Danielsan
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#151

As long as the execution is done well then I'm all for it. Shadow of the Colossus is a prime example of a game that does it well.
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#152

Originally Posted by Cloudy: View Post
I don't mind it in music. These are 2 of my favorite videogame songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niruwh4UwS8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs

I just don't like it taking over the whole game :p
If i remember correctly Beyond the bounds is a modified Finnish language, sped up.
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#153

Panzer Dragoon did it well. I've never had issues with it in any game now that I think about it.
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#154

It it's not a blatant and insulting parody of another language, then sure. Although it does really matter how it's used or else it'll break immersion.

For example, Tales of Eternia had a made up language (it was an English cipher in a Japanese game, pretty clever) separating it's two worlds.

Tales of Xillia used the very same language to separate this one tribe. But the other tribes and the rival country all spoke the same 'video game common' so it just looked silly.
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#155

I think Americans missed out on this but the Lylat language in Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64) was AWESOME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nHR4RsMc0g
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Originally Posted by Cloudy: View Post
I don't mind it in music. These are 2 of my favorite videogame songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niruwh4UwS8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs

I just don't like it taking over the whole game :p
Transcending Love is actually reminiscent of Ainu from what I've read.
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#157

Originally Posted by awaiken: View Post
Yeah I love it. It's immersive. Pretentious is just another word for "this intimidates me intellectually"
Not really, but it can be used as such. When properly used it basically means the exact opposite, though the attempt to intimidate is still there.
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#158

I enjoy it when they talk in gibberish I ain't gonna lie.
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#159

what about games with cutscenes
Speevy
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#161

I suppose making up your own language and dubbing it in, then scolding your friends for not knowing the new language might be more lame and pretentious.
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#162

Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
Transcending Love is actually reminiscent of Ainu from what I've read.
You know a language is truly dead when people think it isn't real.
RSLAEV
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#163

Can't..fucking..stand that shit!

SOTC get's a pass because there's very little conversation, but dialogue heavy games that lean on this technique get chucked with the quickness.
awaiken
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Originally Posted by Roto13: View Post
Yes. Yes, it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNZmzLzvJo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1CjxQXXA7o

Damn that pretentious fake language! So difficult to sing along to.
Nier is such a gorgeous piece of art
Speevy
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#165

Mucha shaka paka, ah dah dee dunga dunga dunga.

KOTOR rules.
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#166

I enjoy it, as long as it's done right and used for a good purpose. Nier's pretentious OST was amazing.
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#167

People actually have problems with this?

Come on, guys...
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#168

I like it. Definitely brings me into the world more. Were people complaining about this in Star Fox Adventures?
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#169

No, I love it. I love it even more when they put effort into making it into a real working language and not gibberish.
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#170

Originally Posted by Rezbit: View Post
I think Americans missed out on this but the Lylat language in Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64) was AWESOME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nHR4RsMc0g
I loved the gibberish language in the original Star Fox.

Fox: "Bedabeda bedabeda"

Falco: "Bwa bwa bwing dabba!"

Slippy: "Dep dedep dep dedep"

Peppy: "Bip bwip bip, bip bwip bwip!"

Same goes for the gibberish language in the Panzer Dragoon games.
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jett
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#171

I don't mind it at all, I actually enjoy it most times.

btw

Slamtastic
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#172

OP was wrong to use the word pretentious, but I do agree.

I'd put Fake Language, Real Foreign Language, and No Voice Acting all in my dislike category.

If it in any way fits the game setting/story/world that anyone will communicate verbally with anyone else, do it in fully voiced dialogue in the language I speak and understand. Also extends out of games.

But, Fake Language can add to the atmosphere/be a plot point, and No Voice means you don't have people who can understand it while I can't, so I'd put them both slightly above Undubbed Foreign Language.
Gsak
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#173

When it's a language, I have no problem at all.

Gibberish however annoys me. It's a remnant from the 90s (in most cases). Back then there was a reason for its existence. Today there's none.
alazz
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#174

Originally Posted by slick7rick: View Post
when it's just sound effects that cater to younger crowds (hi nintendo!) it just puts me off. instant mute.
Animal Crossing? I haven't played in a long time, but I thought the characters spoke the words phonetically using a voice synthesizer and sped up, so it sounds like gibberish, but it's actually just whatever language in which you're playing.
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Originally Posted by alazz: View Post
Animal Crossing? I haven't played in a long time, but I thought the characters spoke the words phonetically using a voice synthesizer and sped up, so it sounds like gibberish, but it's actually just whatever language in which you're playing.
it did in the gamecube version, not sure about the others
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#176

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Is there anything more lame and pretentious than made-up languages in games?
Yes, most things. I'm very surprised that this bothers you, and that you consider it "pretentious." Some of my favorite "voicework" is from Little King's Story, where they just recorded various real languages, but scrambled up the recordings to make them sound like gibberish, but a gibberish with a distinct flavor for each character. I thought it was very clever, and sounded great.

