ccbfan
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(05-20-2012, 04:16 AM)
#9851

Woo

Finally bought all the pieces of my New PC. (Still need SSD to arrive)

i5 3570K ($200 from MicroCenter)
AsRock z77 Pro 4 ($70 with 50 discount from MicroCenter)
Corsair Vengence 8GB ($42 from NewEgg)
Samsung 830 128 GB ($110 from NewEgg)
Corsair cx430 ($17 from NewEgg)
Zalmon Z9 ($28 from MicroCenter)

Total $467

Yes I know there's no Graphics Card for now but I only plan to play Skrym, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 on this for now (Hate FPS games). So the HD 4000 should be good for now.

Also know that the power supply is a little weak but after a little research I found out an over powered power supply is actually bad. My power calculations say my current power usage (including a 2 TB HardDrive I plan to get soon) is under 200 Watts and even after a 7850 (my planned graphics card, waiting for prices to drop when the 660 and 650 comes out) and the 3570K OCed to 4.2 ghz or whatever max ghz I can obtain with no voltage increase its still under 300 Watts.
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mkenyon
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(05-20-2012, 04:21 AM)

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Originally Posted by ccbfan: View Post
Woo

Finally bought all the pieces of my New PC. (Still need SSD to arrive)

i5 3570K ($200 from MicroCenter)
AsRock z77 Pro 4 ($70 with 50 discount from MicroCenter)
Corsair Vengence 8GB ($42 from NewEgg)
Samsung 830 128 GB ($110 from NewEgg)
Corsair cx430 ($17 from NewEgg)
Zalmon Z9 ($28 from MicroCenter)

Total $467

Yes I know there's no Graphics Card for now but I only plan to play Skrym, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 on this for now (Hate FPS games). So the HD 4000 should be good for now.
What?

You need a bit more oomph to play those at playable rates. If you're overclocking, you should look into a different PSU as well. That is going to be really limited once you look into adding a card (which you really should do right now anyway). If you don't have the budget for it, save for a few more weeks.
rhfb
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(05-20-2012, 04:34 AM)

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Playing Diablo III @ 1920x1080 with the HD4000 right now just fine (and I've even played it on the HD3000... not as great but still works)
ccbfan
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(05-20-2012, 04:37 AM)
#9854

Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
What?

You need a bit more oomph to play those at playable rates. If you're overclocking, you should look into a different PSU as well. That is going to be really limited once you look into adding a card (which you really should do right now anyway). If you don't have the budget for it, save for a few more weeks.
From what I seen, D3 and Starcraft 2 at medium setting can run at 30 FPS which is perfectly fine for me for now. When I need something stronger I'll get a graphics card and hopefully by that time the 650 and 660 will be out.

I only plan to low OC my process and from everything I've read a low OC of 4.2 ghz would mean no voltage increase and would barely effect my wattage usage. Using http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine I haven't been able to get my wattage usage above 300 yet with my desired Graphics card.
claviertekky
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(05-20-2012, 05:11 AM)

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Originally Posted by Ace 8095: View Post
Put together my new pc today, however it will not boot. When I first plug it in it runs for about 3 seconds then shuts off. I cannot turn it back on unless I flip the switch on the power supply or press the CMOS button. The power button on the motherboard and the case does nothing. Any suggestions?
Dead motherboard.

Originally Posted by Ace 8095: View Post
After extensive troubleshooting it seems my motherboard is no good. Does anyone know if I could get NewEgg to send me a new one while I'm sending the broken one back.
Ask CS via chat.

I doubt it though.


Originally Posted by TheExodu5: View Post
The HAF 912 is just the right size. I wouldn't really go any smaller because it could limit the hardware going inside it (GPU size, mobo size).

mATX cases like the Fractal Arc Mini are certainly an option if you want something smaller, but there's a price premium for going smaller, oddly enough.

Sucks that small form factors are on the wrong end of the supply demand curve, especially considering that small form factors would require fewer raw materials.


