[hamchan]

I think she made it pretty clear she didn't really give a shit about that.

Poor Ken.

[terrdactycalsrock]

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

I couldnt but help cringe at the thought!

[brianjones]

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

that would have been the greatest dark comedy moment ever

[HP_Wuvcraft]

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

They have been foreshadowing the shit out of that shaft.

[CB3]

"Let's pretend I'm not responsible for every single good thing that's happened to you."

shieeeeet

[blame space]

haha

[Discotheque]

"Let's pretend I'm not responsible for every single good thing that's happened to you." shieeeeet

As cocky as Don is about his abilities it looked like he didn't mean that at all and it showed on his face, I don't think Peggy believed he meant it either.

Far and away the best episode of the season. Don's face when Joan walked into the partner's meeting was great. Almost a Suitcase moment.

[Rez]

Peggy is one of my favourite characters in anything.

good post!

[CB3]

As cocky as Don is about his abilities it looked like he didn't mean that at all and it showed on his face, I don't think Peggy believed he meant it either. Far and away the best episode of the season. Don's face when Joan walked into the partner's meeting was great. Almost a Suitcase moment.

Whether he meant it or not doesnt take away the sting of actually saying it. It still came out. And it was fire.

[Black Mamba]

Man, what a disappointment Pete has become. For a while it looked like he was growing into a better person, but the 2nd half of this season has turned Pete back into scum.

Roger not even really protesting the Joan thing was also disappointing.

Loved that don didn't stand for it. Even if part of that was because he wanted it on his own merit.

I don't blame Joan for doing it. That's a lot of money being offered.



Big plot was Peggy leaving. We all this moment was coming, but I assumed it would be towards the end of the show's run, not now. Are we going to follow her away from SCDP? If she's really gone, it's kind of confusing. I always assumed she was the most important character besides Don. And the one that represented the 60s the most (and does here).

Peggy is such a great character, I really just don't want her gone. Even though I was happy to see her stand up for herself while Joan sold herself out (and Megan was also on display). But this show without Peggy just won't be the same.

[Discotheque]

Haha, but my point is it wasn't fire at all because she didn't feel the sting. It was a hollow attempt at insulting her.

[NYR]

Pete Campbell is the 1960's version of Walter White. Good guy with good intentions turns into a dickhead asshole who does really bad & selfish things.

[RatskyWatsky]

I feel sick. I can't believe the partners would agree to pimp Joan out. And that she'd agree to it. I mean, I can in a way as their motivations were pretty clear, but still.

:(

And Peggy leaving is pretty huge. I really hope the show continues to follow her journey.

All in all a tremendous episode.

[hamchan]

Pete Campbell is the 1960's version of Walter White. Good guy with good intentions turns into a dickhead asshole who does really bad & selfish things.

Pete Campbell was a dickhead from episode 1.

[kirblar]

He's talking about, you know, the time when she was actually raped.

The producers of the show had a really interesting interview where they discussed how the modern audiences' perception of that incident might be completely different from Joan's own. (Rape vs a really bad date.) And that kind of played out here, with Joan in another bad sexual situation that she endures in the hopes of a better future. (Marriage then, here, the partnership stake and voice she's wanted for so long.)

[ivysaur12]

Thanks to work, I'm so behind. Just finished 504. Glad Joan dropped the rapist (and brought it up again). Small steps towards her own agency, even if it's more out of necessity than by choice.

[encephalon]

2

Thanks.

Hurry up apple. :(

[Dany M]

I demand that money throwing GIF NOW!

[wenis]

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

I thought she was about to get capped... like mad gunman style.

[lush]

Still having a hard time accepting Joan's decision. That whole arc seemed a bit much for me. Mad respect for Peggy after mulling over her decision, I think she'll regret it but good move for the present.

YOLO am I right?

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Pete Campbell was a dickhead from episode 1.

Yeah.

He's just really a dickhead now, primarily because he finally figured out who he was in the last seven episodes.

[WonkersTHEWatilla]

I'm surprised she did it too. I dont judge her, but you'd think she'd consider the ramifications if that secret ever got around the office. I mean, it's a secret shared between her and a group of men, not exactly airtight.

I'm surprised Roger didn't have more to say about. Perhaps he respects her enough to let her make her own choices, but jeebus, she had his child.

[shagg_187]

I think I'm going to throw up...

What a twisted and fantastic episode.

[Dominican Power]

According to an online inflation calculator I used, Peggy's new salary of $19k would be worth $126k USD in 2010 dollars. Wait, what about the Ken and Peggy pact?

$134,926.39 in 2012

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

After Don, Peggy is the most interesting character on the show. We've watched her grow from a naive, scared little girl to an assertive, talented, and creative woman who knows her worth as a copywriter.

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I don't think we're seeing Peggy anytime soon, or I dunno. This was her send off, it totally felt like it would be her last appearance. Seeing her again would deflate her and dons scene.

You're going to be seeing Peggy all the time. It's been clear from episode 1 of the whole show that this series is rooted in Don with/vs Peggy.

[hamchan]

Ginsberg + Don vs Peggy now?

[Vice]

What a soul-crushing episode.

[encephalon]

I don't understand Joan's impulse. For Christsakes, she was raped. Why would she put herself through this, or even allow the possibility?

"You're a good one, aren't you?"

She's accepted the reality of gender inequality of the time. And she's using her position as an object to gain power within that reality.

