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(05-21-2012, 01:38 AM)

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
Dat sample

On another note, LMAO at Wiz winning "best new artist" in 2012.
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(05-21-2012, 01:39 AM)

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wuv u ^.^




at least the hook is pretty good. can't say much about a preview.
wenis
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(05-21-2012, 01:40 AM)

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I don't fuck with Lupe anymore. uh uh, no more.
Clayton Bigsby
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(05-21-2012, 01:41 AM)

Originally Posted by wenis: View Post
I don't fuck with Lupe anymore. uh uh, no more.
Give it a chance, there isnt much besides the hook, but the beat is good, that sample is great, and it isnt on some Lasers wub step bullshit.
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(05-21-2012, 01:47 AM)

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
Give it a chance, there isnt much besides the hook, but the beat is good, that sample is great, and it isnt on some Lasers wub step bullshit.
Agreed- back on the train (not the hype train, just the train- think shitty old Amtrak)- but I guarantee all the lyrics on this are gonna annoy me to no end. Hes still on his "FUCK AMERICA" shit, which is whatever, but he articulates it like a first year polisci student who thinks hes a lot smarter than he actually is.

Beat was nice though.
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(05-21-2012, 01:48 AM)

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
Two great albums and one shit album. His batting average is probably better than some of the artists you cry at night to.

Edit: That track has a nice pete rock sample, give it a chance.
By insulting me you're really making me want to listen to Lupe more, chill out new jack.


Man Roc Marciano's been a really busy motherfucker this year, son has been putting out verse after verse. Maybe Blu should learn not to be such a lazy douche and put in work. Dunno who the fuck Wais P. is but Statik and Roc is nice


http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/05/10/...atik-selektah/
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http://youtu.be/2lgD3XJ_-vA
Clayton Bigsby
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(05-21-2012, 01:50 AM)

Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
By insulting me you're really making me want to listen to Lupe more, chill out new jack.


Man Roc Marciano's been a really busy motherfucker this year, son has been putting out verse after verse. Maybe Blu should learn not to be such a lazy douche and put in work. Dunno who the fuck Wais P. is but Statik and Roc is nice


http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/05/10/...atik-selektah/
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http://youtu.be/2lgD3XJ_-vA
Chill out OG. I was joking.
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(05-21-2012, 01:54 AM)

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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
Agreed- back on the train (not the hype train, just the train- think shitty old Amtrak)- but I guarantee all the lyrics on this are gonna annoy me to no end. Hes still on his "FUCK AMERICA" shit, which is whatever, but he articulates it like a first year polisci student who thinks hes a lot smarter than he actually is.

Beat was nice though.
Youre in law school right breh? i always wondered how you feel about that undergrad commentary of his haha

that being said no rapper has ever offered me anything other than sentimental shit in that regard, but maybe thats the point
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(05-21-2012, 01:55 AM)

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My brother pointed out Lupe did a song with the same beat before for a mixtape I'm guessing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1l1K5W_24
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(05-21-2012, 01:56 AM)

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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
Agreed- back on the train (not the hype train, just the train- think shitty old Amtrak)- but I guarantee all the lyrics on this are gonna annoy me to no end. Hes still on his "FUCK AMERICA" shit, which is whatever, but he articulates it like a first year polisci student who thinks hes a lot smarter than he actually is.

Beat was nice though.
god fuck America.
Clayton Bigsby
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(05-21-2012, 01:57 AM)

Originally Posted by Zoramon089: View Post
My brother pointed out Lupe did a song with the same beat before for a mixtape I'm guessing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1l1K5W_24
Seems like a different beat, but samples the same song.
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(05-21-2012, 01:58 AM)

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what i dont get about the fuck america people (and like its totally fine to say fuck america for a number of reasons) is: why the fuck are you still here
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Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
Youre in law school right breh? i always wondered how you feel about that undergrad commentary of his haha

that being said no rapper has ever offered me anything other than sentimental shit in that regard, but maybe thats the point
I think Lupe has good thoughts and intentions- but I have two issues with his new stuff: First, his worldview is so completely black and white and tinged with a sort of paranoid cynicism that its just too much- you're either a hero or a terrorist in Lupe's world. Further, even if this sort of tin-foil paranoia could somehow be justified, he does it at such a basic level. I remember taking intro to polisci, at a so called "good" university- and people there were so full of themselves, and nearly always, they thought they were smarter than they actually were. Lupe strikes me like that. And it might be a limit of the medium, BUT I have a hard time thinking that theres no better way of articulating some degree of distrust in the government and its foreign policy than:
"I really think the war on terror is a bunch of bullshit
Just a poor excuse for you to use up all your bullets
How much money does it take to really make a full clip
9/11 building 7 did they really pull it"
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Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
what i dont get about the fuck america people (and like its totally fine to say fuck america for a number of reasons) is: why the fuck are you still here
The people that are actually serious about it are grown ass adults that can (and some do) actually leave, but the kids that go about yelling that shit are just too lazy and unmotivated to do it.

