[HK-47]

What's so great about the gameplay? It's basically ME2's with a few token customizations added in. The combat is standard third-person shooter fare.

What TPS allows me to combo abilities like Me3?

[PairOfFilthySocks]

Vega is a waste of a squadmate.

After hearing the guy at Free Radical describe how EA made them use the Cortez character in Timesplitters 3, I guarantee you Vega was a result of EA demanding they put him in to appeal to demographic so-and-so.

[rozay]

After hearing the guy at Free Radical describe how EA made them use the Cortez character in Timesplitters 3, I guarantee you Vega was a result of EA demanding they put him in to appeal to demographic so-and-so.

He was Mac Walters's baby. I didn't have a problem with his character, he just had absolutely nothing interesting to say and no character development throughout the entire game. Walters said he was there for new players to connect with, but I don't feel they even scratched the surface of what they could've done with a young soldier.

I dunno. There were some nice touches in the character interactions but overall I was disappointed how little there was to talk about or learn when they had such a small number of squadmates. Kaidan and Ashley got the worst of it.

why couldn't they have another 6-12 months to finish the game :'(

[Kayo-kun]

Of course there is a point in playing ME3. There is so much hate for this game, but I can't see how they could have done a much better ending for it considering all the different choices they had to wrap up. If you're a fan of the series, I suggest you play and finish it even if the conclusion might not be satisfying.

[rozay]

Of course there is a point in playing ME3. There is so much hate for this game, but I can't see how they could have done a much better ending for it considering all the different choices they had to wrap up. If you're a fan of the series, I suggest you play and finish it even if the conclusion might not be satisfying.

simple, cut out everything starting with and after the magic elevator

[Gestahl]

but I can't see how they could have done a much better ending for it considering all the different choices they had to wrap up.

Hahahahahahahaahahahaha good one.

[Mooreberg]

It isn't even just the ending though. The really weird thing is that you can save the Rachni in Mass Effect 1, opt to do the mission that involves freeing Rachni from reaper control, and then.... ???? Not even a short in-engine scene of them helping to fight against Reapers. This extends to almost everything. Some characters you kept alive are spoken to via a hologram and then have nothing to do with the outcome.

The stupidity at the end isn't even the big problem (though hliarious in its own right), but the fact not a whole lot of what you did over the course of three games didn't matter for anything. A colossal waste of potential.

[Gestahl]

Joker phoning in on Earth at some point in a 4 second audio clip to say "Holy shit the Rachni are tearing things apart there's bug juice everywhere gross" - literally an objectively better ending than what we have

[Amory]

Mass Effect 3 is amazing. I haven't finished it yet, but the ending can't possibly be bad enough to ruin the experience overall. One of those rare games that's actually worth full retail price for all you'll get out of it.

[Chairman Yang]

What TPS allows me to combo abilities like Me3?

The Dead Spaces, the Ratchet and Clanks, pretty much any shooter that has ability usage in the first place. If you expand to first-person shooting you'll run into even more games that do similar things.

That said, pretty much every TPS, even the most generic ones, will have some small distinctions from the rest. That doesn't mean they don't have very standard combat, just like ME3 does.

[truly101]

I'd say yes, despite the ending, I really enjoyed the game. You have to make up your own mind as pretty much all gamers are a fickle and cynical lot, me included.

[leng jai]

If a game is fun then there's a point in playing it. People saying there's no point in playing the game because they hate the ending are talking nonsense.

[Big-E]

This game is the first time I have been able to just say, I don't need to play it. I watched videos of it in some key parts and read both spoiler threads and I feel like I have missed nothing. I have finally realized that I don't need to play everything and need to be more selective in what I dedicate to my time. Oh and I also saved money so the ME3 money went to Diablo III.

[Gestahl]

Games cost money, don't bother with 3 unless you can get it for 10-20 dollars. Also time. Time is valuable.

[xtrasauce]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant:

Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself.

That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

[massoluk]

Of course there is a point in playing ME3. There is so much hate for this game, but I can't see how they could have done a much better ending for it considering all the different choices they had to wrap up. If you're a fan of the series, I suggest you play and finish it even if the conclusion might not be satisfying.

They could have done it in the style of Fallout NV. One major choice, one clip. That would have at least been more satisfying than the infamous 3 choices of colors. Hey, you saved the Rachni? Here you go, a swarm of Rachni on a reaper.

