Yuripaw
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(05-14-2012, 07:21 AM)

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Originally Posted by AdawgDaFAB: View Post
You can do this? I thought that you couldn't remotely deactivate ps3s that your PSN account is active on.
You can't deactivate individual systems, but you can deactivate them all. I just did this, and after that I just activated my PS3 system that is here.
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(05-14-2012, 07:22 AM)

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Originally Posted by AdawgDaFAB: View Post
You can do this? I thought that you couldn't remotely deactivate ps3s that your PSN account is active on.
It wasn't possible before. But it is now.
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(05-14-2012, 07:22 AM)

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Originally Posted by Joni: View Post
Indeed. It is only possible to do this if someone has your Credit Card data already. I would start with checking on how PS3s your console is activated.



Do they ask that one when you're buying stuff? Can't remember they do.
When I bought on PSN with the CC-data saved to my profile, they never asked for a CVC, only the first time when you enter your CC-data.

It's just a matter of confirming the transaction and that's it. Not sure if this is the same when the transaction is made for the first time on another console though.
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(05-14-2012, 07:23 AM)

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Originally Posted by Persona7: View Post
Once you have a credit card on file (including the 3 digit security code) you do not need to verify anything to make purchases unless you have it set to input the password when you add funds.
Right but when you set up an existing account on a new system like PS3 or Vita as the hacker would have needed to, you have to verify the card details.

Originally Posted by AdawgDaFAB: View Post
You can do this? I thought that you couldn't remotely deactivate ps3s that your PSN account is active on.
You can now. For a while now actually.
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(05-14-2012, 07:32 AM)

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Originally Posted by Yuripaw: View Post
You can't deactivate individual systems, but you can deactivate them all. I just did this, and after that I just activated my PS3 system that is here.
Originally Posted by TTP: View Post
It wasn't possible before. But it is now.
Originally Posted by dallow_bg: View Post
You can now. For a while now actually.
Oh man, I didn't know about that. Thanks! I had my account shared on someone's ps3 that disappeared and I never heard from again. Now I can finally deactivate it from their system. I'll have to look into this tomorrow.
Hanmik
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(05-14-2012, 07:40 AM)

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are you sure this happened this way..? After the Sony Hack, they changed how the system works..

A friend on PSN shared a game with me. He gave me his password and I logged on to his account. But he had a Credit card tight to his account, so when I accesed his account, a screen pop up straight away telling me to enter the security digits of his card. If I did not do this the card would be removed from the account. I did not know the last four digits, so I did not type in anyhting. And the card was removed. I told him that his card was removed once I finished downloading the game..

So for me to acces his account AND use his credit card I had to know 3 things.
- His email (tied to his PSN account)
- His password (for the PSN account)
- the security digits for his credit card.

but again this was in Europe.. maybe it is different in other parts of the world..
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(05-14-2012, 09:24 AM)

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Originally Posted by Persona7: View Post
Once you have a credit card on file (including the 3 digit security code) you do not need to verify anything to make purchases unless you have it set to input the password when you add funds.
Your CC is tied to console and account. If it is on your account, but not on your console; you shouldn't have access to your CC.

Originally Posted by AdawgDaFAB: View Post
You can do this? I thought that you couldn't remotely deactivate ps3s that your PSN account is active on.
The site for it launched a year ago or something.

Originally Posted by Cisce: View Post
You can actually skip the verification process when activating on a PS3, but I believe you'll need to do it then when purchasing something. How do I know this? I got a new PS3 when coming over here recently and I was able to skip the verification. Unless it's different on UK accounts of course.
Actually, when you first log into your PSN account on a new system; it immediately demands you to enter your CC. You won't be able to enter the Store before getting this question.

Originally Posted by StevePharma: View Post
When I bought on PSN with the CC-data saved to my profile, they never asked for a CVC, only the first time when you enter your CC-data.
Thought so already. Thanks for the confirmation.



Originally Posted by Hanmik: View Post
are you sure this happened this way..? After the Sony Hack, they changed how the system works..

A friend on PSN shared a game with me. He gave me his password and I logged on to his account. But he had a Credit card tight to his account, so when I accesed his account, a screen pop up straight away telling me to enter the security digits of his card. If I did not do this the card would be removed from the account. I did not know the last four digits, so I did not type in anyhting. And the card was removed. I told him that his card was removed once I finished downloading the game..

