[Seraphis Cain]

So the other day I was doing some reading about Final Fight, my first "favorite game ever" (I'll always have fond memories of playing the Final Fight arcade cabinet at the pizza parlor my Dad used to take me to as a kid), and I ran across this tidbit:

Final Fight Streetwise is a tragedy of a game. When it was released, it was mocked relentless by critics and ignored by gamers, who felt the game's gritty visuals were a sell-out to attract the Grand Theft Auto audience. It was a massive flop at retail, and the development studio, the same American team behind Final Fight Revenge and the Maximo games, was shut down. The thing of it is, according to one of the developers, the original plan was to make a cel-shaded 3D beat-em-up using character designs from Capcom mainstay artist Akiman, but the suits in Japan wanted them to make the game more "American".

And I just got really, really sad thinking about what could have been. But what about now? Is it too late for Final Fight to make a real comeback? Final Fight characters have been popping up more lately than they have in years, with appearances in SSFIV, MVC3, and (eventually) SFxT. And with these characters being so much more recognizable than they have been in years, I think it's high time Final Fight made it's triumphant return.

Think about it. If you go the retail route, it could be something sorta like God Hand or Urban Reign. DD-route, maybe a 2.5D cel-shaded beat 'em up, or a 2D beat 'em up by ASW or something. And don't stop at just Cody, Guy, and Haggar. Throw in Carlos, Maki, Dean, and Lucia too. At the very least Maki, because she's awesome.

But yeah. Final Fight needs to come back. I need more Final Fight in my life. Thoughts, GAF?

[Bomber Bob]

Kickstarter

[we.are.the.armada]

So, would it be like Dynasty Warriors or something? Or more like Witcher 2?

[Sir_Crocodile]

And don't stop at just Cody, Guy, and Haggar. Throw in Carlos, Maki, Dean, and Lucia too. At the very least Maki, because she's awesome.

on-disk dlc

[Seraphis Cain]

on-disk dlc

Was waiting for this. :lol

[Oni Link 666]

At one point it sounded like Ono was interested in bringing it back. I think he said he was in charge of anything Final Fight around the time FF Double Impact came out. Also, Capcom said they were interested in making more HD remixes besides Super Street Fighter II and Super Puzzle Fighter. Nothing ever came of that though.

I would love either a Final Fight HD Remix or a new Final Fight, maybe with SFIV style graphics.

[drspeedy]

don't call it a come back... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg

I'd be in, totally FF was an awesome arcade game. Wasted a lot of quarters on that game.

[Xander51]

I love Final Fight. The Super NES version was my first game for that system and I played the crap out of it. When I eventually got to play it in the arcade and later on the Sega CD, I remember being floored that Guy existed.

[Seraphis Cain]

I clearly remember walking into Blockbuster when I was quite young and seeing stacks of Final Fight Guy piled up in the center of the store.

I'll always regret not begging my parents for it. :lol

[JonathanPower]

So the other day I was doing some reading about Final Fight, my first "favorite game ever" (I'll always have fond memories of playing the Final Fight arcade cabinet at the pizza parlor my Dad used to take me to as a kid), and I ran across this tidbit: And I just got really, really sad thinking about what could have been. But what about now? Is it too late for Final Fight to make a real comeback? Final Fight characters have been popping up more lately than they have in years, with appearances in SSFIV, MVC3, and (eventually) SFxT. And with these characters being so much more recognizable than they have been in years, I think it's high time Final Fight made it's triumphant return. Think about it. If you go the retail route, it could be something sorta like God Hand or Urban Reign. DD-route, maybe a 2.5D cel-shaded beat 'em up, or a 2D beat 'em up by ASW or something. And don't stop at just Cody, Guy, and Haggar. Throw in Carlos, Maki, Dean, and Lucia too. At the very least Maki, because she's awesome. But yeah. Final Fight needs to come back. I need more Final Fight in my life. Thoughts, GAF?

I'd love to also see a Street of Rage remake, and I heard that there was a Street of Rage remake in the work by Sega:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paXoV...eature=related

[Criminal Upper]

FINAL FIGHT SEVEN SONS







This game was in BETA, when Capcom marketing and execs were still all aboard the GTA hype train. They then asked for the game to be retooled to be more urban and gritty. So it was delayed another year.

