[EvilDick34]

Do people consider this an issue? Has anyone not purchased one due to prop memory cards? It seems like a really minor issue to me, they are not really that expensive.

It is a huge deal to me and others. I work retail and when i explain to JoeSchmoe or a Mom that they need one of these cards and i tell them that 4gb ones won't cut it, they throw a fit quite a lot.

[kittens]

You know, there's a point at which something is just unpopular, and nothing will "save" it.

Like the 3DS before price drop, SM3DL, and MK7?

[AceBandage]

Like the 3DS before price drop, SM3DL, and MK7?

The 3DS wasn't doing 6K a week in Japan...

[jonno394]

Do people really think COD will have cross platform play? I just don't think they'll be able to get exactly the same engine running on the Vita and PS3 for it to be compatible, but that's based on absolutely nothing at all.

[BrainZEROX]

You know, there's a point at which something is just unpopular, and nothing will "save" it.

Yes. Hence the "try" in the "try and save the Vita" title ;o)

[Derrick01]

What's this? The vita needs saving now? o_0

Pretty sure it hasn't even broke 2 million sold yet and that's including japan's head start.

[aeolist]

Do people really think COD will have cross platform play? I just don't think they'll be able to get exactly the same engine running on the Vita and PS3 for it to be compatible, but that's based on absolutely nothing at all.

They got the engine running on Wii, Vita shouldn't be a big issue

The question is whether anyone will care

[Kazuma Kiryu]

1- more games
2- 30 dollars maximum price for any piece of software released on the thing
3- more games
4- price drop
5- the ps3/vita crossplay is nice, but don't make people buy the same game twice. sell both for $50 or $60, problem solved.

[AgentChris]

I'm expecting a couple of R* PSV titles, COD and price drop.

[GraveRobberX]

Also you can't just say Price Cut and the tidal wave of moolah will come crashing in

You need to price cut, but then bombard the ever living shit out of the system with content galore

I mean sales, freebees, anything to keep the player tied/enticed to your system
You can't go VITA is $180!, then have nothing to back it up with, most will just go I'll wait till more games are released and it'll be $149.99 then

Also games that have cross play should become a necessity
As much as Sony love to dole out the "Playstation Family" line, they should make it the focal point

Buy Sly Cooper 4 Limited Combo Edition, get Sly 4 PS3 + Sly 4 Vita + avatar/theme/dlc? for only $69.99-$79.99
LCE would be steel case, both the disc/cartridge would be in that case (saves some money right there)
Just keep doing those LCE copies, third parties would follow in droves
Capcom, Ubisoft, Activision would follow real quickly to grab extra cash
Separately it would be $59.99 + $39.99

[EvilDick34]

They got the engine running on Wii, Vita shouldn't be a big issue The question is whether anyone will care

I don't think people will care that COD comes out on Vita. Obviously it will sell but i don't think it gives the Vita what it needs.

[Henry Jones Jr]

Sony has a weird track record when it comes to saving failing hardware. They did pretty well pulling the PS3 out of the dumps after $599. But they sent PlayStation Move out to die and never once tried to revive it, same with the PSPgo. Even with the original PSP, they pretty much gave up on it in the West in the past few years.

[Nerfgun]

They just gotta put their shoulder into it like they did with the PS3. It had a lot more baggage but it turned out ok in the end.

But they sent PlayStation Move out to die

We just got like 3 Move games this month. Besides they didn't have exactly a huge investment in developing / marketing Move. I doubt it actually lost money.

[we.are.the.armada]

Final Fantasy Type-0 Vita Edit: Well this + a few more big game announcements + a price cut

This. So hard.

And PS1 playability or at least a dent in the task.

[AceBandage]

They just gotta put their shoulder into it like they did with the PS3. It had a lot more baggage but it turned out ok in the end.

The problem with this line of thought is two fold:

1. The Vita's biggest potential market is in Japan. Where Sony has basically no first parties any more (they have a few studios, but they don't exactly put out a lot huge games). While the PS3's biggest potential market was in the West, where Sony spent million ramping up their development studios.

2. The PS3 was helped by third party need to make games multiplatform. So even with Sony failing, they got a good amount of support. This is not looking to be the case with the Vita at all.

[Dimorphic]

The problem the Vita currently faces (at least in Australia where I am) is that hardly anyone knows it exists outside of core gamers. It had a somewhat decent marketing push on release but since then, nada.

[Nerfgun]

The problem with this line of thought is two fold: 1. The Vita's biggest potential market is in Japan. Where Sony has basically no first parties any more (they have a few small studios, but they don't exactly put out huge games). While the PS3's biggest potential market was in the West, where Sony spent million ramping up their development studios. 2. The PS3 was helped by third party need to make games multiplatform. So even with Sony failing, they got a good amount of support. This is not looking to be the case with the Vita at all.

1. Sony has a massive 1st party system. No one complains when Nintendo does it all themselves.

2. I think it can still happen, we shall agree to disagree.

[AceBandage]

1. Sony has a massive 1st party system. No one complains when Nintendo does it all themselves. 2. I think it can still happen, we shall agree to disagree.