Originally Posted by DarkFlow83: View Post
Yeah I have the 912 and it's a tad bigger then I wanted but it helps airflow so it's a trade off I guess.
I used that case for a friend's build, and I really like it. Cases that take at least 120mm fans or larger are winners.
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mkenyon
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(05-20-2012, 05:59 AM)

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Originally Posted by claviertekky: View Post
Sucks that small form factors are on the wrong end of the supply demand curve, especially considering that small form factors would require fewer raw materials.
The profit margin in selling mATX cases is incredibly slim. The Corsair community manager has gone as far to say Corsair has completely written off doing so because there are so few cases being sold. It's a niche of a niche.

On top of that, decent case design to allow proper high end parts increases the cost of them.

But really, someone just make an all aluminum Arc Mini. If Lian Li just flat out stole the design, it would be the most perfect case on the planet.
MWS Natural
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Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
The profit margin in selling mATX cases is incredibly slim. The Corsair community manager has gone as far to say Corsair has completely written off doing so because there are so few cases being sold. It's a niche of a niche.

On top of that, decent case design to allow proper high end parts increases the cost of them.

But really, someone just make an all aluminum Arc Mini. If Lian Li just flat out stole the design, it would be the most perfect case on the planet.
Just purchased a Lian Li v351 and have made it my mission to get a high end gaming setup working. I am going to take my time in getting just the right pieces that are powerful but don't run too hot. I have also been researching some case modding and/or water cooling. I feel in love with the look of the case when they first came out but decided on a Lanbox Lite instead, finally bought one after they went on sale this past week.
kennah
(05-20-2012, 07:28 AM)

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Originally Posted by MWS Natural: View Post
Just purchased a Lian Li v351 and have made it my mission to get a high end gaming setup working. I am going to take my time in getting just the right pieces that are powerful but don't run too hot. I have also been researching some case modding and/or water cooling. I feel in love with the look of the case when they first came out but decided on a Lanbox Lite instead, finally bought one after they went on sale this past week.
I'd be really interested in seeing your results once done
Ledsen
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(05-20-2012, 07:30 AM)

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Originally Posted by Bombadil: View Post
Suit yourselves.

I got an Antec mid tower case and it has resulted in poor cable management.

The reason why it's best to have a big case is it's easier to put everything together, you have more spaces to hide the cables, and you never have to worry about the future.
Wouldn't the only reason to go bigger than mid tower be SLI? Can't imagine needing anything bigger than my define R3 otherwise, it's huge enough as it is with tons of unused space.
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pyros
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(05-20-2012, 07:45 AM)

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Hi guys, planning on building a new computer, my 2nd, since I started windows gaming, only change this time is, I'm having it built by a professional OC'er because of time constraints, any ways, here is the list;

Intel Core i7 3930K + Asus X79 Pro - 1198
Gskill Ripjaws Z 1600Mhz CL9 32GB - 324
WD 1TB Black x2 - 400
Asus 7970 3GB DDR5 - 845
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer - 145
Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 1000W - 245
LG 24x DVD RW - 28
Win 7 Home premium 64bit OEM - 118
Noctua D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler - 134
Advanced Tuning Package + Delivery - 220
prices in Singapore dollars

any critique would be greatly appreciated, thank you

yes I haven't added in a SSD yet, researching still, any recommendations?
rhfb
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(05-20-2012, 08:22 AM)

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Is the rig only going to be used for gaming or do you have other reasons (video editing, rendering, ect) for going with X79 over Z77? And why go with the 7970? The 670/680 stomp it.
Razgreez
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(05-20-2012, 08:23 AM)

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Originally Posted by MWS Natural: View Post
Just purchased a Lian Li v351 and have made it my mission to get a high end gaming setup working. I am going to take my time in getting just the right pieces that are powerful but don't run too hot. I have also been researching some case modding and/or water cooling. I feel in love with the look of the case when they first came out but decided on a Lanbox Lite instead, finally bought one after they went on sale this past week.
I'm using a PC-Q08 with GTX 680 and i7-@2600k. The main issue with these matx/itx boxes is the stowage of cables and the availability of good motherboards that arent ridiculously over-priced
Last edited by Razgreez; 05-20-2012 at 08:26 AM.
pyros
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(05-20-2012, 08:50 AM)

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Originally Posted by rhfb: View Post
Is the rig only going to be used for gaming or do you have other reasons (video editing, rendering, ect) for going with X79 over Z77? And why go with the 7970? The 670/680 stomp it.
To be frank, the specs are to an extent, the OC guys vision, more then mine. I actually was keen on a gtx680. The list is his recommendation, I just wanted to play it off pc gaf to get an alternate view, and yes, it's for gaming only, have a mac pro for work.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 09:35 AM)

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#9864

Setting the PSU up in my Bitfenix Shinobi and I can't see any screws with it, so I used the screws bundled with the case and I only seem to have three that fit.
MrBig
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(05-20-2012, 12:13 PM)

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Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
What?

