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(05-18-2012, 07:05 AM)
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#301
Episode 6
At first I thought they were spoofing Ungo with that initial transformation, but it turns out he can be anyone. I don't get how he was in 2 places at once though, That was a cool episode, less Omigawa too.
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(05-18-2012, 09:39 AM)
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#304
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(05-18-2012, 10:54 AM)
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#305
The series is pretty great right now. I enjoyed every episode. Even the here hated episode. My standards are low I know. The Nirvash looks more like the original Nirvash which I totally like. (Unfortunately I still prefer the original look of it.)
Pretty excited to see what Bones is trying to do with Eureka, Naru and Truth. I hope it will not be awful. I hope it will not be bad. |
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(05-18-2012, 11:43 AM)
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#306
Thus far, the show has been entertaining and since episode 6, I feel that the storyline is taking a turn for the better. Although to be frank, when I started watching the beginning of that episode, I thought I had accidently selected a different anime!
I like how it has a spine and is not afraid of going to certain places you'd not expect of a E7 sequel, even if those places aren't maybe that good or if certain elements are out of place. But this is the start of a new show. E7 had tons of weird irrelevant/relevant stuff in the beginning as well. E7:AO gives me the vibe that they're trying to do something different with the IP and something that can stand on its own. The one thing that I am missing is variation in the music. The music is very good, but they re-use couple of songs a bit more often than I would expect from a E7 sequel. AO has most of the richness of E7, but thus far it lacks a bit on the musical side. |
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(05-18-2012, 12:24 PM)
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#307
It's interesting that they're only going for 24 episodes this time around. I wonder if it's a creative choice, or a budget thing.
Do you guys think this might be the last we see of the IP for a while? Or is the lower episode count a sign that we might be getting multiple seasons, or a couple of different shorter series? Probably too early to tell, I guess. |
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-18-2012, 02:51 PM)
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#308
http://eurekaao-prj.net/?p=917
http://eurekaao-prj.net/?p=601 OST1 cover: ![]() Sample pages from the BD/DVD Vol1 booklet: ![]() ![]() ![]() Character designs by Kenichi Yoshida: Ao, Naru, Gazelle, Noah Character designs by Hiroyuki Oda: Fleur, Elena |
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(05-18-2012, 02:59 PM)
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#309
I had the same feeling when I started the episode. Hope they explain it all next episode.
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to reduce lag compensation (05-18-2012, 03:20 PM)
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Eureka Seven AO Episode 6
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Also I guess Ao won't get any sleep till halfway through the series. Again this attention to detail is rather remarkable. Someone has been keeping a detailed entry of timing of events and taking into account realistic things such as sleep. The fact that Ao is completely burnt is a very nice humanistic touch. Here's the thing with Truth, my first instinct is that he/she/it is a human-form Coralian. They were the only people in the original series that morphed their bodies at all and potentially could have destructive abilities like that(as general Coralians could wreck stuff with their anti-matter beams). Truth also has amnesia similar to other human-forms. The thing though is that Truth flashes back to when Eureka disappeared into the Scub Burst which leaves only three viable options; he is Eureka himself and got a case of amnesia(the perspective is wrong in the scene but that might have been intentional so it's not too obvious), some random person who got powers similar to what happened to Naru, or a human-form Coralian that came in on the wave that Eureka left on. If he is a human-form then it is possible that Secrets are early stage human-forms as well. Another interesting thing of note is how Truth was able to pilot an IFO despite the earlier comment that only kids could pilot them. I also like Truth's 'natural' VA, it's deeper than what I was expecting. The core of this show is that of a mystery show unlike Eureka 7's which was that of a romance. It does seem like whoever is writing this knows what they're doing as I thought the politics would just be a throwaway part of the storyline attached only to Okinawa and instead it might be a part of the bigger picture. The show also looks less MOTW than I thought it was going to be but we'll see how that turns out.
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-18-2012, 03:44 PM)
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#311
I'm going to make a terrible speculation about E7AO again. Yup, it's one of those horrible theories which I hope is totally wrong!
The appearance of "Truth" definitely indicates there is something "wrong" about the entire world. Not only is it wrong, but it seems Truth can exploit the layers of reality. He can assume any appearance, appear anywhere at will, and he can simply will things to be destroyed. The rules of physics don't seem to apply to him either. This is starting to give more support into my VR simulation fear! Matrix Seven AO here we come! :D |
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(05-18-2012, 04:14 PM)
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#312
Eureka Seven AO 6
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Some blood shed here and a "Merry-Go-Round Secret there. I can without a doubt say that the show is prepared to put in more "straight-faced" elements besides "Racism and discrimination is bad." The recently perceived antagonist will perhaps add some textbook words and ideals of their own but not before blowing shit up ! Stanley's face still gets cringes out of me. He reminds me of one of the human figures they'd mock on Looney Tunes.
