[Teknoman]

Jesus Christ GAF stop making/bumping threads relevant to my interests, I don't have the time to play this, Shin Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest V simultaneously. It still looks so goddamn good, uuuuuuugh.

I still havent finished Resonance of Fate or Dragon Quest VII

[randomkid]

I still havent finished Resonance of Fate or Dragon Quest VII

stop it stop it stop it

who's the artist there anyways? Looks really nice.

I seriously can't get over the ANIMATING AMANO-ESQUE BATTLE SPRITES sweet jesus.

Edit: Okay did some googling and I think it was apparently Keita Amemiya.

http://dtrcb.blogspot.com/2011/09/fa...a-amemiya.html

Seriously, what was in the water in Japan in the 90's. Okay Rudra, I'm gunning for you.

[Kard8p3]

I've started playing this and I'm loving it. I've only played for a couple of hours but it's great so far. Can anyone tell me why Sion can't equip a shield?

[Aeana]

Yay, more people checking this game out is always good. Love it so much.

[kaioshade]

I keep playing and getting to the same point. i really need to buckle down and play it. i always enjoy immensely what i play.

[Akselziys]

Great diamond in the rough :)

More people should definitely play it!

[kevm3]

I miss the gritty, mysterious art style in the older Square games.

[Llyranor]

I like the music.

Battle For The Fields http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL368wM5nsQ

Holiday in the Village http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Zma8fnltg

[Nils]

I got pretty far into it a few years back but at some point I quit. Was playing the wizard guy's route primarily. Think I got up until a point the world opened up so much that I had no clue whatsoever where to go. Last thing I did was beat some boss that was very overpowered and I probably shouldn't have been facing at that point in the game. There was some sort of celestial background and it was a woman I believe. Shame I don't have that save anymore. I remember I losing it at some point and doing all sorts of voodoo to get it back, which I did, but I quit shortly after.

[ZombiePlatypus]

I don't really know much regarding how to go about putting together a good emulation set-up, and I always kinda ignored it cause it seemed a bit daunting. This game looks so charming and adorable though. I may have to finally get to it to try this title out.

Well, this and Suikoden II. Konami is apparently incompetent as all hell and can't put up a simple rom for download via PSN/Nintendo's Virtual Shop. Also Earthbound.

[Zakkath]

I miss the gritty, mysterious art style in the older Square games.

I miss the old Square :/

[To Far Away Times]

Never heard of this game before, but the intro sold me on it.

[Jucksalbe]

This game seems to be pretty rare. At least I didn't find it anywhere. Looks very interesting, though.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Looks interesting. Might try someday, if I can get into playing JRPGs again.

The visuals remind me of Game Freak's Bushi Seiryuuden, another JRPG with a funky-ass battle system. It's yet to be translated, though there's a guide out there for those willing to play it.

[MechaX]

Played about an hour of this tonight.

How in the fuck did this game not get released in the West?

[Teknoman]

Game has some of the best battle music...shame that this nor the Romancing SaGa games hit outside japan on SNES.

[Dark Schala]

Game has some of the best battle music.

This game showcases a ton of Sasai's great work. It's a shame he didn't stay in game composition after Bushido Blade 2.

Strange Encounters, Final Conflict, and The Flame and the Arrow are three of my favourites.

[Teknoman]

Yeah I hear strange encounters every time I read the name of the game, or hear someone mention it.

[Kard8p3]

Played about an hour of this tonight. How in the fuck did this game not get released in the West?

Yeah it really is great. I think the game coming out so late in the consoles life cycle, combined with the magic system is probably what kept it from coming over here. The whole time I'm playing I keep wishing I could've played this years ago.

[fates]

Except SD3 is a crappy action RPG, and Treasure of the Rudras is not.

:o

:o

:o!

This wounds me so. SD3 is probably my favorite "never released outside Japan" game.

Started to play Rudras but never progressed in it beyond the first tower area (I think I'm remembering the right game). Couldn't get into Treasure Hunter G either... perhaps another shot at both wouldn't be a bad idea.

