[narcosis219]

I would find a way to cram some Cloudshifts in that deck. That might not be the actual best card to include, but I totally love that card and there are a lot of tricks you can pull with the creatures in that deck.

I was considering this, but then i couldnt find many other white creatures with awesome etb (like blade splicer). I chose restoration angel over cloudshift because she works with honor and it doesnt hurt to have a flyer.

I might side in white zombie apocalypse for shits and giggles if i ever pull one lol.

Regarding land balance... Should i go down from 24? It is a weenie deck, but i do need that fourth land consistently to land the bladehold. If i do move down from 24, should i maindeck o rings in their place?

[WanderingWind]

I was considering this, but then i couldnt find many other white creatures with awesome etb (like blade splicer). I chose restoration angel over cloudshift because she works with honor and it doesnt hurt to have a flyer. I might side in white zombie apocalypse for shits and giggles if i ever pull one lol. Regarding land balance... Should i go down from 24? It is a weenie deck, but i do need that fourth land consistently to land the bladehold. If i do move down from 24, should i maindeck o rings in their place?

I think 24 is perfect, IMO. It's what I'd run with what you have.

I'm basically the 1st Prophet of the Non-Denominational Church of Cloudshift, and while I think it's very useful for you, I can't say it's necessary. I mean, it does dodge O-Ring and GFFT and Tragic Slip and Vapor Snag and

PUT IN CLOUDSHIFT!!!!!

[ultron87]

I was considering this, but then i couldnt find many other white creatures with awesome etb (like blade splicer). I chose restoration angel over cloudshift because she works with honor and it doesnt hurt to have a flyer.

You can also pull some fun shenanigans with rebonding Silverblade Paladin mid-combat, get additional pumps on your Champions, and get a bonus permanent exile with Fiend Hunter if you have an extra mana and a Cloudshift when you cast him.

[narcosis219]

You can also pull some fun shenanigans with rebonding Silverblade Paladin mid-combat, get additional pumps on your Champions, and get a bonus permanent exile with Fiend Hunter if you have an extra mana and a Cloudshift when you cast him.

Omg genius

Brb gonna look for my cloudshifts

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Omg genius Brb gonna look for my cloudshifts

:lol It makes me want to get rid of somethings in my humans deck to have like all bounce effects like this to mess things up.

[WanderingWind]

Favorite cards from this set are Abundant Growth and Cloudshift. I see both of them being played for a long time too.

Wild Growth + Abundant Growth = AWESOME.

[y2dvd]

WHOO HOOO!!! Got my playset of Cavern of Souls and Temporal Mastery...all for 60 bucks! Only card I don't have a playset of from Avacyn is Entreat...once I have that, I'm done buying cards until October.

WTFFFFFFFFF? Cavern is like $30 a pop and Temporal $20. Rage!

Needs more Lingering Souls.

Lingering Souls doesn't power up CotP though, and he has plenty of 3 drops already.

narcosis219, I'd take out 2 Gather the Townfolks for Cloudshifts and main board 2 or 3 O-rings (taking out 1 Paladin, 1 Blade Splicer, and maybe 1 Restoration Angel. I like to also run 1 Faithless Shield. Add 2-3 Moorland Haunts because it adds values to all of your creatures and benefits from Honor of the Pure.

[ChubbyHuggs]

So I decided to make a deck with the new cards I got and some random old ones. I'm planning of cutting down a little on instants and creatures, so maybe some Students of Warfare instead of the other 1 mana cost. This is all just for casual play and it's 84 in total.

Land:

13x Forest
13x Plains
2x Saraph Sanctuary

Creatures:

2x Steward of Valeron
2x Cathedral Sanctifier
2x Wildwood Geist
2x Voice of the Provinces
2x Seraph of Dawn
1x Sigarda, Host of Herons
1x Qasali Ambusher
1x Rhox Bodyguard
1x Thraben Valiant
1x Nearheath Pilgrim
1x Midnight Duelist
1x Howlgeist
1x Archangel
1x Vorstclaw
1x Goldnight Redeemer

Instant:

3x Turn to Mist
3x Natural End
2x Æthertow
2x Angel's Mercy
2x Barkshell Blessing
2x Cursebreak
2x Righteous Blow
1x Sigil Blessing
1x Terrifying Presence
1x Zealous Strike
1x Cloudshift

Enchantments:
2x Bower Passage
1x Curse of Chains
1x Grounded
1x Oakenform
1x Builder's Blessing

Sorcery:

3x Rampant Growth
2x Lair Delve
1x Rain of Thorns

Artifact:

3x Scroll of Avacyn
1x Bladed Bracers

[narcosis219]

WTFFFFFFFFF? Cavern is like $30 a pop and Temporal $20. Rage! Lingering Souls doesn't power up CotP though, and he has plenty of 3 drops already. narcosis219, I'd take out 2 Gather the Townfolks for Cloudshifts and main board 2 or 3 O-rings (taking out 1 Paladin, 1 Blade Splicer, and maybe 1 Restoration Angel. I like to also run 1 Faithless Shield. Add 2-3 Moorland Haunts because it adds values to all of your creatures and benefits from Honor of the Pure.

