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purveyor and connoisseur
of fine gaming specimens (06-01-2012, 01:26 PM)
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#52
If this happens, it won't be built with a small sensor. It'll be m4/3-ish or bigger. There's no reason for Apple to release a device that only improves on the iPhone camera by adding an optical zoom. There's room for consumer cameras to be made more wifi/web/metadata/social-media-aware. If Apple competes here, they'll be pushing that angle. FaceTime on your point & shoot might be a thing.
And I kinda hope it doesn't happen, just because the photography world is already full of partisan bickering. I would rather not see Apple fans added to the conversation. I'm still waiting for people to recognize the Lytro as the software-driven gimmick that it is. |
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(06-01-2012, 01:28 PM)
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#53
Originally Posted by Cheebo:
I'm just a hobbyist, and despite using Apple hardware (Mac Pro) and software (Aperture) to process my photos, I sure as shit won't be giving up my Nikon SLR and lenses for an Apple point-and-shoot. I don't think a dedicated Apple P&S makes a lot of sense anyway. |
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testicles on a cold fall morning
(06-01-2012, 01:29 PM)
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#54
Originally Posted by Alucrid:
i can't imagine this 'working' unless it's built off bleeding edge technology (like the lytro light field camera) that causes a paradigm shift in the industry. friends who do this for a very nice living (or at the least for the insane access to great bands) are more heavily invested in their lenses and the particularities of the bodies than the computer they finalize their shots on. sure, most use Macs, but nearly all also favor LR4 for managing their workflow. all of this idle speculation is probably meaningless though. whatever Apple's developing most likely won't be geared towards the professional set, anyhow. That hasn't been their MO for years.
Last edited by scorcho; 06-01-2012 at 01:41 PM.
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always-end-with-a-swirl
(06-01-2012, 01:31 PM)
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#57
Originally Posted by Crunched:
And the iPhone is the most used camera in the world by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR. |
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Member
(06-01-2012, 01:36 PM)
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#59
Not the first time Apple have made a camera:
 We actually have one somewhere. But anyway, I'm not sure how much I believe this rumour. It doesn't really make that much sense, especially since point-and-shoot cameras are slowly disappearing in favour of phones.
Last edited by Xun; 06-01-2012 at 01:38 PM.
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unemployed member of
the Jewish conspiracy (06-01-2012, 01:54 PM)
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#62
Originally Posted by Cheebo:
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point your penis at me,
and have a good day (06-01-2012, 02:07 PM)
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#63
Originally Posted by Tedesco!:
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Member
(06-01-2012, 02:13 PM)
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#66
The QuickTake was one of the very first digital cameras you could buy. Was super cool at the time.
Having said that, I agree with the others, in that I just can't see why they'd compete with their own products that are already sorta destroying the P&S market. Even if Apple went into the Canon/Nikon space for some reason, there's no way in hell the pro photogs are gonna give up their precious gear. Unless Apple has some kind of otherworldy light field camera or something completely unique, I just can't see it at all. |
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Junior Member
(06-01-2012, 02:17 PM)
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#68
Originally Posted by effingvic:
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Honourary member of the SISTERHOOD
(06-01-2012, 02:18 PM)
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#69
No they reportedly are not.
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Member
(06-01-2012, 02:38 PM)
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#72
I'd be very surprised if Apple created a stand alone digital camera when they already have the most popular point and shoot camera in the world.
People need to stop posting every Apple rumor as if it has merit.
Originally Posted by The_Inquisitor:
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(06-01-2012, 02:41 PM)
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#73
This is an odd rumor to say the least. On some level it makes sense, but on a lot of other levels it does not. As others have said, the Point and Shoot market is a tough place to be right now and a number of established brands are having a tough time in that arena. Apple would have to bring something really great to the table to carve something out there. That said, the interface/OS on most cameras is not very good and consumers are often confused on how to use them. If Apple can improve there, they might be on to something.
Personally, I think if they're going to get into cameras they need to leave the P&S market alone and get into the mirrorless interchangeable lens markets instead. That space is getting crowed quickly as well, but at least there is some room to do something interesting at this point. No way they can challenge Nikon or Canon for dominance in the DSLR segment of the market. But for those saying the iPhone is a good enough point and shoot, I have to disagree. It's good as far as smartphones go and it takes decent photos, but without decent glass or a good zoom lens, it'll always perform under-par for those that take their photography seriously. Don't get me wrong, I do use my iPhone 4S for snapping photos from time to time, and generally they're fine, but it isn't going to replace my Nikon SLR or either of the two P&S cameras I use (one ruggedized the other high end P&S) when I need something serious. I'm even considering adding a micro 4/3 camera to the mix jus to have versatility in a smaller package. |
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Still Alive
(06-01-2012, 03:05 PM)
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#75
We've been hearing this for a while. I doubt it. Instead, I think the cameras in the iPhone, iPod, and iPad will continue to get better. They are already great, and this year it'll only get better.