Bahamut Lagoon on the other hand, loved it.

[Kard8p3]

Ok a question to anyone who has played this. Why can't I equip Sion with a shield? I've bought two different shields for him but can't equip them. I'm having a similar problem with Ramyleth. I bought a fire bow for him but it wont let me equip it. When I bought these items the game said they could be equipped to said characters so I don't understand why I can't.

[Aeana]

Ok a question to anyone who has played this. Why can't I equip Sion with a shield? I've bought two different shields for him but can't equip them. I'm having a similar problem with Ramyleth. I bought a fire bow for him but it wont let me equip it. When I bought these items the game said they could be equipped to said characters so I don't understand why I can't.

Some weapons are two-handed. Try switching to a different one.

[Diomedeskun]

This game seems to be pretty rare. At least I didn't find it anywhere. Looks very interesting, though.

I've seen a couple of copies here and there, but only in box and going for 3000 yen and more. While it may be worth that, the same place I saw my first copies had a stack of Star Oceans in box for 4000 yen, and I have seen it in box for a fraction of that and got a loos one for a couple hundred yen.

That said, I saw it again at book off for 3000, along with one of the other games I'm missing, Live-A-Live, for the same price at book-off, and their retro games usually tend to be very reasonably priced. I got Mother 3 boxed and Fire Emblem Rekka no Ken for much less than anywhere else I've seen them at that same book-off.

I remember how gorgeous the game was, so I will eventually get it, but I've become a bit of a cheapskate collector, (which has paid off with some lucky finds) so I find it hard to spend that much on a Super Famicom game even though I would do it in a heartbeat for a 3DS port.

On the other hand, Bahamut Lagoon is so cheap I accidentally bought two copies.

[Kard8p3]

Some weapons are two-handed. Try switching to a different one.

Ah ok that makes sense. Don't know why I didn't think of that but thanks for the help.

[Teknoman]

I've seen a couple of copies here and there, but only in box and going for 3000 yen and more. While it may be worth that, the same place I saw my first copies had a stack of Star Oceans in box for 4000 yen, and I have seen it in box for a fraction of that and got a loos one for a couple hundred yen. That said, I saw it again at book off for 3000, along with one of the other games I'm missing, Live-A-Live, for the same price at book-off, and their retro games usually tend to be very reasonably priced. I got Mother 3 boxed and Fire Emblem Rekka no Ken for much less than anywhere else I've seen them at that same book-off. I remember how gorgeous the game was, so I will eventually get it, but I've become a bit of a cheapskate collector, (which has paid off with some lucky finds) so I find it hard to spend that much on a Super Famicom game even though I would do it in a heartbeat for a 3DS port. On the other hand, Bahamut Lagoon is so cheap I accidentally bought two copies.

I just wish that in the states, people would stop outbidding me on ebay at the last minute lol.

[Diomedeskun]

I just wish that in the states, people would stop outbidding me on ebay at the last minute lol.

It does seem to be fairly rare on the whole. I didn't see any in the big retro shops in den-den town in Osaka, the only ones I've seen have been near home in a rural prefecture. That said, with exchange rate, shipping, and a fair bit of profit for the seller, I don't think you should pay anyone more than $75 or so max, and that's rather generous.

Now if you are looking for anything else from Square on Super Famicom, you shouldn't have to pay much at all if you get them loose. I'm still missing Live-A-Live, which seems to go for relatively high prices, but I don't think I've payed more than 200 yen for any of the other Super Famicom Square games. All three Final Fantasy games seem to go for anywhere from 100 yen to 2000, sometimes even in the same story, for loose copies, but I saw a Final Fantasy VI for 400 yen in box. That said, I don't know what kind of availability they have on ebay or import stores.

[Ashodin]

I think i'm gonna have to make a live a live thread.

[GrumpyAlien]

I never really got into this one although it looks like the kind of game I would enjoy. Just now I youtubed some of the final bosses..and damn some of them look pretty wild. I really like all the animated parts they have. Doubt I will ever play the game though (I don't like the combat much), but some of the later enemies look amazing.