You need a bit more oomph to play those at playable rates. If you're overclocking, you should look into a different PSU as well. That is going to be really limited once you look into adding a card (which you really should do right now anyway). If you don't have the budget for it, save for a few more weeks.
The HD 4000 can supposedly push Skyrim at ~30+fps @1080 with medium-low settings (which is what my current 9600m GT gets). If he's already made his order it'd be nice to see what kind of results he gets, no site I've found has done a review of the HD 4000 under normal play. If people are just going to be playing games like that, just buying a 3570k instead of a 2500k + a GPU for lower end builds could be a fine recommendation.
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MrKnives
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(05-20-2012, 03:24 PM)

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#9866

Can someone enlight me please, haven't really been following lately. What's the latest opinion on HD7850 and is there any advantage in buying i5 3570K over 2500k?
r4z4
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(05-20-2012, 03:31 PM)

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I've been dipping my feet into overclocking for the first time with my 3570k (following the guide in the awesome OP).

I have a Bitfenix Shinobi with 3 fans (front, back, top) and a 212+ Evo.

My first run was 4.4 GHz with core voltage set at 2.500. My max temps after running Prime95 were 71, 76, 76, 74.

I've been working on bringing core voltage down, and at 1.175 my temps are 67, 72, 74, 69.

Where should I go next? Keep under volting or increasing the clock speed? I am pretty happy with 4.4GHz as I know IB runs hotter than SB.
r4z4
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(05-20-2012, 03:32 PM)

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Originally Posted by JonCha: View Post
Setting the PSU up in my Bitfenix Shinobi and I can't see any screws with it, so I used the screws bundled with the case and I only seem to have three that fit.
My Shinobi Window had 8 hex screws for 3.5" bays and PSU, they should be in there somewhere.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 04:36 PM)

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Originally Posted by r4z4: View Post
My Shinobi Window had 8 hex screws for 3.5" bays and PSU, they should be in there somewhere.
Cheers. I'll have a look at the end; it seems pretty stable for now.

I/O board in after leaving it for the afternoon and going out, so hopefully that's in the right way (I put the mouse and keyboard inputs at the top). Now for the motherboard, which seems awfully complicated to get in position ...
mkenyon
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(05-20-2012, 04:40 PM)

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#9870

Originally Posted by Ledsen: View Post
Wouldn't the only reason to go bigger than mid tower be SLI? Can't imagine needing anything bigger than my define R3 otherwise, it's huge enough as it is with tons of unused space.
E-ATX, XL-ATX, more HDD space, more radiator space.
Originally Posted by pyros: View Post
Hi guys, planning on building a new computer, my 2nd, since I started windows gaming, only change this time is, I'm having it built by a professional OC'er because of time constraints, any ways, here is the list;

Intel Core i7 3930K + Asus X79 Pro - 1198
Gskill Ripjaws Z 1600Mhz CL9 32GB - 324
WD 1TB Black x2 - 400
Asus 7970 3GB DDR5 - 845
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer - 145
Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 1000W - 245
LG 24x DVD RW - 28
Win 7 Home premium 64bit OEM - 118
Noctua D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler - 134
Advanced Tuning Package + Delivery - 220
prices in Singapore dollars

any critique would be greatly appreciated, thank you

yes I haven't added in a SSD yet, researching still, any recommendations?
'Professional' Overclocker that picks crap RAM and so much of it that it'll bottleneck your CPU overclock? Something smells fishy, especially with the not great PSU with way too many watts.