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Same goes for the gibberish language in the Panzer Dragoon games.
Interestingly, that's not actually gibberish, but an invented language based on various real languages. I agree, it sounds very nice.
SouthernDragon
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#177

How is it pretentious?
toddhunter
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#178

Hu ed ec hud bnadahdeuic. Ed ec ymm ypuid ev ed ec tuha famm un hud. Cusa kysac ryja tuha ed naym famm, eh byndelimyn vehym vyhdyco Q.
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#179

lots of savings this way - you don't have to localize, you don't need expensive actors and so on.
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#180

I really liked the ones in Panzer Dragoon and in particular, Klonoa.
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#181

LocoRoco's gibberish language is the absolute best. It gives the entire game a charm that could have never been achieved with a regular language.

Example
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#182

i don't always mind it (dig it in locoroco and shadow of the colossus), but i hate it when it's supposed to be reminiscent of other languages. prime example being the cheesy ching-chong stuff in jade empire, complete with fake chinese characters : /
Ra1den
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#183

What the fuck OP? It's an awesome thing to have. Loved the Al-Bhed language in FFX.
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#184

I like the ones I've seen so far, Panzer Dragoon is a good one imo.
It makes localizing the game cheaper and easy too :p
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#185

obekay isay aya apistray
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Panzer Dragoon Saga #186



so good.
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#187

Panzer Dragoon added a whole layer of awesome with it's in game Language (if it's not then I look like a dolt)
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#188

I like them when they're well done, especially when they're a little bizarre like in Klonoa 2.

I was so pissed when Star Fox 64 went with regular VA's.

The pretentious usage doesn't really fit for me.
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Originally Posted by Hoo-doo: View Post
LocoRoco's gibberish language is the absolute best. It gives the entire game a charm that could have never been achieved with a regular language.

Example
Came in here to say this. Loco Roco's was absolutely charming. I just find most made up languages to be endearing.
krioto
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#190

So few mentions of the Dova language from Skyrim??? Dragon language is best language
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#191

Fez's language...sigh.
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Originally Posted by Catshade: View Post
I find that late FF's made-up terms (Fal'Cie, Le'Cie, Dissidia Duodenum, Fabula Nova Chrystalis etc.) are far more lame and pretentious.
While I agree that I wish Square would get their act together on naming their games (tee-hee, duodenum, like the thing inside the body) I actually though the FNC's Pulse letters were kind of cool.

And put me down as another person in favor of Hylian.
LiK
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#193

i don't mind unless i can tell they're repeating the same bit of fake dialogue over and over again. Asura's Wrath was pretty bad about it.
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Originally Posted by Slamtastic: View Post
OP was wrong to use the word pretentious, but I do agree.

I'd put Fake Language, Real Foreign Language, and No Voice Acting all in my dislike category.

If it in any way fits the game setting/story/world that anyone will communicate verbally with anyone else, do it in fully voiced dialogue in the language I speak and understand. Also extends out of games.

But, Fake Language can add to the atmosphere/be a plot point, and No Voice means you don't have people who can understand it while I can't, so I'd put them both slightly above Undubbed Foreign Language.
I'm curious, do you watch dubbed films?
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#195

Originally Posted by Augemitbutter: View Post


so good.
Does that guy have a penis hanging from his eye?
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#196

Originally Posted by Speevy: View Post
Does that guy have a penis hanging from his eye?
cannot unsee
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Originally Posted by Speevy: View Post
Does that guy have a penis hanging from his eye?
Yes.
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#198

Really? You find that pretentious? Really?
Slamtastic
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Originally Posted by Snapshot King: View Post
I'm curious, do you watch dubbed films?
I can't think of a foreign live action film I've ever had a huge desire to watch. I watched Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (subtitled) in class once, but I didn't choose the movie or how to watch it.

If there was one, I could see the lip sync, if it was bad, putting me off and changing my mind, but such a case hasn't happened.

Animated, yes, of course, several.
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#200

Pretentious? Not really. And it lends some games a certain charm. Animal Crossing's "voices" are very endearing.