[Diomedeskun]

I think i'm gonna have to make a live a live thread.

Don't do it. A thread might be the push that actually makes me buy the copy, and I need to save money this month.

Actually, I am pretty interested in what people think of the game. It seemed primitive, but fascinating when I tried it out years ago. SaGa Frontier reminded me a lot of what little I saw of Live-A-Live.

[Kard8p3]

I think i'm gonna have to make a live a live thread.

You really should.

Edit:Wait what's live a live?

[Teknoman]

You really should. Edit:Wait what's live a live?

Another Square game that never hit outside japan. You play in different...eras(?) but i'm not sure if they all connect at some point. There is a caveman, wild west, street fighter-ish, future, and medieval japan scenario.

Actually, just watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o8TyONbFX8

[bkfount]

So what's worse, playing this on an emulator or buying a translated version reproduction cart off the internet?

[Teknoman]

So what's worse, playing this on an emulator or buying a translated version reproduction cart off the internet?

As far as accuracy, i'd guess emulator.

[charlequin]

So what's worse, playing this on an emulator or buying a translated version reproduction cart off the internet?

Buying a repro cart means you're paying some random person for a pirated game, made without the permission of either the original creator or the translators, to receive a product of questionable quality that's probably made in part by destroying other SNES carts. Don't do that.

If you want to be on the up and up here, buy the original cart (looks like you can snag one in the neighborhood of $30 if you don't care about the packaging) and then play the translated version in an emulator.

[djtiesto]

You know what, when playing through Mass Effect 3 I was thinking about this game. Very similar concept in different "cycles" who each die off eventually. Rudra's handled the explanation for this a bit better than the mess that was ME3 though.

I did manage to beat Rudra's, and it had a lot I liked about it... including a great soundtrack, amazing animation, cool setting/lore, and few nifty and creative scenarios that you only really see in classic RPG games... but also suffered from a high encounter rate, a bit of backtracking, a lack of differing environmental graphics (shame since what's there looks really nice!) and a lot of difficulty spikes. Of course on the previous page I elaborate more...

Hmm SNES ROMs, I still need to play Bahamut Lagoon, Emerald Dragon and Alcahest one day... pretty soon I'll be starting on Radical Dreamers and Gunman's Proof.

[Kard8p3]

So how long does each character's story last? I just got the Gram sword with Sion and I'm lvl 24. I feel like I might be rushing through a bit.

[Kard8p3]

Sorry for the double post but just wanted to say I beat Sions story today and it was great. I'll be moving on the the next one later tonight.

[Agent Unknown]

Game looks awesome, maybe will have to put on my to-do list after I'm done with Earthbound. Why can't Square make interesting art and settings like this anymore?

[Stumpokapow]

Buying a repro cart means you're paying some random person for a pirated game, made without the permission of either the original creator or the translators, to receive a product of questionable quality that's probably made in part by destroying other SNES carts. Don't do that.

Cry me a river.

None of the negative claims about buying a repro are problematic except the fact that it's piracy. This is solved by buying an SFC copy before buying the repro.

There's no reality where format-shifting is okay (you're advocating playing a ROM), indirect format-shifting is okay (you're not mentioning buying a Retrode or whatever to dump it and let's be real, even assuming we're talking about the 0.1% of people who would even consider buying an SFC cart to be ethically clear playing the ROM, I'd say less than 0.1% of those people are actually able to dump their own cart), remix culture/unlicensed modification is okay (you're okay with translations), but a repro isn't.

The person being paid for the repro isn't being paid for the game or the translation, they're being paid to put it into a functional cart. As evidence for this, consider that the market for a reproduction is infinitesimally tiny compared to the number of people who pirate the game and play the translation. How many tens or hundreds of thousands downloaded the FF5, SD3, or Mother 3? How many repro carts have ever been sold? I would guess the best selling repro carts of all time would be lucky to reach the triple digits. At best you have "someone should probably paypal those fan translators". Yeah, they probably should. Make a Kickstarter for J2E's FF5 translation or Neill Corbett's SD3 translation... or that half-baked Pokemon Gold translation that one guy did before the game came out over here. I'll donate to 'em all.

