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Originally Posted by Htown: View Post
And before anyone asks, Matt Smith.
And before anyone ask, David Radcliffe, Emma Watson and that ginger.
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#602

Originally Posted by planar1280: View Post
@ERCboxoffice: Tim Burton's DARK SHADOWS had more bite than expected: $29,685,274
Those mothers be loving Depp.
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#603

Originally Posted by Teh Hamburglar: View Post
Malfoy is clearly trying to sell himself
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#604

Well deserved success for The Avengers / Whedon. I've been tempted to see it a third time, but haven't pulled the trigger just yet. Might just wait for when family comes in town to visit.

Also, glorious amounts of salt ITT. Quite lovely :)



Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
Yup, but there are even more like Tabor and Artist who will sling shit at anyone who has a slightly negative opinion. People like them are very vocal and are fucking loons.
I haven't that in the AVengers thread.
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#605

Originally Posted by LosDaddie: View Post
Well deserved success for The Avengers / Whedon. I've been tempted to see it a third time, but haven't pulled the trigger just yet. Might just wait for when family comes in town to visit.

Also, glorious amounts of salt ITT. Quite lovely :)





I haven't that in the AVengers thread.
It was plain to see during the first weekend it was out in the states.
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#606

Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz: View Post
It would have to average ~ $83M per week WW for 12 weeks to break 2 billion.

Around $148M per week WW for 12 weeks to tie Avatar.


Make it so.
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#607

Does anyone know exactly what properties Fox has the rights to surrounding Fantastic Four and the X-men?

Do they basically have the rights to all the ancillary FF characters and every mutant?
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#608

Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
It was plain to see during the first weekend it was out in the states.
Have you check the boxoffice and the Avengers thread before and after the movie was release? Bunch of people down playing the movie. After the movie was release, a bunch of the poster were mad salty about it breaking all these record.
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Originally Posted by Superman00: View Post
Have you check the boxoffice and the Avengers thread before and after the movie was release? Bunch of people down playing the movie. After the movie was release, a bunch of the poster were mad salty about it breaking all these record.
My favourite is still the guy who predicted domestic total for the Avengers that was under the domestic total for the Incredible Hulk. Not often you see a total box office prediction beat in 2 days.
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#610

Avengers actuals are in:

Final wknd #s for #Avengers: $103,052,274 wknd & $373,071,647 10-day cume. Just a tiny smidge below estimates.
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Originally Posted by planar1280: View Post
Avengers actuals are in:

Final wknd #s for #Avengers: $103,052,274 wknd & $373,071,647 10-day cume. Just a tiny smidge below estimates.
I take it you post on the Boxoffice.com forums.

Anyhow, I am glad to see that the Avengers managed to keep its 103M second weekend. Looking forward to see how much it drops on its second Monday.
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Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
Does anyone know exactly what properties Fox has the rights to surrounding Fantastic Four and the X-men?

Do they basically have the rights to all the ancillary FF characters and every mutant?
Here's a list, but I don't think it's very accurate. For example, Galactus isn't listed under the FF rights, even though Fox used him (sort of):

http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-...ers-carl-6766/

Feige has said that Marvel Studios can use the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but they can't mention their relation to Magneto, or that they're mutants.
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#613

Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
Does anyone know exactly what properties Fox has the rights to surrounding Fantastic Four and the X-men?

Do they basically have the rights to all the ancillary FF characters and every mutant?
Yup, they have the rights to the X-Men, Fantastic Four and Daredevil characters. As long as they make a movie every seven years they keep the rights. This includes any movies with spin off characters like Electra and what they attempted to do with Silver Surfer. One executive even said if they got desperate, they could release a straight to DVD movie and still keep the rights.
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Originally Posted by planar1280: View Post
Avengers actuals are in:

Final wknd #s for #Avengers: $103,052,274 wknd & $373,071,647 10-day cume. Just a tiny smidge below estimates.
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Originally Posted by Ignatz Mouse: View Post
Are you kidding? Do you know how many Batman toys sold after the Batman movies? Have you been down a toy aisle lately?

Avengers has huge merchandising.
You misread my post. I was making the same point that you are.

Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
Not spite. Potential. Any big studio would see Marvel properties as potentially hot stuff. Giving it up would be silly if you actually think you could one day do a good job and profit from it. The problem is always with incompetence, not willful intent to make terrible films.
But seriously, what the fuck is up with Fox? Almost all of their superhero movies are shit. It looks like they are constantly trying to undercut the success of every superhero movie they put out (except maybe X2).
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Originally Posted by kswiston: View Post
I take it you post on the Boxoffice.com forums.

Anyhow, I am glad to see that the Avengers managed to keep its 103M second weekend. Looking forward to see how much it drops on its second Monday.
if its tracking like spiderman it will do 30-40 million monday - thursday and then 51 million next weekend
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Originally Posted by planar1280: View Post
if its tracking like spiderman it will do 30-40 million monday - thursday and then 51 million next weekend
I think it will be on the lower end for the weekdays and maybe a bit higher on the weekend, but $455-460M is what I see the Avengers at by the end of next Sunday. Right in line with what you posted above.

Alright, I am getting dangerously close to overtaking Artist in total posts for this thread. I think that is my queue to stop wasting my day-off posting on GAF and to get some things done.
Last edited by kswiston; 05-14-2012 at 07:29 PM.
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#619

I think it will open with 40-45 million.

2nd behind Avengers which will have 45-55 million

3rd will be Dark Shadows with 12-15 milion
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#620

It might beat Dark Shadows.
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Originally Posted by planar1280: View Post
Avengers actuals are in:

Final wknd #s for #Avengers: $103,052,274 wknd & $373,071,647 10-day cume. Just a tiny smidge below estimates.
:( It'll only make $599,889,274 dollars now.
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#622

Originally Posted by marrec: View Post
It might beat Dark Shadows.
Well duh, a ton of transformers marks will probably go see it.

The rest of america will probably think it's just so stupid and laughable...


nah they'll all go see it.
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#623

Originally Posted by Biggest-Geek-Ever: View Post
:( It'll only make $599,889,274 dollars now.
It'll get Puerto Rico'd :P
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#624

Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz: View Post
Why is Sam always laughing his ass off in everyone of their group photos?
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Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Why is Sam always laughing his ass off in everyone of their group photos?
because WHITE PEOPLE.
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#626

Originally Posted by 3N16MA: View Post


Twelve $1 billion films.


Bat-GAF can rejoice for 1 more day :P Such a photo finish to the 1B record, they barely made their projection.
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post


Bat-GAF can rejoice for 1 more day :P Such a photo finish to the 1B record, they barely made their projection.
Well, TDK had a good run
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Next weekend we'll be in top5 territory! Exciting! :D
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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
It was plain to see during the first weekend it was out in the states.
Again, didn't see it. What I did see before the NA release was a lot of trolling by GAFers who expressed little interest in Avengers. In fact, they were the top posters in the Avengers threads.



Originally Posted by Superman00: View Post
Have you check the boxoffice and the Avengers thread before and after the movie was release? Bunch of people down playing the movie. After the movie was release, a bunch of the poster were mad salty about it breaking all these record.
Pretty much.
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Originally Posted by LosDaddie: View Post
Again, didn't see it. What I did see before the NA release was a lot of trolling by GAFers who expressed little interest in Avengers. In fact, they were the top posters in the Avengers threads.





Pretty much.
What I sad was a lot of dismissing Avengers before the WW release, and then a lot of people quite willingly and happily saying that they were wrong and that the movie rocked.

I don't see more than a couple of trolls trying to downplay the movie, and I don't think they were among the people who were lukewarm prior to release.

I was one of the ho-hum people and I said right off that I had been wrong and was happy to have been wrong.
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post
It'll get Puerto Rico'd :P
YES!

Originally Posted by artist: View Post


Bat-GAF can rejoice for 1 more day :P Such a photo finish to the 1B record, they barely made their projection.
Probably a bit of creative accounting going on there, but still, ridiculous. It tied the record for fastest to a billion and was only out in the states for 10 of those days.
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#632

Any word on what percent Whedons getting?
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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
Any word on what percent Whedons getting?
Doubt it's any, only the top tier of directors can usually negotiate a percentage of the gross. Of course there are exceptions.
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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
Any word on what percent Whedons getting?
He's getting 50% more negotiating power for Avengers 2.
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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
Any word on what percent Whedons getting?
Probably 0%. I doubt he was in a strong enough negotiating position before the movie came out to be a profit participant. If he actually did get it in his contract, then Disney would probably do the same thing that Warner Bros did with Harry Potter, and claim it lost money.
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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
Any word on what percent Whedons getting?
Fixed bonus, no percentage.
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Originally Posted by sharbhund: View Post
Probably 0%. I doubt he was in a strong enough negotiating position before the movie came out to be a profit participant. If he actually did get it in his contract, then Disney would probably do the same thing that Warner Bros did with Harry Potter, and claim it lost money.
This was done to Peter Jackson over LotR too.