Basically yelling for no reason other than to yell.
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(05-21-2012, 02:01 AM)

Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
what i dont get about the fuck america people (and like its totally fine to say fuck america for a number of reasons) is: why the fuck are you still here
I like how you belittle lupe for his elementary criticisms but you follow up with that post. Being born in America doesnt mean you have to love it, but it isnt exactly easy to leave everything behind either. Speaking out also doesnt mean you hate the country, but what the country has become. Lupe is a twat when talking political shit, but your "you dont like, leave" mentality is equally as bad.
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
I think Lupe has good thoughts and intentions- but I have two issues with his new stuff: First, his worldview is so completely black and white and tinged with a sort of paranoid cynicism that its just too much- you're either a hero or a terrorist in Lupe's world. Further, even if this sort of tin-foil paranoia could somehow be justified, he does it at such a basic level. I remember taking intro to polisci, at a so called "good" university- and people there were so full of themselves, and nearly always, they thought they were smarter than they actually were. Lupe strikes me like that. And it might be a limit of the medium, BUT I have a hard time thinking that theres no better way of articulating some degree of distrust in the government and its foreign policy than:
"I really think the war on terror is a bunch of bullshit
Just a poor excuse for you to use up all your bullets
How much money does it take to really make a full clip
9/11 building 7 did they really pull it"
I think it used to be he was fairly smart. But somewhere along the line he began to think he was REALLY smarter than everybody around him. There is a fine line between rapping about the world as you see it, and preaching like you're an adult in a classroom full of children. Listen to the difference between Handcuffs and the line you quoted.

Either that or he just discovered weed and is smoking himself into fugues before recording.
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(05-21-2012, 02:06 AM)

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
I like how you belittle lupe for his elementary criticisms but you follow up with that post. Being born in America doesnt mean you have to love it, but it isnt exactly easy to leave everything behind either. Speaking out also doesnt mean you hate the country, but what the country has become. Lupe is a twat when talking political shit, but your "you dont like, leave" mentality is equally as bad.
You're confusing the "fuck america" mentality with having criticism of America. I criticize America all the time. There's so much fucked up with this country from the ground up. It's the naive complaining without cooperating that I dislike strongly. A guy like Lupe, with tons of resources and opportunities should have moved already. Or invested himself in activism.


Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
I think Lupe has good thoughts and intentions- but I have two issues with his new stuff: First, his worldview is so completely black and white and tinged with a sort of paranoid cynicism that its just too much- you're either a hero or a terrorist in Lupe's world. Further, even if this sort of tin-foil paranoia could somehow be justified, he does it at such a basic level. I remember taking intro to polisci, at a so called "good" university- and people there were so full of themselves, and nearly always, they thought they were smarter than they actually were. Lupe strikes me like that. And it might be a limit of the medium, BUT I have a hard time thinking that theres no better way of articulating some degree of distrust in the government and its foreign policy than:
"I really think the war on terror is a bunch of bullshit
Just a poor excuse for you to use up all your bullets
How much money does it take to really make a full clip
9/11 building 7 did they really pull it"
Same lol. I just received my BA in Political Science 2 weeks ago, so i feel you all the way.
Clayton Bigsby
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(05-21-2012, 02:06 AM)

Originally Posted by WanderingWind: View Post
I think it used to be he was fairly smart. But somewhere along the line he began to think he was REALLY smarter than everybody around him. There is a fine line between rapping about the world as you see it, and preaching like you're an adult in a classroom full of children. Listen to the difference between Handcuffs and the line you quoted.

Either that or he just discovered weed and is smoking himself into fugues before recording.
This, somewhere along the way, lupe discovered rage against the machine and became an annoying bitch when speaking political nonsense.
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Originally Posted by wenis: View Post
The people that are actually serious about it are grown ass adults that can (and some do) actually leave, but the kids that go about yelling that shit are just too lazy and unmotivated to do it.