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(05-18-2012, 11:43 PM)
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#315
Id wager Yoshida too
As far as Episodes 5 and 6, I just don't understand why one of the girl pilots has to be so young. The character on its own, I dont hate, episode 6 made sure of that, and the VA is good, but still, its just another little thing in the list of things that are bugging me.
Last edited by Dead; 05-18-2012 at 11:46 PM.
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-19-2012, 12:52 AM)
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#316
Yoshida tweeted about Truth's appearance in ep6 on Twitter, so either he's helping promote the major beats of the show, or he designed that character. Most likely both.
As for mech designs... - Shoji Kawamori did the base design for the new Nirvash - Shiho Takeuchi did the animation designs for Nirvash - Kimitoshi Yamane designed the Triton, while Shiho Takeuchi designed the bridge for it. They probably did Medon too since it looks the same. :P - Takayuki Yanase designed the three Team Goldilocks mechs, I think he designed the two Team Pied Piper ones too but I can't find confirmation right now. - Takayuki Yanase also designed Ao and Gazelle's FPs in ep1, and the Okinawan battleship. - Shiho Takeuchi and Shingo Takeba designed the other varieties of FPs all over the island. - Kanetake Ebikawa designed the US IFO Eisenhower, and the cockpit designs for the various IFOs. |
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to reduce lag compensation (05-19-2012, 01:22 AM)
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#317
Mech-wise, nothing has impressed me except for the cockpit of the Nirvash(I really like it as it feels futuristic but extremely functional especially with the movement trackers). None of the mechs except the Nirvash are really distinguishable compared to say the Devilfish or the END. |
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(05-19-2012, 02:57 AM)
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#319
So I just came across an episode 51 of Eureka Seven that aired a little while back (right before AO began). What the hell did I just watch?
I'd heard it was a summary episode that dropped a couple hints about AO, but having just watched it, it seems like they've created a whole new alternate ending. Maybe something's just getting lost in translation. Which ending does AO take as canon? Episode 50, or 51? It's sort of odd to be worrying about whether or not a sequel is treating its predecessor as canon. Nice move, Bones. |
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-19-2012, 03:25 AM)
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#320
I've never watched New Order, and I'm honestly not that interested. I've heard about it for years though, since it was originally a stage event at one of the Aniplex festival events. It was originally scripted to be performed by the voice cast on stage, and act as a sort of pseudo-epilogue to the series for fans attending the event. No one has ever said whether it is actually canon or not.
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place a shoe on my head
to reduce lag compensation (05-19-2012, 04:12 AM)
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#321
You should probably give it a listen as the VAs do a pretty spectacular job in it. |
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(05-19-2012, 03:48 PM)
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#323
Weird of Bones to air it in full right before AO premiered..it's bound to cause confusion, even if the fans wanted it. |
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(05-19-2012, 11:06 PM)
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#324
Eureka seven: AO 05-06
So many subtleties, so many hints. Bruno acting like Charles with that hug threw me for an unexpected loop. Everything seems to be getting to place, its maddening, and I hope they do something. I still have my worries. Eureka Seven does its best work before and after air battles. When the characters are grounded(literally), everything seems to mesh poorly. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see the Goldilocks team being injured or killed. I was surprised it happened the episode after they were introduced. I can't help but think what Bruno said will play an important role in Ao's psyche. As for the character "Truth"? I don't know, I can agree that he is probably a Human-form Corallian, displaced like Eureka and AO are/were. Oh, and it only took 4 episodes for everyone to forget about Naru.
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place a shoe on my head
to reduce lag compensation (05-20-2012, 05:41 AM)
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#326
I'm really starting to wonder whether she is the actual romance lead and it's not Fleur. Yes she was designed by Yoshida and is featured all over the place in regards to the show but she has no tangible purpose in any of the plot lines. I'm expecting them to eventually write/reduce her out of the OP and add in Fleur in her place.
My guess is that it was just a way to drum up interest and they really didn't think of the confusion, especially when we don't know how the sequel ties to the original. Only the hardcore fans would really be interested in it but I think they screwed up in not making it clear what it is. I mean New Order would explain why Renton is away from Eureka but I very much doubt they would make New Order canon. |
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(05-20-2012, 04:00 PM)
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#327
1) People love the original ending, don't they? I do. 2) The existence of Ao means that Eureka and Renton must have been together for at least 7 years or so after the original series ended. Astral Ocean is 20 years later, and Ao is only 13 or 14. That timeline's more consistent with episode 50. 3) In episode 1, and the newest version of Astral Ocean's opening, Eureka is wearing Diane's clothes, which is consistent with Yoshida's artwork that aired at the end of the original series' broadcast.
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-20-2012, 04:04 PM)
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#328
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DIXI QUID QUID BEAR BEAR (05-20-2012, 06:55 PM)
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#329
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to reduce lag compensation (05-20-2012, 07:03 PM)
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#330
Not to mention, part of the interest in watching a romance show is seeing the romance develop.