And this is also how the creators of Superman were screwed out of millions in the 1940's as well.

I don't know how companies can continue to get away with this bullshit.
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Dark Shadows might end up doing well because Johnny Depp films have ridiculous legs and he is very popular overseas.
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post
Fixed bonus, no percentage.
Poor fucker.

Hope people are right about him having more weight when it comes to negotiations for 2/3.
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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
Poor fucker.

Hope people are right about him having more weight when it comes to negotiations for 2/3.
Man, I would love to be a poor fucker if that's the definition. :)
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Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
Customers don't always have a choice. Some are forced to pay the 3d tax as their local theater isn't showing it in 2d or 2d showings are so limited that trying to get tickets is pointless, so they end up paying for 3d.

I had to travel a few miles to find a 2d showing and even there the ration was 70/30 in favor of 3d. Not everyone can do the same, especially if they have kids or are in a group and just want to watch the movie.
I actually traveled 40 minutes away to see The Avengers in 2D because everywhere else in a 40 mile radius was showing it in shitacular 3D and I wanted no part of it.
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Originally Posted by Ignatz Mouse: View Post
This was done to Peter Jackson over LotR too.

And this is also how the creators of Superman were screwed out of millions in the 1940's as well.

I don't know how companies can continue to get away with this bullshit.
Corporations are protecting the rights of the most important creators of all -- job creators.

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Don't worry, Whedon will get his on Avengers 2.
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Originally Posted by artist: View Post
Fixed bonus, no percentage.
Why would be get any better than these terms? It was his SECOND film.

The fact Disney didn't sign him to a multi film sequel means that Whedon will get PAID to do the sequel.

Nolan was contracted by WB to do the first two Batman films but got a much improved deal to helm the third film.
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Originally Posted by Busty: View Post
Why would be get any better than these terms? It was his SECOND film.

The fact Disney didn't sign him to a multi film sequel means that Whedon will get PAID to do the sequel.

Nolan was contracted by WB to do the first two Batman films but got a much improved deal to helm the third film.
Feige has said that all Marvel directors have options for second films in their contracts, but they haven't exercised them for Leterrier, Branagh, or Johnston. I would be surprised if they don't pick up the option for Whedon.
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Originally Posted by Busty: View Post
Why would be get any better than these terms? It was his SECOND film.

The fact Disney didn't sign him to a multi film sequel means that Whedon will get PAID to do the sequel.

Nolan was contracted by WB to do the first two Batman films but got a much improved deal to helm the third film.
I'm fairly certain this isn't true, for the longest time after Begins came out it was unsure if Nolan would return for the sequel.
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Originally Posted by jett: View Post
I'm fairly certain this isn't true, for the longest time after Begins came out it was unsure if Nolan would return for the sequel.
Why? Considering how good BB was, why would this be in doubt?
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#648

It's worth noting that Nolan is a producer on The Dark Knight, but not on Batman Begins. So he certainly got a better deal after Begins.
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#649

Originally Posted by jett: View Post
I'm fairly certain this isn't true, for the longest time after Begins came out it was unsure if Nolan would return for the sequel.
I believe you're thinking of the gap between TDK and TDKR.

Nolan was signed to do two films when he signed to direct Batman Begins. Begins and TDK.

As soon as the TDK opened (literally days after the film was released IIRC) WB set out a deal for Nolan to do a third film.

He didn't sign right away but instead did Inception (again for WB) and then, of course, directed TDKR.
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Originally Posted by Busty: View Post
I believe you're thinking of the gap between TDK and TDKR.

Nolan was signed to do two films when he signed to direct Batman Begins. Begins and TDK.

As soon as the TDK opened (literally days after the film was released IIRC) WB set out a deal for Nolan to do a third film.

He didn't sign right away but instead did Inception (again for WB) and then, of course, directed TDKR.
You seem to be forgetting Prestige, which Nolan produced, wrote, and directed between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.