a projector as their full time display but they're not hugely extravagant items as most people seem to assume.

[SillyEskimo]

The ironic thing is I don't think most people realize that a projector and screen are about the same price as a decent large screen LCD. Less than $1000 and you can have a 9 foot screen and pretty decent 3D projector. Now, having said that you'll still likely need another TV since most people can't or don't want to use a projector as their full time display but they're not hugely extravagant items as most people seem to assume.

The overwhelming majority of people simply do not have the space to display a 9ft image. If you try and use an existing space to display an image of that size, I think it's generally pretty tacky IMO. When I have a dedicated theater room, I may look into the tech but that is 4-5 years away. I go back and forth on a dedicated space for movie viewing.

[StudioTan]

The overwhelming majority of people simply do not have the space to display a 9ft image. If you try and use an existing space to display an image of that size, I think it's generally pretty tacky IMO. When I have a dedicated theater room, I may look into the tech but that is 4-5 years away. I go back and forth on a dedicated space for movie viewing.

You need a reasonable size room, sure, but you don't need an especially large space. My screen is 106" (just under 9 feet) and I'm about 16 feet back, but I've seen people do a great 96" image in much smaller rooms. You can even just paint a wall for projection and save yourself the price of the screen.

[zomgbbqftw]

About to buy the Sony HX853 55" after deciding against the HX923 last year. Glad I waited because the 55" Sony is only slightly larger than the 46" Panasonic that I have at the moment.

Looking at the TDG-BR750 glasses:



They are much more lightweight than the current ones.

[SomewhatGroovy]

I plan on buying a new 3D tele in next two weeks but have no clue what I'm looking for. Main use is for 3D Blu Rays and some gaming.

1) Can someone educate me at this point whether LCD/LED or Plasma is betetr for 3D


I've been thinking about either of these but was unsure how old the models in Costco, in particular, are.

Here is what I've been looking at:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+55%22...004_&lp=3&cp=1


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+...&skuId=4846783


My concern over the last one is a reported buzzing sound that emits from the TV.

[Dead]

3D has always looked better on Plasma to me

[Miyahon]

I plan on buying a new 3D tele in next two weeks but have no clue what I'm looking for. Main use is for 3D Blu Rays and some gaming. 1) Can someone educate me at this point whether LCD/LED or Plasma is betetr for 3D I've been thinking about either of these but was unsure how old the models in Costco, in particular, are. Here is what I've been looking at: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+55%22...004_&lp=3&cp=1 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+...&skuId=4846783 My concern over the last one is a reported buzzing sound that emits from the TV.

I ordered the Samsung E550 last week and will have it delivered this Wednesday. It came with a 3D WiFi Blu-ray player for free.

[SomewhatGroovy]

I ordered the Samsung E550 last week and will have it delivered this Wednesday. It came with a 3D WiFi Blu-ray player for free.

Post impressions IMO :)

[Pachinko]

Whoa, thanks for all the advice you guys ! I think I've decided to just wait a little while and grab a new receiver , currently I have a yamaha 6160 (b I think) , 2 hdmi 1.3 inputs and it supports 7.1 dts hd ma as well as dolby true HD. Thinking about it, I suppose it's 4 years old, I've had plenty of use out of it so it's not as though it's THAT wasteful to replace it. I did strongly consider the dual hdmi 3d bluray player option but that's really only a stop gap solution, eventually in theory I'll have 2 or 3 devices that I want 3d with at least some of the time so it might just be easiest to replace the receiver with one of the newer yamahas- the 571 has everything my current model has + hdmi 1.4 compatibility and like 6 hdmi inputs instead of the current 2 I have. Plus it seems to be only around 300 or so dollars because it's last years model.

I'd also really like to grab one of those st50 series panasonics but the 50 inch seems to be available online only in canada and it's hard to find glasses. There are many decisions I need to make about the 3d thing- will I care to use it often enough that I really want active 3d for the enhanced resolution or should I buy a competing brand to get much cheaper passive glasses and have more people able to see the depth...

Again though guys, thanks for the suggestions, I've actually mulled almost all of them over.

[LOZLINK]

This is just what I bought
Samsung HT-E6750W 7.1 Channel 3D Capable Blu-ray Home Theatre System