Moorlands? I dont think i want to splash in islands cause it will mess with my draw consistency and i dont have glacial fortress/seachrome on me.

Ill probably make substitutions along those lines though, thanks

[kevinski]

I love MTG!

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tried to build a landless deck?

[narcosis219]

I love MTG! Out of curiosity, has anyone here tried to build a landless deck?

Nope, but see Lost in the Woods deck for some almost all lands shenanigans

[ChubbyHuggs]

I love MTG! Out of curiosity, has anyone here tried to build a landless deck?

I've heard about people doing it, but I don't know how it works.

[WanderingWind]

Moorlands? I dont think i want to splash in islands cause it will mess with my draw consistency and i dont have glacial fortress/seachrome on me. Ill probably make substitutions along those lines though, thanks

I dunno. I'd try out your deck as is. It wants to be a linear aggro deck with a couple of tricks. Change out too many ways to deal damage to play more tricks and you have a middling deck that doesn't seem to do any one thing really well.

Really, you should play a bunch of games and see what happens.

[Keru_Shiri]

I may have one. I never use Eldrazi either. I'll check...a much easier prospect now.

Awesome! Just send me a list of what you're looking for, and I'll see what I can come up with.

[The Technomancer]

I love MTG! Out of curiosity, has anyone here tried to build a landless deck?

Hm, would it be as simple as running the various Lotus and Mox variants they've printed over the years or is there some kind of specific combo that works?

[y2dvd]

Moorlands? I dont think i want to splash in islands cause it will mess with my draw consistency and i dont have glacial fortress/seachrome on me. Ill probably make substitutions along those lines though, thanks

Ah, yeah then I wouldn't bother without the duolands. I run monowhite humans too and Moorland is awesome. 1 Riders of Gavony is also awesome as you can name protection from creatures. It was hilarious when I casted it on my friend's zombie deck and he could not do a single thing. The few kill cards he tried to target it with, I just Cloudshift or Faithless Shield it lol.

[WanderingWind]

So I decided to make a deck with the new cards I got and some random old ones. I'm planning of cutting down a little on instants and creatures, so maybe some Students of Warfare instead of the other 1 mana cost. This is all just for casual play and it's 84 in total. Land: 13x Forest 13x Plains 2x Saraph Sanctuary Creatures: 2x Steward of Valeron 2x Cathedral Sanctifier 2x Wildwood Geist 2x Voice of the Provinces 2x Seraph of Dawn 1x Sigarda, Host of Herons 1x Qasali Ambusher 1x Rhox Bodyguard 1x Thraben Valiant 1x Nearheath Pilgrim 1x Midnight Duelist 1x Howlgeist 1x Archangel 1x Vorstclaw 1x Goldnight Redeemer Instant: 3x Turn to Mist 3x Natural End 2x Æthertow 2x Angel's Mercy 2x Barkshell Blessing 2x Cursebreak 2x Righteous Blow 1x Sigil Blessing 1x Terrifying Presence 1x Zealous Strike 1x Cloudshift Enchantments: 2x Bower Passage 1x Curse of Chains 1x Grounded 1x Oakenform 1x Builder's Blessing Sorcery: 3x Rampant Growth 2x Lair Delve 1x Rain of Thorns Artifact: 3x Scroll of Avacyn 1x Bladed Bracers

Well, looks fun to play! When you play it, keep track of what you wish you could've done and adjust to fit your tastes!

I really like Bladed Bracers, btw. Fun little artifact

[TheSeks]

Sad there's no Plains one but I guess it wouldn't fit with white on white. :/

[narcosis219]

Sad there's no Plains one but I guess it wouldn't fit with white on white. :/

What kind of spray did you use?

[WanderingWind]

Sad there's no Plains one but I guess it wouldn't fit with white on white. :/

How the heck did you do the stencils?