[Dominican Power]

$88,767.36 is Joan's salary in today's world.

[jey_16]

Damn....I teared up a bit when don kissed Peggy's hand

[Socreges]

"Hey guys, this is the best season of anything ever!" "Ah, what do you know. You get excited about everything, you dope!" WELL, WELL, WELL.

Wonderful episode.

...you're still wrong.

[pulga]

Wow so Peggy left. Damn.

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

When the elevator dinged and Peggy was looking down the hallway, I was sure she was about to fall down it. Phew.

[Socreges]

When the elevator dinged and Peggy was looking down the hallway, I was sure she was about to fall down it. Phew.

They probably wanted us to think about that.

If you see the elevator as an 'abyss' (Don: Megan as stability in one elevator and emptiness in the other), Peggy just stepped right in with a smile on her face.

Also wanted to mention how the Jaguar/Joan metaphor surprised me with how it lacked any subtlety. The show normally does those things with a lot more nuance.

[Fjordson]

Wow. What a fantastic episode. So conflicted about so many things that happened. I was so sad to see Peggy go, but was happy that she took a stand for herself. It was bound to happen at some point, though like someone else said, I was expecting it more towards the end of the show. I really, really, really hope we still get to follow her character.

Ginsberg + Don vs Peggy now?

That's what I was thinking. Ginsberg coming up with the Jaguar pitch combined with Peggy leaving sort of set it up that way. Ginsberg is a really interesting character so that was neat to see him come up that tagline. I'm guessing with Peggy gone Don will depend on him even more, though the big difference there is that I think he actually liked and respected Peggy (despite being a douchebag to her too often). With Ginsberg, he's slowly seeing his talent, but he also seems to despise his company. Should be interesting to watch.

[&Divius]

Great episode.

also PEGGYYY NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Tim the Wiz]

Oh, man. For a second there, I thought Peggy was about to plummet to her death. D:

Seriously, though, I'm going to miss her, if that's really her exit. Peggy's always been my favourite. It's probably the healthy decision for her career, too, which only makes it sadder. They have to follow her story as a competing copywriter. They just have to.

But don't worry, guys. It's Ginsberg time!

[Fjordson]

But don't worry, guys. It's Ginsberg time!

If Peggy is gone for good then I'm going to be sad. She's the most interesting character to me after Don.

But I do love Ginsberg :lol hope this means he'll have a larger role on the show going forward.

[encephalon]

Peggy is my favorite character so I hope we'll see something, but I get the feeling that they're not going to construct an entire office around her new decision. :(

[i_am_ben]

I love how Don hates dirty business and him telling Joan to not pimp herself out makes me respect him more. Their scenes together are so great. The Don and Peggy scene brought a tear to my eye. Such a good moment when Don realizes Peggy is actually serious about quitting, then his face goes from all smiles to sadness. Jon Hamm and Elisabeth Moss nailed that scene perfectly.

Sure if you ignore all the terrible aspects of Don. He did after all fire Sal for not pimping himself out to a client.

[EleventhDoctor]

Sure if you ignore all the terrible aspects of Don. He did after all fire Sal for not pimping himself out to a client.

Wow very good point.

And yes let's not shit ourselves-Don is a Grade A asshole.

[cw_sasuke]

F***ck Pete that little prick...hate him so much.

[Ignatz Mouse]

BTW anyone else think Peggy was about to fall down the elevator?

Yep, I sure did. Not seriously, but it was the first thing I thought of.

[Ignatz Mouse]

Sure if you ignore all the terrible aspects of Don. He did after all fire Sal for not pimping himself out to a client.

Don's been growing into a better man for a season Ans a half.

[ToyMachine228]

I had a feeling Peggy would leave someday. I think the show is indeed going to follow her. This is our chance to see what other ad agencies were like at the time. And to see the world of the 60's through non-Sterling Cooper Draper Price colored glasses. It should be interesting. It'll also be interesting to see if this other place treats Peggy like a queen, or if they chew her up and spit her out.

[iNvid02]

really interesting watching peggy's transformation throughout the series, in the process she turned into my fav character while pete is my most disliked now - at the start it was probably the other way around

i hope we get to see her still

[Dominican Power]

Don was in a bad place when he suggested that to Sal. He's taking this more personal given that his mother was a prostitute.

[MrBig]

I just started watching this, from season 1. I love retro shows, don't know why I never watched it before.
I hate Don's personality, but really that means that they've got good characterization; the writing seems quite solid, I think I'll keep at it.

[gdt]

Holy fucking cow what an episode. Such a mix of emotions. DAT Don and Peggy scene. You can see the pain in both their faces. Don looked like he was gonna explode/taking a shit as she was walking out.

[maladroid]

Pete is such a sleaze bag. I used to feel a bit sorry him with his family situation, but now I have no sympathy for him or his hairline.

When Roger yells out 'It wasn't even close!' (or something to that effect), did it make anybody else wonder if they could have won Jaguar over without Joan resorting to what she did?

My money is now on Don for going out the window. How many seasons are left? With Peggy leaving, Ginsberg coming up with all the best ideas and Don left with the company of a bunch of low lives (in his fellow partners), all that needs to happen is Megan winning a part and leaving, as well as Lane's shoddy finances being exposed, to create the perfect recipe to make a non-silhouetted version of the opening happen.

[The Big Rig]

I am almost certain they will continue with Peggy's story. They're not going to pull a Betty Draper on her.