Yes, and I don't disagree with the bolded. However, my contention was that it's studios aimed at the Western market. Which is not going to help the Vita a whole lot.

[GraveRobberX]

For GAF and us core/hardcore users, PS1 games sound amazing to have on the go

To the regular public at large it's not an amazing bullet-point to own one
Most who want PS1 are people who already own a VITA, and bought it in due to the PS1 content usability/availability

Most want there content to be present, not 15 years from the past
If you showed off your VITA would you show off FFVI or Rayman Origins to someone trying to buy a VITA
It's a nice addition but nothing amazing about PS1 to the public at large

[Dimorphic]

For GAF and us core/hardcore users, PS1 games sound amazing to have on the go To the regular public at large it's not an amazing bullet-point to own one Most who want PS1 are people who already own a VITA, and bought it in due to the PS1 content usability/availability Most want there content to be present, not 15 years from the past If you showed off your VITA would you show off FFVI or Rayman Origins to someone trying to buy a VITA It's a nice addition but nothing amazing about PS1 to the public at large

It depends how Sony market it. I could easily see a "history of the Playstation" marketing campaign rolled out if we get PSOne and PS2 compatibility. That would appeal to the general public imo.

[Byakuya769]

It depends how Sony market it. I could easily see a "history of the Playstation" marketing campaign rolled out if we get PSOne and PS2 compatibility. That would appeal to the general public imo.

Nope. Poster above is correct. No one but "gamers" give a shit about old games.

[7threst]

For GAF and us core/hardcore users, PS1 games sound amazing to have on the go To the regular public at large it's not an amazing bullet-point to own one Most who want PS1 are people who already own a VITA, and bought it in due to the PS1 content usability/availability Most want there content to be present, not 15 years from the past If you showed off your VITA would you show off FFVI or Rayman Origins to someone trying to buy a VITA It's a nice addition but nothing amazing about PS1 to the public at large

Sure, but it could help selling it to the (small) hardcore crowd who do want it, especially when it shouldn't be that hard to get PS1 games running on Vita. Then it's just one more selling point for Sony, no matter how minor that point is. Unless I'm mistaken and it's actually pretty hard to get PS1 games running on Vita.

[Guileless]

Any buzz on Madden?if it's as well received as FIFA, I would get a Vita if there was a price drop and you could buy a bundle of the PS3 and Vita versions together with a discount.

[BrainZEROX]

The problem with this line of thought is two fold: 1. The Vita's biggest potential market is in Japan. Where Sony has basically no first parties any more (they have a few studios, but they don't exactly put out a lot huge games). While the PS3's biggest potential market was in the West, where Sony spent million ramping up their development studios. 2. The PS3 was helped by third party need to make games multiplatform. So even with Sony failing, they got a good amount of support. This is not looking to be the case with the Vita at all.

Quite sad but you're right. And it was already applicable to the PSP. What saved it didn't came from Sony but from Capcom, a 3rd party studio. When Nintendo can save its hardware with the strength of its own licences, Sony just can't. They have to cross fingers a 3rd party partner cracks the nut for them and it may not happen this time.

[Lonely1]

What will "save them" is different than what I want them to show and what they will show. :(

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

i don't think casuals can tell the difference between a $1 game and a $50 game anymore... its all the same to them.

You don't actually believe this, do you? How do you explain the success of casual Nintendo software this generation?

Just because Sony doesn't know how to make a sellable casual game doesn't mean that every casual gamer is as dumb as a rock.

[Lonely1]

You don't actually believe this, do you? How do you explain the success of casual Nintendo software this generation?

Perhaps not $1 games, but even here on GAF we have some people who claim (or suggest) that MC3 is indistinguishable from MW3. :P

[Sushen]

COD for Vita. Cross-platform. 8GB card included in all PS Vita sold. Problem Solved.

Why would Activision spend money making a version for a platform with a tiny userbase? Probably, Sony can sponsor this, I guess.

Plus, I don't think Final Fantasy is a magic word anymore. FF13-2 is at $20 at Fry's this week...

[Zulithe]

Based on the games we already know are coming out, and (hopefully) a few more big game announcements at this year's E3, I really don't think the Vita will need saving. The game lineup speaks for itself.

Buy a Vita and fall in love like a lot of GAFers already have :)

Things that personally would get me excited:
* FF Type 0 (obviously) in any form, as long as I can play it on my Vita
* more rpgs, period
* I'd do backflips if i could finally play FF7CC and/or Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep on my Vita. They need to get things in order for this to happen. Since when has Disney not wanted money? And EASY money at that.
* price drop or bundle to entice fence sitters
* no more $49.99 games unless they really, really deserve it. I don't feel Uncharted was worth that.

[Ezalc]

They'll try but in my eyes they'll probably fail. There's just absolutely nothing on the system that I care for right now. It'd be an interesting surprise to see that turned around. I'd also expect for Final Fantasy Type 0 to be announced for Vita, just seems odd that they haven't mentioned much of a western release besides yes we're doing it.

[Atolm]

Needs more games. Put the FFV&VI remakes there, a MonHun, maybe some Tales of/SMT stuff and it will sell. Right now, the library is piss-poor.