Basically yelling for no reason other than to yell.
not really. they're fighting for change. just because there a few things you don't like about your country doesn't mean you just say "..okay" and leave. i think lupe is just trying to ride this fuck America train in hopes to sell more tapes.
Clayton Bigsby
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(05-21-2012, 02:07 AM)

Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
You're confusing the "fuck america" mentality with having criticism of America. I criticize America all the time. There's so much fucked up with this country from the ground up. It's the naive complaining without cooperating that I dislike strongly. A guy like Lupe, with tons of resources and opportunities should have moved already. Or invested himself in activism.
I don't ever remember lupe saying he hates America , but I also didn't listen to lasers much.
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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
I don't ever remember lupe saying he hates America , but I also didn't listen to lasers much.
From the new song snippet:
"Americas a big motherfucking garbage man"

that metaphor lol.
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(05-21-2012, 02:11 AM)

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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
From the new song snippet:
"Americas a big motherfucking garbage man"

that metaphor lol.
deep man, deep. we can smoke weed here right? your mom is still at work yea?
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(05-21-2012, 02:12 AM)

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Man, Lasers is fucking garbage. Tried to listen to it again...I can't. This is some bullshit.
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
From the new song snippet:
"Americas a big motherfucking garbage man"

that metaphor lol.
I took it as we are extremely wasteful, not that America is full of shit. Oh well, at least that beat is nice lol.
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(05-21-2012, 02:13 AM)

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i always wonder what his label thinks when they get a new sample of some anti america shit to preview for the album. i bet they laugh their asses off
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Originally Posted by Clayton Bigsby: View Post
I took it as we are extremely wasteful, not that America is full of shit. Oh well, at least that beat is nice lol.
I'm hopeful- he rode the hook better than I've heard him flow in a while. I think the song will be good, just hope he keeps the cringe-worthiness minimal.
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(05-21-2012, 02:13 AM)

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Originally Posted by WanderingWind: View Post
Man, Lasers is fucking garbage. Tried to listen to it again...I can't. This is some bullshit.
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.
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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
Wait, are you serious...
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Originally Posted by EschatonDX: View Post
i always wonder what his label thinks when they get a new sample of some anti america shit to preview for the album. i bet they laugh their asses off
if it's a "Star" artist or someone they bank heavily on, they throw money at em and tell em to go record some other shit. If not, yeah, laugh em out till they're hoarse.

Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
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You guys can't tell when somebody is fucking with you by now?

Protip: If it comes out of Chris Tuckers face, you're being fucked with.
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Originally Posted by Complex Shadow: View Post
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
Wait, are you serious...
Originally Posted by WanderingWind: View Post
You guys can't tell when somebody is fucking with you by now?

Protip: If it comes out of Chris Tuckers face, you're being fucked with.
I'm sorry bro, but F&L just isn't that great, it tookt Lasers to drop to realize it. I was never a fan of the album, I thought it was good that's all, it ain't no classic or anything. Then Lasers dropped and I was like damn this is terrible let me go back to F&L to make sure it wasn't this album. I was surprised, Lupe has been terrible this entire time. Beats aged poorly on that album.


It's almost like this gif, but with Lasers instead.
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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
I'm bro, but F&L just isn't that great, it wasn't till Lasers dropped to realize it. I was never a fan of the album, I thought it was good that's all, it ain't no classic or anything. Then Lasers dropped and I was like damn this is terrible let me go back to F&L to make sure it wasn't this album. I was surprised, Lupe has been terrible this entire time. Beats aged poorly on that album.

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/d...derman356k.gif
It's almost like this gif, but with Lasers instead.
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(05-21-2012, 02:36 AM)

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well tguy, i feel ya in the sense that i always thought son's output was just OK level.... Buut man lasers was shitty. it was a shitty piece of music. I deleted that shit, and i keep all sorts of throwaway projects on my computer. Hell I still have a chuck inglish mixtape on here somewhere.
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(05-21-2012, 02:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
No...omg no. Instrumental, Real, Daydreamin, Hurt Me Soul, Cool, American Terrorist, Kick Push II, all better than anything on Lasers. Though I did like the use of Float On on The Show Goes On.
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When yall so called "lupe fans" get an rare unopened copy of Lasers with the Bestbuy price tag on it like it came out today, get at me. Preciate it Esch.
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This is a time where I miss Yoda, I'm sure he'd have my back on this.

Also for you Kanye & Jay fans this video gives a bit of a sneak peek at the Church in the Wild video. Looks nice from what I can tell.