[TheSeks]

It's not mine and there is a Plains one but not shown in those photos.

[ultron87]

I ended up buying one of these things to hold my cards which were overfilling the fat pack boxes I had been using.

It is far larger than you would expect based on the picture. Thankfully I have a long way to go till I fill it.

[The Technomancer]

I ended up buying one of these things to hold my cards which were overfilling the fat pack boxes I had been using. It is far larger than you would expect based on the picture. Thankfully I have a long way to go till I fill it.

I need the storage space, especially after doing Innistrad limited so much, but I'm not a huge fan of the white cardboard look. I should look into making something nice like WW was working on.

[Venfayth]

I did not think I would like playing Tibalt, but since I've pulled two of him, I'm trying him out. I actually do not mind him. His +1 is basically: Don't like your hand? Have a chance at getting a better card!

Also, using his -4 after a Reforge the Soul is pretty slick :p

[The Technomancer]

Yeah, Tibalt looks a bit lackluster at first blush but the fact that he's two mana makes him strong.

[Keru_Shiri]

Yeah, I see Tibalt in the same light as Shrine. Slowly ticking up, forcing your opponent to either waste time and energy dealing with him, or get a hurting later on.

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I ended up buying one of these things to hold my cards which were overfilling the fat pack boxes I had been using. It is far larger than you would expect based on the picture. Thankfully I have a long way to go till I fill it.

I want these, I just wish I could find them locally rather than pay shipping.

[Venfayth]

I want these, I just wish I could find them locally rather than pay shipping.

Yeah x_x

My LGS actually has small ones, but not the big multi-compartment ones :(

[WanderingWind]

I think I found a niche market. Lol

[divisionbyzorro]

Yeah, I see Tibalt in the same light as Shrine. Slowly ticking up, forcing your opponent to either waste time and energy dealing with him, or get a hurting later on.

I dream of pulling some Tibalts when AVR hits MTGO and exploring what he can do to a Burning Vengeance deck.

[Haly]

It'll probably be a $5-10 mythic as long as no one breaks him before AVR is released on MTGO.

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Yeah x_x My LGS actually has small ones, but not the big multi-compartment ones :(

Same, they just have short ones which feel like a waste.

[y2dvd]

For those box storage, what do you use to prevent the cards from sliding all over any space left in the slots? I tend to lay a deck box inbetween but hate the fact that I always forget I place my decks in there lol.

[f0rk]

I dream of pulling some Tibalts when AVR hits MTGO and exploring what he can do to a Burning Vengeance deck.

I don't think he'd be that good, I would rather cast both sides of the flashback cards than randomly discard them before using. You have so much draw available in that deck anyway.

[echoshifting]

For those box storage, what do you use to prevent the cards from sliding all over any space left in the slots? I tend to lay a deck box inbetween but hate the fact that I always forget I place my decks in there lol.

Those cardboard things you get with fat packs work really well. You can cut them to fit as you use up box space. Also, basic land, or even trash commons. Cards from defunct ccgs I will never play again, like spellforce or overpower. Newspaper, paper towels or cloth, depending on how obsessive you are with pristine cards...Heck i bet I could put together some kind of LEGO contraption to get the job done ;)

[ChubbyHuggs]

Well, looks fun to play! When you play it, keep track of what you wish you could've done and adjust to fit your tastes! I really like Bladed Bracers, btw. Fun little artifact

Well, I've won 6 out of 10 matches. Mostly I just had trouble bringing in creatures faster. I'm looking for some lower cost creatures to bring out, green or white. Steward of Valeron helped quite a bit in my last few matches.

[divisionbyzorro]

I don't think he'd be that good, I would rather cast both sides of the flashback cards than randomly discard them before using. You have so much draw available in that deck anyway.

On the flipside, I'd rather hit a flashback card with Tibalt than anything else...

[Venfayth]

Got my full playset of Vexing Devils :D Thanks OnPoint :)

[Veezy]

For those box storage, what do you use to prevent the cards from sliding all over any space left in the slots? I tend to lay a deck box inbetween but hate the fact that I always forget I place my decks in there lol.

Generally, when you have them shipped from Amazon, you'll received the not assembled box within a huge cardboard box. Take scissors and cut out strips of cardboard that you need. then, as your collection grows, just fold it back to adjust.

I'm having a problem with figuring out how to transport my collection. I'm moving from Knoxville, TN to Las Vegas and can't find a good way to move all my cards. Currently, they're in the 5k size boxes, but shipping a full size of that is neither easy nor cheap.