So for me to acces his account AND use his credit card I had to know 3 things.
- His email (tied to his PSN account)
- His password (for the PSN account)
- the security digits for his credit card.

but again this was in Europe.. maybe it is different in other parts of the world..
I believe it even worked like that before the hack, but I'm not sure. But yes, this is my experience too.
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hope everything works out for the best buddy :/

and yeah, run a virus/keylogger/malware check on the PC.
blitzcloud
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well honestly it's probably pretty dumb to do this on PS3. I mean, they can see the console ID, the main account associated and pretty much screw him well. So props to him, whoever he is, for a dumb move.
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(05-14-2012, 10:23 AM)

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Originally Posted by Hanmik: View Post
are you sure this happened this way..? After the Sony Hack, they changed how the system works..

A friend on PSN shared a game with me. He gave me his password and I logged on to his account. But he had a Credit card tight to his account, so when I accesed his account, a screen pop up straight away telling me to enter the security digits of his card. If I did not do this the card would be removed from the account. I did not know the last four digits, so I did not type in anyhting. And the card was removed. I told him that his card was removed once I finished downloading the game..

So for me to acces his account AND use his credit card I had to know 3 things.
- His email (tied to his PSN account)
- His password (for the PSN account)
- the security digits for his credit card.

but again this was in Europe.. maybe it is different in other parts of the world..
yep if you gameshare after the hack and don't know the security digits, the credit card get removed from the account ... i did this plenty of times since i h&ve 2 PS3
demigod
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(05-14-2012, 10:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Yuripaw: View Post
I don't think it asks for the 3 digit code, but the last 4 digits of the card...not sure, maybe he managed to log in on the website first and looked at my account info? last 4 digits of the code are not usually kept private.

but yeah, this is concerning me as well. The only possibility I can think if it wasn't a straight up account hack is if someway he was able to access my account on an old system I once sold a few months ago to gamestop when I did that $225 credit trade in deal they had. I formatted the hard drive personally before I sold it though, and none of my profiles were left on the system.

Looks like you didn't do a good job of formatting it!
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(05-14-2012, 11:27 AM)

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Speedymaniac will be in here blaming Sony and EA soon, no doubt.

I will just echo what others have said: change your passwords, and probably cancel your CC and get the bank to re-issue a new one.
Yuripaw
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(05-14-2012, 08:19 PM)

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Originally Posted by RandomVince: View Post
Speedymaniac will be in here blaming Sony and EA soon, no doubt.

I will just echo what others have said: change your passwords, and probably cancel your CC and get the bank to re-issue a new one.
Already all done and taken care of. The wheels are in motion with my bank. I'm just bummed as hell, because until this blows over, I don't have the funds available to pick up Diablo 3 anymore :(
Persona7
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Have Credit Cards always been tied to a console? When I got my Slim PS3 right after it came out and I transferred everything over I was still able to access my card tied to the account without verifying anything except my account password.

That was a long time ago though.
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Originally Posted by Persona7: View Post
Have Credit Cards always been tied to a console? When I got my Slim PS3 right after it came out and I transferred everything over I was still able to access my card tied to the account without verifying anything except my account password.

That was a long time ago though.
I think that's just because you used the transfer utility. You can't do that without complete access to the original machine.
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Originally Posted by RandomVince: View Post
Speedymaniac will be in here blaming Sony and EA soon, no doubt.

I will just echo what others have said: change your passwords, and probably cancel your CC and get the bank to re-issue a new one.
If the OP's story is legit, I don't blame anyone but I do find something a little suspect.

Sony, for all its faults has a decent set up in that it doesn't store security codes on the network, it's stored locally, so I don't understand how the OP had his CC charged.
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Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
If the OP's story is legit, I don't blame anyone but I do find something a little suspect.

Sony, for all its faults has a decent set up in that it doesn't store security codes on the network, it's stored locally, so I don't understand how the OP had his CC charged.
I dont really understand it either as I thought that you couldnt use someones CC on a different machine without verifying the security code.

The only way I can think of is that they had his CC#, security code and his PSN login credentials.
Yuripaw
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(05-14-2012, 08:42 PM)

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Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
If the OP's story is legit, I don't blame anyone but I do find something a little suspect.