Follow one of the OP builds. You're spending *WAY* too much money on a gaming only build. 3930K will give you an edge in benches, but not games outside of Civ V. 32GB of RAM is 4 times the amount that you would need for gaming, and the more RAM you have on socket 2011, the more crippled your overclock is on your processor. To top it off, you need fairly speedy RAM to hold a decent OC since you will be altering your BCLK anyway.

Originally Posted by r4z4: View Post
I've been dipping my feet into overclocking for the first time with my 3570k (following the guide in the awesome OP).

I have a Bitfenix Shinobi with 3 fans (front, back, top) and a 212+ Evo.

My first run was 4.4 GHz with core voltage set at 2.500. My max temps after running Prime95 were 71, 76, 76, 74.

I've been working on bringing core voltage down, and at 1.175 my temps are 67, 72, 74, 69.

Where should I go next? Keep under volting or increasing the clock speed? I am pretty happy with 4.4GHz as I know IB runs hotter than SB.
MORE POWER. Find your heat wall, go just below it.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 05:02 PM)

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Switched I/O orientation because it was wrong, put CPU in but trying to lock into place is incredibly nerve racking. I'm pushing the lever down, and it's beginning to creak as I push it.
mkenyon
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(05-20-2012, 05:03 PM)

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Originally Posted by JonCha: View Post
Switched I/O orientation because it was wrong, put CPU in but trying to lock into place is incredibly nerve racking. I'm pushing the lever down, and it's beginning to creak as I push it.
Normal. Don't fret.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 05:15 PM)

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Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
Normal. Don't fret.
Yep, it went down eventually (thanks anyway). Just had to push it a lot.

RAM's also in, which was super easy. On to the CPU cooler!
UltimateIke
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(05-20-2012, 05:24 PM)

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#9874

Originally Posted by r4z4: View Post
I've been dipping my feet into overclocking for the first time with my 3570k (following the guide in the awesome OP).

I have a Bitfenix Shinobi with 3 fans (front, back, top) and a 212+ Evo.

My first run was 4.4 GHz with core voltage set at 2.500. My max temps after running Prime95 were 71, 76, 76, 74.

I've been working on bringing core voltage down, and at 1.175 my temps are 67, 72, 74, 69.

Where should I go next? Keep under volting or increasing the clock speed? I am pretty happy with 4.4GHz as I know IB runs hotter than SB.
I hope you meant 1.25. Haha. 1.175V is very good for 4.4GHz.

I'm only able to get to a stable 4.5GHz with 1.24V, but my temperatures stay in the mid-70s during hours and hours of Prime95. I think that's the best I'm going to manage for now.

I'm hoping a dedicated GPU will lower the temps a little. I don't know if it does much, but the integrated graphics have to be generating some heat, right?
r4z4
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(05-20-2012, 06:15 PM)

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Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
MORE POWER. Find your heat wall, go just below it.
Ok, how does one find their heat wall? Every time my temps hit high 70s I poop my pants.

Originally Posted by UltimateIke: View Post
I hope you meant 1.25
Doh, yep meant 1.25.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 06:27 PM)

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The motherboard standoffs aren't brass for the Shinobi. My manual says there are nine - I need a six - and they're the square-ish ones.
LordAlu
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(05-20-2012, 06:29 PM)

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Originally Posted by UltimateIke: View Post
I hope you meant 1.25. Haha. 1.175V is very good for 4.4GHz.

I'm only able to get to a stable 4.5GHz with 1.24V, but my temperatures stay in the mid-70s during hours and hours of Prime95. I think that's the best I'm going to manage for now.

I'm hoping a dedicated GPU will lower the temps a little. I don't know if it does much, but the integrated graphics have to be generating some heat, right?
I can only get 4.4GHz with 1.27v, with temps around 72. I can't get my RAM to its rated 1600MHz either, and there's no VCCIO setting on the P8Z77-V. Ah well :P
professor_t
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(05-20-2012, 06:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by Let me in: View Post
Have you always played on a TV? And always with triple buffering? Any syncing method will have a hit on performance as the hardware has to wait for the device to refresh before displaying the rendered image instead of just rendering as fast as possible and displaying.

Your average FPS with syncing on/off wasn't that different and going by the min FPS your system is struggling with it either way in certain areas. Is your CPU holding back the GPU, perhaps? It's not that old, though.