[siddx]

I feel like mono white humans for type 2 should be strong, but I just cant find the motivation to throw it together

4X mirran crusador
4X fiend hunter
4X champion of the parish
2X blade splicer
2X silverblade paladin
4X Hero of bladehold
4X Thalia
4X Grand abolisher
2X Thraben Doomsayer

4X O ring
2X sword of feast and famine
2X sword of war and peace

22X plains


Maybe throw Avacyn and some avacyian priests in the sideboard with some wogs or something.

[narcosis219]

I feel like mono white humans for type 2 should be strong, but I just cant find the motivation to throw it together 4X mirran crusador 4X fiend hunter 4X champion of the parish 2X blade splicer 2X silverblade paladin 4X Hero of bladehold 4X Thalia 4X Grand abolisher 2X Thraben Doomsayer 4X O ring 2X sword of feast and famine 2X sword of war and peace 22X plains Maybe throw Avacyn and some avacyian priests in the sideboard with some wogs or something.

Well, look back a page and check my list out. It has some flicker tricks in there to keep things a bit less brain-dead when you're playing.

4 thalia's might be a problem because she is a Legendary creature. Also, I think paired with abolisher might be overkill. I'd say one or the other.

[siddx]

Well, look back a page and check my list out. It has some flicker tricks in there to keep things a bit less brain-dead when you're playing. 4 thalia's might be a problem because she is a Legendary creature. Also, I think paired with abolisher might be overkill. I'd say one or the other.

Thats supposed to be 2 Thalias, I was wondering why my count was off and I had to leave out some cards.

[narcosis219]

So i put in Mr. Hayne's deck and played a game on cockatrice.

Kept a 6 land hand. Top decked 3 Temporal masteries at one point in the match.

It was glorious.

[y2dvd]

I feel like mono white humans for type 2 should be strong, but I just cant find the motivation to throw it together 4X mirran crusador 4X fiend hunter 4X champion of the parish 2X blade splicer 2X silverblade paladin 4X Hero of bladehold 4X Thalia 4X Grand abolisher 2X Thraben Doomsayer 4X O ring 2X sword of feast and famine 2X sword of war and peace 22X plains Maybe throw Avacyn and some avacyian priests in the sideboard with some wogs or something.

Might as well most my Humans deck.

4x Champion of the Parish
4x Doomed Traveler (cheap one drops to help CotP get counters faster and it has nice utility)
2x Thalia
2x Elite Inquisitor (I love first strikers. Him over Grand Abolisher since you see less counter spells being played thanks to Cavern of Souls. Might sideboard GA for tapping decks)
2x Mirran Crusader
4x Silverblade Paladin
2x Fiend Hunter
2x Hero of Bladehold
1x Riders of Gavony
1x Angel of Jubilation (would throw in a 3rd Bladehold but testing Jubilation out)

1x Cloudshift
1x Faith's Shield
1x Terminus
2x Righteous Blow (helps with pesky Stormkirk Nobles/Delver/Inkmoth)
2x Gavony Townsfolk

2x O-Ring
4x Honor of the Pure

3x Sword of War and Peace

2x Cavern of Souls
4x Glacial Fortress
2x Moorland Haunts
1x Island
1x Evolving Wilds
8x Plains
(would take out EW, Island, and 2 Plains for Seachrome Coast if I had it ;_;)
Since this deck isn't heavy on blinking, I choose Mirran Crusaders and Silverblade Paladin over Blade Splicers.

[OnPoint]

Got my full playset of Vexing Devils :D Thanks OnPoint :)

No problem. I hope they get some solid use my man

[y2dvd]

So who got the hookups here? I want a playset of Restoration Angels! :D

[WanderingWind]

Anybody else want to unload their Vexing Devils and/or have some extra Entreats, I'm in the market!

[OnPoint]

Are there any cards in standard right now that benefit from having a large amount of life? I'm trying to figure out an end game for a life gain deck but I'm drawing a blank.

[The Technomancer]

Are there any cards in standard right now that benefit from having a large amount of life? I'm trying to figure out an end game for a life gain deck but I'm drawing a blank.

In standard? No, all I can think of is the Zendikar mythic that wins you the game when your life is over 40

[WanderingWind]

Are there any cards in standard right now that benefit from having a large amount of life? I'm trying to figure out an end game for a life gain deck but I'm drawing a blank.

If you could figure out something with flashback, curses and life gain, maybe?

Your stuff arrived today, btw. I also got confirmation that the stuff I sent you was delivered to you today also.