Still, a standalone camera could happen. Not everyone has an iDevice, and not everyone who has an iDevice wants to use it as a camera. I doubt it, but just maybe... Next up: iCar. |
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(06-01-2012, 03:19 PM)
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#77
i could only see them doing it if they had unique tech like the lytro camera. otherwise, what's the point? their phones are good point&shoots, minus the lack of zoom. the lack of zoom doesn't seem to bother all of the people (including myself) who have simply stopped using point&shoot cameras because of the convenience of it being in a phone.
the only camera i'd be interested in buying is a more professional one. |
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(06-01-2012, 03:29 PM)
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#78
I can't imagine what Apple could do better than any of the current point and shoots.
Isn't the reason the iPhone was so successful that it combined the functions of multiple devices into one, with a great interface? I don't think there is any room for more functions in a point and shoot. Maybe they could combine the features of something like Lightroom or Apature into the camera. Idk. Well, good luck Cook. |
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(06-01-2012, 04:41 PM)
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#81
I think most people are missing the point.
From the article, it seems like Apple's intention is not one to enter the DSLR inter-changeable lens segment. And they wouldnt be entering a dying segment - the P&S if that was the case. I agree the age of simple P&S is over. We now have a hybrid segment that consists of ultra zooms, prosumer cams, micro 4/3, APS-C based mirror-less. Pairing up a large sensor with a fixed lens sounds daft but Apple could pull it off. Add their UI to it and marketing terms like Retina and such to dumb down things but make it more user friendly and price it $499 and it could work. Plus adding the photos to iCloud/Social Media/Personal Macs via built-in WiFi, it just could tick a whole lot of different check marks in the right boxes. If you had told me that Apple could revolutionize the smartphone back on Jan 8, 2007 .. I might have had a hearty laugh.
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point your penis at me,
and have a good day (06-01-2012, 05:10 PM)
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#82
Originally Posted by artist:
But, how can we make a call one way or the other? It will happen or it won't. There aren't very many details here to argue about. |
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(06-01-2012, 05:21 PM)
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#83
Just bought a Nikon D3100 DSLR.
Also have an Olympus Stylus 1000 (10mp) and an older Pentax SLR. I don't believe Apple can produce a single camera that will satisfy the need to continue to move up. They might make one that is accepted by the masses, which is their goal, but there will always be a market for those who want better. |
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Banned
(06-01-2012, 05:22 PM)
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#84
Originally Posted by jiji:
"This camera is all about the experience, the user experience. I just cant believe how amazing it is. Look, it can automatically focus on multiple peoples faces in one shot, its AMAZING!" |
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Member
(06-01-2012, 05:31 PM)
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#87
Originally Posted by SUPREME1:
Unless you're saying that in the photography world people always want better, which is probably true for those of us who take our photography seriously. :) |
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Loves his teams like he loves his trading cards
(06-01-2012, 05:37 PM)
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#89
Originally Posted by neojubei:
apple is just running out of shit to remodel every 5 months. What a shitty company when you look at. |
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Member
(06-01-2012, 05:48 PM)
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#91
Originally Posted by Kung Fu Jedi:
Well, I was referring to this line here:
Quote:
So they're going to go with something that will satisfiy the needs of most people. Basically they'll make it nice enough in most areas (lens/sensor/lcd/UI) to satisfy the masses and they'll cash in. Again, this will be okay for the most part as most people use point and shoot cameras as it is now. They'll likely release an Apple version of a point and shoot. Something that most people will be okay with and very accessible to the everyday joe. What I meant with the "better" line is that there are people like you, who take their photography6 seriously and will demand better. Point and shoots will never replace real equipment. There's a reason why there are so many lens options in any given line of cameras. Apple will not be able to duplicate all of those with an all-in-one camera. So yeah, I expect it to be a new take on the point and shoot. |
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(06-01-2012, 05:50 PM)
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#93
Seems like a weird move. The iPhone helped reduce the need for a separate point and shoot camera. I don't know anyone who brings their cameras out with them to social events anymore - they just bring their smartphone. I'd be curious as to how a standalone P&S would do in this current market.
Originally Posted by Damon Bennet:
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testicles on a cold fall morning
(06-01-2012, 05:55 PM)
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#95
the biggest innovation Apple could make would be on the software front. immediate RAW syncing through iCloud using a body that had integrated LTE? historical access to previous shoots stored on iCloud is another. while memory card errors are thankfully rare, having a verified backup of every single picture ready for you as soon as you return to your machine would be useful. though for that to work they'd have to work on their own pro lenses to sway buyers, which doesn't make sense for them.
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there is joy in sucking dick
(06-01-2012, 06:25 PM)
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#100
Originally Posted by artist:
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