[AceBandage]

Based on the games we already know are coming out, and (hopefully) a few more big game announcements at this year's E3, I really don't think the Vita will need saving. The game lineup speaks for itself. Buy a Vita and fall in love like a lot of GAFers already have :) Things that personally would get me excited: * FF Type 0 (obviously) in any form, as long as I can play it on my Vita * more rpgs, period * I'd do backflips if i could finally play FF7CC and/or Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep on my Vita. They need to get things in order for this to happen. Since when has Disney not wanted money? And EASY money at that. * price drop or bundle to entice fence sitters * no more $49.99 games unless they really, really deserve it. I don't feel Uncharted was worth that.

Look, no one is saying the Vita doesn't have some good games out and coming.
However, the numbers speak for themselves, as well. It's tanking. Badly. And this isn't "Oh the 3DS isn't living up to its predecessor" tanking. This is "going to sell less than the GameCube if Sony doesn't do something" tanking.

[Lonely1]

Look, no one is saying the Vita doesn't have some good games out and coming. However, the numbers speak for themselves, as well. It's tanking. Badly. And this isn't "Oh the 3DS isn't living up to its predecessor" tanking. This is "going to sell less than the Saturn if Sony doesn't do something" tanking.

Fixed.

[Tiktaalik]

Its an easy prediction to make that Sony will go all out and show ton of stuff for the Vita. I'm expecting a long sizzle reel featuring pretty much every IP they have along with a large helping of established IPs from the major 3rd parties

[Giant Panda]

Vita needs less PS3 ports and more exclusive handheld content.

[opticalmace]

$199 including (small) memory card, PS1 support, new games announced. I think that would go a long way.

[MercuryLS]

This thing is dead but doesn't know it yet unless Sony does the following:

1) Price cut

2) Focus on cheaper downloadable and boxed content that is more casual in nature

I'm sorry but I don't see something like COD saving the platform when people can just buyt it for a home console where it is better suited. You guys are crazy to think someone will pay $350 (game + mem card) to play this on the go.

Sony is chasing a market that doesn't exist anymore. High end portables with expensive, premium games is a dead market. Vita will be its tombstone.

[kittens]

The 3DS wasn't doing 6K a week in Japan...

Holy shit, is it really that low? Wow. That's terrible. :-O

[BibiMaghoo]

For a lot of people, it is a massive issue. Especially as Nintendo supply a 2GB SD card with every 3DS.

It is a huge deal to me and others. I work retail and when i explain to JoeSchmoe or a Mom that they need one of these cards and i tell them that 4gb ones won't cut it, they throw a fit quite a lot.

Fair enough then, it just seems to me as a minor inconvenience rather than a reason not to buy a system.

Yes, you do need to buy one, but they are not that expensive.

Then again I can see many gamers having a vast library of downloadable games, and in this case I can see why it may be a problem.

[Tiktaalik]

Don't forget about Playstation Suite, which has been in open beta for a while now. I'd be surprised if Sony didn't have a moment in their conference when they bring up some small indie iOS developer to talk about the platform. You know the usual, "It only took one guy on our team a week to port Puzzle Jump Turbo EX to the PSVita thanks to the great set of developer tools blahblah."

[KageMaru]

It's a safe bet that Sony will put a major focus on PSV this E3. I just don't think they can afford a price drop just yet. So hopefully they reveal the right software to push sales.

Why would Activision spend money making a version for a platform with a tiny userbase? Probably, Sony can sponsor this, I guess.

I thought a CoD title was already announced for the handheld, no?

[Count Dookkake]

Can you use Home on the Vita? Maybe that would help.

[semiconscious]

Theres really no excuse as to why PS1 games aren't playable on Vita at the moment so I expect they will announce a date for that. Or I hope they do anyway.

yep...

Final Fantasy Type-0 Vita

& yep...

[cyborg009]

Holy shit, is it really that low? Wow. That's terrible. :-O

yep but you know the 3DS had a market to itself for nearly a year, so sony has a lot to catch up

[toleoring]

universal remote play function for ps3 games

[jett]

If there's no massive price drop there is absolutely nothing Sony can do to salvage this bomb.

Even with a price drop I have my doubts, there's just no support for this thing.

[P90]

They better announce a price drop for this Summer season or they will be in even deeper shit when Xmas rolls in.

This.

[Chesskid1]

i see sony having a slide/announcement with


the PS1 SUPPORT UPDATE FOR VITA IS LIVE NOW!! TURN ON YOUR VITA NOW AND DOWNLOAD PS1 GAMES!!


like it's some huge revelation they got it working on vita, when they should have had it months, ago, lol.

[impact]

Can you use Home on the Vita? Maybe that would help.

what?

[B.O.O.M]

The 3DS wasn't doing 6K a week in Japan...

It didn't have another contender from the new gen either. A contender whose previous console sold the second largest in gaming history.
This is a point people tend to ignore or forget. When the 3ds came out, it sold horribly despite not having a direct competition.


ps: OT: They just need more games. I personally think they have done a great job so far (remember people, this is still just few months since launch!) I think Type-0 is a given and with that, Persona, Sly, ZOE HD and Ragnarok, my fall gaming line up is set