Edit: In all seriousness though Lupe fans, not sure what the majority opinion is on this, but I truly believe Lupe's Flow on Lasers>F&L, not talking about lyrics, but how lyrics are delivered. I really can hear improvement on that especially on his new single.
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(05-21-2012, 03:08 AM)

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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
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(05-21-2012, 03:22 AM)

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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
no
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(05-21-2012, 03:26 AM)

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Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Tguy got every Lupe fan on here faster than a good song from him could.
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Word, Lupe fans came out the damn sewers like Ninja Turtles when I compared Lasers to F&L. I wonder how many of yall clicked the link
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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
wait....people actually hated Lasers? I thought it was okay. On par with F&L.

Edit: Beats on Lasers>F&L
After reading your subsequent posts I can kinda sorta see where you're coming from...but there are like 6-8 songs on F&L that are better than anything on Lasers. I do think The Cool is his best album but F&L is still stratospheres above Lasers in my book.

I miss the Lupe that would use his lyricism to paint vivid pictures and take you off to some alternate reality. Now it's just tinfoil hats, and not even with clever lyrics.

Edit: I checked out the preview of the new song. Like the beat but I'll probably pass because of the subject of the song.
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(05-21-2012, 03:33 AM)

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
After reading your subsequent posts I can kinda sorta see where you're coming from...but there are like 6-8 songs on F&L that are better than anything on Lasers. I do think The Cool is his best album but F&L is still stratospheres above Lasers in my book.

I miss the Lupe that would use his lyricism to paint vivid pictures and take you off to some alternate reality. Now it's just tinfoil hats, and not even with clever lyrics.

Edit: I checked out the preview of the new song. Like the beat but I'll probably pass because of the subject of the song.
I miss that too. Cool and Daydreamin were great because of exactly what you said.
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Originally Posted by Pol_Pothead: View Post
10 bonus tracks from Juicy J's Blue Dream & Lean months after the tape has come out? Sure, why the hell not!

Juicy J - Blue Dream & Lean Bonus Cuts

20 Zig Zags (Produced By Space Ghost Purp)
Bandz A Make Her Dance (Produced by Mike Will)
Codine Cups (Produced By Juicy J and Crazy Mike)
Deep In Da Hood (Produced By Jahlill)
Hell Of A Drug (Produced By Jahlil)
I Wont Miss Ya (Produced By Juicy J)
Im Ballin (Produced By Lex Luger)
Its In Me To Hustle (Produced By Jahlil)
Money Mane Remix (Produced By Sonny Digital)
These Hands (Produced By Sonny Digital)
Saw his tweet about this.. need to get home to peep em..
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I workout to juicy J. shit is hype.
Blackace
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Originally Posted by Tguy: View Post
When yall so called "lupe fans" get an rare unopened copy of Lasers with the Bestbuy price tag on it like it came out today, get at me. Preciate it Esch.


This is a time where I miss Yoda, I'm sure he'd have my back on this.

Also for you Kanye & Jay fans this video gives a bit of a sneak peek at the Church in the Wild video. Looks nice from what I can tell.

Edit: In all seriousness though Lupe fans, not sure what the majority opinion is on this, but I truly believe Lupe's Flow on Lasers>F&L, not talking about lyrics, but how lyrics are delivered. I really can hear improvement on that especially on his new single.
I always read the album cover as Losers..


Never liked Lupe in any shape or form.. just one of those guys I didn't get
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(05-21-2012, 03:37 AM)

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I wrote some bars for XV - May The Force be With You
Anyone got an instrumental? I know it's a Tupac track originally, but I want the XV instrumental.
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Originally Posted by cdyhybrid: View Post
After reading your subsequent posts I can kinda sorta see where you're coming from...but there are like 6-8 songs on F&L that are better than anything on Lasers. I do think The Cool is his best album but F&L is still stratospheres above Lasers in my book.

I miss the Lupe that would use his lyricism to paint vivid pictures and take you off to some alternate reality. Now it's just tinfoil hats, and not even with clever lyrics.

Edit: I checked out the preview of the new song. Like the beat but I'll probably pass because of the subject of the song.
I don't really dislike F&L. It just mostly does nothing for me. I enjoy The Cool more, but my top favorite tracks from Lupe are Daydreamin and Paris, Tokyo
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I always read the album cover as Losers..


Never liked Lupe in any shape or form.. just one of those guys I didn't get
He did the cover like that to say he isn't a loser, he is a laser....100% serious
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Eschaton
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(05-21-2012, 04:04 AM)

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Frank Ocean fuckin around
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Originally Posted by MThanded: View Post
I workout to juicy J. shit is hype.
I've tried before but damn, I just end up cracking up at the shit he says. Dude is ignorant as fuck and it's great.