Final Fight Streetwise, I feel, gets a bum rap. It has a bad camera, substandard graphics, and some poor hub design, but the game has a great script, good voice acting, and lots of great nods to the previous titles. It also fleshes out Haggar, Cody and Guy really well. And best of all, its fighting system is fun.

I talked to Sven when I was invited to last year's Captivate, and I asked him how were the sales of Final Fight Double Impact, which was released on XBLA and PSN a few months prior, and he said while it didn't light the world on fire, it made them money. So that's a good sign.

I think having a digital download version, a 16-bit demake in the style of Mega Man 9, 10, for XBLA, PSN, 10$, online and local co-op, etc 2 would be awesome.

Final Fight 4!

[kunonabi]

I can't see modern capcom doing anything worthwhile with FF to be honest. Streets of Rage has better shot of getting a quality update.

[Criminal Upper]

I can't see modern capcom doing anything worthwhile with FF to be honest. Streets of Rage has better shot of getting a quality update.

Final Fight Double Impact was a great release. Lots of extra content, GGPO, tons of graphical filters and display options.

[Air Zombie Meat]

I'd love to also see a Street of Rage remake, and I heard that there was a Street of Rage remake in the work by Sega: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paXoV...eature=related

Did you miss the fan made SOR remake that came out fairly recently? It's really good. Sega shut it down after it's final release but you should be able to find it somewhere out there.

Final Fight Double Impact was a great release. Lots of extra content, GGPO, tons of graphical filters and display options.

Agreed.

[Parallax Scroll]

Final Fight Double Impact was a great release. Lots of extra content, GGPO, tons of graphical filters and display options.

Cool music too.

They should make a Final Fight MMO where there are thousands of people walking around punching each other.

[Seraphis Cain]

Wow, I never even knew about Seven Sons. Thanks for that! (Actually I was kinda waiting for you to post, since I know how big of a Final Fight fan you are. :lol)

And yeah, I think giving Final Fight the Mega Man 9 treatment would work great. Though I'm sure it'd probably get outsourced, ASW if we're lucky, TOSE if we aren't. Prior to Double Dragon Neon being announced, I would have said WayForward would be a good fit, but now I'm not so sure. Though of course I'll wait until I actually play Neon to make final judgement there.

[Shadow Hog]

I can't see modern capcom doing anything worthwhile with FF to be honest. Streets of Rage has better shot of getting a quality update.

Do a crossover.

Gang violence is up in Metro City. Guy and former mayor Mike Haggar, concerned for the safety of the town, decide to investigate. Suddenly, they bump into Cody and a mysterious woman - but this can't be right, Cody is in jail! But it isn't Cody - it's Axel Stone, and the woman is Blaze Fielding, both having come to Metro City to investigate leads surrounding the remains of the notorious X-Syndicate. Turns out, it wasn't as dead as they thought it was after the notorious Raxine nuke/robot duplicate incidents from SoR3, and given the Syndicate has shown they have no qualms in starting international incidents so long as they profit, they're here to shut them down for good.

Thus, both bands team up and fight against old foes from both series, as well as all-new ones, until they reach the headquarters of the Syndicate, only to find, oh no! Mr. X wasn't dead after all, and that brain in a jar was an impostor?

...

...yeah, I have an overactive (and excessively fan fiction-y) imagination. Sorry.

[Noisepurge]

i doubt this series can return, maybe just as a crappy-ish 3D polygon PSN/XBLA title like the new Double Dragon revival :/

[RedSwirl]

The whole fucking genre needs to come back. It's perfect for today's gaming landscape.

Hack n' slash action games are popular right now and use very similar mechanics, and co-op is popular again. All someone needs to do is make a game like God of War/Devil May Cry but hand-to-hand, and then give it online co-op.

[Raide]

Stay the hell away from 3D. Just give me some delicious 2D art and silky animations...boom!

[Credo]

The whole fucking genre needs to come back. It's perfect for today's gaming landscape. Hack n' slash action games are popular right now and use very similar mechanics, and co-op is popular again. All someone needs to do is make a game like God of War/Devil May Cry but hand-to-hand, and then give it online co-op.

/cosigned

After playing Final Fight again on Capcom Classics Collection a couple of months ago, I'd buy pretty much any game like it or Streets of Rage on day 1.