Why not try with just vsync enabled though the control panel and see what happens.
I have always played on this particular TV, and almost always with triple buffering (ever since I discovered it).

I tried benchmarking and playing the game with triple buffering off and adaptive v-sync enabled through the control panel. The benchmark was a travesty -- my minimum fps was FOUR. A hamster in a wheel would power better performance.

In gameplay, it's much of the same -- at points it's buttery smooth, but there are ridiculously awful frame drops, and they happen pretty frequently.

So, there seems to be a problem, but the synthetic benchmarks are just fine (performing in line with expectations, or even better than some of the review benchmarks on systems with better RAM and CPUs).

Is it normal for a synthetic benchmark to be fantastic but for a game benchmark to be terrible? Bad drivers, maybe?

I need to benchmark a few other games. The only other thing I've played so far is Crysis 2, which at 1080p with DX1/tesselation/high-res textures and everything at the max settings hovers between 52 and 60 fps (with triple buffering on), and occasionally dips into the 40s. Is that what I should expect with a 670?

Thanks for the help so far.
alternade
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(05-20-2012, 06:39 PM)
#9879

God this is so frustrating and i haven't even begun getting my parts yet. I talked to some people and they said the 550ti is crap and i should go with the HD6870.

Is the i5-3550 ivy bridge that much better than a i5-2500k? I don't plan/know how to OC.
Ty4on
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(05-20-2012, 07:12 PM)

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Originally Posted by alternade: View Post
God this is so frustrating and i haven't even begun getting my parts yet. I talked to some people and they said the 550ti is crap and i should go with the HD6870.

Is the i5-3550 ivy bridge that much better than a i5-2500k? I don't plan/know how to OC.
Check out the reviews.


It's the same for games, even in Just Cause 2 which AMD used to struggle with (78XX and 79XX shine in Just Cause 2) the 6870 beats the 550ti.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 07:26 PM)

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Trying to get the motherboard to line up and it's proving really hard ...
opticalmace
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(05-20-2012, 07:27 PM)

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Originally Posted by JonCha: View Post
Trying to get the motherboard to line up and it's proving really hard ...
I hope you have the case on its side.

edit: you should be able to see the standoffs through the holes on the MB.
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JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 07:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by opticalmace: View Post
I hope you have the case on its side.

edit: you should be able to see the standoffs through the holes on the MB.
Yeah, its. And the standoffs are in the the right place, and line up without the I/O on. With it on, they're like half a mm off.
opticalmace
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(05-20-2012, 08:09 PM)

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Originally Posted by JonCha: View Post
Yeah, its. And the standoffs are in the the right place, and line up without the I/O on. With it on, they're like half a mm off.
Oh, the I/O insert? Yeah sometimes I found they weren't a perfect fit. Just do what you can, as long as you can plug your stuff in and the motherboard is secure in the case.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 08:12 PM)

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Originally Posted by opticalmace: View Post
Oh, the I/O insert? Yeah sometimes I found they weren't a perfect fit. Just do what you can, as long as you can plug your stuff in and the motherboard is secure in the case.
Thanks. I just forced it a little and everything lined up (I think, judging with my iPhone light).

Next step: screwing the motherboard down. My 'board manual says M3 Round screws are used, and there are 13 of them. I counted 14, and they're the really small ones. I've screwed one in and it seemed to fit.

Note, none of my screws for the 'board are brass. I'm a little worried.
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ccbfan
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(05-20-2012, 08:17 PM)
#9886

Originally Posted by MrBig: View Post
The HD 4000 can supposedly push Skyrim at ~30+fps @1080 with medium-low settings (which is what my current 9600m GT gets). If he's already made his order it'd be nice to see what kind of results he gets, no site I've found has done a review of the HD 4000 under normal play. If people are just going to be playing games like that, just buying a 3570k instead of a 2500k + a GPU for lower end builds could be a fine recommendation.

I already got all the parts. Just waiting for the SSD to arrive. I'll give updates on how this performs. Even if it suck then I'll just get a graphics card earlier than I expected. I live near a microcenter so the I5 3570K was only 10 bucks more than the I5 2500K.