[EmCeeGramr]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that: The twist that Reapers are actually a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from forever destroying itself? That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

Almost everyone says it doesn't make sense, because it doesn't. But that's a topic for the spoiler thread.

[xtrasauce]

Almost everyone says it doesn't make sense, because it doesn't. But that's a topic for the spoiler thread.

"You're wrong but you can't argue with me".

Well played, sir. Well played.

[EmCeeGramr]

"You're wrong but you can't argue with me". Well played, sir. Well played.

Actually I told you to go to another thread to argue it.

[PsychoWARD23]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant: Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself. That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

oh man

lol

[xtrasauce]

Actually I told you to go to another thread to argue it.

I don't see much of a difference. Whatever. I'm not going to search for another thread where I can post about this again in the hopes that you might then give me a real answer.

[Gestahl]

I don't see much of a difference. Whatever. I'm not going to search for another thread where I can post about this again in the hopes that you might then give me a real answer.

It's like on the second page in the community section you dip

[DTKT]

Go here

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...67193&page=287

Yes, if you are a fan of the ME series, you should buy ME3. It's a good game with some terrible moments.

[Synless]

You guys have some some unnecessary hate for this game. The only thing bad about it was the ending, the rest of the game was fantastic.

[Gestahl]

You guys have some some unnecessary hate for this game. The only thing bad about it was the ending, the rest of the game was fantastic.

Kai Leng.

[DTKT]

Kai Leng.

Shitty journal, fetch quests, lack of neutral dialogue, turret sequences ad nauseam. ME3 has more faults than a shitty ending.

[Y2Kev]

I don't see much of a difference. Whatever. I'm not going to search for another thread where I can post about this again in the hopes that you might then give me a real answer.

Here, you don't have to search for the thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...67193&page=287

The difference is that this isn't the spoiler thread. The topic poster has obviously not played the game.

[pmj]

And all of earth, reapers in the galaxy map, awful scripted sequences, and ham-fisted attempts at giving Shepard a personality.

Still worth playing, though.

[truly101]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant: Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself. That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

The reasoning was bad. If it had been that once galactic civilization reaches a certain point, it starts to destroy more than it creates, then the reapers make sense. When you see what the protheans really were, you see the genophage, the rachnii being wiped out, the quarian/geth conflict, you can see where Computer God says, okay, time to hit reset. But the reason they gave was stupid, and disproven depending on how you handle the Quarian/Geth sidequest.

[bill.cosby]

I really didn't enjoy the game as a whole, so my vote would be no. It's not just the ending. They do resolve a couple long standing conflicts in the universe that were the highlights to me, but that wasn't worth the $40 I paid for it.

Recently, I played through ME1 again and just pretended that was the end of the series. It's relatively satisfying as long as you're willing to deny reality that more games were made.

[massoluk]

Oh, yeah, NO KROGAN as a teammate. Crime of the century.

[Bornstellar]

Oh, yeah, NO KROGAN as a teammate. Crime of the century.

Was sad that Wrex was not a permanent fixture after Tuchanka. :( Wanted the true trio back - Shep, Wrex, and Garrus.

[Crewnh]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant: Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself. That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

Fuck no

[TwiztidElf]

I rolled straight out of ME3, and into Uncharted3, and it's like night and day. The quality, production values, delivery and smoothness of UC3 make it a complete joy to play after the sluggish, filler filled, forced, strained dialogue of ME3.

[DanielJr82]

I'd say get it just to say you did, and be on the same boat as everybody else.

[Clint Beastwood]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant: Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself. That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

Sarcasm?

I'm pretty sure but I just want to verify. Kind of hard to do so over the internet.

[HK-47]

The Dead Spaces, the Ratchet and Clanks, pretty much any shooter that has ability usage in the first place. If you expand to first-person shooting you'll run into even more games that do similar things. That said, pretty much every TPS, even the most generic ones, will have some small distinctions from the rest. That doesn't mean they don't have very standard combat, just like ME3 does.

Dead Space has very basic comboing. Like shooting a slowed target. There is nothing like biotic combos or tech bursts nor the variety of say shotgun infiltrators versus sniper infiltrators. Combat is quite good. Its everything else that doesnt pull its weight.

[subversus]

I think i'll receive my copy monday or tuesday. I haaated the demo (dialogues and cutscenes and running animations were horrible). But i'm sure i'll like the core gameplay. This thread has me worried though... they didn't fuck up the core gameplay, right?