[Zee-Row]

I'd like to see Final Fight but with RPG elements and branching paths like Guardian Heroes.

[Seraphis Cain]

I'd like to see Final Fight but with RPG elements and branching paths like Guardian Heroes.

This is the best idea.

[RedSwirl]

Stay the hell away from 3D. Just give me some delicious 2D art and silky animations...boom!

Just think: A Double Dragon game that looks like KOF XIII, or at least a Final Fight game that looks like Street Fighter IV. Damn, just thinking about that makes me wonder why the fuck they haven't made a Final Fight game using the SFIV engine. It's almost too good a fit.

[joe2187]

While I would like to see final fight make a comeback It's fighting system was archaic, It needs a redesign on that point.

In terms of a better fighting system, use AVP as an example.

Now what would really be awesome is if we ditch these awful 3D AVP shooter games and go back to what a true AVP game should be...pure fucken awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJf82cogZew

[Criminal Upper]

Capcom is unable to re-release AVP, as Sega owns the license for now.

[Criminal Upper]

i doubt this series can return, maybe just as a crappy-ish 3D polygon PSN/XBLA title like the new Double Dragon revival :/

TO BE FAIR, that DD game does indeed, look horrible visually, but everyone that played it at Pax said it's really fun.

[RedSwirl]

Looks like the closest thing we're gonna get is Dragon's Crown, which they admitted was pretty much a successor to Dungeons & Dragons Tower of Doom.

[Criminal Upper]

[mikeeb13]

Kickstarter

of course :rofl:

in all honesty as a fan I'd love to see it come back, even final fight my iphone gets some serious play and there are certainly better versions. One big problem that I see is that the game itself is a pretty simple formula that probably wouldn't be able to stand on it's own two legs anymore. It'd have to be changed/updgraded/etc and that runs risk of pissing off the people that are already FF fans, let alone new audiences who have no idea what FF is

[leehom]

What about Double Dragon? DD and FF were my two favs back in the days.

[ReXXXSoprano]

FINAL FIGHT SEVEN SONS http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/FF/FFSSlogo.png http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/g...ons/ffss13.jpg http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/g...ons/ffss30.jpg This game was in BETA, when Capcom marketing and execs were still all aboard the GTA hype train. They then asked for the game to be retooled to be more urban and gritty. So it was delayed another year. Final Fight Streetwise, I feel, gets a bum rap. It has a bad camera, substandard graphics, and some poor hub design, but the game has a great script, good voice acting, and lots of great nods to the previous titles. It also fleshes out Haggar, Cody and Guy really well. And best of all, its fighting system is fun. I talked to Sven when I was invited to last year's Captivate, and I asked him how were the sales of Final Fight Double Impact, which was released on XBLA and PSN a few months prior, and he said while it didn't light the world on fire, it made them money. So that's a good sign. I think having a digital download version, a 16-bit demake in the style of Mega Man 9, 10, for XBLA, PSN, 10$, online and local co-op, etc 2 would be awesome. Final Fight 4!

Look at you saying all the shit I was going to say. And I'm very surprised you didn't make this thread.

Being honest though, 7 Sons is what we should've gotten. It looked and felt like a true successor to the franchise. On the other hand Streetwise would've fared a whole lot better without the Final Fight name on it. See Devil May Cry 2.

Streetwise was decent game. The problem was it didn't get there fast enough for people to care about it. And then everybody took potshots at it. I'd urge anybody who's curious about the game to give it a fair try and then shit on it if you have to.

Capcom is unable to re-release AVP, as Sega owns the license for now.

This hasn't stopped other games that were in that same position. So that's a SEGA thing. They had a great opportunity when the AvP movie came out a couple of years back to release it themselves and they didn't. But this is the same company who's sitting on The Rumble Fish 1 & 2, DemolishFist and Dolphin Blue. If Capcom wanted to do if for the fans they could negotiate something if they really wanted to if it was financially feasible for them to do so. I'm so ready for Capcom to just start releasing their licensed games but if they can't make money doing so then they won't. Which does beg the question about The Punisher not being released on something by now. Maybe one day we'll be playing the HD versions of AvP and Shadow Over Mystara.

What about Double Dragon? DD and FF were my two favs back in the days.

Double Dragon Neon from WayForward will be out soon. And some of the members in this thread have expressed their opinion on the subject. I would suggest if you have a iDevice of some kind to play Double Dragon on that. Game is too good. If you liked Advance then you like that one as well.