Sony, for all its faults has a decent set up in that it doesn't store security codes on the network, it's stored locally, so I don't understand how the OP had his CC charged.
I honestly don't understand it either, I have not had this CC that long, it was just renewed a few months ago. If it wasn't a straight up account hack, and maybe I was just sloppy when I've sold/traded PS3s before, then this could just be my fault. It is true that this is not the only PS3 I've owned, so I've sold ones I've had before that may have had account information of mine already stored on them...but I've always formatted the drive, and I've changed my password enough times that any old systems I've owned should not have had my info still on it. I've always deleted my profiles, and made sure so that they were wiped clean.
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Originally Posted by Salaadin: View Post
I dont really understand it either as I thought that you couldnt use someones CC on a different machine without verifying the security code.

The only way I can think of is that they had his CC#, security code and his PSN login credentials.
Yup, I can confirm this as I once shared my account with a friend and he tried to buy something but the lack of code prevented him from doing so.

If whoever compromised his account had all those details, I'd recommend doing a credit check ASAP. Who knows what the hell else they've been up to.

I don't want to frighten the OP, but security codes aren't stored on the network, unless Sony changed this requirement in the past year, so there's something off about this.
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Originally Posted by Pachterballs: View Post
is your password password?

time to get 1password and let it generate you a monster of a password.

https://agilebits.com/onepassword
There's really no point in that site.

Write your passwords on a piece of paper and keep them somewhere safe.
The chances of someone breaking into your house and stealing your email password over your TV is much more slim than someone hacking shared password accounts online.
Persona7
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Originally Posted by Zoe: View Post
I think that's just because you used the transfer utility. You can't do that without complete access to the original machine.
Ok, that makes sense.
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(05-14-2012, 08:49 PM)

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Originally Posted by Yuripaw: View Post
I honestly don't understand it either, I have not had this CC that long, it was just renewed a few months ago. If it wasn't a straight up account hack, and maybe I was just sloppy when I've sold/traded PS3s before, then this could just be my fault. It is true that this is not the only PS3 I've owned, so I've sold ones I've had before that may have had account information of mine already stored on them...but I've always formatted the drive, and I've changed my password enough times that any old systems I've owned should not have had my info still on it. I've always deleted my profiles, and made sure so that they were wiped clean.
Even if you did leave your details on an old PS3, they wouldn't be able to gain access to your CC details until they had your password and I'm almost positive the PS3 doesn't display the three digit security code or your CC details in their entirety. (but I may be wrong about the latter)

But that doesn't matter anyway, it's a recent card...so that just adds to the bafflement.

There's something really suspect about this, I don't want to alarm you but you should probably get a credit check done.
out0v0rder
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unrelated i guess but this one time i thought my account got hacked on xbox and ps3 but it turns it was just my nephew i spanked him now hes older and bigger than me
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(05-14-2012, 08:59 PM)

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I recommend you to watch in how many systems is your account active:
https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com
You can de-active all systems every six month from here, then you will recover donwloading gaming times.
Here you can manage your passwords, billing options, and so...




- Is very confortable to delete your credit card once you have ended your purchase attempts.
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Yuripaw wins! Sucks to hear, i guess maybe they brute forced their way into your account unless you used the same pw elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Sylver: View Post
I recommend you to watch in how many systems is your account active:
https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com
You can de-active all systems every six month from here, then you will recover donwloading gaming times.
Here you can manage your passwords, billing options, and so...




- Is very confortable to delete your credit card once you have ended your purchase attempts.
I just went to this site but it won't let me deactivate my old 60g PS3 I no longer have. Video was activated on the old 60g but when I replaced that with a slim and tried to download a movie trailer recently it said video had already been activated on a system.
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(05-14-2012, 10:16 PM)

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Originally Posted by purple cobra: View Post
I just went to this site but it won't let me deactivate my old 60g PS3 I no longer have. Video was activated on the old 60g but when I replaced that with a slim and tried to download a movie trailer recently it said video had already been activated on a system.
Call Sony, had the same problem got a "1 Time goodwill" of deactivating it for me.
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Originally Posted by xKilltheMx: View Post
Call Sony, had the same problem got a "1 Time goodwill" of deactivating it for me.
Will do that, thanks.
Sylver
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(05-15-2012, 05:01 PM)

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Originally Posted by purple cobra: View Post
Will do that, thanks.
Oh that Video/Music activation only can be de-activated via Sony call service (if you don't have the activated device).
They are used to this issue, they gonna ask you what's your email account and in less than one minute your account will be de-activated.
That's a shitty problem cause Unlimited Music trial from PS+ members sony gave time ago makes your account Music active once you active Game device forever.
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