Core gameplay like making choices, dialogues and general role playing? Yes, they fucked it up.

[JasonMCG]

Having never played a ME title (and never wanting to), I decided to wiki the ending to ME3. I really don't see what the big deal is. Why all the uproar? Seems pretty derivitive to me. Is it because no matter what you do, Shepard dies at the end which negates the entire choice mechanic of the series?

[DTKT]

Having never played a ME title (and never wanting to), I decided to wiki the ending to ME3. I really don't see what the big deal is. Why all the uproar? Seems pretty derivitive to me. Is it because no matter what you do, Shepard dies at the end which negates the entire choice mechanic of the series?

We have a thread discussing spoilers, here

But as for your question.

Not really. It's mostly that the 3 choices are kind of dumb and forced on the player. They also invalidates most of the big decisions of ME3.

[soldat7]

Despite my initial rants, ME3 is way better than ME2. It's an excellent game in many ways, and it feels quite varied. Lots of flaws, but it ain't no DA2.

[massoluk]

Having never played a ME title (and never wanting to), I decided to wiki the ending to ME3. I really don't see what the big deal is. Why all the uproar? Seems pretty derivitive to me. Is it because no matter what you do, Shepard dies at the end which negates the entire choice mechanic of the series?

People who played Mass Effect were promised a lot of things for the finale ending, and it wasn't 3 choices of colors.

[hlhbk]

Up until the ending Mass Effect 3 was the best game in the series. The ending however is pretty terrible.

[Always-honest]

i'm playing the game now. I guess i'm about halfway through but i'm taking it slow.
A bit like Zelda.. lots of sidequests, investing time in relationships.

I have to say... aside from the truely horrible horrible first level (the demo level), the game is pretty fucking good. I still love the gameplay mechanics and, it being part 3, The Normandy really feels like home and i really liked meeting some of the characters again.
And to be able to continue with your customised character from part 1 is just the greatest things since sliced bread.

Some downsides so far:
The art direction in characters in part 3 seems to be directed by someone who visites the gym too much... I feel like i'm watching a all american body build contest with fake boobs and plastic surgery.

You have to stand at reallllly specific spots to get a button indication to speak to someone or to activate something...

And what the fuck is that IGN girl doing in my Normandy????? She looks so horrible by the way :P.. (nothing against her, but what is she doing in ME3).

Anyway, i love some of the environments, the atmosphere, and god, the sound and music are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo good.

Amazing game, even with its flaws.


edit: forgot about the disc shanging............... goddamn. It made me laugh, cause it happened twice in one hour...That shit needs to go.
I wonder how many times i have to switch in the entire game, cause it feels pretty random.

[Muffdraul]

I think it was totally worth it and I think you'd be cheating yourself if you played 1 and 2 then stopped. I had no problems with the ending. I wasn't exactly emotionally invested, though. I can't imagine what it's like to give enough of a shit to have the reaction so many people had. I don't know if I've ever felt that way about *anything*.

[Gui_PT]

I think it was totally worth it and I think you'd be cheating yourself if you played 1 and 2 then stopped. I had no problems with the ending. I wasn't exactly emotionally invested, though. I can't imagine what it's like to give enough of a shit to have the reaction so many people had. I don't know if I've ever felt that way about *anything*.

Do you need a hug?

Come here baby

[ShutEye]

A glance at the Bioware forums shows there are known issues where some players (like me!) are unable to play the game without compromised features or time-consuming work around.

I wouldn't recommend anyone buy the game until the technical issues are addressed.

[Muffdraul]

Do you need a hug? Come here baby

No thanks, I'm good. I can think of a few thousand ME fans who apparently need one a hell of a lot more than I.

[Mitsurux]

OP if you enjoyed the first 2 games, you should at least finish the trilogy.

The ending may or may not sit well with you, but at least then you can join the conversation.

Personally i enjoyed the game, but the ending just seemd so abrupt with how it tied things up... (But i don't know if any ending would have really been perfect)

[nel e nel]

For the (surprisingly many to me) people who think the ending is complete rubbish. Don't you at least think that this twist was brilliant: Reapers are a measure taken by an artificial intelligence to protect organic life from permanently destroying itself. That blew my mind and although I'll agree the execution was not perfect, I'll fight anyone who says it doesn't make sense.

That's if you believe it's an AI, and not a VI left by the actual race of organics that created the Reapers, like Vigil