I know what you mean when you say, there's no real world research for the HD 4000 on the internet. The only reason I'm somewhat confident I'll be fine is a friend of mine is building a new PC and giving his old one to his girlfriend. His is a higher powered one than mine

i5 3770K
AsRock Extreme 4
16 Gigs Corsair Vengence Ram
Crucial M4 256 GB
Some 750 watt power supply I think its antec

(He was still waiting for a 680, so thats why he didn't have a graphics card yet)

Well we ran Starcraft 2 and the Diablo 3 beta on that setup and it ran well. I mean still looks on par or better than most PS3/360 games. Since the 3770K and the 3570K both use HD 4000 and we're using the same ram. As long as I get similar results I'll be happy.
MrBig
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(05-20-2012, 08:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by ccbfan: View Post
Well we ran Starcraft 2 and the Diablo 3 beta on that setup and it ran well. I mean still looks on par or better than most PS3/360 games. Since the 3770K and the 3570K both use HD 4000 and we're using the same ram. As long as I get similar results I'll be happy.
That's about what I was expecting. My 9600m gives me just a bit more performance in games than the 360 does, and the vague reports I've seen showed similar performance to that. Certainly post back when you build and try out Skyrim.
I'll be playing on a 670, but I'd like to know.
r4z4
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(05-20-2012, 08:36 PM)

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Originally Posted by JonCha: View Post
Note, none of my screws for the 'board are brass. I'm a little worried.
I used the screws that came with my Shinobi, the small black ones. They appear to hold the weight of my motherboard and everything on it perfectly so I wouldn't worry.
Ledsen
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(05-20-2012, 09:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by mkenyon: View Post
E-ATX, XL-ATX, more HDD space, more radiator space.

'
Don't know any of those acronyms, but pretty sure i don't need them as a pc gamer that just wants to play games on max settings on a 1080p tv, with a good graphics card and the standard 2500k+overclock and nothing else. I don't utilize all my fan slots as is and my R3 has like 5 slots for hdds (I own 1 hdd). Still can't see the need for anything bigger than
mid tower unless you're a super entusiast with tons of space and money.
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BackwardsSuggestions
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(05-20-2012, 09:49 PM)

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#9890

My current rig is as follows:

Intel® Core™i5-2400 Quad Core (3.10GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics
ASUS® P8Z68-V LX
8GB RAM
Nvidia GTX570
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU

Is it worth upgrading the CPU or is it better to wait?

Also, is the motherboard ok to keep for another year or so or is it better to also upgrade that?
opticalmace
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(05-20-2012, 10:01 PM)

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Originally Posted by BackwardsSuggestions: View Post
My current rig is as follows:

Intel® Core™i5-2400 Quad Core (3.10GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics
ASUS® P8Z68-V LX
8GB RAM
Nvidia GTX570
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU

Is it worth upgrading the CPU or is it better to wait?

Also, is the motherboard ok to keep for another year or so or is it better to also upgrade that?
No need to upgrade at all, your system is very fast.
BackwardsSuggestions
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(05-20-2012, 10:05 PM)

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Originally Posted by opticalmace: View Post
No need to upgrade at all, your system is very fast.
Lovely. :D Only thing is the stock cooler with the CPU busted so have to buy another.
JonCha
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(05-20-2012, 10:27 PM)

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#9893

Overwhelmed with the amount of ports I need to connect to. My ASUS motherboard doesn't include one of those easy connection things either ...
mkenyon
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(05-20-2012, 11:47 PM)

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#9894

Originally Posted by r4z4: View Post
Ok, how does one find their heat wall? Every time my temps hit high 70s I poop my pants.



Doh, yep meant 1.25.
Keep going, when it hits the 90s-100s, thats the heat wall. Back it off from there. Ivy is not Sandy, it runs hot. You don't really have to worry about going too hot, just try to stay below 1.4V and nothing is going to get hurt.
Originally Posted by Ledsen: View Post
Don't know any of those acronyms, but pretty sure i don't need them as a pc gamer that just wants to play games on max settings on a 1080p tv, with a good graphics card and the standard 2500k+overclock and nothing else. I don't utilize all my fan slots as is and my R3 has like 5 slots for hdds (I own 1 hdd). Still can't see the need for anything bigger than mid tower unless you're a super entusiast with tons of space and money.
When you have room for the radiators, you can run a near silent case. It's subjective, and *you* have no use for anything larger, but others do. I barely have enough space for the watercooling stuff in my 600T, even having to cut the crap out of it as I type this to fit in a 360mm radiator.
Caelus
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(05-21-2012, 01:35 AM)

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#9895

GAF, I'm thinking of upgrading my old Dell Desktop GPU.