EDIT: Just found out that Double Dragon is on Android now. Link below.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...S5nZ18xNDA3Il0.

[Professor Beef]

They would have to spruce up the engine. I tried playing Final Fight 3 recently, and it doesn't hold up well at all. It's excruciatingly slow!

Streets of Rage Remake set the bar way too high. Someone should just convince Sega to get Bombergames back to work on it and release it on XBL/PSN.

[massoluk]

Yeah, I really missed the golden age of this genre. Final Fight, Captain Commando, Golden Axe, AVP, that Romance of the Three Kingdoms beat'em up

[joe2187]

Capcom is unable to re-release AVP, as Sega owns the license for now.

[Gr1mLock]

I wish. Whenever companies sort of abandon these venerable franchises it just feels like they have no clue what to do with them. We could have so many awesome 2d 're imagined' titles by now.

[∀ Narayan]

Final Fight with God Hand-esque controls and gameplay?

Yes please.

[SalsaShark]

anything with God Hand-esque anything? Yes please.

fixed

[Ninja Scooter]

it's barely even a franchise (aside from Hagger and Guy being recognizable because of SF). Nostalgia aside there's nothing really remarkable about the FF games.

[Buddha Beam]

I would fuck a monkey at the zoo while all the zookeepers watched if they brought back Final Fight and made it play like God Hand.

Or Streets of Rage, since Platinum is apparently still with Sega.

[Desibabu]

I'd much prefer another Streets of Rage. Just not in the hands of Sega.

[daCuk]

I'd love to also see a Street of Rage remake, and I heard that there was a Street of Rage remake in the work by Sega: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paXoV...eature=related

Look for Streets of Rage Remake from BomberGames...
I can not believe what was Sega thinking when they let those guys (from Spain) work almost 8 years on the remake without complaining about it (BomberGames actually asked Sega permission to work on it, and Sega neither denied or approved of it), and, when they released for free (as they intended since the beginning), Sega asked them to refrain from doing that, as they were promoting the shitty port of SoR2 for iOS.

Another Sega boneheaded decision...

[Fularu]

I'd love to also see a Street of Rage remake, and I heard that there was a Street of Rage remake in the work by Sega: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paXoV...eature=related

Lol this is amazing and perfect! I was laughing my ass off watching it :D

[snkryo]

A beat em up rpg with characters from streets of rage, final fight, double dragon, battle toads and guardian heroes would be awesome.

[Dog Problems]

I mentioned it in another thread but a 2D Final Fight 4 is something I've been wanting for a long time. Final Fight 3 is one of my top favorite games and the thing I love about it is the variety of moves each character has. I love beat'em ups but I get bored quickly with a lot of them. FF3 is one of the few that never gets boring as I play through it and large part of that is because of all the moves. And I love the Street Fighter style of moves, especially how each character has an "ultra combo" or whatever you want to call it.

[sixteen-bit]

A beat em up rpg with characters from streets of rage, final fight, double dragon, battle toads and guardian heroes would be awesome.

I'm sure someone will do that in Beats of Rage

[jett]

Final Fight a shitty simpleminded game. It needs to stay right where it is. Games like Street of Rage 2 and Super Double Dragon are objectively better.

[Criminal Upper]

Final Fight a shitty simpleminded game. It needs to stay right where it is. Games like Street of Rage 2 and Super Double Dragon are objectively better.

Whatever you say. Feel free to start a Streets of Kangeroos thread if you like.

[b3b0p]

Honestly, as much as I love Final Fight back in the Arcade, SNES, I don't think it's possible for Capcom to successfully do anything with this series to make it better. In fact, I don't trust them to. I'd rather see a Streets of Rage or Double Dragon, or, in a perfect world, Battletoads.

Final Fight: Streetwise anyone?

[Dog Problems]

Honestly, as much as I love Final Fight back in the Arcade, SNES, I don't think it's possible for Capcom to successfully do anything with this series to make it better. In fact, I don't trust them to. I'd rather see a Streets of Rage or Double Dragon, or, in a perfect world, Battletoads. Final Fight: Streetwise anyone?

I don't think they could do anything good with it either. Those days are long gone. Best thing would be to outsource it to WayForward or something.