"Destroying other SNES carts" is an especially foolish argument. Who gives a shit? Nuking one of the ten gazillion remaining copies of NBA Bulls versus Blazers or Metal Combat (I think there are literally more copies of this extant than there are super scopes to play it with) is not a problem. Objecting to the process on the grounds that it involves destroying a SNES cart is like objecting to someone making art out of hollowing out some turd book they got for 0.05 out of a used book store. These games have no more right to be preserved than the reproductions themselves.

On the scale of moral ills, someone buying a repro of a game they own in Japanese so they can play it in English is slightly less problematic than the mosquito they swat on the way into their house in order to play it or the gas they burned driving to the courier place to pick up their package.

[Kard8p3]

So yeah I beat this game about a week ago. I loved it from beginning to end. I loved the ways the story's connected and I loved just exploring the world. There was one thing about the ending I didn't like though. It totally teased me with the possibility of either a new scenario or a sequel and neither happened. I wanted to go on and fight this super war and see what was going on with all of that. Really though the game was amazing and I just wish there was more.

[Metal Gear?!]

Square really missed out on an opportunity by not releasing this as a brand new game on DS with an onscreen keyboard on the lower screen.

[Kard8p3]

Square really missed out on an opportunity by not releasing this as a brand new game on DS with an onscreen keyboard on the lower screen.

Such a thing would've been amazing. I would've loved a DS remake of this game. I'd love a 3DS remake of this game.

[brandonh83]

I have a wireless 360 controller, how can I use that to play roms?

[Archon473]

I've been in a real retro mood lately. I'm not exactly sure what brought that on, but I've just had this strong desire to delve back into 16-bit glory.

You mean you've been in a vintage mood.

[Melhisedek]

Just started playing this, and so far it is pretty hard (mantras are genius) and the music is amazing. Really a breath of fresh air. I think I might look into some older games if this one proves to be so good.

Anyway I started with Sion and after a couple of minutes I got an eyepatch :P
Any tips or advice for a new player?

[Aeana]

Just started playing this, and so far it is pretty hard (mantras are genius) and the music is amazing. Really a breath of fresh air. I think I might look into some older games if this one proves to be so good. Anyway I started with Sion and after a couple of minutes I got an eyepatch :P Any tips or advice for a new player?

Form lefna for a cheap multitarget heal. Powerup for an attack boost, and espiri for spirit increase. Those are all great ones to have at the start of the game.

[Like the hat?]

So the translation is good?
Any weird errors or anything?

[Stealth20k]

I own the game physically, I picked it up about 10 years back.

Its a very solid game. I liked it.

I did not enjoy it more than bahamuts lagoon, live a life, or densetsu 3

[Dunan]

So the translation is good? Any weird errors or anything?

The translation is excellent (assuming you mean Gideon Zhi's version) and is probably one of the best fan-translations in existence. The characterization and humor are spot-on; it has the feel of a professional effort from start to finish.

I played both the original (SFC cart back in 1999; paid just Y2500 for it back when that was only $20), the first translation effort (which has monospaced fonts and isn't anywhere near as amazing as Gideon's), and then the latest translation. Unless they've updated it since about 2005, in which case it's even better than it was then. This is one game where if you're a J-E bilingual, you'll probably prefer the English version over the original. Don't let this game pass you by; it's well worth whatever you'd spend on a cart and whatever hours you'd spend playing it.

The soundtrack goes for obscene amounts in the used market, so find a SFC music extractor and play the game's music on your computer that way. The ending theme, which contains all four of the regular character themes (which in turn have faster-paced versions for the battles and slower, more moody versions for the field).

Can't say enough good things about this game and its fan translation. Play it!

[Stealth20k]

Gideon Zhi's snes translations are legendary