My current specs:
CPU: Intel Pentium D 3.00 GHz
4 GB RAM
Radeon X600 series

I want to upgrade to a Radeon HD 4670, because I heard it would consume less energy. My desktop has a 305w PSU. Is this appropriate, and can I run newer games at decent settings? I don't plan on enabling AA.
opticalmace
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(05-21-2012, 01:45 AM)

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#9896

Originally Posted by Caelus: View Post
GAF, I'm thinking of upgrading my old Dell Desktop GPU.

My current specs:
CPU: Intel Pentium D 3.00 GHz
4 GB RAM
Radeon X600 series

I want to upgrade to a Radeon HD 4670, because I heard it would consume less energy. My desktop has a 305w PSU. Is this appropriate, and can I run newer games at decent settings? I don't plan on enabling AA.
What resolution are you using? And what brand of PSU?

To be honest I would just do a new budget build. Even something pretty cheap would be a shitload faster.
Caelus
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(05-21-2012, 01:51 AM)

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#9897

Originally Posted by opticalmace: View Post
What resolution are you using? And what brand of PSU?
Highest resolutions I will run are at 1360x768 and 1280x1024.

As for the PSU, this is all the info I could find:

DC power supply:

Wattage

305 W

Heat dissipation

1041 BTU/hr

Voltage (see the safety instructions in the Product Information Guide for important voltage setting information)

90 to 135 V and 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz

I thought about upgrading to this specific card due to this recommendation, and this running at what I believe to be similar specs (I have a dual-core CPU).

I already own this desktop, I just want to upgrade the GPU, I plan on building a new one when I have the time and permission (check my age).
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EternalGamer
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(05-21-2012, 04:47 AM)
#9898

Originally Posted by alternade:
God this is so frustrating and i haven't even begun getting my parts yet. I talked to some people and they said the 550ti is crap and i should go with the HD6870.

Is the i5-3550 ivy bridge that much better than a i5-2500k? I don't plan/know how to OC
I can say that I have dual 6870s and they chew through everything I throw at them at maxed out specs. There have been a few driver problems with older games, but, for example, even though Witcher 2 only supported 1 card at launch, I was still able to max out everything except "uber sampling" and get very high constant framerates. As long as you can put up with having to patient waiting for drivers on occasion, it's a very very good card. I've had the pair of them for about a year and half and they've done me well.
DeadTrees
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(05-21-2012, 05:15 AM)

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#9899

Originally Posted by Caelus: View Post
I thought about upgrading to this specific card due to this recommendation, and this running at what I believe to be similar specs (I have a dual-core CPU).
The Pentium D is based on Pentium 4/Netburst tech--it's not anywhere close to an E5700.
Bombadil
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(05-21-2012, 05:21 AM)
#9900

Originally Posted by pyros: View Post
Hi guys, planning on building a new computer, my 2nd, since I started windows gaming, only change this time is, I'm having it built by a professional OC'er because of time constraints, any ways, here is the list;

Intel Core i7 3930K + Asus X79 Pro - 1198
Gskill Ripjaws Z 1600Mhz CL9 32GB - 324
WD 1TB Black x2 - 400
Asus 7970 3GB DDR5 - 845
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer - 145
Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 1000W - 245
LG 24x DVD RW - 28
Win 7 Home premium 64bit OEM - 118
Noctua D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler - 134
Advanced Tuning Package + Delivery - 220
prices in Singapore dollars

any critique would be greatly appreciated, thank you

yes I haven't added in a SSD yet, researching still, any recommendations?
If those numbers at end of each item are prices then I think you've been ripped off several times, even when I converted the price to US dollars. Are prices for electronics higher in Singapore because you're basically paying 665 USD for a graphics card that costs 500 USD on Newegg.