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-21-2012, 12:21 AM)
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(05-21-2012, 12:29 AM)
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#333
It's a late night anime, so ratings don't matter all that much, it's all about BD/DVD sales. BD/DVD sales are pretty good right now, the preorders are very high right now. I also think it has already been licensed here in the West.
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-21-2012, 01:08 AM)
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#334
The preorders look promising, but it's way too early to say that the sales are good because the first volume hasn't even been released!
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(05-24-2012, 03:17 AM)
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#335
Also, I was just reading through the original Eureka Seven OT. I had no idea people on GAF loved it so much. Must have really sucked waiting so long for a follow-up series. I felt everyone's pain as the dates on the posts went from 2006, to 2007, to 2008..etc.
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(05-24-2012, 03:44 AM)
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#336
The original series was a Sunday 7am timeslot series, meaning there was an expectation that it would skew extremely young and focus more on marketing to kids than anything else (and you can kind of see the seeds of that in the very beginning of the show, and then see that stuff be almost completely and utterly abandoned within the first dozen episodes). In the end, the success of the show suffered because, one, as it went on, the violence ratcheted up big time, and atmospherically and thematically it just wasn't what you expect out a 7am timeslot show, nevermind that it was more focused on world building than it was on introducing new robots every episode in order to sell model kits/toys. And two, it not only didn't appeal to the ultra young demo, it also wasn't something that was ultra otaku-centric at all I think, aside from being in the giant robot genre. The radical visual changes to the characters like Eureka received a lot of derision from people online at the time IIRC as well. I think that the show as it is is something that can in no way be produced in the current times. It worth noting that after Eureka Seven, Bandai Visual pretty much never again worked with BONES aside from Sword of the Stranger, and now E7:AO, despite originally being a regular producing partner with them.
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(05-24-2012, 06:16 AM)
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#337
Episode 6
I dunno, I feel like the impact that Bruno's death was supposed to have on Chloe and the rest and the lesson Ao was meant to learn from it would've worked better had I known more about or cared for the character in any meaningful way whatsoever. Having a grand total of like five minutes of screentime was definitely not conducive to that. As it stands, whenever they talk about him I just sort of have to take their word for it. Truth seems just a tad overpowered to me. |
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(05-24-2012, 06:18 AM)
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-25-2012, 08:11 AM)
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#342
Episode 7
Not really that much to talk about, since the entire episode was mostly action + setup for stuff which they won't explain for a while. It was pretty interesting, and at least we FINALLY got a Muraki Circus action scene... even though it wasn't really "real" lol. The only disappointing thing is that the design for the random extras in the Generation Bleu base are pretty bad, like all extra designs in the show. They look like they popped out of some bad generic anime. As for the plot it's obvious that Truth is from "outside" of this world, and related to the Scub Coral in some way. It also seems likely that there is in fact something very suspicious about the reality of the entire world, seeing how Truth can completely manipulate it across reality, visions, and dreams, with no regard for time or space. That static sound they worked into his theme music also seems to indicate that he's a sort of noise or interference, which plays into the simulation theory. Sucks for Ao though, only 7 episodes in and he already got NTR'd!!! :D |
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(05-25-2012, 08:26 AM)
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#345
Are you familiar with Half-Life: Full life consequences ?
Kind of do hope you're right with the reality thing we're nearing the half-way point right? |
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(05-25-2012, 09:08 AM)
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#347
Another evidence for my theory are these screencaps[Spoiler alert for Episode 7]: Truth's true form?http://i.minus.com/iUhfPNEJ2Q8eY.png Truth's true form in Naru's flashback. It looks more like IFO http://i.minus.com/iTgrFryC4Nty.png "Secret IFO" below Generation's Bleu base http://i.minus.com/iMsRP0KHXdoxl.png For me there're some similarities to the secret IFO and Truth in Naru's flashback. Overall can we call Generation Bleu Nerv now? And I will call the secret IFO Lilith now. I hope I spoiler tagged everything correctly. |
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(05-25-2012, 09:17 AM)
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#348
But I don't think that the IFO in Naru's flashback is Truth. Instead I think that was Nirvash. Look at the outline and it looks very similar, in fact she herself said that Nirvash was the guardian spirit which protected her in the past when Eureka arrived. What is happening in that flashback within a dream is that by altering reality, Truth is making Naru see what he wants her to see I think, and hence he can use Naru as bait for Ao to follow him. As for what Generation Bleu is hiding... doesn't that look like Nirvash too? Maybe even... the actual original two-seater Nirvash. I see a lot of white, and I see red pods... two of them? Hmm.... |
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(05-25-2012, 09:38 AM)
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#349
Joking aside. The IFO looks more like the Devilfish? Was that the name of the IFO which Holland controlled to destroy his brother's machine to get more time for Renton and Eureka? On the other side Mark-I Nirvash looks more different than in the OS. So let us wait and see. But yeah there is a big connection between Eureka, Truth, Naru, Nirvash, Ao and the stars.(especially our moon.) |
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(05-25-2012, 09:44 AM)
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